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Post by foster on Feb 22, 2024 15:24:55 GMT
This is an absolutely brilliant speech by Nada, EVERY single word she's uses is incredibly important and needs to be listened to, by as many people as possible ... All a bit blah blah to me. It's common knowledge and the main players won't give a fuck looking at who's said it. This message needs to come from a big nation, otherwise it will be quickly forgotten. I completely agree with what she says, but it won't make a bit of difference.
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Feb 23, 2024 16:14:00 GMT
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 23, 2024 16:14:00 GMT
How much longer will Israel be fighting in Gaza before they declare Hamas destroyed?
My mate out here who follows it told me in October it'd be 1-2 months but we're coming up on 4 months now.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 23, 2024 16:27:21 GMT
How much longer will Israel be fighting in Gaza before they declare Hamas destroyed? My mate out here who follows it told me in October it'd be 1-2 months but we're coming up on 4 months now. They need to level it enough to ensure that no one will come back to it. That does take some time without a nuke or two. Then they can start looking for oil.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 24, 2024 23:15:45 GMT
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Feb 25, 2024 23:04:00 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 25, 2024 23:04:00 GMT
Clearly another antisemitic gesture ...
EDIT: I think it's absolutely disgusting that Musk is taking this sort of stuff down off of Twitter, it should be mainstream news FFS! But they're trying to hide it from the world.
Here's another link, no doubt, this too will have been censored, by the time you get to see it! 🙄
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Feb 25, 2024 23:09:08 GMT
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Post by gawa on Feb 25, 2024 23:09:08 GMT
Clearly another antisemitic gesture ... Rachel reeves wants the police to tackle anyone with anti zionest views lol.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 25, 2024 23:20:02 GMT
Clearly another antisemitic gesture ... Rachel reeves wants the police to tackle anyone with anti zionest views lol. I've been arguing for the past couple of years on here, that we must allow Starmer to do whatever it takes to get into power and turn a blind eye to any doubts about him that we might have. I'm a Labour party member and voted for him to be leader FFS! But their position on Palestine has made me realise just how wrong I was. If they can get such a fundamental issue so wrong, then how I can trust them on anything else? I won't be renewing in April.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 26, 2024 1:24:26 GMT
Apparently this is a resurfaced Reeves speech at a Friend's of Israel gathering a few days after 7th October also attended by Sir Keir
I'll wait to see an explanation if it has been doctored in any way by AI
But Fuck Me if it's accurate where does it leave the 40% og British Jews who claim to be Anti-Zionist
If Labour gain Power will they instruct the Police to hunt them down
This Country may have gone Fucking Bonkers.... I await authenticity of video
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 26, 2024 8:31:32 GMT
Apparently this is a resurfaced Reeves speech at a Friend's of Israel gathering a few days after 7th October also attended by Sir Keir I'll wait to see an explanation if it has been doctored in any way by AI But Fuck Me if it's accurate where does it leave the 40% og British Jews who claim to be Anti-Zionist If Labour gain Power will they instruct the Police to hunt them down This Country may have gone Fucking Bonkers.... I await authenticity of video The phrase “Israel lobby” is a fairly innocuous one in America, in the UK it sees you labelled as an antisemite. But the time, effort and money from organisations affiliated to the state of Israel involved in our politics and our individual politicians is there for all to see……
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 26, 2024 9:11:03 GMT
I can not support anyone who supports apartheid.
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Post by gawa on Feb 26, 2024 9:57:51 GMT
Brave soldier. Rest in peace.
