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Post by Gawa on Nov 18, 2024 12:13:20 GMT
More action on immigration.
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Post by Northy on Nov 18, 2024 15:04:12 GMT
More action on immigration. Or - more taxpayers money being used and not in the way we wanted it to be, like to improve our services |
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Post by Northy on Nov 18, 2024 15:18:54 GMT
This must make him the greatest prime minister in history? Why are we still poor though with terrible public services. I thought all we had to do was get rid of the immigrants and we'd all have our own yachts by the end of it. there's still about 100,000 living the high life in hotels though isn't there ? |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 18, 2024 16:38:14 GMT
This must make him the greatest prime minister in history? Why are we still poor though with terrible public services. I thought all we had to do was get rid of the immigrants and we'd all have our own yachts by the end of it. there's still about 100,000 living the high life in hotels though isn't there ? Depends what you call the high life doesn't it. I'm sure the hotel owners are living quite cushy at the moment. And the fact we don't have hotels filled with European or American refugees suggest most people don't see it as the high life. Or else surely an American would just destroy their passport and sail the channel to live the high life in the hilton. |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 18, 2024 17:07:30 GMT
This must make him the greatest prime minister in history? Why are we still poor though with terrible public services. I thought all we had to do was get rid of the immigrants and we'd all have our own yachts by the end of it. Actual action being taken rather than gimics that gave despots £00sM It's almost like the grown-ups have entered the room |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 18, 2024 17:12:40 GMT
This must make him the greatest prime minister in history? Why are we still poor though with terrible public services. I thought all we had to do was get rid of the immigrants and we'd all have our own yachts by the end of it. Actual action being taken rather than gimics that gave despots £00sM It's almost like the grown-ups have entered the room If GB News are reporting it favourably it has to mean something. Not a big fan of the man but got to give him his dues that he's making waves on immigration compared to what the tories did. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 18, 2024 18:06:48 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 18, 2024 18:21:41 GMT
This must make him the greatest prime minister in history? Why are we still poor though with terrible public services. I thought all we had to do was get rid of the immigrants and we'd all have our own yachts by the end of it. Actual action being taken rather than gimics that gave despots £00sM It's almost like the grown-ups have entered the room Until the human rights lawyers get involved |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 18, 2024 18:49:30 GMT
Actual action being taken rather than gimics that gave despots £00sM It's almost like the grown-ups have entered the room Until the human rights lawyers get involved If you operate within the Law, lawyers may get involved but unsuccessfully. The last Government tried to operate outside the Law which was obviously unsuccessful Did you not read the GB News Article where almost 10K failed Asylum Seekers were returned in record numbers since the Labour Administration took Office There is a Human Rights Lawyer involved |
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 18, 2024 18:51:14 GMT
Until the human rights lawyers get involved If you operate within the Law, lawyers may get involved but unsuccessfully. The last Government tried to operate outside the Law which was obviously unsuccessful Did you not read the GB News Article where almost 10K failed Asylum Seekers were returned in record numbers since the Labour Administration took Office Never seen or read a single item from GB news |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 18, 2024 18:56:11 GMT
If you operate within the Law, lawyers may get involved but unsuccessfully. The last Government tried to operate outside the Law which was obviously unsuccessful Did you not read the GB News Article where almost 10K failed Asylum Seekers were returned in record numbers since the Labour Administration took Office Never seen or read a single item from GB news Ah, so you just replied to a post about a News Article which you had no idea what you were replying to. Righty-ho |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 18, 2024 18:57:14 GMT
Never seen or read a single item from GB news Ah, so you just replied to a post about a News Article which you had no idea what you were replying to. Righty-ho Hey not everyone has to be an avid GB News reader like yourself you know. Some people have got morals😉 |
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 18, 2024 19:08:55 GMT
Never seen or read a single item from GB news Ah, so you just replied to a post about a News Article which you had no idea what you were replying to. Righty-ho No the reply is to a post that suggests grown ups have allegedly entered the room But I do find it strange your praising a government following plans from a Italian ex facist |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 18, 2024 19:44:24 GMT
Ah, so you just replied to a post about a News Article which you had no idea what you were replying to. Righty-ho No the reply is to a post that suggests grown ups have allegedly entered the room But I do find it strange your praising a government following plans from a Italian ex facist But you lacked the curiosity to glance upwards to see the headline which said 10K Failed Asylum Seekers had been deported since July Yet you were able to reply to a post about adults entering the room and instinctively thought.... Human Rights Lawyers, Remarkable. If someone has a potentially Legal good idea it would be churlish to dismiss it because of its source. That's where the last administration tied itself in knots by pursuing illegal methods. Churchill was a Racist but he too had some good ideas. |
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Post by Northy on Nov 19, 2024 8:42:23 GMT
there's still about 100,000 living the high life in hotels though isn't there ? Depends what you call the high life doesn't it. I'm sure the hotel owners are living quite cushy at the moment. And the fact we don't have hotels filled with European or American refugees suggest most people don't see it as the high life. Or else surely an American would just destroy their passport and sail the channel to live the high life in the hilton. I think you are looking at it from the wrong eyes, it's definitely the high life to them. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 19, 2024 9:38:34 GMT
