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Post by thevoid on Feb 8, 2023 18:51:44 GMT
Still at it I see- quite some commitment for someone who doesn't 'give a shit' about the subject matter or what I think- the fanboy doth protest too much! You seem a little triggered to me- if you don't 'give a shit' then what I choose to watch or not watch is immaterial. No need for pity or amateur level psychology/ gaslighting either, just because I have a different opinion on football to you. My life's sound thanks, made even better by last week's news which puts to bed the dreary 'bring back TP' posts whenever we have a bad spell. Oh, and Waddo is the undisputed most successful manager in the club's history. That's based on facts not your delusional fantasies- not to mention Trophyless Tone being outperformed by Roberto Martinez when it comes to Cup Finals against Man City š I actually think you protest too much sonā¦.oh let me shout my bile and hatred as loudly as I can..you canāt cope with anyone (particularly me it appears) saying the slightest positive thing about TP. Youāre obsessed with hatred and negativity actually . Iām actually celebrating something positive really positive and successful where you spend your life screaming and shouting insanely about how bad and shit and woeful it wasā¦youāre in the minority mate, a noisy vociferous minority but a huge minority. Thatās why I pity you. One of the very best eraās in our history and you didnāt enjoy it. OMG you poor bastard. You're a loony š Bored now anyway, go and wank off to your podcast and release some stress. |
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Post by anchorman on Feb 8, 2023 19:00:29 GMT
I actually think you protest too much sonā¦.oh let me shout my bile and hatred as loudly as I can..you canāt cope with anyone (particularly me it appears) saying the slightest positive thing about TP. Youāre obsessed with hatred and negativity actually . Iām actually celebrating something positive really positive and successful where you spend your life screaming and shouting insanely about how bad and shit and woeful it wasā¦youāre in the minority mate, a noisy vociferous minority but a huge minority. Thatās why I pity you. One of the very best eraās in our history and you didnāt enjoy it. OMG you poor bastard. You're a loony š Bored now anyway, go and wank off to your podcast and release some stress. Thereās only one loony tunes and thatās youā¦.you need help..make sure get some. |
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Post by anchorman on Feb 8, 2023 19:01:43 GMT
You're a loony š Bored now anyway, go and wank off to your podcast and release some stress. Thereās only one loony tunes and thatās youā¦.you need help..make sure get some. |
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Post by elystokie on Feb 8, 2023 19:20:43 GMT
Still at it I see- quite some commitment for someone who doesn't 'give a shit' about the subject matter or what I think- the fanboy doth protest too much! You seem a little triggered to me- if you don't 'give a shit' then what I choose to watch or not watch is immaterial. No need for pity or amateur level psychology/ gaslighting either, just because I have a different opinion on football to you. My life's sound thanks, made even better by last week's news which puts to bed the dreary 'bring back TP' posts whenever we have a bad spell. Oh, and Waddo is the undisputed most successful manager in the club's history. That's based on facts not your delusional fantasies- not to mention Trophyless Tone being outperformed by Roberto Martinez when it comes to Cup Finals against Man City š I actually think you protest too much sonā¦.oh let me shout my bile and hatred as loudly as I can..you canāt cope with anyone (particularly me it appears) saying the slightest positive thing about TP. Youāre obsessed with hatred and negativity actually . Iām actually celebrating something positive really positive and successful where you spend your life screaming and shouting insanely about how bad and shit and woeful it wasā¦youāre in the minority mate, a noisy vociferous minority but a huge minority. Thatās why I pity you. One of the very best eraās in our history and you didnāt enjoy it. OMG you poor bastard. Just how 'huge' does a minority have to get before it's no longer a minority? |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 8, 2023 19:59:51 GMT
He split the fans when he was here, reading some of the threads, he is still splitting the fans.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 8, 2023 20:54:08 GMT
Still at it I see- quite some commitment for someone who doesn't 'give a shit' about the subject matter or what I think- the fanboy doth protest too much! You seem a little triggered to me- if you don't 'give a shit' then what I choose to watch or not watch is immaterial. No need for pity or amateur level psychology/ gaslighting either, just because I have a different opinion on football to you. My life's sound thanks, made even better by last week's news which puts to bed the dreary 'bring back TP' posts whenever we have a bad spell. Oh, and Waddo is the undisputed most successful manager in the club's history. That's based on facts not your delusional fantasies- not to mention Trophyless Tone being outperformed by Roberto Martinez when it comes to Cup Finals against Man City š I actually think you protest too much sonā¦.oh let me shout my bile and hatred as loudly as I can..you canāt cope with anyone (particularly me it appears) saying the slightest positive thing about TP. Youāre obsessed with hatred and negativity actually . Iām actually celebrating something positive really positive and successful where you spend your life screaming and shouting insanely about how bad and shit and woeful it wasā¦youāre in the minority mate, a noisy vociferous minority but a huge minority. Thatās why I pity you. One of the very best eraās in our history and you didnāt enjoy it. OMG you poor bastard. This ā¬ļø Voidā¦ā¦says it all really. |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 8, 2023 20:59:25 GMT
