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Nov 10, 2024 10:07:52 GMT
Post by elystokie on Nov 10, 2024 10:07:52 GMT
Here’s some facts  “There were 252,545 violent crime offences recorded by the Metropolitan Police and City of London Police Forces in London in 2023/24 an increase when compared with the previous reporting year. From a low of 186,488 violent crimes in 2015/16, violent crime has increased in almost every year. This reflects a pattern of increasing violent crime replicated across England and Wales as a whole, with a peak of 2.1 million offences reported in 2022/23.” www.statista.com/statistics/863276/violent-crime-in-london/#:~:text=There%20were%20252%2C545%20violent%20crime,increased%20in%20almost%20every%20year. Yes, they'll be the same ones that The Guardian report used, amongst others, and then added the relevant context, as the report said it had. No-one's stopping you staying safely cocooned in Cobham, if venturing into London terrifies you as much as it regularly appears to do. To be fair to you, Cobham, at least you're within touching distance of London, albeit a bit weirdly obsessed with its darker side. The posters who really make me laugh are those who are based in or near Stoke and profess to loathe the capital, but spend an unusual amount of time going on about it, while ignoring all the other places with proportionately greater crime issues! But then, those places don't have a left-leaning, Labour muslim in charge! Perhaps we'll start to see a similar level of interest in crime and stabbings in the West Midlands now that Andy Street has been replaced by a Labour mayor? Although he is white and not a muslim, so I doubt it. I believe Khan has achieved the maximum number of terms for a Mayor? Amazing for someone so shit 🤷 Let's see what's made of London when there's another Mayor in charge 🤔 I don't remember the same amount of scrutiny when the Liar King was in charge. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 10, 2024 10:21:52 GMT
Yes, they'll be the same ones that The Guardian report used, amongst others, and then added the relevant context, as the report said it had. No-one's stopping you staying safely cocooned in Cobham, if venturing into London terrifies you as much as it regularly appears to do. To be fair to you, Cobham, at least you're within touching distance of London, albeit a bit weirdly obsessed with its darker side. The posters who really make me laugh are those who are based in or near Stoke and profess to loathe the capital, but spend an unusual amount of time going on about it, while ignoring all the other places with proportionately greater crime issues! But then, those places don't have a left-leaning, Labour muslim in charge! Perhaps we'll start to see a similar level of interest in crime and stabbings in the West Midlands now that Andy Street has been replaced by a Labour mayor? Although he is white and not a muslim, so I doubt it. I believe Khan has achieved the maximum number of terms for a Mayor? Amazing for someone so shit 🤷 Let's see what's made of London when there's another Mayor in charge 🤔 I don't remember the same amount of scrutiny when the Liar King was in charge. Johnson’s big achievement as mayor was getting Ken Livingston’s bike idea known as “Boris Bikes”. Livingston helped get us the Olympics too, but Johnson managed to get a lot of the praise for it! Johnson is an exceptional opportunist. |
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Nov 10, 2024 13:50:29 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 10, 2024 13:50:29 GMT
Here’s some facts “There were 252,545 violent crime offences recorded by the Metropolitan Police and City of London Police Forces in London in 2023/24 an increase when compared with the previous reporting year. From a low of 186,488 violent crimes in 2015/16, violent crime has increased in almost every year. This reflects a pattern of increasing violent crime replicated across England and Wales as a whole, with a peak of 2.1 million offences reported in 2022/23.” www.statista.com/statistics/863276/violent-crime-in-london/#:~:text=There%20were%20252%2C545%20violent%20crime,increased%20in%20almost%20every%20year. Yes, they'll be the same ones that The Guardian report used, amongst others, and then added the relevant context, as the report said it had. No-one's stopping you staying safely cocooned in Cobham, if venturing into London terrifies you as much as it regularly appears to do. To be fair to you, Cobham, at least you're within touching distance of London, albeit a bit weirdly obsessed with its darker side. The posters who really make me laugh are those who are based in or near Stoke and profess to loathe the capital, but spend an unusual amount of time going on about it, while ignoring all the other places with proportionately greater crime issues! But then, those places don't have a left-leaning, Labour muslim in charge! Perhaps we'll start to see a similar level of interest in crime and stabbings in the West Midlands now that Andy Street has been replaced by a Labour mayor? Although he is white and not a muslim, so I doubt it. I didn’t start this thread but if you’re happy to start a West Mids one I’d be happy to contribute. In relation to me as I’ve said before I’ve lived and worked in London regularly over the years so know a fair amount about what is a great city and have friends that work both in the policing of it and also paramedics who work