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Post by HarryTheHat on May 12, 2023 17:15:15 GMT
Excellent news!
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Post by jollypotter88 on May 12, 2023 17:36:57 GMT
Coming on Friday 26th May..
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 12, 2023 17:39:07 GMT
He's dreadful.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2023 17:53:08 GMT
I've got to admit, his words in the Sentinel made me chuckle.
“I think everybody should be really optimistic about next season because myself and the rest of the lads who are in the building at the moment are optimistic. It will be a really good season for everybody."
Rest of the lads in the building? I'm not sure Stan the painter and Pete the Milkman's opinions are anything to hang your hat on...
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Post by FullerMagic on May 12, 2023 17:55:13 GMT
I've got to admit, his words in the Sentinel made me chuckle. “I think everybody should be really optimistic about next season because myself and the rest of the lads who are in the building at the moment are optimistic. It will be a really good season for everybody." Rest of the lads in the building? I'm not sure Stan the painter and Pete the Milkman's opinions are anything to hang your hat on... Colin, the chef from the canteen, is normally a shrewd judge though.... |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 12, 2023 18:03:21 GMT
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Post by RF10 on May 12, 2023 18:10:35 GMT
This is what frustrates me about the Coates family. They have form for extending contracts and sealing transfers for players with long term injuries. It's just a very classy way to operate and as a fan it makes me so proud. The Yang to that Yin is how they run the day to day grunt which has seen us bottom half for 5 years in a row, and as a fan it makes me so angry! They should have sent Rory back straight away. |
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Post by a on May 12, 2023 18:13:19 GMT
Butland’s blooper reel was stunning that season but he had a good month as usually happens and sways the vote. It’s a pointless award. Didn’t fit your narrative? Such a shame 😢 |
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Post by a on May 12, 2023 18:13:32 GMT
It's not really fair that we all get a vote when Bayern could have chosen for us all. Exactly |
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Post by a on May 12, 2023 18:15:21 GMT
Makes sense though, why would it be open to a player who’s had 1 good game but otherwise not played?? |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2023 19:05:46 GMT
Good news for me, I like Ben he's a brave player and keeps playing his game and going for his passes even when a few don't come off.
We need a few more with his character. It's been one of the big ingredients missing with our squad ever since we got relegated. Too many players make a mistake and then start to take the easy option when the crowd react to it.
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Post by nottsover60 on May 12, 2023 20:39:06 GMT
Wilmot needs to add consistency to his game , but I bet he and the manager know that .He can drive forward with the ball 40 yards then give the ball away but he's also got good pace for a centre half so hopefully he will continue to develop The second half of this season he cut out a lot of his mistakes and had a very consistent last few months. It's no coincidence that as soon as he got injured we reverted back to pointlessly passing across the backline and stopped getting the ball forward quickly. I suspect Neil sees him as a very important part of his team and therefore wanted to reward him with better wages and a longer contract. He's a much better player than Souttar and this means we can put a high price on his head. |
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Post by marwood on May 12, 2023 20:46:54 GMT
I've got to admit, his words in the Sentinel made me chuckle. “I think everybody should be really optimistic about next season because myself and the rest of the lads who are in the building at the moment are optimistic. It will be a really good season for everybody." Rest of the lads in the building? I'm not sure Stan the painter and Pete the Milkman's opinions are anything to hang your hat on... “In the building “ and “on the grass” are two modern equivalents of “apples to drop” and “game of two halves” |
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Post by chamberlain on May 12, 2023 22:12:42 GMT
Wilmot needs to add consistency to his game , but I bet he and the manager know that .He can drive forward with the ball 40 yards then give the ball away but he's also got good pace for a centre half so hopefully he will continue to develop The second half of this season he cut out a lot of his mistakes and had a very consistent last few months. It's no coincidence that as soon as he got injured we reverted back to pointlessly passing across the backline and stopped getting the ball forward quickly. I suspect Neil sees him as a very important part of his team and therefore wanted to reward him with better wages and a longer contract. He's a much better player than Souttar and this means we can put a high price on his head. Definitely not a much better player than Souttar |
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Post by nigerianstokie on May 12, 2023 23:12:38 GMT
