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Post by callas12 on Oct 25, 2024 12:21:23 GMT
& have you seen the news bulletin put out out by British Transport Police in relation to this incident?! They stated that due to the 'passing' of Rhinannon-Skye-Whyte the offender has been charged with murder! 'Passing is something you'd say if someone's grandparent had died or natural causes at a grand old age! Someone who has been killed against their will has been exactly that, killed! Murdered! Slaughtered! ' 'Passing' ??! 🙄😬 |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 25, 2024 12:26:31 GMT
Boy, 16, arrested over sex attack on girl is fleeing Afghan put in military camp www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/boy-16-arrested-over-sex-9658598#ICID=Android_StokeSentinelNewApp_AppShareA little closer to home as well. & this one related to so called controlled immigration! Been kept very quiet & low key on the local & national news scene as well 🙄😬! Quite simply, people coming to live over here with totally different values, persuasions & perceptions to our own. These type of incidents are occurring on an almost daily basis & will continue to increase in volume, and sadly but quite predictably are never being properly shown or covered by the MSM! Evidence of almost daily incidents of sex attacks from immigrants, please. Wile you're at it, how many sex attacks are undertaken by indigenous Brits as a comparison? Believe me it's happening! Rarely reported on as the truth would scare people & highlight the issues mass immigration is causing. & even when it is reported on its all clouded over and watered down to prevent the truth being revealed & exposed. The Walsall Murder from Sunday night a prime example of this! |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 25, 2024 12:39:02 GMT
Evidence of almost daily incidents of sex attacks from immigrants, please. Wile you're at it, how many sex attacks are undertaken by indigenous Brits as a comparison? Believe me it's happening! Rarely reported on as the truth would scare people & highlight the issues mass immigration is causing. & even when it is reported on its all clouded over and watered down to prevent the truth being revealed & exposed. The Walsall Murder from Sunday night a prime example of this! What, so people have to "believe" you now? If something hasn't happened more, how can people report it more? |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 25, 2024 12:49:34 GMT
Believe me it's happening! Rarely reported on as the truth would scare people & highlight the issues mass immigration is causing. & even when it is reported on its all clouded over and watered down to prevent the truth being revealed & exposed. The Walsall Murder from Sunday night a prime example of this! What, so people have to "believe" you now? If something hasn't happened more, how can people report it more? Not at all. Believe me don't believe me, matters not to me. Being privy to what's really happening out there is an eye opener & whether people choose to accept what I say or choose to ignore it really doesn't fuss me. If you look hard enough you can see what's really happening under the surface, because in a lot of cases it's media blackout and not being reported on. Or live your life thinking everything's rosey and fine & hope you never become affected by it. Again matters not to me. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 25, 2024 12:52:08 GMT
What, so people have to "believe" you now? If something hasn't happened more, how can people report it more? Not at all. Believe me don't believe me, matters not to me. Being privy to what's really happening out there is an eye opener & whether people choose to accept what I say or choose to ignore it really doesn't fuss me. If you look hard enough you can see what's really happening under the surface, because in a lot of cases it's media blackout and not being reported on. Or live your life thinking everything's rosey and fine & hope you never become affected by it. Again matters not to me. What are you privy to and how? |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 25, 2024 13:02:24 GMT
Not at all. Believe me don't believe me, matters not to me. Being privy to what's really happening out there is an eye opener & whether people choose to accept what I say or choose to ignore it really doesn't fuss me. If you look hard enough you can see what's really happening under the surface, because in a lot of cases it's media blackout and not being reported on. Or live your life thinking everything's rosey and fine & hope you never become affected by it. Again matters not to me. What are you privy to and how? I'm not disclosing exact details on a social media forum. But suffice to say I've had hands on experience of such matters & its been happening for decades not just recent years. What has changed over the years is the volumes of immigration & the demographics. As I've mentioned on a previous thread, a number of people coming to the UK with different life experiences & outlooks to those of our own is always going to bring problems and issues with it. I know for example if I go to a gulf state that the rules & laws are different to those of our own and I know that I clearly know these before going and abide by said rules. Unfortunately alot of folk coming into the UK by whatever means either aren't aware or educated as to what is and isn't acceptable over here, or do so but choose to ignore it and carry on acting with perceived impunity as to what the consequences could be. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 25, 2024 13:06:20 GMT