I actually think you protest too much sonā¦.oh let me shout my bile and hatred as loudly as I can..you canāt cope with anyone (particularly me it appears) saying the slightest positive thing about TP. Youāre obsessed with hatred and negativity actually . Iām actually celebrating something positive really positive and successful where you spend your life screaming and shouting insanely about how bad and shit and woeful it wasā¦youāre in the minority mate, a noisy vociferous minority but a huge minority. Thatās why I pity you. One of the very best eraās in our history and you didnāt enjoy it. OMG you poor bastard. This ā¬ļø Voidā¦ā¦says it all really. How original. You used the same line the other day, time for some new material. Maybe write a dossier? |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 8, 2023 21:01:53 GMT
You're a loony š Bored now anyway, go and wank off to your podcast and release some stress. Thereās only one loony tunes and thatās youā¦.you need help..make sure get some. Do you call yourself Debs when you touch yourself? Bet you hate her, having your Tone all to herself. She doesn't appreciate him like you would. He deserves better- he deserves you, anchorman. |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Feb 9, 2023 1:09:54 GMT
What a man.
I love how he remembers absolutely everything as well about the games even now, just like you would if you were a fan.
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Post by anchorman on Feb 9, 2023 9:26:08 GMT
Thereās only one loony tunes and thatās youā¦.you need help..make sure get some. Do you call yourself Debs when you touch yourself? Bet you hate her, having your Tone all to herself. She doesn't appreciate him like you would. He deserves better- he deserves you, anchorman. Dear me, you really are pathetic. You sad inadequate individual. Iāll leave you to wallow in your vile world of hatred & vitriol. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 9, 2023 10:12:35 GMT
He split the fans when he was here, reading some of the threads, he is still splitting the fans. A serious question. How did āheā split the fans when he was here? I canāt remember him saying or doing anything that could be viewed as being derogatory about the club, the family, the supporters or the City. I can remember arguments on this board about footballing matters which created a division, see one particular poster on this thread that is abusive to others who donāt agree with his train of thought. See how many have enjoyed the podcast and wish him well It is really is a serious question!! |
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 9, 2023 10:40:42 GMT
He split the fans when he was here, reading some of the threads, he is still splitting the fans. A serious question. How did āheā split the fans when he was here? I canāt remember him saying or doing anything that could be viewed as being derogatory about the club, the family, the supporters or the City. I can remember arguments on this board about footballing matters which created a division, see one particular poster on this thread that is abusive to others who donāt agree with his train of thought. See how many have enjoyed the podcast and wish him well It is really is a serious question!! He has split the fanbase at every club he has been, whether that's with his style of play to his digs at 'herberts' |
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Post by elystokie on Feb 9, 2023 12:57:38 GMT
A serious question. Ā How did āheā split the fans when he was here? Ā I canāt remember him saying or doing anything that could be viewed as being derogatory about the club, the family, the supporters or the City. I can remember arguments on this board about footballing matters which created a division, see one particular poster on this thread that is abusive to others who donāt agree with his train of thought. Ā See how many have enjoyed the podcast and wish him well It is really is a serious question!! He has split the fanbase at every club he has been, whether that's with his style of play to his digs at 'herberts' Indeed, I lived in Pompey when he was manager there, I knew loads of Pompey fans, it was exactly the same. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 9, 2023 13:26:42 GMT
A serious question. How did āheā split the fans when he was here? I canāt remember him saying or doing anything that could be viewed as being derogatory about the club, the family, the supporters or the City. I can remember arguments on this board about footballing matters which created a division, see one particular poster on this thread that is abusive to others who donāt agree with his train of thought. See how many have enjoyed the podcast and wish him well It is really is a serious question!! He has split the fanbase at every club he has been, whether that's with his style of play to his digs at 'herberts' Pugs. Iām not really interested in other clubs. Letās stick to his tenure with us. My question (a truly inquisitive one) was how āheā split the supporter base. Was it based on āThe Truthā as being the result of some form of independent investigation into a particular incident or set of incidents, Someone elseās truth based on what they say āmust be truthā or is it simply down to differing opinion? Perhaps Iām in a different place and have different experiences but all of the long standing supporters who I know personally and those who I know from the pub wonāt have a word said against him. Iām certainly not of the opinion he should be back at the helm. I am and will remain steadfast in my opinion that heās one of four managers in my lifetime that provided great times down at the Vic and the Brit. A grateful thanks to all. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 9, 2023 13:38:46 GMT