This is what frustrates me about the Coates family. They have form for extending contracts and sealing transfers for players with long term injuries. It's just a very classy way to operate and as a fan it makes me so proud. The Yang to that Yin is how they run the day to day grunt which has seen us bottom half for 5 years in a row, and as a fan it makes me so angry! I can’t help but think this is a lovely bit of news based on the first part of it. He’s a solid player, well worth a decent Championship contract. But there’s a time and a place and it isn’t a summer with only 7 players under contract or whatever the number may be, many of which aren’t up to standard. This is surely the kind of business that could have waited. I feel slightly harsh saying this as I like the deal in itself, but not so much with so much to do right now that renewing 2+ year contracts barely registers on the list of priorities does it? |
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Post by nottsover60 on May 12, 2023 23:38:49 GMT
The second half of this season he cut out a lot of his mistakes and had a very consistent last few months. It's no coincidence that as soon as he got injured we reverted back to pointlessly passing across the backline and stopped getting the ball forward quickly. I suspect Neil sees him as a very important part of his team and therefore wanted to reward him with better wages and a longer contract. He's a much better player than Souttar and this means we can put a high price on his head. Definitely not a much better player than Souttar Different opinions. In my opinion Souttar is a good defender because of his physical attributes but Wilmot is a better footballer. I am prepared to accept that you see it differently. I always thought Souttar would be found out in the Premier. I'm not sure yet whether Wilmot will be good enough. His stats look good though so maybe a Brentford or Brighton would look at him. I refer you back to Potterlytics earlier post for evidence of this. Heis weakness is in the air at which Souttar is understandably eye catching lay good but in he Premier I think football is generally played more on the ground, negating Souttar's strength. |
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Post by george2again on May 13, 2023 5:25:56 GMT
Well as a club I don’t think we should have offered him a new deal until there evidence there’s no lasting damage after the injury. Any recurring back problems and it will look a poor decision. It’s not as though there would be a rush of clubs coming in to sign him so premature for me. As a player he’s deffo not one you ‘build your team around’ . Not the best in the air due to his size and my gut feeling would be he shouldn’t really be a guaranteed starter. Good attitude and quite athletic but not the ideal Championship centre back. Oh and no where near Souttar’ level.
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Post by andystokey on May 13, 2023 5:56:18 GMT
This is what frustrates me about the Coates family. They have form for extending contracts and sealing transfers for players with long term injuries. It's just a very classy way to operate and as a fan it makes me so proud. The Yang to that Yin is how they run the day to day grunt which has seen us bottom half for 5 years in a row, and as a fan it makes me so angry! I can’t help but think this is a lovely bit of news based on the first part of it. He’s a solid player, well worth a decent Championship contract. But there’s a time and a place and it isn’t a summer with only 7 players under contract or whatever the number may be, many of which aren’t up to standard. This is surely the kind of business that could have waited. I feel slightly harsh saying this as I like the deal in itself, but not so much with so much to do right now that renewing 2+ year contracts barely registers on the list of priorities does it? I think we are going to be busy enough in June and July. Why wouldn't we get the easy business out of the way quickly if we can? |
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Post by nottsover60 on May 13, 2023 8:52:14 GMT
This is what frustrates me about the Coates family. They have form for extending contracts and sealing transfers for players with long term injuries. It's just a very classy way to operate and as a fan it makes me so proud. The Yang to that Yin is how they run the day to day grunt which has seen us bottom half for 5 years in a row, and as a fan it makes me so angry! I can’t help but think this is a lovely bit of news based on the first part of it. He’s a solid player, well worth a decent Championship contract. But there’s a time and a place and it isn’t a summer with only 7 players under contract or whatever the number may be, many of which aren’t up to standard. This is surely the kind of business that could have waited. I feel slightly harsh saying this as I like the deal in itself, but not so much with so much to do right now that renewing 2+ year contracts barely registers on the list of priorities does it? We don't know what is happening behind the scenes do we? As I say above his stats are very impressive which must mean he is cropping up on the lists of clubs like Brentford and Brighton who use stats led recruitment. Give him another year, better wages and a higher value means we have protected our asset and won't lose him for peanuts. Do it now because if his agent gets a slight sniff that a Premier club are interested in him, he won't be extending his contract with us. |
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Post by nottsover60 on May 13, 2023 9:05:01 GMT
