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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 10, 2024 19:59:39 GMT
I think it’s something like 14 percent of London actually vote for him which for me isn’t a great recommendation by its residents (so you could say it’s inflicted) add to that the appallingly bad opposition candidates and you’ve got your answer. Additionally like others have said the demographics in London are a factor too. In relation to the Guardian it’s to the left what the Mail is to the right so I’d take what both publications say with a pinch of salt as they both have a slant. In relation to crime. What sort of crime? This for me is the one I care about the most “In 2023/24 there were 116 homicide offences recorded in London, the most of any region of the United Kingdom during that time period. North West England, which includes the large city of Manchester had 71 homicides, and had the second-highest number of homicides. In the same reporting period, the constituent countries of Northern Ireland and Wales reported the fewest homicides, at 24 each.” That’s 1 murder every 3 days in the city of London. And yet Full Fact are demonstrating that the rate of increase in crime in London has been far less than rest of the country since Kahn has been mayor (Recorded crime per person in London has increased by 18% over this period, less than the 31% increase across England overall). And you lot are trying to suggest that the reason Londoner's keep voting him back in has nothing to do with this but it's because the 'demographic' of London has changed. If that's how you lot want to frame it, then fine. Ok  |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 10, 2024 20:21:33 GMT
I think it’s something like 14 percent of London actually vote for him which for me isn’t a great recommendation by its residents (so you could say it’s inflicted) add to that the appallingly bad opposition candidates and you’ve got your answer. Additionally like others have said the demographics in London are a factor too. In relation to the Guardian it’s to the left what the Mail is to the right so I’d take what both publications say with a pinch of salt as they both have a slant. In relation to crime. What sort of crime? This for me is the one I care about the most “In 2023/24 there were 116 homicide offences recorded in London, the most of any region of the United Kingdom during that time period. North West England, which includes the large city of Manchester had 71 homicides, and had the second-highest number of homicides. In the same reporting period, the constituent countries of Northern Ireland and Wales reported the fewest homicides, at 24 each.” That’s 1 murder every 3 days in the city of London. Khan received 43.8% of Votes cast. The Turnout was 40.5% so he received 18% of the Electorate In each of the 3 Mayoral Elections Khan received more votes than Johnson in either of his victories. Khan also received a higher percentage of the vote in each Election than Johnson did in either of his two The Murder rate in London has been falling steadily, despite population increases, since reaching a high of 203 in 2003. In Johnson's first Mayoral year there were 155 Murders and as you say in Khan’s most recent there were 116 Murders. The population of Manchester one third of London and a Murder rate two thirds of London. That's quite shocking don't you think? Of course even one Murder is too many for the pain and suffering it causes to families but the facts don't support things getting worse, on the contrary. www.murdermap.co.uk/statistics/london-murder-statistics-historical/ |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 10, 2024 20:59:07 GMT
And yet Full Fact are demonstrating that the rate of increase in crime in London has been far less than rest of the country since Kahn has been mayor (Recorded crime per person in London has increased by 18% over this period, less than the 31% increase across England overall). And you lot are trying to suggest that the reason Londoner's keep voting him back in has nothing to do with this but it's because the 'demographic' of London has changed. If that's how you lot want to frame it, then fine. Ok I don't know the answer to this, but did the demographic on London change significantly between '08 and '16? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2024 21:12:46 GMT
Ok I don't know the answer to this, but did the demographic on London change significantly between '08 and '16? Google is your friend |
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Nov 10, 2024 21:15:49 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 10, 2024 21:15:49 GMT
I suspect you know full well, Paul. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2024 21:17:48 GMT
I suspect you know full well, Paul. Did I miss Limehouse Lizzy at the Rigger? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 10, 2024 21:18:03 GMT
Money for old rope. What does he actually do? Piss most folk off outside London I’d imagine and quite a few in London also. Makes me sick watching him lay a wreath today🤮🤮 Muslims made a significant contribution to the allied effort in WWII. You really should do your homework mate. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 10, 2024 21:19:19 GMT