What are you privy to and how? But suffice to say I've had hands on experience of such matters & its been happening for decades not just recent years. What has changed over the years is the volumes of immigration & the demographics. As I've mentioned on a previous thread, a number of people coming to the UK with different life experiences & outlooks to those of our own is always going to bring problems and issues with it. I know for example if I go to a gulf state that the rules & laws are different to those of our own and I know that I clearly know these before going and abide by said rules. Unfortunately alot of folk coming into the UK by whatever means either aren't aware or educated as to what is and isn't acceptable over here, or do so but choose to ignore it and carry on acting with perceived impunity as to what the consequences could be. As horrible as that sounds, do you feel your experiences could have included your own bias on the issue? How many sex attacks are conducted by indigenous Brits as a comparison against immigrants? |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 25, 2024 13:19:01 GMT
I'm not disclosing exact details on a social media forum. But suffice to say I've had hands on experience of such matters & its been happening for decades not just recent years. What has changed over the years is the volumes of immigration & the demographics. As I've mentioned on a previous thread, a number of people coming to the UK with different life experiences & outlooks to those of our own is always going to bring problems and issues with it. I know for example if I go to a gulf state that the rules & laws are different to those of our own and I know that I clearly know these before going and abide by said rules. Unfortunately alot of folk coming into the UK by whatever means either aren't aware or educated as to what is and isn't acceptable over here, or do so but choose to ignore it and carry on acting with perceived impunity as to what the consequences could be. As horrible as that sounds, do you feel your experiences could have included your own bias on the issue? How many sex attacks are conducted by indigenous Brits as a comparison against immigrants? Hmm, no honestly I don't think so. & that isn't denying that born and bred Brits aren't out there committing such acts because they clearly are. I think the difference is that indigenous Brits would more so than not go out with the mindset of carrying out such an act, or even if it was an opportune moment, would carry it out knowing it's a criminal act. But again it could be traced back to mental health issues as an example. I believe alot of the immigrant related cases are more cultural & upbringing related & in a way its second nature for them to act as they are & in some cases believe its OK for them to do this. It clearly isn't by our rules and laws but this doesn't prevent it from happening. I use the example of the gulf state as for us, walking down the street holding hands with your partner to us seems second nature. But abroad in certain countries it's forbidden. Even if aware of the rules how easy could it be to accidently hold your partners hand or even kiss them in public. It's not purposely breaking the rules, its what we're used to and could easily happen. Not advised none the less. & if caught you have to accept the consequences. & that isn't saying all immigrants behave this way, some may know the rules and limits that they can't do things, others may simply know this but abuse it. It isn't just acts of sexual violence/attacks, people coming into the UK may exhibit behaviours or actions that differ from our own either. These are more prominent & impactive due to their very nature & impacts. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 25, 2024 13:34:33 GMT
As horrible as that sounds, do you feel your experiences could have included your own bias on the issue? How many sex attacks are conducted by indigenous Brits as a comparison against immigrants? Hmm, no honestly I don't think so. & that isn't denying that born and bred Brits aren't out there committing such acts because they clearly are. I think the difference is that indigenous Brits would more so than not go out with the mindset of carrying out such an act, or even if it was an opportune moment, would carry it out knowing it's a criminal act. But again it could be traced back to mental health issues as an example. I believe alot of the immigrant related cases are more cultural & upbringing related & in a way its second nature for them to act as they are & in some cases believe its OK for them to do this. It clearly isn't by our rules and laws but this doesn't prevent it from happening. I use the example of the gulf state as for us, walking down the street holding hands with your partner to us seems second nature. But abroad in certain countries it's forbidden. Even if aware of the rules how easy could it be to accidently hold your partners hand or even kiss them in public. It's not purposely breaking the rules, its what we're used to and could easily happen. Not advised none the less. & if caught you have to accept the consequences. & that isn't saying all immigrants behave this way, some may know the rules and limits that they can't do things, others may simply know this but abuse it. It isn't just acts of sexual violence/attacks, people coming into the UK may exhibit behaviours or actions that differ from our own either. These are more prominent & impactive due to their very nature & impacts.Like French, German, American and Ukrainian immigrants you mean? |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 25, 2024 13:52:21 GMT
