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May 10, 2024 8:23:15 GMT
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Post by elystokie on May 10, 2024 8:23:15 GMT
It's a puzzler alright, in fact Andy Street seems to get lauded by those very same people đ€ Ah well, I'm sure the 'UK Knife Lead' was equally as scathing of the mayor of the worst area in the country as he was of Khan recently đ€ Not seen many posts about Andy Street or even a thread tbh? Pretty sure there was a thread recently. |
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May 10, 2024 8:26:45 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 10, 2024 8:26:45 GMT
Funny how stats are misleading when theyâre quoted by other people. Your argument needs to be with ITV and Sky too not me. I take it youâll be sending the same snotty reply to Mickey the Maestro on the stabbings thread for quoting the same figures just for a bit of consistency  Iâm not a fan of stats but I know that for some on here they love them to prove a point where ever they come from as they donât believe lived experience and are dismissive of it. Knife crime is a concern for the whole country. It isnât confined to London by any means. I guess with the crime rates for all crime being lower in London than the average, the high knife crime rates in London jump out. Whereas in the West Midlands their total crime rate is high compared with average so knife crime being the highest in the country there does not stand out so much. Also, why does Sadiq Khan get so much blame for knife crime rates in London from non-Londoners, but Andy Street doesnât get blamed for the higher crime rate in the West Midlands by those same non-Londoners? I suspect Khan is being blamed by certain folk on here due to the clour of his skin. I can't recall the usual suspects raging as much when Johnson was in charge. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 10, 2024 8:31:02 GMT
Knife crime is a concern for the whole country. It isnât confined to London by any means. I guess with the crime rates for all crime being lower in London than the average, the high knife crime rates in London jump out. Whereas in the West Midlands their total crime rate is high compared with average so knife crime being the highest in the country there does not stand out so much. Also, why does Sadiq Khan get so much blame for knife crime rates in London from non-Londoners, but Andy Street doesnât get blamed for the higher crime rate in the West Midlands by those same non-Londoners? I suspect Khan is being blamed by certain folk on here due to the clour of his skin. I can't recall the usual suspects raging as much when Johnson was in charge. Bingo. Out comes the racist card. Fucking massive yawn đ„± |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 10, 2024 8:39:09 GMT
I suspect Khan is being blamed by certain folk on here due to the clour of his skin. I can't recall the usual suspects raging as much when Johnson was in charge. Bingo. Out comes the racist card. Fucking massive yawn đ„± Fair enough...it's my OPINION of course that's all. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 10, 2024 8:49:28 GMT
Don't politicise this thread as well... It got politicised the second it was created. This s thread is a right wing hissy fit about London. It is a perfect reflection of the dismal campaign run by Susan Hall in the mayoral election which Khan won easily. 1- The threads titled âLondonâ hence why most posts are about it. 2- Mr Khan is the crime commissioner as well as being mayor so he has to take some not all of the blame. 3 - The thread was opened after Johnson was mayor. 4 - This threads called London npt Khan. The posts are predominantly about the unnecessary losses of young lives and the concerns around the city / observations. Just because it upsets some doesnât mean people shouldnât have an opinion. 5 - Khan has got in for a third term but then didnât the Tories? Were they doing a good job? |
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May 10, 2024 8:49:46 GMT
Post by knype on May 10, 2024 8:49:46 GMT
Knife crime is a concern for the whole country. It isnât confined to London by any means. I guess with the crime rates for all crime being lower in London than the average, the high knife crime rates in London jump out. Whereas in the West Midlands their total crime rate is high compared with average so knife crime being the highest in the country there does not stand out so much. Also, why does Sadiq Khan get so much blame for knife crime rates in London from non-Londoners, but Andy Street doesnât get blamed for the higher crime rate in the West Midlands by those same non-Londoners? I suspect Khan is being blamed by certain folk on here due to the clour of his skin. I can't recall the usual suspects raging as much when Johnson was in charge. So what are you insinuating Huddy? |
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May 10, 2024 8:50:24 GMT
Post by knype on May 10, 2024 8:50:24 GMT
Bingo. Out comes the racist card. Fucking massive yawn đ„± Fair enough...it's my OPINION of course that's all. Which like everything else you spout is complete baloney! |
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Post by Eggybread on May 10, 2024 8:54:30 GMT
I suspect Khan is being blamed by certain folk on here due to the clour of his skin. I can't recall the usual suspects raging as much when Johnson was in charge. So what are you insinuating Huddy? He is insinuating that some people on here are racist and have an agenda.I wont insinuate,I will state that there are. |
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May 10, 2024 8:55:07 GMT
Post by prestwichpotter on May 10, 2024 8:55:07 GMT
We both know what's driving the knife crime and violence, only the government can do anything about that and sadly I don't see Labour being any more enlightened than the Tories about the issue. I would expect to see an increase in gun crime in the upcoming years, Khan (whoever was Mayor in all fairness) will doubtless get the rap for that too. I'd imagine the Mayor of 1920's Chicago got similar criticism, they wouldn't have been able to do anything either. And what is driving the knife crime ? ".....a combination of poverty, marginalisation, adverse childhood experiences (ACEs), trauma, fear and victimisation, including exploitation" (From HM own government 2023 research) Same as throughout history................. |
