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Post by oggyoggy on May 2, 2024 5:49:51 GMT
Jeez, what a truly bizarre forum this has turned in to, people posting stuff and then steadfastly refusing to explain what they meant by the post, never mind even attempting to discuss it ... Maybe sometimes people just want to post their own thoughts without debating them to death. I don’t see anything wrong with that, it’s a free country and not everyone has the time to get into lengthy conversations. It’s not a debating society it’s just a message board where people can post as much or as little as they want. I mean, he did get into a lengthy convo with Paul. He was invited to explain himself and instead made derogatory remarks about Paul. Obviously he is more than free to do that, but it undermines whatever point he was trying to get across. I am completely with Paul on this one, and I find it happens to me on occasion when I put a poster’s comment under the tiniest bit of scrutiny they get upset and make derogatory remarks rather than engage in debate. |
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Post by oggyoggy on May 2, 2024 5:55:08 GMT
I doubt any survey has been, or could be done in all reality, that proved how 'accurate' or otherwise newspaper reports are, I do know for a fact that the Daily Mail make things up but that's just 'personal experience'. What can be, and has been done is a survey to gauge what percentage of the public actually 'believe' them. 76% believe the Guardian website, 47% believe the Mail website. the only people i know who read the grauniad are loaded and lefties. any body on here read it who isn't ?
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Post by oggyoggy on May 2, 2024 6:01:35 GMT
Have you conveniently forgotten, or just not kept up with the thread? I'll go back and pull them all up for you if you like but a moment ago, you were telling me to get a life and go to bed ... No idea what reports you're referring to bro. Go and pull them all up for me and I'll look at them ASAP. Thanks Paula How about the ONS? According the Crime Survey for England and Wales, someone is actually less likely to be a victim of crime in London than they are across the country as a whole. In the capital, 14.9% of people experienced a crime either to their person or their household in the year ending September 2023, compared with 15.7% nationally. London has the third lowest anti social behaviour levels in the country. The murder rate is dropping and is lower than when johnson was mayor. The rate – roughly equivalent to 12 for every 1 million people – is far from the worst police area for homicides when compared with population. Bedfordshire, Cleveland, Merseyside, West Mercia, South Yorkshire, Humberside and Northumbria all ranked higher in 2023-24, according to ONS figures. Knife crime is high but lower than Cleveland and West Midlands. For gun crime it is behind Gloucestershire, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Northamptonshire, West Yorkshire, the West Midlands, South Yorkshire and Cleveland. It has fallen significantly over the past decade. amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-london |
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Post by iancransonsknees on May 2, 2024 6:08:38 GMT
I have to say people seem more obsessed with statistics on this thread than that phase during Nathan Jones' tenure when his apologists worshipped at the alter of xG figures.
Mark Twain didn't dig no xG.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 2, 2024 6:14:25 GMT
Maybe sometimes people just want to post their own thoughts without debating them to death. I don’t see anything wrong with that, it’s a free country and not everyone has the time to get into lengthy conversations. It’s not a debating society it’s just a message board where people can post as much or as little as they want. I mean, he did get into a lengthy convo with Paul. He was invited to explain himself and instead made derogatory remarks about Paul. Obviously he is more than free to do that, but it undermines whatever point he was trying to get across. I am completely with Paul on this one, and I find it happens to me on occasion when I put a poster’s comment under the tiniest bit of scrutiny they get upset and make derogatory remarks rather than engage in debate. Doesn’t mean he can’t dip in and dip out when he wants to though does it? In the end it’s up to the poster to go down the route he chooses. It’s not a debating society it’s just a message board where people get the opportunity to put their view. Some people like to argue some don’t. Could it be that people want to leave a discussion because - They don’t have 2-3 hours to go to and thro with another poster. - Because they don’t like being accused of being something they’re not. - All they want is to give their view / opinion and nothing more. We have different types of posters on here. Some like to pick posts to the nth degree, search for likes etc to use as evidence like Perry Mason in a courtroom. Some like to batter a thread to death and will only be happy when they “think” they’ve won the argument. Others like to have a joke and be a bit more lighthearted. (Badger and Cranny  One or two put up post then do a runner. Some like to form an alliance. Nothing wrong with any of those traits but we’re all different. |
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Post by emretezzy on May 2, 2024 6:21:22 GMT
If you’ve watched the news tonight the tweet I posted was one of the main stories so I posted it on here.As I’ve said you seem to be judge on jury on the EE board and question everything people post to the nth degree.That superior attitude comes across in abundance for me and it seems other folk agree to
I just find it bizarre that you come on to a discussion forum, post something that somebody else has said and then don't (apparently) want anybody to respond to what you've posted.