Hmm, no honestly I don't think so. & that isn't denying that born and bred Brits aren't out there committing such acts because they clearly are. I think the difference is that indigenous Brits would more so than not go out with the mindset of carrying out such an act, or even if it was an opportune moment, would carry it out knowing it's a criminal act. But again it could be traced back to mental health issues as an example. I believe alot of the immigrant related cases are more cultural & upbringing related & in a way its second nature for them to act as they are & in some cases believe its OK for them to do this. It clearly isn't by our rules and laws but this doesn't prevent it from happening. I use the example of the gulf state as for us, walking down the street holding hands with your partner to us seems second nature. But abroad in certain countries it's forbidden. Even if aware of the rules how easy could it be to accidently hold your partners hand or even kiss them in public. It's not purposely breaking the rules, its what we're used to and could easily happen. Not advised none the less. & if caught you have to accept the consequences. & that isn't saying all immigrants behave this way, some may know the rules and limits that they can't do things, others may simply know this but abuse it. It isn't just acts of sexual violence/attacks, people coming into the UK may exhibit behaviours or actions that differ from our own either. These are more prominent & impactive due to their very nature & impacts.Like French, German, American and Ukrainian immigrants you mean? Not specifically any particular country really. Again all comes down to what rules, laws and cultures and levels of acceptabilty or accountability people in other countries and even continents arrive in the UK with knowledge of. Something as simple as driving credentials can create issues. Some folk arrive in the UK, purchase a car and drive it around thinking they have insurance on it as given, as in some countries it's the vehicle that's insured not the person. Whole array of issues & differences when transferring residence from one country to another to factor in. |
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Post by starkiller on Oct 25, 2024 14:51:48 GMT
As he said, this should be the main story.
Unless, of course, these incidents are now so common place, it doesn't warrant mentioning.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 25, 2024 15:58:48 GMT
As he said, this should be the main story. Unless, of course, these incidents are now so common place, it doesn't warrant mentioning. Yet more insightful, unbiased objective journalism from a man banned from Instagram and Facebook for violating their policies on hate speech...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Joseph_Watson Do you ever actually check up on the credibility of your information sources or does our concept of keeping an open mind mean believing any old shit churned out by the algorithms driving your social media feed? |
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Post by starkiller on Oct 25, 2024 19:49:56 GMT
As he said, this should be the main story. Unless, of course, these incidents are now so common place, it doesn't warrant mentioning. Yet more insightful, unbiased objective journalism from a man banned from Instagram and Facebook for violating their policies on hate speech...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Joseph_Watson Do you ever actually check up on the credibility of your information sources or does our concept of keeping an open mind mean believing any old shit churned out by the algorithms driving your social media feed? I'm well aware it's opinion, it doesn't require your patronising. You've obviously consumed too much BBC verify, as all you do is caricature. Anyway, back to the news story, all made up is it? |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 25, 2024 20:18:53 GMT
Yet more insightful, unbiased objective journalism from a man banned from Instagram and Facebook for violating their policies on hate speech...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Joseph_Watson Do you ever actually check up on the credibility of your information sources or does our concept of keeping an open mind mean believing any old shit churned out by the algorithms driving your social media feed? I'm well aware it's opinion, it doesn't require your patronising. You've obviously consumed too much BBC verify, as all you do is caricature. Anyway, back to the news story, all made up is it? To my knowledge the news story is not made up. However the assertion that it should be the top news story is a line being peddaled by people with a racist, anti immigrant agenda. Like this absolute tool. And how come the alt right are so put out by verification and fact checking? Is it because the shit you are peddling doesn't stand up to scrutiny? You bang on about us "sheeple" being hoodwinked by the MSN yet you are utterly incapable of actually applying critical thought to the shit your alt media is feeding you. This bloke has been thrown off social media platforms for spreading hate. What exactly do you think his motivation is for putting out this video? What is his "narrative"? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 26, 2024 8:17:55 GMT