the area too. Where in London do you live? From the regular chats I have with those at the sharp end they certainly talk of it as not being a city on the up (far from it) but then I guess they see the worst side of it. In relation to me being “weirdly obsessed” will you be making the same comments to your Oatcake mates who have far bigger obsessions around Israel, Trump or the government? I’m not obsessed but I do have an interest in crime as I work with youngsters at risk of getting involved in it so I like to see prospective crime patterns and usually London leads the way in trends whether it’s targeting the suburbs with the likes of the 67 gangs cuckooing vulnerable people or targeting youngsters with the promise of a bright future that comes at a cost. In relation to Khan I think he’s an appaling character who wants to split communities by blaming everything on race. My dislike of him has zero to do with his colour or religion. It’s like saying someone’s a racist because they don’t like the Tories because of there last 2 leaders ethnicity. |
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Nov 10, 2024 14:00:03 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 10, 2024 14:00:03 GMT
Yes, they'll be the same ones that The Guardian report used, amongst others, and then added the relevant context, as the report said it had. No-one's stopping you staying safely cocooned in Cobham, if venturing into London terrifies you as much as it regularly appears to do. To be fair to you, Cobham, at least you're within touching distance of London, albeit a bit weirdly obsessed with its darker side. The posters who really make me laugh are those who are based in or near Stoke and profess to loathe the capital, but spend an unusual amount of time going on about it, while ignoring all the other places with proportionately greater crime issues! But then, those places don't have a left-leaning, Labour muslim in charge! Perhaps we'll start to see a similar level of interest in crime and stabbings in the West Midlands now that Andy Street has been replaced by a Labour mayor? Although he is white and not a muslim, so I doubt it. I didn’t start this thread but if you’re happy to start a West Mids one I’d be happy to contribute. In relation to me as I’ve said before I’ve lived and worked in London regularly over the years so know a fair amount about what is a great city and have friends that work both in the policing of it and also paramedics who work the area too. Where in London do you live? From the regular chats I have with those at the sharp end they certainly talk of it as not being a city on the up (far from it) but then I guess they see the worst side of it. In relation to me being “weirdly obsessed” will you be making the same comments to your Oatcake mates who have far bigger obsessions around Israel, Trump or the government? I’m not obsessed but I do have an interest in crime as I work with youngsters at risk of getting involved in it so I like to see prospective crime patterns and usually London leads the way in trends whether it’s targeting the suburbs with the likes of the 67 gangs cuckooing vulnerable people or targeting youngsters with the promise of a bright future that comes at a cost. In relation to Khan I think he’s an appaling character who wants to split communities by blaming everything on race. My dislike of him has zero to do with his colour or religion. It’s like saying someone’s a racist because they don’t like the Tories because of there last 2 leaders ethnicity. It was a city on the up. Then Brexit happened. |
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Nov 10, 2024 14:14:50 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 14:14:50 GMT
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Nov 10, 2024 15:20:08 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 10, 2024 15:20:08 GMT
It is. If London was the square mile alone it’s an amazing place. It isn’t. The crime areas are predominantly in the suburbs bar Westminster. I've seen you mention the 'square mile' in this context before Cobs. I think you might be getting confused a little. The square mile is actually pretty boring in the main, as very little happens there, unless you're a banker of course! You've got a handful of attractions like St. Paul's and the Tower but it's actually pretty much a ghost town after 6pm. |
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Nov 10, 2024 15:51:18 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 10, 2024 15:51:18 GMT
It is. If London was the square mile alone it’s an amazing place. It isn’t. The crime areas are predominantly in the suburbs bar Westminster. I've seen you mention the 'square mile' in this context before Cobs. I think you might be getting confused a little. The square mile is actually pretty boring in the main, as very little happens there, unless you're a banker of course! You've got a handful of attractions like St. Paul's and the Tower but it's actually pretty much a ghost town after 6pm. Perhaps I should have referred to it as the more touristy parts / the city. My mistake. |
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Nov 10, 2024 16:04:55 GMT
Post by wannabee on Nov 10, 2024 16:04:55 GMT
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Nov 10, 2024 16:16:56 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 16:16:56 GMT
Whatever it is it’s become the norm in Sadiq Khan’s shithole of a capital city |