Rather than taking a flyer and providing you with a response based on guess work, I thought it would be respectful to you, to ask for clarification of the point that you were actually making.
That's not a superior attitude, that's not questioning everything to the nth degree, that's just simply asking what it was that you wanted to discuss about the tweet that you posted.
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Post by emretezzy on May 2, 2024 6:22:31 GMT
I mean, he did get into a lengthy convo with Paul. He was invited to explain himself and instead made derogatory remarks about Paul. Obviously he is more than free to do that, but it undermines whatever point he was trying to get across. I am completely with Paul on this one, and I find it happens to me on occasion when I put a poster’s comment under the tiniest bit of scrutiny they get upset and make derogatory remarks rather than engage in debate. Doesn’t mean he can’t dip in and dip out when he wants to though does it? In the end it’s up to the poster to go down the route he chooses. It’s not a debating society it’s just a message board where people get the opportunity to put their view. Some people like to argue some don’t. Could it be that people want to leave a discussion because - They don’t have 2-3 hours to go to and thro with another poster. - Because they don’t like being accused of being something they’re not. - All they want is to give their view / opinion and nothing more. We have different types of posters on here. Some like to pick posts to the nth degree, search for likes etc to use as evidence like Perry Mason in a courtroom. Some like to batter a thread to death and will only be happy when they “think” they’ve won the argument. Others like to have a joke and be a bit more lighthearted. (Badger and Cranny One or two put up post then do a runner. Some like to form an alliance. Nothing wrong with any of those traits but we’re all different. I'd rather piss in my own face than get it a full conversation with the left police. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 2, 2024 6:23:47 GMT
I have to say people seem more obsessed with statistics on this thread than that phase during Nathan Jones' tenure when his apologists worshipped at the alter of xG figures. Mark Twain didn't dig no xG. Stats can be twisted what ever way people want. With crime in particular it’s very hard to measure as so much of it goes unreported particularly if both parties are involved in criminal activities. Add to that the differing levels of what gets crimed, reported or dispatched too in different areas and the expectations of its residents. There are certain parts of the country where ASB is someone walking down the road kicking a can whereas in others you might not even get physical fights being reported because it’s the norm and happens on a daily basis. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on May 2, 2024 6:24:52 GMT
I mean, he did get into a lengthy convo with Paul. He was invited to explain himself and instead made derogatory remarks about Paul. Obviously he is more than free to do that, but it undermines whatever point he was trying to get across. I am completely with Paul on this one, and I find it happens to me on occasion when I put a poster’s comment under the tiniest bit of scrutiny they get upset and make derogatory remarks rather than engage in debate. Doesn’t mean he can’t dip in and dip out when he wants to though does it? In the end it’s up to the poster to go down the route he chooses. It’s not a debating society it’s just a message board where people get the opportunity to put their view. Some people like to argue some don’t. Could it be that people want to leave a discussion because - They don’t have 2-3 hours to go to and thro with another poster. - Because they don’t like being accused of being something they’re not. - All they want is to give their view / opinion and nothing more. We have different types of posters on here. Some like to pick posts to the nth degree, search for likes etc to use as evidence like Perry Mason in a courtroom. Some like to batter a thread to death and will only be happy when they “think” they’ve won the argument. Others like to have a joke and be a bit more lighthearted. (Badger and Cranny One or two put up post then do a runner. Some like to form an alliance. Nothing wrong with any of those traits but we’re all different. I just find it sad that people have got nothing better to do than post drivel on an obscure football message board. They just need to get a life. |
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Post by emretezzy on May 2, 2024 6:25:44 GMT
No idea what reports you're referring to bro. Go and pull them all up for me and I'll look at them ASAP. Thanks Paula How about the ONS? According the Crime Survey for England and Wales, someone is actually less likely to be a victim of crime in London than they are across the country as a whole. In the capital, 14.9% of people experienced a crime either to their person or their household in the year ending September 2023, compared with 15.7% nationally. London has the third lowest anti social behaviour levels in the country. The murder rate is dropping and is lower than when johnson was mayor. The rate – roughly equivalent to 12 for every 1 million people – is far from the worst police area for homicides when compared with population. Bedfordshire, Cleveland, Merseyside, West Mercia, South Yorkshire, Humberside and Northumbria all ranked higher in 2023-24, according to ONS figures. Knife crime is high but lower than Cleveland and West Midlands. For gun crime it is behind Gloucestershire, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Northamptonshire, West Yorkshire, the West Midlands, South Yorkshire and Cleveland. It has fallen significantly over the past decade. amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-londonLondon is the best city in the world. And I have been to lots.The thing is, it always has been. I go there once every week or maximum every other and in Central London its honestly the best there is. I witnessed a guy having his phone stolen last week by them scooter gangs. There is zero deterrent in London currently and I'd love to know them stats by postcode. For instance I'd agree W1-3 is extremely safe but there is without doubt some areas you just wouldn't go to now. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 2, 2024 6:27:25 GMT
