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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 2, 2024 12:29:43 GMT
How about the ONS? According the Crime Survey for England and Wales, someone is actually less likely to be a victim of crime in London than they are across the country as a whole. In the capital, 14.9% of people experienced a crime either to their person or their household in the year ending September 2023, compared with 15.7% nationally. London has the third lowest anti social behaviour levels in the country. The murder rate is dropping and is lower than when johnson was mayor. The rate – roughly equivalent to 12 for every 1 million people – is far from the worst police area for homicides when compared with population. Bedfordshire, Cleveland, Merseyside, West Mercia, South Yorkshire, Humberside and Northumbria all ranked higher in 2023-24, according to ONS figures. Knife crime is high but lower than Cleveland and West Midlands. For gun crime it is behind Gloucestershire, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Northamptonshire, West Yorkshire, the West Midlands, South Yorkshire and Cleveland. It has fallen significantly over the past decade. amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-londonLondon is the best city in the world. And I have been to lots.The thing is, it always has been. I go there once every week or maximum every other and in Central London its honestly the best there is. I witnessed a guy having his phone stolen last week by them scooter gangs. There is zero deterrent in London currently and I'd love to know them stats by postcode. For instance I'd agree W1-3 is extremely safe but there is without doubt some areas you just wouldn't go to now. I live in South London and work in West London, Ladbroke Grove/Notting Hill. I can categorically say there is not one single area of London that I would think twice about going to because I feel unsafe. Most of us are probably from Stoke and I can only imagine the reason I read stuff like that on this thread is because we're not used to every other area being a bit more like Shelton  which is fine and I get it but they're absolutely not unsafe. For what it's worth, I haven't voted today and won't be. I am a staunch Labour supporter whether it be Corbyn or Starmer, hate the Tories, hate the Greens in fact. I would never vote for Sadiq Khan though. |
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Post by elystokie on May 2, 2024 12:31:01 GMT
That'll change when they find it harder and harder to get a sparky, gas fitter, builder, roofer or dyno rod to come and clear their shit up. You'll see... I suspect price will be the overriding factor, if they don't mind paying extra to tradesmen for the eventual prospect of cleaner air then I doubt much will change personally but as you say, we'll see. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 2, 2024 12:46:33 GMT
London is the best city in the world. And I have been to lots.The thing is, it always has been. I go there once every week or maximum every other and in Central London its honestly the best there is. I witnessed a guy having his phone stolen last week by them scooter gangs. There is zero deterrent in London currently and I'd love to know them stats by postcode. For instance I'd agree W1-3 is extremely safe but there is without doubt some areas you just wouldn't go to now. I live in South London and work in West London, Ladbroke Grove/Notting Hill. I can categorically say there is not one single area of London that I would think twice about going to because I feel unsafe. Most of us are probably from Stoke and I can only imagine the reason I read stuff like that on this thread is because we're not used to every other area being a bit more like Shelton which is fine and I get it but they're absolutely not unsafe. For what it's worth, I haven't voted today and won't be. I am a staunch Labour supporter whether it be Corbyn or Starmer, hate the Tories, hate the Greens in fact. I would never vote for Sadiq Khan though. Spot on mate. If my memory serves me right, we actually lived extremely close to each other (albeit at different times) on the edge of Tulse Hill/Herne Hill. I absolutely love Ladbroke Grove, the last company I worked for was based just off it. I have always been a staunch Labour voter too but I'm no fan of Khan either. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 2, 2024 13:49:42 GMT
That'll change when they find it harder and harder to get a sparky, gas fitter, builder, roofer or dyno rod to come and clear their shit up. You'll see... Surely most Londoners are bright enough to have considered this as a possibility though? Not when half of London keeps voting the prick in. Doesn't bode well on the intelligence stakes in my opinion. Then again the choice is shitty. Just like the upcoming GE. I don't like Khan and nobody will convince me otherwise. He's a slimy, duplicitous, responsibility avoiding twat.. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 2, 2024 14:11:34 GMT
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 2, 2024 14:40:45 GMT