Depends what you call the high life doesn't it. I'm sure the hotel owners are living quite cushy at the moment. And the fact we don't have hotels filled with European or American refugees suggest most people don't see it as the high life. Or else surely an American would just destroy their passport and sail the channel to live the high life in the hilton. I think you are looking at it from the wrong eyes, it's definitely the high life to them. If you have left a country where you are being persecuted and in imminent danger of being beaten up, imprisoned or worse then yes living in a rundown hotel in Margate definitely is the high life. And given our legally binding internatonal commitments its the least we can do. You are just peddling the old trope that asylum seekers are all economic migrants here to milk our social security system. They aren't - the majority of asylum seekers when their applications do get processed have a valid claim and go on to be economicaly active. Those that don't have a claim get deported. The huge costs are down to the fact that the system in place to deal with asylum applications is woefully under funded and under resourced. If it was properly funded the country would save millions in hotel bills and having people willing to but unable to work because it is illegal to work while their asylum claims are being processed. The huge expense associated with housing asylum seekers in hotels is entirely down to the last government's ineptitude. Rather than do deals with countries to handle applications at source (which is what the current government is doing) and put in efficient systems to process claims the Tories just spent millions on the doomed Rwanda plan in an attempt to fool people into thinking they were doing something about the issue and paid out millions to landlords and hotel owners to deal with the fallout of having done fuck all to actually deal with the issue on the ground. |
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Post by Northy on Nov 19, 2024 14:38:11 GMT
I think you are looking at it from the wrong eyes, it's definitely the high life to them. If you have left a country where you are being persecuted and in imminent danger of being beaten up, imprisoned or worse then yes living in a rundown hotel in Margate definitely is the high life. And given our legally binding internatonal commitments its the least we can do. You are just peddling the old trope that asylum seekers are all economic migrants here to milk our social security system. They aren't - the majority of asylum seekers when their applications do get processed have a valid claim and go on to be economicaly active. Those that don't have a claim get deported. The huge costs are down to the fact that the system in place to deal with asylum applications is woefully under funded and under resourced. If it was properly funded the country would save millions in hotel bills and having people willing to but unable to work because it is illegal to work while their asylum claims are being processed. The huge expense associated with housing asylum seekers in hotels is entirely down to the last government's ineptitude. Rather than do deals with countries to handle applications at source (which is what the current government is doing) and put in efficient systems to process claims the Tories just spent millions on the doomed Rwanda plan in an attempt to fool people into thinking they were doing something about the issue and paid out millions to landlords and hotel owners to deal with the fallout of having done fuck all to actually deal with the issue on the ground. and you are peddling the same old tripe about run down hotels and being persecuted, and Where did I say they are milking the security system? 3 recent hotels taken over are, the Cresta Court in Altrincham, Holiday Inn Northampton, Delta Marriot in Warwick, I know they are housed in the Novotel in Stevenage, none of these are run down, all very nice hotels. Aren't people celebrating that 10,000 have been returned since Labour took office? The Tories returned 12,000 Albanians didn't they ? It all adds up to £8 million a day it's costing us when public services are getting worse and worse. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 19, 2024 14:52:01 GMT
If they're all genuine cases and pass the test to be classified as asylum seekers where else are they actually going to be housed?
We can't house our own population as it is.
Oh look, developers like Abode will arrive like modern slum lords creating 'student' accomodation from defunct buildings (two local ex-police stations spring to mind) that then becomes bedsits for the likes of Clearsprings to rinse.
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Post by phileetin on Nov 19, 2024 16:02:45 GMT
lovely chap , welcome to the paedophile tolerant uk. will be free soon cos prisons are full of hate crime felons.
keir starmer dpp 2008-2013 ?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 19, 2024 16:33:17 GMT
If you have left a country where you are being persecuted and in imminent danger of being beaten up, imprisoned or worse then yes living in a rundown hotel in Margate definitely is the high life. And given our legally binding internatonal commitments its the least we can do. You are just peddling the old trope that asylum seekers are all economic migrants here to milk our social security system. They aren't - the majority of asylum seekers when their applications do get processed have a valid claim and go on to be economicaly active. Those that don't have a claim get deported. The huge costs are down to the fact that the system in place to deal with asylum applications is woefully under funded and under resourced. If it was properly funded the country would save millions in hotel bills and having people willing to but unable to work because it is illegal to work while their asylum claims are being processed. The huge expense associated with housing asylum seekers in hotels is entirely down to the last government's ineptitude. Rather than do deals with countries to handle applications at source (which is what the current government is doing) and put in efficient systems to process claims the Tories just spent millions on the doomed Rwanda plan in an attempt to fool people into thinking they were doing something about the issue and paid out millions to landlords and hotel owners to deal with the fallout of having done fuck all to actually deal with the issue on the ground. and you are peddling the same old tripe about run down hotels and being persecuted, and Where did I say they are milking the security system? 3 recent hotels taken over are, the Cresta Court in Altrincham, Holiday Inn Northampton, Delta Marriot in Warwick, I know they are housed in the Novotel in Stevenage, none of these are run down, all very nice hotels. Aren't people celebrating that 10,000 have been returned since Labour took office? The Tories returned 12,000 Albanians didn't they ? It all adds up to £8 million a day it's costing us when public services are getting worse and worse. It adds up to 8 million a day because the applications aren't being processed and the applicants can't work or, if not entitled to asylum, aren't being deported. Which bit of that don't you understand? In order to systematically deport asylum seekers we would either have to formally withdraw from the legally binding agreements we have signed up to or simply ignore them and break them. In either case we would be pyriahs on the international stage and in the latter case no-one in their right bind would enter an agreement with us as we will have shown we can't be trusted. So which is it? |
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Post by Northy on Nov 19, 2024 16:34:43 GMT
lovely chap , welcome to the paedophile tolerant uk. will be free soon cos prisons are full of hate crime felons. keir starmer dpp 2008-2013 ?