Doesn’t mean he can’t dip in and dip out when he wants to though does it? In the end it’s up to the poster to go down the route he chooses. It’s not a debating society it’s just a message board where people get the opportunity to put their view. Some people like to argue some don’t. Could it be that people want to leave a discussion because - They don’t have 2-3 hours to go to and thro with another poster. - Because they don’t like being accused of being something they’re not. - All they want is to give their view / opinion and nothing more. We have different types of posters on here. Some like to pick posts to the nth degree, search for likes etc to use as evidence like Perry Mason in a courtroom. Some like to batter a thread to death and will only be happy when they “think” they’ve won the argument. Others like to have a joke and be a bit more lighthearted. (Badger and Cranny One or two put up post then do a runner. Some like to form an alliance. Nothing wrong with any of those traits but we’re all different. I just find it sad that people have got nothing better to do than post drivel on an obscure football message board. They just need to get a life. Guilty as charged  |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 2, 2024 6:34:16 GMT
Last couple of pages has been an interesting read
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 2, 2024 6:50:34 GMT
How about the ONS? According the Crime Survey for England and Wales, someone is actually less likely to be a victim of crime in London than they are across the country as a whole. In the capital, 14.9% of people experienced a crime either to their person or their household in the year ending September 2023, compared with 15.7% nationally. London has the third lowest anti social behaviour levels in the country. The murder rate is dropping and is lower than when johnson was mayor. The rate – roughly equivalent to 12 for every 1 million people – is far from the worst police area for homicides when compared with population. Bedfordshire, Cleveland, Merseyside, West Mercia, South Yorkshire, Humberside and Northumbria all ranked higher in 2023-24, according to ONS figures. Knife crime is high but lower than Cleveland and West Midlands. For gun crime it is behind Gloucestershire, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Northamptonshire, West Yorkshire, the West Midlands, South Yorkshire and Cleveland. It has fallen significantly over the past decade. amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-londonLondon is the best city in the world. And I have been to lots.The thing is, it always has been. I go there once every week or maximum every other and in Central London its honestly the best there is. I witnessed a guy having his phone stolen last week by them scooter gangs. There is zero deterrent in London currently and I'd love to know them stats by postcode. For instance I'd agree W1-3 is extremely safe but there is without doubt some areas you just wouldn't go to now. I think this points key. I’ve been to Central London twice in the last month but not left the square mile other than to venture to Greenwich for an hour. Only one incident of note in Greenwich where a man mountain of a man was walking down the road shouting threats (he was clearly ill and never acted on what he was saying) but that was pretty much it. It’s a beautiful city but for me I count it as the area policed by the Met or overseen by the mayor and not just the square mile or the tourist part. If people want to talk figures (yes I know i’m a hypocrite) of the boroughs in London 15 trump anywhere else in Britain. Of course if you add the nice parts it’ll dilute the bigger picture in relation to a lot of the outer boroughs being dangerous places to live. That can’t be ignored as these Boroughs are large/heavily populated areas. The big concern for me is the crime moving and in particular violent crime moving in. I know it irks some that I’m always putting London down but I love the place and in particular the Tourist part / City. It’s the best city in the world having worked there for many years and lived there too (City Road). I just don’t like the way it’s going whether it’s under Johnson or Khan. I have some friends that work in some of the more difficult Boroughs and they worry about the direction things are going re stabbings, robberies even gun crime. www.churchillsupportservices.com/resources/news-insights/top-15-most-dangerous-areas-in-london/#:~:text=Covering%20much%20of%20London |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2024 7:59:23 GMT
I just find it bizarre that you come on to a discussion forum, post something that somebody else has said and then don't (apparently) want anybody to respond to what you've posted. Rather than taking a flyer and providing you with a response based on guess work, I thought it would be respectful to you, to ask for clarification of the point that you were actually making.