He split the fans when he was here, reading some of the threads, he is still splitting the fans. A serious question. How did āheā split the fans when he was here? I canāt remember him saying or doing anything that could be viewed as being derogatory about the club, the family, the supporters or the City. I can remember arguments on this board about footballing matters which created a division, see one particular poster on this thread that is abusive to others who donāt agree with his train of thought. See how many have enjoyed the podcast and wish him well It is really is a serious question!! He was one of those managers you either loved or didnt,whilst here, he was loved by some & disliked by others. That's why I said he split the fan base. |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 9, 2023 13:46:27 GMT
He split the fans when he was here, reading some of the threads, he is still splitting the fans. A serious question. How did āheā split the fans when he was here? I canāt remember him saying or doing anything that could be viewed as being derogatory about the club, the family, the supporters or the City. I can remember arguments on this board about footballing matters which created a division, see one particular poster on this thread that is abusive to others who donāt agree with his train of thought. See how many have enjoyed the podcast and wish him well It is really is a serious question!! He was a massive bullshitter, would never answer questions with a straight answer, particularly critical ones, was capable of being at best patronising to players and fans alike (good kiddy, these Stokie working class simpletons just like haaard word and running around, steak and chips) and at worst outright contemptuous (save up all your pennies for Valencia, the Beattie incident). His football was a tough watch for many and only tolerable if there was an element of something explosive e.g. Ric, Pennant, Rory's throw (it did for him in the end when none of those things were present). On the other hand he was the architect of something so unique and special I doubt England's top division will ever see the like of it again, got a team of relatively limited resources so well-drilled and solid they routinely wiped the floor with far more illustrious opponents, got us to our first ever FA Cup Final, was nothing but a gentleman to those who came to know him, stuck two fingers up at the snobs, became heavily invested in the club and the area and made big personal commitments/sacrifices to contribute to local charities. So there you go, never mind splitting "the fans", he's perfectly capable of splitting *one* fan. On balance I'm fond of him despite still holding some grudges, and I'll look back on his time here with (tempered) gratitude. |
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 9, 2023 13:49:18 GMT
He split the fans when he was here, reading some of the threads, he is still splitting the fans. It really doesn't take much though! |
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 9, 2023 13:53:08 GMT
A serious question. How did āheā split the fans when he was here? I canāt remember him saying or doing anything that could be viewed as being derogatory about the club, the family, the supporters or the City. I can remember arguments on this board about footballing matters which created a division, see one particular poster on this thread that is abusive to others who donāt agree with his train of thought. See how many have enjoyed the podcast and wish him well It is really is a serious question!! He was a massive bullshitter, would never answer questions with a straight answer, particularly critical ones, was capable of being at best patronising to players and fans alike (good kiddy, these Stokie working class simpletons just like haaard word and running around, steak and chips) and at worst outright contemptuous (save up all your pennies for Valencia, the Beattie incident). His football was a tough watch for many and only tolerable if there was an element of something explosive e.g. Ric, Pennant, Rory's throw (it did for him in the end when none of those things were present). On the other hand he was the architect of something so unique and special I doubt England's top division will ever see the like of it again, got a team of relatively limited resources so well-drilled and solid they routinely wiped the floor with far more illustrious opponents, got us to our first ever FA Cup Final, was nothing but a gentleman to those who came to know him, stuck two fingers up at the snobs, became heavily invested in the club and the area and made big personal commitments/sacrifices to contribute to local charities. So there you go, never mind splitting "the fans", he's perfectly capable of splitting *one* fan. On balance I'm fond of him despite still holding some grudges, and I'll look back on his time here with (tempered) gratitude. Great appraisal that! Would echo every word of this myself. Shows that someone can be both a force for good, and something less savoury at the same time, not Either/Or |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 9, 2023 14:11:08 GMT
A serious question. How did āheā split the fans when he was here? I canāt remember him saying or doing anything that could be viewed as being derogatory about the club, the family, the supporters or the City. I can remember arguments on this board about footballing matters which created a division, see one particular poster on this thread that is abusive to others who donāt agree with his train of thought. See how many have enjoyed the podcast and wish him well It is really is a serious question!! He was one of those managers you either loved or didnt,whilst here, he was loved by some & disliked by others. That's why I said he split the fan base. You can dislike someone but at the same time acknowledge and respect their achievements. A serious question only because of the term āheā. Was the split 75/25, 50/50, 60/40ā¦.(against/for). How was the split measured. If you look at this post I think youāll find that the vast majority posting are positive posts. On the other hand (as an example) thereās one particular poster that has probably posted the opposite view on most pagesā¦ā¦..you can see where Iām going |
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Post by dave1 on Feb 9, 2023 14:16:58 GMT
I don't know how any stoke fan couldn't enjoy that podcast. He's the mesiah! Without TP there wouldn't have been any premier league football, no FA cup final or European adventure!
