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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 10:58:28 GMT
He won quite a few one on one headers, something that Campbell shies away from! Completely different players though? Powell is okay in the air, so he can challenge for the ball. Campbell isn't going to win headers, so tries to roll the man and force the opponent to misplace his header or miss it. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 9, 2023 11:01:08 GMT
We can't afford to keep paying sick pay.
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Post by nonameface on May 9, 2023 11:14:11 GMT
If he is being kept it needs to be as a target man (or wide target) only, where his aerial ability and finishing is better put to use. Would prefer that than someone like Barnes.
His vision and control of passing isn't good enough for playing as an attacking mid.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 9, 2023 11:16:58 GMT
Played out of position again in a team that is struggling to pass piss, the ball lumped up to him and over his time here one of the most fouled players in the league. - Injury prone? broke his leg while playing for Stoke and came back too soon. Scored 27 goals for a Stoke side that has finished in the bottom half of the table since relegation and hardly been free flowing or free scoring. Loads of shit being spouted about him hating Stoke which is exactly that - shit, loads of rubbish claiming he's earning £30k a week which is exactly that - rubbish. Let's not let the facts get in the way of agendas though eh. Gouranga.  |
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Post by redstriper on May 9, 2023 11:18:02 GMT
Scored some important goals, decent player at his best - shame he was injured so often. We've had far worse than him, people on here are frustrated - i get that, but he shouldn't be a scapegoat.
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Post by nott1 on May 9, 2023 11:25:31 GMT
If he is being kept it needs to be as a target man (or wide target) only, where his aerial ability and finishing is better put to use. Would prefer that than someone like Barnes. His vision and control of passing isn't good enough for playing as an attacking mid. Barnes has scored 90 ish goals since 2010 in 400 odd games for his last two teams. He is 33 yrs old past it and not good enough! That lad Davis yesterday was ripping through our defence like a knife through butter with pace, a much better prospect! |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 9, 2023 11:52:44 GMT
Most of us could rip through a defence with Fox and Jags at its heart. Put Tuanzebe in there and I'm not sure it would have been the same.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 11:57:47 GMT
He won quite a few one on one headers, something that Campbell shies away from! Completely different players though? Powell is okay in the air, so he can challenge for the ball. Campbell isn't going to win headers, so tries to roll the man and force the opponent to misplace his header or miss it. Campbell backs into his defender when they are in the air. Personally, I think that’s dangerous play. If he has no interest in attempting to jump for the ball, he should just stand there and watch. Gayle, who is not 6 foot, is significantly more competitive in the air. Campbell lacks aggression. To me, that’s his biggest weakness. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 12:05:45 GMT
Completely different players though? Powell is okay in the air, so he can challenge for the ball. Campbell isn't going to win headers, so tries to roll the man and force the opponent to misplace his header or miss it. Campbell backs into his defender when they are in the air. Personally, I think that’s dangerous play. If he has no interest in attempting to jump for the ball, he should just stand there and watch. Gayle, who is not 6 foot, is significantly more competitive in the air. Campbell lacks aggression. To me, that’s his biggest weakness. Campbell has won 44 and lost 57 aerial duels (43.6%) this season, Gayle has won 46 and lost 75 (38%), so Campbell has been better in the air. I think he does the rolling thing rather than the Kane thing, he's putting the player off the header, not causing them to fall. I don't really know what aggression you want from him, he's been great at recovering the ball and really exceptional in the pressing unit when we were on the good run of 10 or so games. He's well above average in offensive duels and in success rate. |
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Post by knype on May 9, 2023 12:09:21 GMT
If he is being kept it needs to be as a target man (or wide target) only, where his aerial ability and finishing is better put to use. Would prefer that than someone like Barnes. His vision and control of passing isn't good enough for playing as an attacking mid. Barnes has scored 90 ish goals since 2010 in 400 odd games for his last two teams. He is 33 yrs old past it and not good enough! That lad Davis yesterday was ripping through our defence like a knife through butter with pace, a much better prospect! A brick wall would have ripped through our defence with Fox and Jagielka in it ffs |
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Post by knype on May 9, 2023 12:10:08 GMT
Most of us could rip through a defence with Fox and Jags at its heart. Put Tuanzebe in there and I'm not sure it would have been the same. Another one who seems to spend more time on the physio couch! |
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Post by flea79 on May 9, 2023 12:12:34 GMT
Most of us could rip through a defence with Fox and Jags at its heart. Put Tuanzebe in there and I'm not sure it would have been the same. Another one who seems to spend more time on the physio couch! table surely! couch makes it sound like he is having some CBT therapy!!! |