I think it’s something like 14 percent of London actually vote for him which for me isn’t a great recommendation by its residents (so you could say it’s inflicted) add to that the appallingly bad opposition candidates and you’ve got your answer. Additionally like others have said the demographics in London are a factor too. In relation to the Guardian it’s to the left what the Mail is to the right so I’d take what both publications say with a pinch of salt as they both have a slant. In relation to crime. What sort of crime? This for me is the one I care about the most “In 2023/24 there were 116 homicide offences recorded in London, the most of any region of the United Kingdom during that time period. North West England, which includes the large city of Manchester had 71 homicides, and had the second-highest number of homicides. In the same reporting period, the constituent countries of Northern Ireland and Wales reported the fewest homicides, at 24 each.” That’s 1 murder every 3 days in the city of London. Khan received 43.8% of Votes cast. The Turnout was 40.5% so he received 18% of the Electorate In each of the 3 Mayoral Elections Khan received more votes than Johnson in either of his victories. Khan also received a higher percentage of the vote in each Election than Johnson did in either of his two The Murder rate in London has been falling steadily, despite population increases, since reaching a high of 203 in 2003. In Johnson's first Mayoral year there were 155 Murders and as you say in Khan’s most recent there were 116 Murders. The population of Manchester one third of London and a Murder rate two thirds of London. That's quite shocking don't you think? Of course even one Murder is too many for the pain and suffering it causes to families but the facts don't support things getting worse, on the contrary. www.murdermap.co.uk/statistics/london-murder-statistics-historical/The number of knife or sharp instrument offences recorded by the police in London rose to approximately 15,016 in 2023/24, compared with 12,786 in the previous year. This was the highest number of knife crime offences reported in London since 2019/20, when there were 15,928 offences. Between 2015/16 and 2019/20, knife crime in London increased yearly, with a particularly large increase occurring between 2016/16 and 2017/18. “Up by 2300” There were 34,465 robbery offences recorded by the police in London in 2023/24, compared with 24,958 in the previous reporting year, the peak for robbery offences in London during the provided time period “Up by 10000” I guess that’s figures for you always able to me manipulated. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 10, 2024 21:20:30 GMT
I suspect you know full well, Paul. Did I miss Limehouse Lizzy at the Rigger? Beg your pardon? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 21:22:29 GMT
Piss most folk off outside London I’d imagine and quite a few in London also. Makes me sick watching him lay a wreath today🤮🤮 Muslims made a significant contribution to the allied effort in WWII. You really should do your homework mate. Yes they did and fair play to every single one of them but that does nothing to change my feelings about Sadiq Khan |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2024 21:22:54 GMT
Did I miss Limehouse Lizzy at the Rigger? Beg your pardon? Thought they were on in November, it’s not on their tour dates now. Must have missed it |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 10, 2024 21:31:18 GMT
Thought they were on in November, it’s not on their tour dates now. Must have missed it I did tell you, Sugarmill last Saturday. |
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 10, 2024 21:32:06 GMT
I didn’t start this thread but if you’re happy to start a West Mids one I’d be happy to contribute. In relation to me as I’ve said before I’ve lived and worked in London regularly over the years so know a fair amount about what is a great city and have friends that work both in the policing of it and also paramedics who work the area too. Where in London do you live? From the regular chats I have with those at the sharp end they certainly talk of it as not being a city on the up (far from it) but then I guess they see the worst side of it. In relation to me being “weirdly obsessed” will you be making the same comments to your Oatcake mates who have far bigger obsessions around Israel, Trump or the government? I’m not obsessed but I do have an interest in crime as I work with youngsters at risk of getting involved in it so I like to see prospective crime patterns and usually London leads the way in trends whether it’s targeting the suburbs with the likes of the 67 gangs cuckooing vulnerable people or targeting youngsters with the promise of a bright future that comes at a cost. In relation to Khan I think he’s an appaling character who wants to split communities by blaming everything on race. My dislike of him has zero to do with his colour or religion. It’s like saying someone’s a racist because they don’t like the Tories because of there last 2 leaders ethnicity. It was a city on the up. Then Brexit happened. Yea right. London has just been rated the top city in the world for the second year running: www.transformmagazine.net/articles/2024/london-calling-english-capital-named-world-s-best-city-brand/London is still on the up with massive investment in rail, skyscrapers, and commercial centres. The new Elizabeth line is the busiest railway in the UK. The city is on track for its highest number of new skyscrapers this year. www.london.gov.uk/%20Mayor%20announces%20record-breaking%20%C2%A3100m%20investment%20deals%20for%20Londoners |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 10, 2024 21:32:11 GMT
Muslims made a significant contribution to the allied effort in WWII. You really should do your homework mate. Yes they did and fair play to every single one of them but that does nothing to change my feelings about Sadiq Khan Which of course have no basis in fact. Guess what that makes you mate? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2024 21:33:55 GMT
Thought they were on in November, it’s not on their tour dates now. Must have missed it I did tell you, Sugarmill last Saturday. Bollocks🤦🏻♂️ that’d be why then |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 21:34:25 GMT
Yes they did and fair play to every single one of them but that does nothing to change my feelings about Sadiq Khan Which of course have no basis in fact. Guess what that makes you mate? It makes me like millions of others that detest the horrible piece of shit if that’s ok with you Jezza🤷♂️ |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 10, 2024 21:36:42 GMT