Pains me to see the state that we are in now!!!
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 9, 2023 14:32:12 GMT
A serious question. How did āheā split the fans when he was here? I canāt remember him saying or doing anything that could be viewed as being derogatory about the club, the family, the supporters or the City. I can remember arguments on this board about footballing matters which created a division, see one particular poster on this thread that is abusive to others who donāt agree with his train of thought. See how many have enjoyed the podcast and wish him well It is really is a serious question!! He was a massive bullshitter, would never answer questions with a straight answer, particularly critical ones, was capable of being at best patronising to players and fans alike (good kiddy, these Stokie working class simpletons just like haaard word and running around, steak and chips) and at worst outright contemptuous (save up all your pennies for Valencia, the Beattie incident). His football was a tough watch for many and only tolerable if there was an element of something explosive e.g. Ric, Pennant, Rory's throw (it did for him in the end when none of those things were present). On the other hand he was the architect of something so unique and special I doubt England's top division will ever see the like of it again, got a team of relatively limited resources so well-drilled and solid they routinely wiped the floor with far more illustrious opponents, got us to our first ever FA Cup Final, was nothing but a gentleman to those who came to know him, stuck two fingers up at the snobs, became heavily invested in the club and the area and made big personal commitments/sacrifices to contribute to local charities. So there you go, never mind splitting "the fans", he's perfectly capable of splitting *one* fan. On balance I'm fond of him despite still holding some grudges, and I'll look back on his time here with (tempered) gratitude. If you havenāt already can I recommend you watch/listen to the podcast. On one particular point about him being patronising of the supporters and the City, Iāll certainly disagree. However going back to the podcast youāll understand his background/upbringing and what his perceptions were of Stoke on Trent and itās people. Patronisingā¦ā¦never Iād certainly love to experience again his contempt for people who travelled to Valencia. The āwholeā occasion was probably one of my best experiences of travelling to Stoke games. I also understand his rational for the team selection with the up and coming EPL matches. āIāll look back on his time here with (tempered) gratitudeā. š. Opinions eh š |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 9, 2023 14:43:22 GMT
He was a massive bullshitter, would never answer questions with a straight answer, particularly critical ones, was capable of being at best patronising to players and fans alike (good kiddy, these Stokie working class simpletons just like haaard word and running around, steak and chips) and at worst outright contemptuous (save up all your pennies for Valencia, the Beattie incident). His football was a tough watch for many and only tolerable if there was an element of something explosive e.g. Ric, Pennant, Rory's throw (it did for him in the end when none of those things were present). On the other hand he was the architect of something so unique and special I doubt England's top division will ever see the like of it again, got a team of relatively limited resources so well-drilled and solid they routinely wiped the floor with far more illustrious opponents, got us to our first ever FA Cup Final, was nothing but a gentleman to those who came to know him, stuck two fingers up at the snobs, became heavily invested in the club and the area and made big personal commitments/sacrifices to contribute to local charities. So there you go, never mind splitting "the fans", he's perfectly capable of splitting *one* fan. On balance I'm fond of him despite still holding some grudges, and I'll look back on his time here with (tempered) gratitude. If you havenāt already can I recommend you watch/listen to the podcast. On one particular point about him being patronising of the supporters and the City, Iāll certainly disagree. However going back to the podcast youāll understand his background/upbringing and what his perceptions were of Stoke on Trent and itās people. Patronisingā¦ā¦never Iād certainly love to experience again his contempt for people who travelled to Valencia. The āwholeā occasion was probably one of my best experiences of travelling to Stoke games. I also understand his rational for the team selection with the up and coming EPL matches. āIāll look back on his time here with (tempered) gratitudeā. š. Opinions eh š So not a "serious question" after all then |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 9, 2023 18:58:51 GMT