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 26, 2024 8:54:29 GMT
I'm well aware it's opinion, it doesn't require your patronising. You've obviously consumed too much BBC verify, as all you do is caricature. Anyway, back to the news story, all made up is it? To my knowledge the news story is not made up. However the assertion that it should be the top news story is a line being peddaled by people with a racist, anti immigrant agenda. Like this absolute tool. And how come the alt right are so put out by verification and fact checking? Is it because the shit you are peddling doesn't stand up to scrutiny? You bang on about us "sheeple" being hoodwinked by the MSN yet you are utterly incapable of actually applying critical thought to the shit your alt media is feeding you. This bloke has been thrown off social media platforms for spreading hate. What exactly do you think his motivation is for putting out this video? What is his "narrative"? The alt-right often views verification and fact-checking as tools used by mainstream media to discredit their narratives. They argue that these processes are biased and selectively applied to undermine their viewpoints. This scepticism is fuelled by a broader distrust of traditional media and institutions, which they believe are controlled by elites with opposing agendas |
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Post by elystokie on Oct 26, 2024 9:02:46 GMT
I'm well aware it's opinion, it doesn't require your patronising. You've obviously consumed too much BBC verify, as all you do is caricature. Anyway, back to the news story, all made up is it? To my knowledge the news story is not made up. However the assertion that it should be the top news story is a line being peddaled by people with a racist, anti immigrant agenda. Like this absolute tool. And how come the alt right are so put out by verification and fact checking? Is it because the shit you are peddling doesn't stand up to scrutiny? You bang on about us "sheeple" being hoodwinked by the MSN yet you are utterly incapable of actually applying critical thought to the shit your alt media is feeding you. This bloke has been thrown off social media platforms for spreading hate. What exactly do you think his motivation is for putting out this video? What is his "narrative"? It's quite the right wing trope to spout bollocks then complain about someone pointing it out 🤦 Then later complain about being 'cancelled' 🤔 The easier way would surely be to just stop lying. |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 26, 2024 9:08:04 GMT
Yet more insightful, unbiased objective journalism from a man banned from Instagram and Facebook for violating their policies on hate speech...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Joseph_Watson Do you ever actually check up on the credibility of your information sources or does our concept of keeping an open mind mean believing any old shit churned out by the algorithms driving your social media feed? I'm well aware it's opinion, it doesn't require your patronising. You've obviously consumed too much BBC verify, as all you do is caricature. Anyway, back to the news story, all made up is it? Most of it is, yes. He talks arse, and the people who like to watch him love to like to lick it. Paul Joseph Watson is known for his provocative views and outspoken commentary. He has a substantial following amongst those interested in conspiracy theories and incendiary statements. Watson has been banned from several major social media platforms for violating hate speech policies, as has been mentioned, and given his history and the nature of his content (including this) most audiences and fact-checkers do not consider him a credible news source. |
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Post by Northy on Oct 29, 2024 8:48:32 GMT
I'm not disclosing exact details on a social media forum. But suffice to say I've had hands on experience of such matters & its been happening for decades not just recent years. What has changed over the years is the volumes of immigration & the demographics. As I've mentioned on a previous thread, a number of people coming to the UK with different life experiences & outlooks to those of our own is always going to bring problems and issues with it. I know for example if I go to a gulf state that the rules & laws are different to those of our own and I know that I clearly know these before going and abide by said rules. Unfortunately alot of folk coming into the UK by whatever means either aren't aware or educated as to what is and isn't acceptable over here, or do so but choose to ignore it and carry on acting with perceived impunity as to what the consequences could be. As horrible as that sounds, do you feel your experiences could have included your own bias on the issue? How many sex attacks are conducted by indigenous Brits as a comparison against immigrants? We have enough issues with our own, issues from immigration just adds to it, why should an already over stretched police force have more things to try and solve ? |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 29, 2024 9:11:37 GMT