Well as a club I don’t think we should have offered him a new deal until there evidence there’s no lasting damage after the injury. Any recurring back problems and it will look a poor decision. It’s not as though there would be a rush of clubs coming in to sign him so premature for me. As a player he’s deffo not one you ‘build your team around’ . Not the best in the air due to his size and my gut feeling would be he shouldn’t really be a guaranteed starter. Good attitude and quite athletic but not the ideal Championship centre back. Oh and no where near Souttar’ level. On what do you base your opinion that he is nowhere near Souttar's level? Have you looked at the stats Potterlytics has shared or read his article? His stats are in the top ten percentile for Championship defenders. I don't know if there is anything similar available for Souttar - I imagine he hasn't played enough this season. Next season when Leicester come down we may get a direct comparison. I am not one who is over impressed with Souttar. He is good in the air and passionate, both eye catching attributes alongside his physique but I suspect a lot of what Potterlytics discusses about Wilmot goes unnoticed by fans on TV or even at the ground. For example the fact that he just manages to arrive at the perfect time to nick the ball off an opponent. I went on about Freddy Steele saying that if he had to make a tackle then he knew that he had made a mistake. Wilmot's reading of the game and anticipation are at that level but not appreciated by the fans. |
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Post by femark on May 13, 2023 10:03:39 GMT
Another good season and he’ll go for decent money you’d imagine. We’ve probably made him one of our top earners, but I suppose that’s not hard as we only have 7 players. He'd only go for big money to a Premiership club, who of those would want him? 23yr old defender with 2 or 3 very good seasons in the championship…most of the bottom half of the prem I’d imagine. |
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Post by nott1 on May 13, 2023 10:08:08 GMT
He'd only go for big money to a Premiership club, who of those would want him? 23yr old defender with 2 or 3 very good seasons in the championship…most of the bottom half of the prem I’d imagine. Oh really? They could be relegation bound  |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 13, 2023 19:23:22 GMT
Only bit if good news around well done Ben and stoke
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Post by femark on May 14, 2023 10:44:23 GMT
23yr old defender with 2 or 3 very good seasons in the championship…most of the bottom half of the prem I’d imagine. Oh really? They could be relegation bound Any reason you enjoy bashing some of our best players? |
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Post by nott1 on May 14, 2023 11:11:33 GMT
Oh really? They could be relegation bound Any reason you enjoy bashing some of our best players? He might well be one of our best players but he would not be a big star in the Premiership therefore he will not get into a big team, just the truth! |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 14, 2023 11:32:37 GMT
My god they’re milking this on the stoke socials, I’ve seen about 12 posts on Wilmott since Thursday.
It’s like we’ve got no other players or something 🤣
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 14, 2023 16:46:09 GMT
He'd only go for big money to a Premiership club, who of those would want him? 23yr old defender with 2 or 3 very good seasons in the championship…most of the bottom half of the prem I’d imagine. 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 17:02:55 GMT
Definitely not a much better player than Souttar Different opinions. In my opinion Souttar is a good defender because of his physical attributes but Wilmot is a better footballer. I am prepared to accept that you see it differently. I always thought Souttar would be found out in the Premier. I'm not sure yet whether Wilmot will be good enough. His stats look good though so maybe a Brentford or Brighton would look at him. I refer you back to Potterlytics earlier post for evidence of this. Heis weakness is in the air at which Souttar is understandably eye catching lay good but in he Premier I think football is generally played more on the ground, negating Souttar's strength. Lack of pace is Souttars major flaw at the top level. Wilmot will never be good enough to play regularly in the Premier League, not a chance. If I had to pick one to be at the heart of my defence in this division, then its Souttar every day of the week, head and shoulders above Wilmot in his performances for us. |
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Post by nottsover60 on May 14, 2023 17:09:52 GMT
Different opinions. In my opinion Souttar is a good defender because of his physical attributes but Wilmot is a better footballer. I am prepared to accept that you see it differently. I always thought Souttar would be found out in the Premier. I'm not sure yet whether Wilmot will be good enough. His stats look good though so maybe a Brentford or Brighton would look at him. I refer you back to Potterlytics earlier post for evidence of this. Heis weakness is in the air at which Souttar is understandably eye catching lay good but in he Premier I think football is generally played more on the ground, negating Souttar's strength. Lack of pace is Souttars major flaw at the top level. Wilmot will never be good enough to play regularly in the Premier League, not a chance. If I had to pick one to be at the heart of my defence in this division, then its Souttar every day of the week, head and shoulders above Wilmot in his performances for us. As I say different opinions. I'd pick Wilmot, he's the better footballer and reads the game better. Just out of interest have you read Potterlytics piece on Wilmot? |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 17:56:33 GMT
Lack of pace is Souttars major flaw at the top level. Wilmot will never be good enough to play regularly in the Premier League, not a chance. If I had to pick one to be at the heart of my defence in this division, then its Souttar every day of the week, head and shoulders above Wilmot in his performances for us. As I say different opinions. I'd pick Wilmot, he's the better footballer and reads the game better. Just out of interest have you read Potterlytics piece on Wilmot? No mate I haven't. |
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