If you havenāt already can I recommend you watch/listen to the podcast. On one particular point about him being patronising of the supporters and the City, Iāll certainly disagree. However going back to the podcast youāll understand his background/upbringing and what his perceptions were of Stoke on Trent and itās people. Patronisingā¦ā¦never Iād certainly love to experience again his contempt for people who travelled to Valencia. The āwholeā occasion was probably one of my best experiences of travelling to Stoke games. I also understand his rational for the team selection with the up and coming EPL matches. āIāll look back on his time here with (tempered) gratitudeā. š. Opinions eh š So not a "serious question" after all then It was because no one has yet answered the original question which was āheā split the fans. All based on unfounded ātruthsā and opinions. IMHO I would āsuggestā the fans split the fans with, at times vile unnecessary personal name calling which Iāll bet youāve witnessed. |
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 9, 2023 23:30:54 GMT
I don't know how any stoke fan couldn't enjoy that podcast. He's the mesiah! Without TP there wouldn't have been any premier league football, no FA cup final or European adventure! Pains me to see the state that we are in now!!! I enjoyed parts of it but found some of it cringeworthy. He's not shy about citing examples of his man-management skills. |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 9, 2023 23:45:44 GMT
So not a "serious question" after all then It was because no one has yet answered the original question which was āheā split the fans. Ā All based on unfounded ātruthsā and opinions. IMHO I would āsuggestā the fans split the fans with, at times vile unnecessary personal name calling which Iāll bet youāve witnessed. Ā So the fans were split because many fans didnāt like him? This is called a circular argument. Mate you asked a "serious question" about how he split fansā opinion; I gave you a few reasons but all you want to do is deny and challenge and find fault in one side of them - which is fine, you've got your opinion and others have theirs. Almost like the fanbase is "split" about the whole issue. |
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Post by malisastokie on Feb 9, 2023 23:51:27 GMT
I liked the podcast because it was enlightening to hear his views on:
1. Signing playing who had ā history at other clubs ā
2. The extent he would go to , to keep players focused ( bollocking Ryan ).
3. The influence Kempsey had over him.
4.that owned up he had his favouriteās
The one thing I will say about Tony was he respected the area, the owners and the supporters of this football club and when did get moved on he left a legacyā¦.. A GREAT CULTURE.
I agree that sometimes the football dished up was not attractive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2023 0:58:42 GMT
A serious question. Ā How did āheā split the fans when he was here? Ā I canāt remember him saying or doing anything that could be viewed as being derogatory about the club, the family, the supporters or the City. I can remember arguments on this board about footballing matters which created a division, see one particular poster on this thread that is abusive to others who donāt agree with his train of thought. Ā See how many have enjoyed the podcast and wish him well It is really is a serious question!! He was a massive bullshitter, would never answer questions with a straight answer, particularly critical ones, was capable of being at best patronising to players and fans alike (good kiddy, these Stokie working class simpletons just like haaard word and running around, steak and chips) and at worst outright contemptuous (save up all your pennies for Valencia, the Beattie incident). His football was a tough watch for many and only tolerable if there was an element of something explosive e.g. Ric, Pennant, Rory's throw (it did for him in the end when none of those things were present). On the other hand he was the architect of something so unique and special I doubt England's top division will ever see the like of it again, got a team of relatively limited resources so well-drilled and solid they routinely wiped the floor with far more illustrious opponents, got us to our first ever FA Cup Final, was nothing but a gentleman to those who came to know him, stuck two fingers up at the snobs, became heavily invested in the club and the area and made big personal commitments/sacrifices to contribute to local charities. So there you go, never mind splitting "the fans", he's perfectly capable of splitting *one* fan. On balance I'm fond of him despite still holding some grudges, and I'll look back on his time here with (tempered) gratitude. That's a great assessment to be fair, other than for me, I can't hold any grudges against him anymore. Towards the end of his reign here I hated what we had become, his football had regressed so much that even when Rory was finished we still had players trying to replicate his throw, and even when Rory's throw had become ineffective we had Rory himself trying to wing it into the box from inside his own half. His tactics became a joke and we as a team had become predictable and a real bore to watch and we were definitely going to get relegated sooner rather than later if he had stayed. Having said all that, (and I'm definitely guilty of not appreciating it enough at the time in hindsight) I look back now and can only really remember the good times because he gave me some of the best Stoke City supporting moments of my life. That first season in the Premeier League will never be equalled in my lifetime, especially at home, and for that alone I find it impossible to hold any kind of grudge against a manager who gave me those memories, and that's without even mentioning the promotion season, the FA Cup, and the European games and the modern day Stoke City legends he signed for us. Regardless of people's personal opinion of the man himself or his footballing ethos, Tony Pulis IS a Stoke City legend and in my opinion he fully deserves that title. |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 10, 2023 1:44:49 GMT