Video not for faint hearted
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 26, 2024 10:51:57 GMT
Brave soldier. Rest in peace. Video not for faint hearted Sounds more mentally unstable than brave. It’s a real shame that he didn’t get the help he needed before he burned himself alive for nothing.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 26, 2024 10:56:20 GMT
Apparently this is a resurfaced Reeves speech at a Friend's of Israel gathering a few days after 7th October also attended by Sir Keir I'll wait to see an explanation if it has been doctored in any way by AI But Fuck Me if it's accurate where does it leave the 40% og British Jews who claim to be Anti-Zionist If Labour gain Power will they instruct the Police to hunt them down This Country may have gone Fucking Bonkers.... I await authenticity of video The phrase “Israel lobby” is a fairly innocuous one in America, in the UK it sees you labelled as an antisemite. But the time, effort and money from organisations affiliated to the state of Israel involved in our politics and our individual politicians is there for all to see…… I was hoping I would wake up and what I heard Rachel Reeves say was just a Dystopian Nightmare I had, no such luck Maybe Reeves needs to brush up on the Law Agitated by the "Israel Lobby" Prof David Miller was summarily dismissed from his post for holding Anti-Zionist views In a Landmark decision he has won his case for unfair dismissal at an Employment Tribunal which upheld that "anti-Zionist beliefs qualified as a philosophical belief and as a protected characteristic pursuant to section 10 Equality Act 2010” .... there may be a glimmer of hope for this Country www.theguardian.com/education/2024/feb/05/uk-professor-suffered-discrimination-due-to-anti-zionist-beliefs-tribunal-rules#jesuisdavidmiller
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Feb 26, 2024 11:13:26 GMT
Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 26, 2024 11:13:26 GMT
Brave soldier. Rest in peace. Video not for faint hearted Sounds more mentally unstable than brave. It’s a real shame that he didn’t get the help he needed before he burned himself alive for nothing. We may never know I guess, but his social media posts leading up to the incident don't suggest that he was unstable. His last one was as follows: "What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?’ The answer is, you’re doing it. Right now. I will no longer be complicit in genocide FREE PALESTINE”
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 26, 2024 11:17:05 GMT
Sounds more mentally unstable than brave. It’s a real shame that he didn’t get the help he needed before he burned himself alive for nothing. We may never know I guess, but his social media posts leading up to the incident don't suggest that he was unstable. His last one was as follows: "What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?’ The answer is, you’re doing it. Right now. I will no longer be complicit in genocide FREE PALESTINE” Then, he set himself on fire, which doesn’t seem to be the most mentally stable thing to do. If he believed that it would change US policy, he was at the very least, delusional.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 26, 2024 11:53:21 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 26, 2024 12:10:39 GMT
We may never know I guess, but his social media posts leading up to the incident don't suggest that he was unstable. His last one was as follows: "What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?’ The answer is, you’re doing it. Right now. I will no longer be complicit in genocide FREE PALESTINE” Then, he set himself on fire, which doesn’t seem to be the most mentally stable thing to do. If he believed that it would change US policy, he was at the very least, delusional. I'm not saying he expected a change in US policy. But people have made these types of statement throughout history, I'm not sure they were all mentally unstable........
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Feb 26, 2024 15:50:22 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 26, 2024 15:50:22 GMT
Brave soldier. Rest in peace. Video not for faint hearted How desperately sad, I can only imagine what his parents must be going through.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 26, 2024 15:55:42 GMT
Then, he set himself on fire, which doesn’t seem to be the most mentally stable thing to do. If he believed that it would change US policy, he was at the very least, delusional. I'm not saying he expected a change in US policy. But people have made these types of statement throughout history, I'm not sure they were all mentally unstable........ I disagree. I don’t see how any sane person comes to the conclusion that setting themselves on fire is the answer to anything. It’s not even top of the page news on most US websites I’ve checked this morning. If he didn’t do it as a protest to change US policy, then it’s even more confusing. If he did, then it’s just a massive waste of a life. I hope he didn’t have children. Feel sorry for his family.
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Feb 26, 2024 16:13:47 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 26, 2024 16:13:47 GMT
I'm not saying he expected a change in US policy. But people have made these types of statement throughout history, I'm not sure they were all mentally unstable........ I disagree. I don’t see how any sane person comes to the conclusion that setting themselves on fire is the answer to anything. It’s not even top of the page news on most US websites I’ve checked this morning. If he didn’t do it as a protest to change US policy, then it’s even more confusing. If he did, then it’s just a massive waste of a life. I hope he didn’t have children. Feel sorry for his family. Doesn't it all depend upon a definition of insanity?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 26, 2024 16:32:38 GMT
I'm not saying he expected a change in US policy. But people have made these types of statement throughout history, I'm not sure they were all mentally unstable........ I disagree. I don’t see how any sane person comes to the conclusion that setting themselves on fire is the answer to anything. It’s not even top of the page news on most US websites I’ve checked this morning. If he didn’t do it as a protest to change US policy, then it’s even more confusing. If he did, then it’s just a massive waste of a life. I hope he didn’t have children. Feel sorry for his family. Was Emily Davison sane when she threw herself in the path of the Kings Horse at Epsom? Was Bobby Sands sane when he starved himself to a slow painful death protesting against his incarceration? Of course its a waste of life and thoughts are with his loved ones, some people just have a different take on how to highlight what they perceive to be wrongdoings I guess..............