That's not a superior attitude, that's not questioning everything to the nth degree, that's just simply asking what it was that you wanted to discuss about the tweet that you posted.
Wether you are left, right, round or square. Sidiq Khan has been a fucking tragedy for London on near enough every measurable metric. Feel free to share them then. The "measuurable metrics" please if you will. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 2, 2024 8:21:12 GMT
Wether you are left, right, round or square. Sidiq Khan has been a fucking tragedy for London on near enough every measurable metric. Feel free to share them then. The "measuurable metrics" please if you will. Khan is an abject failure. And his mismanagement of crossrail has directly impacted us in the North badly. The bailouts he had to receive were taken straight out of the northern budget and stopped the electrification of the Manchester to Sheffield line. The cut in that funding was announced the same day that crossrail was granted additional funding. And it was his decision to hamstring crossrail by freezing London transport fares. And the terms of his bailout has meant he has had to expand the ridiculous ULEZ scheme. He's also had to increase council tax by more than any other authority in the country at 9.5%. He's a blame passing show pony whose only real interest is in being prime minister. Only real issue is there is nobody better putting themselves forward for the job. As ever we are reduced to incompetent fuckwits in high office. 😔 |
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Post by oggyoggy on May 2, 2024 9:06:21 GMT
I mean, he did get into a lengthy convo with Paul. He was invited to explain himself and instead made derogatory remarks about Paul. Obviously he is more than free to do that, but it undermines whatever point he was trying to get across. I am completely with Paul on this one, and I find it happens to me on occasion when I put a poster’s comment under the tiniest bit of scrutiny they get upset and make derogatory remarks rather than engage in debate. Doesn’t mean he can’t dip in and dip out when he wants to though does it? In the end it’s up to the poster to go down the route he chooses. It’s not a debating society it’s just a message board where people get the opportunity to put their view. Some people like to argue some don’t. Could it be that people want to leave a discussion because - They don’t have 2-3 hours to go to and thro with another poster. - Because they don’t like being accused of being something they’re not. - All they want is to give their view / opinion and nothing more. We have different types of posters on here. Some like to pick posts to the nth degree, search for likes etc to use as evidence like Perry Mason in a courtroom. Some like to batter a thread to death and will only be happy when they “think” they’ve won the argument. Others like to have a joke and be a bit more lighthearted. (Badger and Cranny One or two put up post then do a runner. Some like to form an alliance. Nothing wrong with any of those traits but we’re all different. I am not saying there is anything wrong with posting and then not engaging. I don’t think Paul is either. Obviously your arguments or points of view are massively undermined if you can’t debate or back then up, but this is an online forum so who cares anyway. |
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Post by oggyoggy on May 2, 2024 9:08:12 GMT
How about the ONS? According the Crime Survey for England and Wales, someone is actually less likely to be a victim of crime in London than they are across the country as a whole. In the capital, 14.9% of people experienced a crime either to their person or their household in the year ending September 2023, compared with 15.7% nationally. London has the third lowest anti social behaviour levels in the country. The murder rate is dropping and is lower than when johnson was mayor. The rate – roughly equivalent to 12 for every 1 million people – is far from the worst police area for homicides when compared with population. Bedfordshire, Cleveland, Merseyside, West Mercia, South Yorkshire, Humberside and Northumbria all ranked higher in 2023-24, according to ONS figures. Knife crime is high but lower than Cleveland and West Midlands. For gun crime it is behind Gloucestershire, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Northamptonshire, West Yorkshire, the West Midlands, South Yorkshire and Cleveland. It has fallen significantly over the past decade. amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-londonLondon is the best city in the world. And I have been to lots.The thing is, it always has been. I go there once every week or maximum every other and in Central London its honestly the best there is. I witnessed a guy having his phone stolen last week by them scooter gangs. There is zero deterrent in London currently and I'd love to know them stats by postcode. For instance I'd agree W1-3 is extremely safe but there is without doubt some areas you just wouldn't go to now. Some areas of every city are unsafe, London is no exception to that rule. But it is not true to say London is some hotspot of crime above everywhere else in the UK. The stats don’t show that. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 2, 2024 9:09:32 GMT