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May 10, 2024 8:55:50 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 10, 2024 8:55:50 GMT
I suspect Khan is being blamed by certain folk on here due to the clour of his skin. I can't recall the usual suspects raging as much when Johnson was in charge. So what are you insinuating Huddy? As usual you're too thick to understand eh sunshine? |
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May 10, 2024 8:57:39 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 10, 2024 8:57:39 GMT
And what is driving the knife crime ? ".....a combination of poverty, marginalisation, adverse childhood experiences (ACEs), trauma, fear and victimisation, including exploitation" (From HM own government 2023 research) Same as throughout history................. It is quite simply this...and coupled with the destruction and withdrawal of support services across the UK, never mind London. But no let's blame a bloke with brown skin instead eh? |
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May 10, 2024 8:58:19 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 10, 2024 8:58:19 GMT
So what are you insinuating Huddy? He is insinuating that some people on here are racist and have an agenda.I wont insinuate,I will state that there are. There is no insinuation...Knype is too thick to grasp it, that's all. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 10, 2024 9:10:10 GMT
So what are you insinuating Huddy? He is insinuating that some people on here are racist and have an agenda.I wont insinuate,I will state that there are. Letâs have some names then |
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May 10, 2024 9:22:15 GMT
Post by Eggybread on May 10, 2024 9:22:15 GMT
He is insinuating that some people on here are racist and have an agenda.I wont insinuate,I will state that there are. Letâs have some names then Im not going to go through and check whos said what,when etc.I dont live on here and dont know everyones names ,but you know and so does everyone else on here know that there are posters who are racist as there are people who are far left. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 10, 2024 9:36:53 GMT
He is insinuating that some people on here are racist and have an agenda.I wont insinuate,I will state that there are. Letâs have some names then I've seen you question immigration policy, so you're fucked mate you massive irredeemable racist. I'm pretty fucked too to be fair which is well annoying as my best mate is er er er a different colour to me đ |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 10, 2024 9:41:57 GMT
Letâs have some names then I've seen you question immigration policy, so you're fucked mate you massive irredeemable racist. I'm pretty fucked too to be fair which is well annoying as my best mate is er er er a different colour to me đ Fucking gammon |
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May 10, 2024 9:44:11 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 10, 2024 9:44:11 GMT
I've seen you question immigration policy, so you're fucked mate you massive irredeemable racist. I'm pretty fucked too to be fair which is well annoying as my best mate is er er er a different colour to me đ Fucking gammon With egg and chips. The full works me. I even slap the odd pineapple slice on if I'm feeling frisky.. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 10, 2024 9:55:44 GMT
With egg and chips. The full works me. I even slap the odd pineapple slice on if I'm feeling frisky.. Too salty for me these days is Gammon. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 10, 2024 10:17:01 GMT
With egg and chips. The full works me. I even slap the odd pineapple slice on if I'm feeling frisky.. Pineapple? Racist pervert |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 10, 2024 10:18:40 GMT
With egg and chips. The full works me. I even slap the odd pineapple slice on if I'm feeling frisky.. Too salty for me these days is Gammon. It's a rare treat for me nowadays to be fair. But now it's been shoved into my conscious I will no doubt end up picking one up at the shops laterđ oink oink đ· đ |
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May 10, 2024 10:18:47 GMT
Post by atillathehoneybee on May 10, 2024 10:18:47 GMT
I suspect Khan is being blamed by certain folk on here due to the clour of his skin. I can't recall the usual suspects raging as much when Johnson was in charge. Bingo. Out comes the racist card. Fucking massive yawn đ„± Careful Mickey. He has had people banned for far less |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 10, 2024 10:20:49 GMT
Bingo. Out comes the racist card. Fucking massive yawn đ„± Careful Mickey. He has had people banned for far less Its just differing opinions. We're all entitled to them đ its just mine are correct, in my opinion đ |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on May 10, 2024 10:23:08 GMT
Careful Mickey. He has had people banned for far less Its just differing opinions. We're all entitled to them đ its just mine are correct, in my opinion đ Opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one, but no one likes hearing other peoples. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2024 10:23:26 GMT
I've seen you question immigration policy, so you're fucked mate you massive irredeemable racist. I'm pretty fucked too to be fair which is well annoying as my best mate is er er er a different colour to me đ Fucking gammon My all-time favorite for a roast dinner. Itâs a shame that it doesnât really exist in Virginia. |
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May 10, 2024 10:25:32 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 10:25:32 GMT