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Nov 10, 2024 16:32:09 GMT
Post by wannabee on Nov 10, 2024 16:32:09 GMT
Whatever it is it’s become the norm in Sadiq Khan’s shithole of a capital city You obviously haven't been paying attention, West Midlands has the highest rate of knife crime in England and Wales www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2gz89d191o.ampThings may improve now Andy Street is no longer Mayor and a Labour lad has taken over. |
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Nov 10, 2024 17:08:48 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 17:08:48 GMT
Whatever it is it’s become the norm in Sadiq Khan’s shithole of a capital city You obviously haven't been paying attention, West Midlands has the highest rate of knife crime in England and Wales www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2gz89d191o.ampThings may improve now Andy Street is no longer Mayor and a Labour lad has taken over. Im talking about London not Birmingham 🤷♂️and you quote that link as if that makes it ok then🤔 |
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Post by elystokie on Nov 10, 2024 17:12:13 GMT
Whatever it is it’s become the norm in Sadiq Khan’s shithole of a capital city You obviously haven't been paying attention, West Midlands has the highest rate of knife crime in England and Wales www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2gz89d191o.ampThings may improve now Andy Street is no longer Mayor and a Labour lad has taken over. They won't improve significantly until what gangs are fighting over is taken out of their hands. No different to 1920's America, the only difference is the substance/s. |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 10, 2024 17:50:27 GMT
Im talking about London not Birmingham 🤷♂️and you quote that link as if that makes it ok then🤔 Knife Crime is too high in every region it just happens to be the worst in West Midlands London where 1 in 6 people in England live is the Capital and where Media is Headquartered is obviously going to receive more high profile publicity Alternatively you can ignore facts and substitute your own alternative version of facts |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 10, 2024 18:08:41 GMT
Im talking about London not Birmingham 🤷♂️and you quote that link as if that makes it ok then🤔 Knife Crime is too high in every region it just happens to be the worst in West Midlands London where 1 in 6 people in England live is the Capital and where Media is Headquartered is obviously going to receive more high profile publicity Alternatively you can ignore facts and substitute your own alternative version of facts This. I think it’s an issue in most big cities in the UK but London’s the capital and where most of the media focus their interest as you say. Like most capitals it tends to set the trends for the rest of the country. It’s an amazing city that in my opinion (not everyone’s) has a mayor who has little interest in protecting the young that live there instead choosing to grift and make divisive comments rather than look at the route cause around gangs, county lines and young black children killing other black children. I’m not saying other mayors aren’t the same but he’s the one that’s focused on most by the press so is the one most likely to receive praise or criticism. |
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Nov 10, 2024 18:31:09 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 10, 2024 18:31:09 GMT
Knife Crime is too high in every region it just happens to be the worst in West Midlands London where 1 in 6 people in England live is the Capital and where Media is Headquartered is obviously going to receive more high profile publicity Alternatively you can ignore facts and substitute your own alternative version of facts This. I think it’s an issue in most big cities in the UK but London’s the capital and where most of the media focus their interest as you say. Like most capitals it tends to set the trends for the rest of the country. Is that actually true though, since Khan took over, the increase in the rate of crime OUTSIDE of London, has almost doubled when compared to crime in the capital, in the same period? fullfact.org/crime/London-vs-england-2016-2020/www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-londonWhy do you think the people of London themselves have repeatedly voted for Khan in such large numbers Cobs? |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 10, 2024 18:37:41 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 18:42:06 GMT
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Nov 10, 2024 18:57:07 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 10, 2024 18:57:07 GMT
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Nov 10, 2024 18:59:17 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 18:59:17 GMT
I’m sure you can work that one out |
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Nov 10, 2024 19:01:53 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 10, 2024 19:01:53 GMT
I’m sure you can work that one out So nothing to do with Londoner's thinking he's doing a decent job then? They're actually happy to trade off increasing crime in return for having a brown mayor? |
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Nov 10, 2024 19:08:32 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 19:08:32 GMT