I don't know the answer to this, but did the demographic on London change significantly between '08 and '16? Google is your friend I like to go direct to source, especially when said # source is the one citing it for reasons; and we both know Cobs knows his onions. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 10, 2024 21:46:45 GMT
Which of course have no basis in fact. Guess what that makes you mate? It makes me like millions of others that detest the horrible piece of shit if that’s ok with you Jezza🤷♂️ And yet the facts prove you wrong. Yet again. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2024 21:58:09 GMT
Yep that’s where all the money gets spent |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2024 22:01:55 GMT
It makes me like millions of others that detest the horrible piece of shit if that’s ok with you Jezza🤷♂️ And yet the facts prove you wrong. Yet again. What facts are they then🤔 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2024 22:06:19 GMT
And yet the facts prove you wrong. Yet again. What facts are they then🤔 Now that’s a tough question😉 |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 10, 2024 23:26:44 GMT
Khan received 43.8% of Votes cast. The Turnout was 40.5% so he received 18% of the Electorate In each of the 3 Mayoral Elections Khan received more votes than Johnson in either of his victories. Khan also received a higher percentage of the vote in each Election than Johnson did in either of his two The Murder rate in London has been falling steadily, despite population increases, since reaching a high of 203 in 2003. In Johnson's first Mayoral year there were 155 Murders and as you say in Khan’s most recent there were 116 Murders. The population of Manchester one third of London and a Murder rate two thirds of London. That's quite shocking don't you think? Of course even one Murder is too many for the pain and suffering it causes to families but the facts don't support things getting worse, on the contrary. www.murdermap.co.uk/statistics/london-murder-statistics-historical/The number of knife or sharp instrument offences recorded by the police in London rose to approximately 15,016 in 2023/24, compared with 12,786 in the previous year. This was the highest number of knife crime offences reported in London since 2019/20, when there were 15,928 offences. Between 2015/16 and 2019/20, knife crime in London increased yearly, with a particularly large increase occurring between 2016/16 and 2017/18. “Up by 2300” There were 34,465 robbery offences recorded by the police in London in 2023/24, compared with 24,958 in the previous reporting year, the peak for robbery offences in London during the provided time period “Up by 10000” I guess that’s figures for you always able to me manipulated. For goodness sake Cobs/Jeremy/Han/Chewbacca you just keep moving the goalposts. I don't think even the Police would try to manipulate the number of Murders which occur. The post of yours I replied to you said: "This for me is the one I care about the most"
“In 2023/24 there were 116 homicide offences recorded in London, the most of any region of the United Kingdom during that time period. North West England, which includes the large city of Manchester had 71 homicides"
When I prove conclusively that what you are saying is nonsense you decide something else is "This for me is the one I care about the most"I can't be arsed proving whichever crime statistic you think supports your unsupportable position, I and others have done so in the past, to no avail. If you wish to continue preaching about the perils of visiting Croydon or Barking, fill your boots. |
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Post by elystokie on Nov 11, 2024 1:46:11 GMT
I think it’s something like 14 percent of London actually vote for him which for me isn’t a great recommendation by its residents (so you could say it’s inflicted) add to that the appallingly bad opposition candidates and you’ve got your answer. Additionally like others have said the demographics in London are a factor too. In relation to the Guardian it’s to the left what the Mail is to the right so I’d take what both publications say with a pinch of salt as they both have a slant. In relation to crime. What sort of crime? This for me is the one I care about the most “In 2023/24 there were 116 homicide offences recorded in London, the most of any region of the United Kingdom during that time period. North West England, which includes the large city of Manchester had 71 homicides, and had the second-highest number of homicides. In the same reporting period, the constituent countries of Northern Ireland and Wales reported the fewest homicides, at 24 each.” That’s 1 murder every 3 days in the city of London. A lot more people take a lot more of the Mail with a lot more salt than the Guardian, as the Ofcom poll showed conclusively. "That’s 1 murder every 3 days in the city of London" Ten people, on average, will die today in the UK, same as yesterday the day before and tomorrow from.a drug overdose or poisoning. They'll die thanks to laws you fully support. Given that London accounts for around 10% of the population that's more or less 1 a day every day. On a side note, do you think the huge numbers of homicides in Chicago in 1920s America were down to it's Mayor/s of the time? How about New York? They had a similar explosion in homicides during alcohol prohibition, as did many American cities 🤔 |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 11, 2024 6:17:42 GMT