Doesn’t mean he can’t dip in and dip out when he wants to though does it? In the end it’s up to the poster to go down the route he chooses. It’s not a debating society it’s just a message board where people get the opportunity to put their view. Some people like to argue some don’t. Could it be that people want to leave a discussion because - They don’t have 2-3 hours to go to and thro with another poster. - Because they don’t like being accused of being something they’re not. - All they want is to give their view / opinion and nothing more. We have different types of posters on here. Some like to pick posts to the nth degree, search for likes etc to use as evidence like Perry Mason in a courtroom. Some like to batter a thread to death and will only be happy when they “think” they’ve won the argument. Others like to have a joke and be a bit more lighthearted. (Badger and Cranny One or two put up post then do a runner. Some like to form an alliance. Nothing wrong with any of those traits but we’re all different. I am not saying there is anything wrong with posting and then not engaging. I don’t think Paul is either. Obviously your arguments or points of view are massively undermined if you can’t debate or back then up, but this is an online forum so who cares anyway. Some people certainly seem too |
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Post by Eggybread on May 2, 2024 9:10:26 GMT
Feel free to share them then. The "measuurable metrics" please if you will. Khan is an abject failure. And his mismanagement of crossrail has directly impacted us in the North badly. The bailouts he had to receive were taken straight out of the northern budget and stopped the electrification of the Manchester to Sheffield line. The cut in that funding was announced the same day that crossrail was granted additional funding. And it was his decision to hamstring crossrail by freezing London transport fares. And the terms of his bailout has meant he has had to expand the ridiculous ULEZ scheme. He's also had to increase council tax by more than any other authority in the country at 9.5%. He's a blame passing show pony whose only real interest is in being prime minister. Only real issue is there is nobody better putting themselves forward for the job. As ever we are reduced to incompetent fuckwits in high office. 😔 Quite a lot of this is completely untrue,and no Im not going to pick it to death even though I could. |
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Post by sticky on May 2, 2024 9:25:28 GMT
London is the best city in the world. And I have been to lots.The thing is, it always has been. I go there once every week or maximum every other and in Central London its honestly the best there is. I witnessed a guy having his phone stolen last week by them scooter gangs. There is zero deterrent in London currently and I'd love to know them stats by postcode. For instance I'd agree W1-3 is extremely safe but there is without doubt some areas you just wouldn't go to now. Some areas of every city are unsafe, London is no exception to that rule. But it is not true to say London is some hotspot of crime above everywhere else in the UK. The stats don’t show that. People do debate and back them up though, thats the point, some people just don’t want to listen, and have this attitude of knowing better all the time. It just becomes a pointless exercise of flinging stats to suit whatever point you’re trying to make (both sides) You provided a reasonable answer to me yesterday, but again that’s just an opinion. And I amongst others have my opinion…I don’t see how certain posters “opinions” are supposed to be treated as facts, where other posters opinions aren’t. You openly admit the media have an agenda on London, to me that sounds ridiculous, and if it was reversed so would you |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2024 10:01:20 GMT
Feel free to share them then. The "measuurable metrics" please if you will. Khan is an abject failure. And his mismanagement of crossrail has directly impacted us in the North badly. The bailouts he had to receive were taken straight out of the northern budget and stopped the electrification of the Manchester to Sheffield line. The cut in that funding was announced the same day that crossrail was granted additional funding. And it was his decision to hamstring crossrail by freezing London transport fares. And the terms of his bailout has meant he has had to expand the ridiculous ULEZ scheme. He's also had to increase council tax by more than any other authority in the country at 9.5%. He's a blame passing show pony whose only real interest is in being prime minister. Only real issue is there is nobody better putting themselves forward for the job. As ever we are reduced to incompetent fuckwits in high office. 😔 Isn't that more to do with the failure of Central Government to fund these schemes? |
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Post by wannabee on May 2, 2024 10:09:46 GMT
Feel free to share them then. The "measuurable metrics" please if you will. Khan is an abject failure. And his mismanagement of crossrail has directly impacted us in the North badly. The bailouts he had to receive were taken straight out of the northern budget and stopped the electrification of the Manchester to Sheffield line. The cut in that funding was announced the same day that crossrail was granted additional funding. And it was his decision to hamstring crossrail by freezing London transport fares. And the terms of his bailout has meant he has had to expand the ridiculous ULEZ scheme. He's also had to increase council tax by more than any other authority in the country at 9.5%. He's a blame passing show pony whose only real interest is in being prime minister. Only real issue is there is nobody better putting themselves forward for the job. As ever we are reduced to incompetent fuckwits in high office. 