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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 30, 2024 12:41:52 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong, but the authorities at the time said they were not treating it as a terrorist incident. As far as I know, they still aren’t treating the murders as terrorism (presumably it doesn’t meet the definition and there isn’t evidence to show there were terrorist motivations). The new charges are terrorism offences. I am not sure what the duty is for the CPS/police/anyone else to released information to the public, but it is better to be cautious otherwise it could prejudice the case/make it harder to prosecute the perpetrator with the full force of evidence against him. I refuse to believe that updating the public is more important than justice being done. from the offset the aftermath became a bigger story than the stabbings which is tragic for the families involved Indeed ...  |
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Post by starkiller on Oct 30, 2024 12:45:34 GMT
What are you on about? He WASN'T an asylum seeker and he wasn't an immigrant It might turn out that he was a terrorist. I don't follow your logic linking the two? Oh actually, hang on ... There are quite a few on here who just want to blame someone who isn’t British for everything that goes wrong. I call them racist idiots but people can make their own minds up what they want to call them. And there are those who want to blame everything that goes wrong with immigration on the British. The fact remains, that there are very few countries outside of the western world, including most where immigrants to Britain come from, who would would accept the level of demographic change seen in the UK. Where the four biggest cities are now minority native. I guess all those countries and people must be racist too, then? |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 30, 2024 12:46:54 GMT
There are quite a few on here who just want to blame someone who isn’t British for everything that goes wrong. I call them racist idiots but people can make their own minds up what they want to call them. And there are those who want to blame everything that goes wrong with immigration on the British. The fact remains, that there are very few countries outside of the western world, including most where immigrants to Britain come from, who would would accept the level of demographic change seen in the UK. Where the four biggest cities are now minority native. I guess all those countries and people must be racist too, then? Runner up in the stupid post of the fucking day award |
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Post by starkiller on Oct 30, 2024 12:51:43 GMT
And there are those who want to blame everything that goes wrong with immigration on the British. The fact remains, that there are very few countries outside of the western world, including most where immigrants to Britain come from, who would would accept the level of demographic change seen in the UK. Where the four biggest cities are now minority native. I guess all those countries and people must be racist too, then? Runner up in the stupid post of the fucking day award Why, because you've just beaten it? |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 30, 2024 13:16:08 GMT
I'm defending the rule of law over mob justice motivated by prejudice. Oh right, Nothing anyone is on about then. Nice one. You and others are jumping to the conclusion that this man killed the three girls as a terrorist act and that it is linked to the fact that his parents were immigrants. That's mob justice motivated by prejudice. I pointed out that what should and is happening in irder to conform to the rule of law. The fact that you don't even understand the relevance of what I am saying speaks volumes. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 30, 2024 14:13:06 GMT
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 30, 2024 14:18:45 GMT
Atrocities motivated by Islam? So the atrocities committed by Anders Breivik were motivated by Christianity? |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 30, 2024 14:23:08 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 30, 2024 14:26:57 GMT
There are quite a few on here who just want to blame someone who isn’t British for everything that goes wrong. I call them racist idiots but people can make their own minds up what they want to call them. And there are those who want to blame everything that goes wrong with immigration on the British. The fact remains, that there are very few countries outside of the western world, including most where immigrants to Britain come from, who would would accept the level of demographic change seen in the UK. Where the four biggest cities are now minority native. I guess all those countries and people must be racist too, then? In the 2021 census, 40% of those living in London were foreign born. So 60% born in Britain. Your figures are well off. Anyway, what’s worse about foreigners than Brits? Why should we aspire to be anti immigrant because some other nations are? |
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Post by emretezzy on Oct 30, 2024 14:37:43 GMT
Oh right, Nothing anyone is on about then. Nice one. You and others are jumping to the conclusion that this man killed the three girls as a terrorist act and that it is linked to the fact that his parents were immigrants. That's mob justice motivated by prejudice. I pointed out that what should and is happening in irder to conform to the rule of law. The fact that you don't even understand the relevance of what I am saying speaks volumes. It's not that I don't understand you. Trust me I do. It's the way you speak about yourself as a judge and jury, prociding over people below you. 'Mob justice motivated by prejudice' get over-yourself. Hes literally one of the worst criminals this country has ever seen. There is not one ounce of Mob justice required. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 30, 2024 14:49:39 GMT
Such ridiculous hyperbolic bullshit on Twitter isn’t there. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2024 14:59:37 GMT
And there are those who want to blame everything that goes wrong with immigration on the British. The fact remains, that there are very few countries outside of the western world, including most where immigrants to Britain come from, who would would accept the level of demographic change seen in the UK. Where the four biggest cities are now minority native. I guess all those countries and people must be racist too, then? Runner up in the stupid post of the fucking day award Hold my beer |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 30, 2024 15:01:37 GMT