I hope the Air France cabin crew get to hear about what he has done. Mayela, of Oxford, was joined in the dock today by a French interpreter (more expense). He will also be barred from working with children. Why isn't he getting deported after he's served his time, we should be like Australia, one crime and you are out ? |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 19, 2024 17:28:01 GMT
lovely chap , welcome to the paedophile tolerant uk. will be free soon cos prisons are full of hate crime felons.
keir starmer dpp 2008-2013 ?
Your attempt to link Starmer with every crime ever committed in UK is puerile Do you ever read the Articles you link or do you never get beyond the headline His immigration status being nothing to do with the CPS but Home Office as no crime had been committed at that time. His Asylum Application was refused under Labour in 2004 but granted under appeal in 2010 under the Conservative Government, incompetent I'll grant you. |
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Post by sticky on Nov 19, 2024 19:03:06 GMT
lovely chap , welcome to the paedophile tolerant uk. will be free soon cos prisons are full of hate crime felons. keir starmer dpp 2008-2013 ?
I hope the Air France cabin crew get to hear about what he has done. Mayela, of Oxford, was joined in the dock today by a French interpreter (more expense). He will also be barred from working with children. Why isn't he getting deported after he's served his time, we should be like Australia, one crime and you are out ? Fucking scumbag, what a vile specimen. Peter Du Feu, defending said it was a one off… did he seriously say that! What a wanker |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 19, 2024 19:04:30 GMT
I hope the Air France cabin crew get to hear about what he has done. Mayela, of Oxford, was joined in the dock today by a French interpreter (more expense). He will also be barred from working with children. Why isn't he getting deported after he's served his time, we should be like Australia, one crime and you are out ? Fucking scumbag, what a vile specimen. Peter Du Feu, defending said it was a one off… did he seriously say that! What a wanker These cunts just need dropping into the middle of the Atlantic |
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Post by sticky on Nov 19, 2024 19:07:21 GMT
Fucking scumbag, what a vile specimen. Peter Du Feu, defending said it was a one off… did he seriously say that! What a wanker These cunts just need dropping into the middle of the Atlantic I find it hard to comprehend how people can represent filth like this in court, but I suppose someone has to. But to come out with that comment is fucking disgraceful |
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 20, 2024 7:51:54 GMT
If they're all genuine cases and pass the test to be classified as asylum seekers where else are they actually going to be housed? We can't house our own population as it is. Oh look, developers like Abode will arrive like modern slum lords creating 'student' accomodation from defunct buildings (two local ex-police stations spring to mind) that then becomes bedsits for the likes of Clearsprings to rinse. We have the same problem over here....in terms of housing: www.dutchnews.nl/2024/11/dutch-border-police-foiled-500-illegal-entries-by-road-this-year/Still 500 less is a start.......happy days ! |
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Post by phileetin on Nov 20, 2024 9:17:52 GMT
the way things are going in wales eg re dogs and holiday homes i thought this thread was the best fit. seems that life imprisonment is now only a minimum of 8 years .
i'm sure some of the keyboard terrorists got longer ?
kier starmer PM aug 2024 .... DPP 2008 -2013 |
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Post by elystokie on Nov 20, 2024 17:31:12 GMT
lovely chap , welcome to the paedophile tolerant uk. will be free soon cos prisons are full of hate crime felons. keir starmer dpp 2008-2013 ?
Your attempt to link Starmer with every crime ever committed in UK is puerile Do you ever read the Articles you link or do you never get beyond the headline His immigration status being nothing to do with the CPS but Home Office as no crime had been committed at that time. His Asylum Application was refused under Labour in 2004 but granted under appeal in 2010 under the Conservative Government, incompetent I'll grant you. You actually click on his links? 🤦 Whatever for? 🤔 You do know there's little to no chance of them containing anything factual? 😃 |
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Post by phileetin on Nov 21, 2024 9:55:56 GMT
ignorance is bliss
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 21, 2024 16:45:19 GMT
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