It got politicised the second it was created. This s thread is a right wing hissy fit about London. It is a perfect reflection of the dismal campaign run by Susan Hall in the mayoral election which Khan won easily. 1- The threads titled âLondonâ hence why most posts are about it. 2- Mr Khan is the crime commissioner as well as being mayor so he has to take some not all of the blame. 3 - The thread was opened after Johnson was mayor. 4 - This threads called London npt Khan. The posts are predominantly about the unnecessary losses of young lives and the concerns around the city / observations. Just because it upsets some doesnât mean people shouldnât have an opinion. 5 - Khan has got in for a third term but then didnât the Tories? Were they doing a good job? I agree Khan has to take responsibility for crime in his city. It is lower than the national average overall. Well done Sadiq. Knife crime is high. But it is lower than when Johnson was mayor so Khan is an improvement in that respect but he needs to do everything he can to reduce it. However, I think more police officers and less deprivation would have a bigger impact on knife crime (and crime as a whole). Khan has some powers over police officers and there are 1800 more in London under his leadership, but ultimately it is the government who are responsible for budgets and for deprivation. So the Home Sec, the Treasury and the PM need to take more responsibility as they hold the power to actually reduce crime rates, across the whole of the country. Overall, London is one of the best cities in the world. The mayor has very limited impact on that overall assessment. Knife crime and crime at current levels has not diminished Londonâs status for being an amazing place to live or visit. |
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May 10, 2024 10:29:55 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 10, 2024 10:29:55 GMT
With egg and chips. The full works me. I even slap the odd pineapple slice on if I'm feeling frisky.. Pineapple? Racist pervert Rumbled đ |
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Post by oggyoggy on May 10, 2024 10:30:18 GMT
A perfectly valid opinion but that doesnât explain why he is held to a higher level of responsibility than other mayors. Not sure he is held to higher levels. But if he is its possibly because he's the mayor of one of the highest profile cities in the world. A bit like how the man utd or real madrid manager appears to be held to a higher standard than the Vale one. Dunno... Khan faces far more scrutiny than Street has over crime and knife crime despite London having far less crime overall per person. I donât see why a London mayor should be expected to be any better than the mayor of the West Midlands or anywhere else. I would expect each to work tirelessly and passionately for the people they represent, as should anyone in such a privileged public role. My experience is that mayors represent their citizens far better than government ministers do. It is a good reason for devolution. |
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May 10, 2024 10:36:21 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 10, 2024 10:36:21 GMT
Bingo. Out comes the racist card. Fucking massive yawn đ„± Careful Mickey. He has had people banned for far less Liar - I have not. |
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May 10, 2024 10:41:11 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 10, 2024 10:41:11 GMT
Not sure he is held to higher levels. But if he is its possibly because he's the mayor of one of the highest profile cities in the world. A bit like how the man utd or real madrid manager appears to be held to a higher standard than the Vale one. Dunno... Khan faces far more scrutiny than Street has over crime and knife crime despite London having far less crime overall per person. I donât see why a London mayor should be expected to be any better than the mayor of the West Midlands or anywhere else. I would expect each to work tirelessly and passionately for the people they represent, as should anyone in such a privileged public role. My experience is that mayors represent their citizens far better than government ministers do. It is a good reason for devolution. He does. But I mused earlier that maybe its because he's the mayor of London. Probably the most famous city on the planet. And for good reason as I agree its something we should be proud of because it is an amazing place and a window to the world of what we're all about. So I guess yeah he's coming in for extra shit. Like Ten Hag at man utd. Massive club with massive expectations. My criticism of him is about me not liking the cut of his gib. He's arrogant. Always on the defensive and always blaming something or someone else. And I find him all to willing to be divisive. That for me is not a good mayor. For clarification my criticism has nowt to do with what shade of whatever he is. I couldn't care any less about that despite what others on here may suspect. And I know by even saying that it'll have some labelling me as a casual racist. Really I'm not. But hey ho.. |
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May 10, 2024 11:47:54 GMT
Post by wannabee on May 10, 2024 11:47:54 GMT
A perfectly valid opinion but that doesnât explain why he is held to a higher level of responsibility than other mayors. Not sure he is held to higher levels. But if he is its possibly because he's the mayor of one of the highest profile cities in the world. A bit like how the man utd or real madrid manager appears to be held to a higher standard than the Vale one. Dunno... I take your point about higher profile but isn't that all the more reason to report the facts fairly and accurately It is not helped when people like 3P Lee, I now call him that as inflation is coming down and in honour of the 3 Political Party's he has been a member of, is given blanket Media Coverage when he makes a Racist claim that Khan is being controlled by Islamists. And someone urges the thread not to become Political and questioned why Racism had to be mentioned đ€Ł You are less likely to become a victim of a crime in London than Nationally which is of little consolation to you if you become a victim or live in an area with a high crime rate. Antisocial Behaviour rates are amongst the lowest in the Country. Murder Rates are falling and well below when Johnson was Mayor and many other parts of UK. Knife Crime is a problem but below Pre-pandemic Rates and many other parts of the Country It's a mixed bag and more needs to be done but it is at least unhelpful to distort the facts www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-london |
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