You and others are jumping to the conclusion that this man killed the three girls as a terrorist act and that it is linked to the fact that his parents were immigrants. That's mob justice motivated by prejudice. I pointed out that what should and is happening in irder to conform to the rule of law. The fact that you don't even understand the relevance of what I am saying speaks volumes. It's not that I don't understand you. Trust me I do. It's the way you speak about yourself as a judge and jury, prociding over people below you. 'Mob justice motivated by prejudice' get over-yourself. Hes literally one of the worst criminals this country has ever seen. There is not one ounce of Mob justice required. I am not acting as judge and jury. I'm saying the matter should be decided by a judge and jury based on the evidence. It's you who acting as judge and jury not me. You are putting two and two together and claiming what happened was a terrorist act. What this man did was appalling and if found guilty, whatever the motivation, should be punished accordingly. However it's you who is prejudging the outcome based on your assumptions and prejudices not me. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 30, 2024 23:45:42 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 31, 2024 3:00:29 GMT
It's not difficult is it? Unfortunately, the people who would benefit most from watching this video, won't. |
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Post by elystokie on Oct 31, 2024 3:03:30 GMT
You and others are jumping to the conclusion that this man killed the three girls as a terrorist act and that it is linked to the fact that his parents were immigrants. That's mob justice motivated by prejudice. I pointed out that what should and is happening in irder to conform to the rule of law. The fact that you don't even understand the relevance of what I am saying speaks volumes. It's not that I don't understand you. Trust me I do. It's the way you speak about yourself as a judge and jury, prociding over people below you. 'Mob justice motivated by prejudice' get over-yourself. Hes literally one of the worst criminals this country has ever seen. There is not one ounce of Mob justice required. Think I saw Prociding at a gig as a support band once 🤔 Always wondered what it meant 🤔 |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 31, 2024 3:05:53 GMT
It's not that I don't understand you. Trust me I do. It's the way you speak about yourself as a judge and jury, prociding over people below you. 'Mob justice motivated by prejudice' get over-yourself. Hes literally one of the worst criminals this country has ever seen. There is not one ounce of Mob justice required. Think I saw Prociding at a gig as a support band once 🤔 Always wondered what it meant 🤔 😂 |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 31, 2024 8:58:24 GMT
I encourage emretezzy to watch that as it covers lots of points we were discussing yesterday |
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Post by phileetin on Oct 31, 2024 11:04:02 GMT
Atrocities motivated by Islam? So the atrocities committed by Anders Breivik were motivated by Christianity?
I suppose it depends if he had ricin and an extreme version of St James's bible in his flat ? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 31, 2024 11:05:28 GMT
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Post by Gawa on Oct 31, 2024 11:08:01 GMT
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 31, 2024 12:04:49 GMT
He answered his own question within the first 7 seconds. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 31, 2024 12:06:26 GMT
Do share what exactly has been covered up and by who. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 31, 2024 12:11:06 GMT
He answered his own question within the first 7 seconds. I think some on here would prefer to see the accused walk free if it means they can accuse some mysterious figure somehow linked to Kier Starmer of lying and withholding information from them. For me, the public interest is in nailing the murderous bastard and not from sharing information about a live criminal investigation. The police and CPS have a duty to assist in doing that and I fully expect them to achieve that, regardless of the idiots crying of conspiracy! |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 31, 2024 12:18:08 GMT
He answered his own question within the first 7 seconds. I think some on here would prefer to see the accused walk free if it means they can accuse some mysterious figure somehow linked to Kier Starmer of lying and withholding information from them. For me, the public interest is in nailing the murderous bastard and not from sharing information about a live criminal investigation. The police and CPS have a duty to assist in doing that and I fully expect them to achieve that, regardless of the idiots crying of conspiracy! If you're the sort of person who wants to go and throw bricks at Police Officers because you think the perpetrator of a murder wasn't British, rather than see whomever the hell it was face justice through a fair trial then, yeah, you're always going to rely on a loss of law and order through the peddling of a conspiracy in order to validate your own opinion and actions. Same thing happens time and time again. People who think that way are objectively barnacles on the very bottom of the ship of life. Or fucktards if you prefer. |
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Post by knype on Oct 31, 2024 12:22:07 GMT
Do share what exactly has been covered up and by who. I think you will find Nick Ferrari may not be a member of this board |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 31, 2024 12:37:53 GMT
Do share what exactly has been covered up and by who. I think you will find Nick Ferrari may not be a member of this board I'll bet he is. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 31, 2024 12:38:21 GMT
Do share what exactly has been covered up and by who. I think you will find Nick Ferrari may not be a member of this board No, and in any event I expect he has more to worry about since he is no doubt now unemployed like all the rest of us since yesterday’s budget has caused mass unemployment and a run on the pound, eh Knype? |
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Post by knype on Oct 31, 2024 12:55:14 GMT
I think you will find Nick Ferrari may not be a member of this board No, and in any event I expect he has more to worry about since he is no doubt now unemployed like all the rest of us since yesterday’s budget has caused mass unemployment and a run on the pound, eh Knype? Who has said that? |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 31, 2024 12:59:03 GMT
Atrocities motivated by Islam? So the atrocities committed by Anders Breivik were motivated by Christianity? I suppose it depends if he had ricin and an extreme version of St James's bible in his flat ? How about an automatic weapon and a copy of Mein Kampf? |
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