I think it’s something like 14 percent of London actually vote for him which for me isn’t a great recommendation by its residents (so you could say it’s inflicted) add to that the appallingly bad opposition candidates and you’ve got your answer. Additionally like others have said the demographics in London are a factor too. In relation to the Guardian it’s to the left what the Mail is to the right so I’d take what both publications say with a pinch of salt as they both have a slant. In relation to crime. What sort of crime? This for me is the one I care about the most “In 2023/24 there were 116 homicide offences recorded in London, the most of any region of the United Kingdom during that time period. North West England, which includes the large city of Manchester had 71 homicides, and had the second-highest number of homicides. In the same reporting period, the constituent countries of Northern Ireland and Wales reported the fewest homicides, at 24 each.” That’s 1 murder every 3 days in the city of London. A lot more people take a lot more of the Mail with a lot more salt than the Guardian, as the Ofcom poll showed conclusively. "That’s 1 murder every 3 days in the city of London" Ten people, on average, will die today in the UK, same as yesterday the day before and tomorrow from.a drug overdose or poisoning. They'll die thanks to laws you fully support. Given that London accounts for around 10% of the population that's more or less 1 a day every day. On a side note, do you think the huge numbers of homicides in Chicago in 1920s America were down to it's Mayor/s of the time? How about New York? They had a similar explosion in homicides during alcohol prohibition, as did many American cities 🤔 “A lot more people take a lot more of the Mail with a lot more salt than the Guardian, as the Ofcom poll showed conclusively.” They do on the left. It’s their bible which explains why Owen Jones writes for them . |
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Post by elystokie on Nov 11, 2024 6:26:16 GMT
A lot more people take a lot more of the Mail with a lot more salt than the Guardian, as the Ofcom poll showed conclusively. "That’s 1 murder every 3 days in the city of London" Ten people, on average, will die today in the UK, same as yesterday the day before and tomorrow from.a drug overdose or poisoning. They'll die thanks to laws you fully support. Given that London accounts for around 10% of the population that's more or less 1 a day every day. On a side note, do you think the huge numbers of homicides in Chicago in 1920s America were down to it's Mayor/s of the time? How about New York? They had a similar explosion in homicides during alcohol prohibition, as did many American cities 🤔 “A lot more people take a lot more of the Mail with a lot more salt than the Guardian, as the Ofcom poll showed conclusively.” They do on the left. It’s their bible which explains why Owen Jones writes for them . It was a cross sectional independent poll. Unless you're saying OfCom manipulated the figures? |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Nov 11, 2024 6:59:43 GMT
“A lot more people take a lot more of the Mail with a lot more salt than the Guardian, as the Ofcom poll showed conclusively.” They do on the left. It’s their bible which explains why Owen Jones writes for them . It was a cross sectional independent poll. Unless you're saying OfCom manipulated the figures? There’s a lot of left leaning people in the UK. That’s their go to publication. They love the Guardian because it tells them what they want to hear. You only have to see the links on here to see that it’s a source that they like to quote. It’s always the same posters that use it because it talks there language so to them it’s always going to tell the truth. You only have to read this article to see how blinkered and slanted their views are amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/16/first-edition-chris-kaba-met-policeDoesn’t age very well does it? They’re always going to tell a story from a very left wing perspective. If they’re independent and level in their views then I’m the pope. I wouldn’t take much notice of Ofcom when you look at some of the stuff they let the Beeb push out. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 11, 2024 8:33:50 GMT
It was a cross sectional independent poll. Unless you're saying OfCom manipulated the figures? There’s a lot of left leaning people in the UK. That’s their go to publication. They love the Guardian because it tells them what they want to hear. You only have to see the links on here to see that it’s a source that they like to quote. It’s always the same posters that use it because it talks there language so to them it’s always going to tell the truth. You only have to read this article to see how blinkered and slanted their views are amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/16/first-edition-chris-kaba-met-policeDoesn’t age very well does it? They’re always going to tell a story from a very left wing perspective. If they’re independent and level in their views then I’m the pope. I wouldn’t take much notice of Ofcom when you look at some of the stuff they let the Beeb push out. Anyone who thinks the Guardian is left wing has been in a coma for 20 years.,,,, |
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Post by elystokie on Nov 11, 2024 8:54:15 GMT
It was a cross sectional independent poll. Unless you're saying OfCom manipulated the figures? There’s a lot of left leaning people in the UK. That’s their go to publication. They love the Guardian because it tells them what they want to hear. You only have to see the links on here to see that it’s a source that they like to quote. It’s always the same posters that use it because it talks there language so to them it’s always going to tell the truth. You only have to read this article to see how blinkered and slanted their views are amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/16/first-edition-chris-kaba-met-policeDoesn’t age very well does it? They’re always going to tell a story from a very left wing perspective. If they’re independent and level in their views then I’m the pope. I wouldn’t take much notice of Ofcom when you look at some of the stuff they let the Beeb push out. So because you don't like what OfCom let the BBC (and let's not forget GBeebies in this 😉) transmit, the independent poll of the general public they carried out is null and void? 🤔 Brilliant 😂 |
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Post by Davef on Nov 11, 2024 10:03:13 GMT
That's just about the only tweet from Sky News in the last 24 hours that has comments disabled. Can only mean that the perp is another Welsh Christian with mental health issues. |
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