As horrible as that sounds, do you feel your experiences could have included your own bias on the issue? How many sex attacks are conducted by indigenous Brits as a comparison against immigrants? We have enough issues with our own, issues from immigration just adds to it, why should an already over stretched police force have more things to try and solve ? Rest assured. An average Immigrants’ net contribution to the British economy outweighs the average native. Whilst leave voters made sure we had fewer of the biggest contributors (EU migrants) and more of the lower contributors (non-EU migrants), both still on average contribute more than an average native. So that’s good news, we don’t have to completely shut borders to ensure our police don’t have any extra work! |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 29, 2024 9:12:41 GMT
To my knowledge the news story is not made up. However the assertion that it should be the top news story is a line being peddaled by people with a racist, anti immigrant agenda. Like this absolute tool. And how come the alt right are so put out by verification and fact checking? Is it because the shit you are peddling doesn't stand up to scrutiny? You bang on about us "sheeple" being hoodwinked by the MSN yet you are utterly incapable of actually applying critical thought to the shit your alt media is feeding you. This bloke has been thrown off social media platforms for spreading hate. What exactly do you think his motivation is for putting out this video? What is his "narrative"? It's quite the right wing trope to spout bollocks then complain about someone pointing it out 🤦 Then later complain about being 'cancelled' 🤔 The easier way would surely be to just stop lying. Healthy scepticism about information sources is a good thing and checking the credentials, reliability and motivation ofvan information source is all part and parcel of thinking for yourself. Taking anything at face value is just nieve. The conspiracy theory and alt right crowd are forever banging on about the sheeple being hoodwinked by the MSM but they just regurgitate any old crap from their magic news sources and expect everyone to take what is said at face value. They never look into the background of their information sources, assess their credibility or question their motivation - they behave exactly like the sheeple they hold in such contempt. And if anyone has the audacity to question the reliability of their information source they get all uppity and as youbsay bleat about cancel culture. At the end of the day the last thing these "free thinkers" want is to think. They just want to believe and not have their belief systems challenged. |
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Post by Northy on Oct 29, 2024 9:26:12 GMT
We have enough issues with our own, issues from immigration just adds to it, why should an already over stretched police force have more things to try and solve ? Rest assured. An average Immigrants’ net contribution to the British economy outweighs the average native. Whilst leave voters made sure we had fewer of the biggest contributors (EU migrants) and more of the lower contributors (non-EU migrants), both still on average contribute more than an average native. So that’s good news, we don’t have to completely shut borders to ensure our police don’t have any extra work! I think the discussion was probably more around the illegal migrants coming in, the legal immigrants will be coming in with work prospects already agreed, the illegal ones don't contribute at all whilst going through the asylum system do they? that's what we see is costing us now about £8 billion a year and lots of people see they are having services cut to pay for it. |
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Post by phileetin on Oct 29, 2024 9:32:57 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Oct 29, 2024 9:46:45 GMT
We have enough issues with our own, issues from immigration just adds to it, why should an already over stretched police force have more things to try and solve ? Rest assured. An average Immigrants’ net contribution to the British economy outweighs the average native. Whilst leave voters made sure we had fewer of the biggest contributors (EU migrants) and more of the lower contributors (non-EU migrants), both still on average contribute more than an average native. So that’s good news, we don’t have to completely shut borders to ensure our police don’t have any extra work! Prove that first statement. Quantify it. Its just absolute made up bollocks. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 29, 2024 9:57:27 GMT
Rest assured. An average Immigrants’ net contribution to the British economy outweighs the average native. Whilst leave voters made sure we had fewer of the biggest contributors (EU migrants) and more of the lower contributors (non-EU migrants), both still on average contribute more than an average native. So that’s good news, we don’t have to completely shut borders to ensure our police don’t have any extra work! Prove that first statement. Quantify it. Its just absolute made up bollocks. “Rest assured” |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 29, 2024 10:05:10 GMT