I live in South London and work in West London, Ladbroke Grove/Notting Hill. I can categorically say there is not one single area of London that I would think twice about going to because I feel unsafe. Most of us are probably from Stoke and I can only imagine the reason I read stuff like that on this thread is because we're not used to every other area being a bit more like Shelton which is fine and I get it but they're absolutely not unsafe. For what it's worth, I haven't voted today and won't be. I am a staunch Labour supporter whether it be Corbyn or Starmer, hate the Tories, hate the Greens in fact. I would never vote for Sadiq Khan though. Spot on mate. If my memory serves me right, we actually lived extremely close to each other (albeit at different times) on the edge of Tulse Hill/Herne Hill. I absolutely love Ladbroke Grove, the last company I worked for was based just off it. I have always been a staunch Labour voter too but I'm no fan of Khan either. Yes I'm still in the middle of Norwood Road Paul, renting of course but it's still a great place to live. What was the company in Ladbroke Grove if you don't mind me asking? |
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Post by wannabee on May 2, 2024 14:41:51 GMT
I suppose as Grimes isn't a proper Journalist he's not subject to the normal impartiality restrictions on Election Days. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2024 14:43:45 GMT
Darren Grimes. Darren "craftywank" fucking Grimes...  |
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May 2, 2024 14:45:19 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 2, 2024 14:45:19 GMT
Spot on mate. If my memory serves me right, we actually lived extremely close to each other (albeit at different times) on the edge of Tulse Hill/Herne Hill. I absolutely love Ladbroke Grove, the last company I worked for was based just off it. I have always been a staunch Labour voter too but I'm no fan of Khan either. Yes I'm still in the middle of Norwood Road Paul, renting of course but it's still a great place to live. What was the company in Ladbroke Grove if you don't mind me asking? Amato Music Distribution, the original company, long gone now I'm afraid mate. |
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Post by spitthedog on May 2, 2024 15:10:26 GMT
Someone who doesn't know anything about London, talking to people who don't know anything about London. Great combination! |
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Post by elystokie on May 2, 2024 15:14:56 GMT
'Truths' from Donald Trump 😂😂😂🤦 |
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Post by oggyoggy on May 2, 2024 18:17:32 GMT
Some areas of every city are unsafe, London is no exception to that rule. But it is not true to say London is some hotspot of crime above everywhere else in the UK. The stats don’t show that. People do debate and back them up though, thats the point, some people just don’t want to listen, and have this attitude of knowing better all the time. It just becomes a pointless exercise of flinging stats to suit whatever point you’re trying to make (both sides) You provided a reasonable answer to me yesterday, but again that’s just an opinion. And I amongst others have my opinion…I don’t see how certain posters “opinions” are supposed to be treated as facts, where other posters opinions aren’t. You openly admit the media have an agenda on London, to me that sounds ridiculous, and if it was reversed so would you There is no question there is an agenda! The last two labour leaders have been criticised for being part of the Metropolitan Elite from Islington. Sunak raises it, Johnson raised it, May raised it. The media raise it. Lefty London lawyers is a commonly used phrase. Are you seriously saying there isn’t a negative view in the rest of the country about so called London elites? But turning back to the facts, crime as a whole in London generally isn’t that high compared with the rest of the country. Knife crime here is high, but not as high as Cleveland or the West Midlands. |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on May 2, 2024 18:42:53 GMT
I suppose as Grimes isn't a proper Journalist he's not subject to the normal impartiality restrictions on Election Days. I actually think what Trump says here is brutally honest. And as always being patriotic equates to being racist. |
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Post by knype on May 2, 2024 18:54:46 GMT
'Truths' from Donald Trump 😂😂😂🤦 He's not wrong |
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May 2, 2024 19:18:23 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on May 2, 2024 19:18:23 GMT
Stats in style
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 2, 2024 19:26:07 GMT