I’m sure you can work that one out So nothing to do with Londoner's thinking he's doing a decent job then? They're actually happy to trade off increasing crime in return for having a brown mayor? You’d have to ask them that one |
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Nov 10, 2024 19:14:12 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 10, 2024 19:14:12 GMT
So nothing to do with Londoner's thinking he's doing a decent job then? They're actually happy to trade off increasing crime in return for having a brown mayor? You’d have to ask them that one Isn't that what YOU'RE implying? |
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Nov 10, 2024 19:18:13 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 19:18:13 GMT
You’d have to ask them that one Isn't that what YOU'RE implying? Come on mate you know why the horrible little shit is Mayor as well as I do so I wont engaging in a pointless conversation with you on the matter😊 |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 10, 2024 19:20:10 GMT
I think it’s something like 14 percent of London actually vote for him which for me isn’t a great recommendation by its residents (so you could say it’s inflicted) add to that the appallingly bad opposition candidates and you’ve got your answer. Additionally like others have said the demographics in London are a factor too. In relation to the Guardian it’s to the left what the Mail is to the right so I’d take what both publications say with a pinch of salt as they both have a slant. In relation to crime. What sort of crime? This for me is the one I care about the most “In 2023/24 there were 116 homicide offences recorded in London, the most of any region of the United Kingdom during that time period. North West England, which includes the large city of Manchester had 71 homicides, and had the second-highest number of homicides. In the same reporting period, the constituent countries of Northern Ireland and Wales reported the fewest homicides, at 24 each.” That’s 1 murder every 3 days in the city of London. |
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Nov 10, 2024 19:26:04 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2024 19:26:04 GMT
Isn't that what YOU'RE implying? Come on mate you know why the horrible little shit is Mayor as well as I do so I wont engaging in a pointless conversation with you on the matter😊 Money for old rope. What does he actually do? |
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Nov 10, 2024 19:29:43 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 19:29:43 GMT
Come on mate you know why the horrible little shit is Mayor as well as I do so I wont engaging in a pointless conversation with you on the matter😊 Money for old rope. What does he actually do? Piss most folk off outside London I’d imagine and quite a few in London also. Makes me sick watching him lay a wreath today🤮🤮 |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 10, 2024 19:35:52 GMT
I think it’s something like 14 percent of London actually vote for him which for me isn’t a great recommendation by its residents (so you could say it’s inflicted) add to that the appallingly bad opposition candidates and you’ve got your answer. Additionally like others have said the demographics in London are a factor too. In relation to the Guardian it’s to the left what the Mail is to the right so I’d take what both publications say with a pinch of salt as they both have a slant. In relation to crime. What sort of crime? This for me is the one I care about the most “In 2023/24 there were 116 homicide offences recorded in London, the most of any region of the United Kingdom during that time period. North West England, which includes the large city of Manchester had 71 homicides, and had the second-highest number of homicides. In the same reporting period, the constituent countries of Northern Ireland and Wales reported the fewest homicides, at 24 each.” That’s 1 murder every 3 days in the city of London. And yet Full Fact are demonstrating that the rate of increase in crime in London has been far less than rest of the country since Kahn has been mayor (Recorded crime per person in London has increased by 18% over this period, less than the 31% increase across England overall). And you lot are trying to suggest that the reason Londoner's keep voting him back in has nothing to do with this but it's because the 'demographic' of London has changed. If that's how you lot want to frame it, then fine. |
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Nov 10, 2024 19:36:48 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 10, 2024 19:36:48 GMT
Money for old rope. What does he actually do? Piss most folk off outside London I’d imagine and quite a few in London also. Makes me sick watching him lay a wreath today🤮🤮 Why does him laying a wreath make you sick? |
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Nov 10, 2024 19:40:07 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 19:40:07 GMT
Piss most folk off outside London I’d imagine and quite a few in London also. Makes me sick watching him lay a wreath today🤮🤮 Why does him laying a wreath make you sick? Because in my opinion he hates this country |
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Nov 10, 2024 19:42:20 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 10, 2024 19:42:20 GMT
Why does him laying a wreath make you sick? Because in my opinion he hates this country Righto. |
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