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Post by knype on May 9, 2023 12:13:24 GMT
Another one who seems to spend more time on the physio couch! table surely! couch makes it sound like he is having some CBT therapy!!! It may well be CBT for all we know? |
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Post by jokker on May 9, 2023 12:15:09 GMT
If he is being kept it needs to be as a target man (or wide target) only, where his aerial ability and finishing is better put to use. Would prefer that than someone like Barnes. His vision and control of passing isn't good enough for playing as an attacking mid. Name one scfc player in the last 3½ years who has consistently had better vision and "control" of passing than Powell. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 12:17:06 GMT
Campbell backs into his defender when they are in the air. Personally, I think that’s dangerous play. If he has no interest in attempting to jump for the ball, he should just stand there and watch. Gayle, who is not 6 foot, is significantly more competitive in the air. Campbell lacks aggression. To me, that’s his biggest weakness. Campbell has won 44 and lost 57 aerial duels (43.6%) this season, Gayle has won 46 and lost 75 (38%), so Campbell has been better in the air. I think he does the rolling thing rather than the Kane thing, he's putting the player off the header, not causing them to fall. I don't really know what aggression you want from him, he's been great at recovering the ball and really exceptional in the pressing unit when we were on the good run of 10 or so games. He's well above average in offensive duels and in success rate. “ unit when we were on the good run of 10 or so games.” 5 games. I didn’t realize he’d done marginally better than Gayle. Perhaps Gayle just stands out more when he does win them because he’s 10 years older and 2-3 inches shorter. I don’t think that losing more headers than you’ve won is a decent return though, but perhaps I am wrong. I like Campbell, but I’ve rarely watched him track back, nor win unexpected 50-50 duels, nor initiate the press. Overall, I think he lacks aggression and comes across more diminutive than his height and frame really is. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 12:54:40 GMT
Campbell has won 44 and lost 57 aerial duels (43.6%) this season, Gayle has won 46 and lost 75 (38%), so Campbell has been better in the air. I think he does the rolling thing rather than the Kane thing, he's putting the player off the header, not causing them to fall. I don't really know what aggression you want from him, he's been great at recovering the ball and really exceptional in the pressing unit when we were on the good run of 10 or so games. He's well above average in offensive duels and in success rate. “ unit when we were on the good run of 10 or so games.” 5 games. I didn’t realize he’d done marginally better than Gayle. Perhaps Gayle just stands out more when he does win them because he’s 10 years older and 2-3 inches shorter. I don’t think that losing more headers than you’ve won is a decent return though, but perhaps I am wrong. I like Campbell, but I’ve rarely watched him track back, nor win unexpected 50-50 duels, nor initiate the press. Overall, I think he lacks aggression and comes across more diminutive than his height and frame really is. He's got a better win % than 70% of all forwards in the league, I think the average is lower than expected. He's never been in the role to initiate the press, that's always the central player, then the wide players sit off and set a trap on the wider defenders when the ball goes out to them. Maybe it's his role, maybe it's just optics, but I think he's absolutely fine. He's not Jacob Brown, but he doesn't need to be. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 12:58:48 GMT
“ unit when we were on the good run of 10 or so games.” 5 games. I didn’t realize he’d done marginally better than Gayle. Perhaps Gayle just stands out more when he does win them because he’s 10 years older and 2-3 inches shorter. I don’t think that losing more headers than you’ve won is a decent return though, but perhaps I am wrong. I like Campbell, but I’ve rarely watched him track back, nor win unexpected 50-50 duels, nor initiate the press. Overall, I think he lacks aggression and comes across more diminutive than his height and frame really is. He's got a better win % than 70% of all forwards in the league, I think the average is lower than expected. He's never been in the role to initiate the press, that's always the central player, then the wide players sit off and set a trap on the wider defenders when the ball goes out to them. Maybe it's his role, maybe it's just optics, but I think he's absolutely fine. He's not Jacob Brown, but he doesn't need to be. I didn’t realize that the average for headers was so low. I remove that complaint then. I still stand by my point r.e. aggression. We are one of the least aggressive teams in the league and that runs right through the squad including both Brown and Campbell. Neither are willing to give/take a kick to win that 50-50. It’s a chronic problem and just makes us so soft, especially at home. P.s. overall, shouldn’t a good press be driven by the side of the pitch that it starts in? Brown is often actively engaged in the press on his flank. Anyways, hopefully signing Pearson, a target man and a defender (or two) that want to win those 50-50s will quell my frustrations on aggression. We’ll see what the window brings. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 13:01:49 GMT