London is the best city in the world. And I have been to lots.The thing is, it always has been. I go there once every week or maximum every other and in Central London its honestly the best there is. I witnessed a guy having his phone stolen last week by them scooter gangs. There is zero deterrent in London currently and I'd love to know them stats by postcode. For instance I'd agree W1-3 is extremely safe but there is without doubt some areas you just wouldn't go to now. I live in South London and work in West London, Ladbroke Grove/Notting Hill. I can categorically say there is not one single area of London that I would think twice about going to because I feel unsafe. Most of us are probably from Stoke and I can only imagine the reason I read stuff like that on this thread is because we're not used to every other area being a bit more like Shelton which is fine and I get it but they're absolutely not unsafe. For what it's worth, I haven't voted today and won't be. I am a staunch Labour supporter whether it be Corbyn or Starmer, hate the Tories, hate the Greens in fact. I would never vote for Sadiq Khan though. I was a police officer at Notting Hill, must have walked the area in uniform on my own more times than I care to remember. 1979 to the mid 80's, it was the second knife experience/attack that made my decision that bit easier to leave the job. Very diverse part of town to work in. I lived in a police section house just off Oxford Street/Marble Arch and thoroughly enjoyed my time in London (apart from the obvious) but having not been back for a few years now I'm not sure I'd recognise some of it now. |
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Post by elystokie on May 2, 2024 19:46:02 GMT
Interesting. If my maths are correct, even in the highest incident area the percentage chance of a stabbing is 0.0018 of one percent, seems an unlikely event to me, even in the West Midlands. From all the furore I read on here and in the media I'd have expected it to be much higher than that if I'm honest. |
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Post by mrnovember on May 2, 2024 19:57:19 GMT
Imagine working for the Cleveland Tourism Board. Hardest job in the world. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 2, 2024 21:12:50 GMT
I'm not sure this years Eurovision entry cuts the mustard............ |
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Post by deeside2 on May 2, 2024 22:03:32 GMT
I'm not sure this years Eurovision entry cuts the mustard............ It's most probably better than our actual entry (which I haven't heard) ! |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 2, 2024 22:09:10 GMT
I'm not sure this years Eurovision entry cuts the mustard............ It's most probably better than our actual entry (which I haven't heard) ! Just for you mate😊 |
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Post by deeside2 on May 2, 2024 22:11:46 GMT
It's most probably better than our actual entry (which I haven't heard) ! Just for you mate😊 Thanks ! Nil points incoming ! |
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Post by Northy on May 3, 2024 7:48:51 GMT
It's most probably better than our actual entry (which I haven't heard) ! Just for you mate😊 Thank fook I'm working away next weekend and wont have to hear any of it. |
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Post by misterj on May 3, 2024 13:41:45 GMT
My daughter has lived in London about 7 years. In that time she has seen one fight and one mobile phone being stolen. When she was a student living at home, on every single night out in Hanley or Newcastle she saw at least one fight.
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Post by mtrstudent on May 3, 2024 14:24:08 GMT
My daughter has lived in London about 7 years. In that time she has seen one fight and one mobile phone being stolen. When she was a student living at home, on every single night out in Hanley or Newcastle she saw at least one fight. I saw a drunken fight in London once, think it was late on Paddy's day. One of the lads pulled off his belt and whipped the other guy in the eyes. None of my mates who've lived there years have had anything done to them though. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 3, 2024 16:35:14 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 4, 2024 9:36:47 GMT
Very powerful stuff from the knife lead for the U.K.
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Post by elystokie on May 4, 2024 11:22:45 GMT
Very powerful stuff from the knife lead for the U.K. Who made him 'knife lead'? Not that knife crime isn't obviously very important but there's something that kills 20 times more people every single year in this country that nobody sems to want to talk about, especially politicians 🤷 |
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Post by louis on May 4, 2024 11:35:04 GMT
My daughter has lived in London about 7 years. In that time she has seen one fight and one mobile phone being stolen. When she was a student living at home, on every single night out in Hanley or Newcastle she saw at least one fight. |
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Post by louis on May 4, 2024 11:36:47 GMT
My son has lived in Camberwell for about 7 years. It has rough bits but I have been many times never seen any trouble. It definitely feels safer than a night out in Hanley.
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which is fine and I get it but they're absolutely not unsafe. 