Rest assured. An average Immigrants’ net contribution to the British economy outweighs the average native. Whilst leave voters made sure we had fewer of the biggest contributors (EU migrants) and more of the lower contributors (non-EU migrants), both still on average contribute more than an average native. So that’s good news, we don’t have to completely shut borders to ensure our police don’t have any extra work! I think the discussion was probably more around the illegal migrants coming in, the legal immigrants will be coming in with work prospects already agreed, the illegal ones don't contribute at all whilst going through the asylum system do they? that's what we see is costing us now about £8 billion a year and lots of people see they are having services cut to pay for it. Yes. Our government is to blame for that. The last government didn’t process claims and did not house them adequately so then put them in hotels, and did not allow them to work and pay for themselves. Also leave voters voted to rip up our returns agreement with the EU, which makes it much harder for us to return them to France. Hopefully this new government will address some of the above. They have already started processing claims faster I believe. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 29, 2024 10:12:49 GMT
Rest assured. An average Immigrants’ net contribution to the British economy outweighs the average native. Whilst leave voters made sure we had fewer of the biggest contributors (EU migrants) and more of the lower contributors (non-EU migrants), both still on average contribute more than an average native. So that’s good news, we don’t have to completely shut borders to ensure our police don’t have any extra work! Prove that first statement. Quantify it. Its just absolute made up bollocks. Certainly. Here is a big report on it from a few days ago: migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-in-the-uk/I should have said EEA and non-EEA migrants, not EU. Scroll down to the table that is called: Static estimates of the fiscal effects of migrants in the UK (£ billions) it shows under EVERY study that tests all 3, EEA migrants are the best economically, then non-EEAmigrants, and Brits are last. Also look at the bit that is titled: Office for Budget Responsibility forecasts typically find that higher net migration reduces government borrowing Table 2 Estimated fiscal impact of migration policy changes, from government impact assessments is also interesting. Once again it confirms migration is good for the economy. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 29, 2024 10:14:27 GMT
Prove that first statement. Quantify it. Its just absolute made up bollocks. “Rest assured” Have a look at my post proving my point, and you can rest assured. |
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Post by Northy on Oct 29, 2024 11:14:18 GMT
I think the discussion was probably more around the illegal migrants coming in, the legal immigrants will be coming in with work prospects already agreed, the illegal ones don't contribute at all whilst going through the asylum system do they? that's what we see is costing us now about £8 billion a year and lots of people see they are having services cut to pay for it. Yes. Our government is to blame for that. The last government didn’t process claims and did not house them adequately so then put them in hotels, and did not allow them to work and pay for themselves. Also leave voters voted to rip up our returns agreement with the EU, which makes it much harder for us to return them to France. Hopefully this new government will address some of the above. They have already started processing claims faster I believe. Where are these magical empty houses to house them in supposed to be? We've got a housing crisis in the country we can't keep housing 300,000 mainly single uneducated or unqualified men every year can we, there's only so many just eat delivery drivers the fat lazy junk food eating lot need their shit food delivered to. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 29, 2024 11:33:35 GMT
Yes. Our government is to blame for that. The last government didn’t process claims and did not house them adequately so then put them in hotels, and did not allow them to work and pay for themselves. Also leave voters voted to rip up our returns agreement with the EU, which makes it much harder for us to return them to France. Hopefully this new government will address some of the above. They have already started processing claims faster I believe. Where are these magical empty houses to house them in supposed to be? We've got a housing crisis in the country we can't keep housing 300,000 mainly single uneducated or unqualified men every year can we, there's only so many just eat delivery drivers the fat lazy junk food eating lot need their shit food delivered to. A big processing centre should be built. We don’t need to house 300,000 single and uneducated men. We just need to have somewhere for those seeking asylum here to be housed. Even better, allow asylum claims to be sought from abroad, and then they can only come here once granted asylum, and all others can legitimately be rejected. It would also give us strong legal arguments to deport anyone who chooses not to apply from abroad before travelling here. That’s how to smash the gangs. Destroy their business model. Between 75-80% of those coming on small boats have their claims accepted when they are finally processed. None of them would have to risk their lives to travel if they could apply from abroad. Only those with no valid claim would travel, and so we could deport them far easier. |
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