He was a massive bullshitter, would never answer questions with a straight answer, particularly critical ones, was capable of being at best patronising to players and fans alike (good kiddy, these Stokie working class simpletons just like haaard word and running around, steak and chips) and at worst outright contemptuous (save up all your pennies for Valencia, the Beattie incident). His football was a tough watch for many and only tolerable if there was an element of something explosive e.g. Ric, Pennant, Rory's throw (it did for him in the end when none of those things were present). On the other hand he was the architect of something so unique and special I doubt England's top division will ever see the like of it again, got a team of relatively limited resources so well-drilled and solid they routinely wiped the floor with far more illustrious opponents, got us to our first ever FA Cup Final, was nothing but a gentleman to those who came to know him, stuck two fingers up at the snobs, became heavily invested in the club and the area and made big personal commitments/sacrifices to contribute to local charities. So there you go, never mind splitting "the fans", he's perfectly capable of splitting *one* fan. On balance I'm fond of him despite still holding some grudges, and I'll look back on his time here with (tempered) gratitude. That's a great assessment to be fair, other than for me, I can't hold any grudges against him anymore. Towards the end of his reign here I hated what we had become, his football had regressed so much that even when Rory was finished we still had players trying to replicate his throw, and even when Rory's throw had become ineffective we had Rory himself trying to wing it into the box from inside his own half. His tactics became a joke and we as a team had become predictable and a real bore to watch and we were definitely going to get relegated sooner rather than later if he had stayed. Having said all that, (and I'm definitely guilty of not appreciating it enough at the time in hindsight) I look back now and can only really remember the good times because he gave me some of the best Stoke City supporting moments of my life. That first season in the Premeier League will never be equalled in my lifetime, especially at home, and for that alone I find it impossible to hold any kind of grudge against a manager who gave me those memories, and that's without even mentioning the promotion season, the FA Cup, and the European games and the modern day Stoke City legends he signed for us. Regardless of people's personal opinion of the man himself or his footballing ethos, Tony Pulis IS a Stoke City legend and in my opinion he fully deserves that title. Yes grudges was probably the wrong phrase. It took me a good while to forgive and forget Valencia but I did, in the end. He even expressed some mild contrition about it himself at one point I think. Not that it remotely affected my enjoyment of those few days anyway š„³ |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 10, 2023 8:15:22 GMT
So not a "serious question" after all then It was because no one has yet answered the original question which was āheā split the fans. All based on unfounded ātruthsā and opinions. IMHO I would āsuggestā the fans split the fans with, at times vile unnecessary personal name calling which Iāll bet youāve witnessed. Why ask the question if you had no intention of being receptive to an answer other than your own? His 'rationale' for Valencia, where just as a reminder he didn't even fill the substitute's bench, is a damning indictment of our league performance that season. Why did a team who only the previous spring was playing its best football since the 70s need to essentially throw a cup game due, with a third of the season remaining, to relegation jitters? Especially since that same squad had lost nobody, had what was then the biggest single-window transfer budget in the club's history lavished on it in the summer, and yet won only four of its last 22 league games that season? I don't know how anyone can objectively quibble with Potterlog's post, even if they aren't your feelings about the man you can surely appreciate the duality stirs mixed feelings for others? |
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Post by st3mark on Feb 10, 2023 8:48:33 GMT
I miss having a manager where our gripes were about what starting line ups he picked during Eurpoean football matches.
Great times.
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