He's got a better win % than 70% of all forwards in the league, I think the average is lower than expected. He's never been in the role to initiate the press, that's always the central player, then the wide players sit off and set a trap on the wider defenders when the ball goes out to them. Maybe it's his role, maybe it's just optics, but I think he's absolutely fine. He's not Jacob Brown, but he doesn't need to be. I didn’t realize that the average for headers was so low. I remove that complaint then. I still stand by my point r.e. aggression. We are one of the least aggressive teams in the league and that runs right through the squad including both Brown and Campbell. Neither are willing to give/take a kick to win that 50-50. It’s a chronic problem and just makes us so soft, especially at home. I don't want to go all stats on you but I'm sure I heard on the radio we're top 2 or 3 in terms of pressing intensity  EDIT - checked, we're 2nd, only behind Burnley! |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 13:07:51 GMT
I didn’t realize that the average for headers was so low. I remove that complaint then. I still stand by my point r.e. aggression. We are one of the least aggressive teams in the league and that runs right through the squad including both Brown and Campbell. Neither are willing to give/take a kick to win that 50-50. It’s a chronic problem and just makes us so soft, especially at home. I don't want to go all stats on you but I'm sure I heard on the radio we're top 2 or 3 in terms of pressing intensity EDIT - checked, we're 2nd, only behind Burnley! And have the 2nd lowest disciplinary record apparently as well, indicating that we are either amazing at tackling (unlikely) or are running around a lot but not actually contesting those 50-50s. We are obviously doing something wrong as we could have easily gone down this year if one or two results didn’t drop for us. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 13:09:03 GMT
I don't want to go all stats on you but I'm sure I heard on the radio we're top 2 or 3 in terms of pressing intensity EDIT - checked, we're 2nd, only behind Burnley! And have the 2nd lowest disciplinary record apparently as well, indicating that we are either amazing at tackling (unlikely) or are running around a lot but not actually contesting those 50-50s. The pressing intensity thing only takes into account defensive actions that we win, by my understanding. I'd imagine the discipline is as it is because we do a *lot* of defensive work, very aggressively. |
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Post by pushon on May 9, 2023 17:44:47 GMT
And have the 2nd lowest disciplinary record apparently as well, indicating that we are either amazing at tackling (unlikely) or are running around a lot but not actually contesting those 50-50s. The pressing intensity thing only takes into account defensive actions that we win, by my understanding. I'd imagine the discipline is as it is because we do a *lot* of defensive work, very aggressively. I interprate the disciplinary record as being 'favourable', ie we don't get admonished much for disciplinary or foul-play reasons.🤔 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 9, 2023 17:49:38 GMT
Total embarrassment. Why the manager would play him there getting long balls lumped up to him I'll never know. He wanted Powell to look bad, so we'd support his decision to let our best player leave...shades of Rowett and Bojan. Rubbish |
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Post by march4 on May 9, 2023 18:06:53 GMT
When is the retained list published?
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Post by wakeypotter on May 9, 2023 18:09:21 GMT
Total embarrassment. Why the manager would play him there getting long balls lumped up to him I'll never know. He wanted Powell to look bad, so we'd support his decision to let our best player leave...shades of Rowett and Bojan. 😂😂😂😂😂😂I’ve heard it all now |
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Post by wakeypotter on May 9, 2023 18:15:50 GMT
Good luck to him personally I’m glad he’s gone.
I thought he was ok but wow massively overrated on here by some.
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Post by stokesupporter on May 9, 2023 18:16:47 GMT
Powell is part of the problem, only shows if he feels like it. I won't be missing him.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 9, 2023 18:17:15 GMT
He wanted Powell to look bad, so we'd support his decision to let our best player leave...shades of Rowett and Bojan. 😂😂😂😂😂😂I’ve heard it all now I’m sure all will become clear in his forthcoming warts and all autobiography “Nick, the Flick and the Sick”. |
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Post by wakeypotter on May 9, 2023 18:21:01 GMT
😂😂😂😂😂😂I’ve heard it all now I’m sure all will become clear in his forthcoming warts and all autobiography “Nick, the Flick and the Sick”. 😂😂😂 |
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on May 9, 2023 20:39:33 GMT
Played out of position again in a team that is struggling to pass piss, the ball lumped up to him and over his time here one of the most fouled players in the league. - Injury prone? broke his leg while playing for Stoke and came back too soon. Scored 27 goals for a Stoke side that has finished in the bottom half of the table since relegation and hardly been free flowing or free scoring. Loads of shit being spouted about him hating Stoke which is exactly that - shit, loads of rubbish claiming he's earning £30k a week which is exactly that - rubbish. Let's not let the facts get in the way of agendas though eh. Gouranga. Post of the day  |
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on May 9, 2023 20:59:43 GMT
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