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Post by noustie on Feb 26, 2024 16:35:31 GMT
I disagree. I don’t see how any sane person comes to the conclusion that setting themselves on fire is the answer to anything. It’s not even top of the page news on most US websites I’ve checked this morning. If he didn’t do it as a protest to change US policy, then it’s even more confusing. If he did, then it’s just a massive waste of a life. I hope he didn’t have children. Feel sorry for his family. Was Emily Davison sane when she threw herself in the path of the Kings Horse at Epsom? Was Bobby Sands sane when he starved himself to a slow painful death protesting against his incarceration? Of course its a waste of life and thoughts are with his loved ones, some people just have a different take on how to highlight what they perceive to be wrongdoings I guess.............. Think nearly 200 monks have done it in protest at China in Tibet over the last 10-15 years because their religion forbids harm to others so end up doing it to themselves instead.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 26, 2024 16:40:02 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 26, 2024 16:47:54 GMT
Was Emily Davison sane when she threw herself in the path of the Kings Horse at Epsom? Was Bobby Sands sane when he starved himself to a slow painful death protesting against his incarceration? Of course its a waste of life and thoughts are with his loved ones, some people just have a different take on how to highlight what they perceive to be wrongdoings I guess.............. Think nearly 200 monks have done it in protest at China in Tibet over the last 10-15 years because their religion forbids harm to others so end up doing it to themselves instead. Sounds radicalized to me. The nicest thing I can say about this is at least they didn’t kill someone else first before killing themselves. That’s all I have though, so I’ll leave it there.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 26, 2024 17:29:36 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 26, 2024 22:23:34 GMT
This is absolutely disgraceful, how on earth can Hoyle believe that that answer from him is remotely acceptable? He OFFERED the SNP the SO24 as a part of his apology to them, he can't now withdraw it based on the grounds he's claiming there. It means one of only two things ... he is either corrupt or he is incompetent, there isn't any other alternative. Whichever one it is, he clearly needs to resign his position immediately.
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Post by gawa on Feb 26, 2024 22:27:01 GMT
This is absolutely disgraceful, how on earth can Hoyle believe that that answer from him is remotely acceptable? He OFFERED the SNP the SO24 as a part of his apology to them, he can't now withdraw it based on the grounds he's claiming there. It means one of only two things ... he is either corrupt or he is incompetent, there isn't any other alternative. Whichever one it is, he clearly needs to resign his position immediately. Perfect opportunity for Conservatives to attack but oddly they're supporting him. One would think it's as though there's some pressure and intimidation and it's not from islamists.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 26, 2024 22:43:25 GMT
I'm not saying he expected a change in US policy. But people have made these types of statement throughout history, I'm not sure they were all mentally unstable........ I disagree. I don’t see how any sane person comes to the conclusion that setting themselves on fire is the answer to anything. It’s not even top of the page news on most US websites I’ve checked this morning. If he didn’t do it as a protest to change US policy, then it’s even more confusing. If he did, then it’s just a massive waste of a life. I hope he didn’t have children. Feel sorry for his family. In the 60's the burning monks were not pronounced as being mentally ill, their deaths shocked the world and they were headline news everywhere. Sadly most people today aren't even aware of what happened outside the Israeli embassy over the weekend. It's telling how much the world has changed.
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Post by foster on Feb 26, 2024 23:05:45 GMT
People will spend more time debating his mental state than the cause he did it for.
What a waste.
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Feb 27, 2024 8:55:49 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 27, 2024 8:55:49 GMT
This post is not taking sides at all but is just an observation.
The draft terms of a ceasefire are for Israel to release Palestinian prisoners at a ratio of 10:1 for Israeli hostages that include women, children under 19, elderly over 50 and the sick.
Why are Hamas still keeping children, the sick and elderly hostage? Absolutely inexcusable. Actually, why did they take any hostages whatsoever and provoke this barbaric response which they surely knew it would? It is a reminder that both sides are culpable and neither come with clean hands (unlike I suspect 99.9% who have died or been taken hostage since 7 October).
We have no idea why or on what grounds the Palestinians prisoners being released were arrested in the first place, but worst case they have done nothing wrong whatsoever, something we can say with absolute certainty about each and every hostage. So why the 10:1 ratio?
Now we don’t know if those are the final terms of course. But this does not strike me as a deal brokered by a genocidal maniac that Netanyahu has come across as. Quite the contrary.
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