😔 The original Crossrail Project was budgeted at £15.9Bn in 2007 and was pared back by £1.1Bn by the Coalition Government to £14.8Bn after the Financial Crash and a spending review. The project was completed at a cost of £18.8Bn so £3/4Bn apparently over budget on a project that lasted 15 years so hardly spectacular taking inflation into account. There were also additional safety requirements added to the Project which was completed just after COVID which added to the cost and the delay Finance was provided by mix of central, local and land ownership levies. The project was managed by TfL which the Mayor Khan has overall control. Khan delivers Transport links for London Commuters and the Transport links attract Businesses to London which repay the investment. It why he will be returned as Mayor today with the biggest majority over his rival in history You need to look further afield for the lack of equivalent transport infrastructure in Manchester and Sheffield The biggest white elephant 🐘 which sucked out available capital spending for other projects was HS2 mismanaged centrally by DfT The second biggest problem in Manchester for example is it's equivalent to TfL - TfGM is totally useless and while it's big on ideas like the Bee Network it is short on delivery. There is nothing stopping TfGM with a fully costed Project with cost benefit analysis proceeding except it's easier to moan and blame someone else. Of course you know all this but it's how people want to spin how Khan is performing based on personal taste |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 2, 2024 10:19:40 GMT
Some areas of every city are unsafe, London is no exception to that rule. But it is not true to say London is some hotspot of crime above everywhere else in the UK. The stats don’t show that. People do debate and back them up though, thats the point, some people just don’t want to listen, and have this attitude of knowing better all the time. It just becomes a pointless exercise of flinging stats to suit whatever point you’re trying to make (both sides) You provided a reasonable answer to me yesterday, but again that’s just an opinion. And I amongst others have my opinion…I don’t see how certain posters “opinions” are supposed to be treated as facts, where other posters opinions aren’t. You openly admit the media have an agenda on London, to me that sounds ridiculous, and if it was reversed so would you nailed it. |
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Post by spitthedog on May 2, 2024 10:22:25 GMT
Last couple of pages has been an interesting read You are being ironic right? Tbh I dont know anymore. I find the way this thread has descended into immature name calling and derogatory remarks so very depressing. And the fact that some posters seem to even get a kick out of that kind of 'banter' is really unpleasant. Just saying. |
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May 2, 2024 10:26:42 GMT
Post by spitthedog on May 2, 2024 10:26:42 GMT
How about the ONS? According the Crime Survey for England and Wales, someone is actually less likely to be a victim of crime in London than they are across the country as a whole. In the capital, 14.9% of people experienced a crime either to their person or their household in the year ending September 2023, compared with 15.7% nationally. London has the third lowest anti social behaviour levels in the country. The murder rate is dropping and is lower than when johnson was mayor. The rate – roughly equivalent to 12 for every 1 million people – is far from the worst police area for homicides when compared with population. Bedfordshire, Cleveland, Merseyside, West Mercia, South Yorkshire, Humberside and Northumbria all ranked higher in 2023-24, according to ONS figures. Knife crime is high but lower than Cleveland and West Midlands. For gun crime it is behind Gloucestershire, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Northamptonshire, West Yorkshire, the West Midlands, South Yorkshire and Cleveland. It has fallen significantly over the past decade. amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-londonLondon is the best city in the world. And I have been to lots.The thing is, it always has been. I go there once every week or maximum every other and in Central London its honestly the best there is. I witnessed a guy having his phone stolen last week by them scooter gangs. There is zero deterrent in London currently and I'd love to know them stats by postcode. For instance I'd agree W1-3 is extremely safe but there is without doubt some areas you just wouldn't go to now. The 'no go areas' issue (though I think often exaggerated) is really the same in Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield and Birmingham. Sadly, it has been the case in these cities for decades as well from my own experience. It's likely to be on a bigger scale in London, if that is the case, as you might expect. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 2, 2024 10:56:43 GMT
Khan is an abject failure. And his mismanagement of crossrail has directly impacted us in the North badly. The bailouts he had to receive were taken straight out of the northern budget and stopped the electrification of the Manchester to Sheffield line. The cut in that funding was announced the same day that crossrail was granted additional funding. And it was his decision to hamstring crossrail by freezing London transport fares. And the terms of his bailout has meant he has had to expand the ridiculous ULEZ scheme. He's also had to increase council tax by more than any other authority in the country at 9.5%. He's a blame passing show pony whose only real interest is in being prime minister. Only real issue is there is nobody better putting themselves forward for the job. As ever we are reduced to incompetent fuckwits in high office. 😔 Isn't that more to do with the failure of Central Government to fund these schemes? I'm not here to champion the current govt. I think they have been a shambles. I'm just getting my 2 peneth in about Khan who I feel has been a failure. Too interested in himself, too quick to blame everybody but himself, whether that's the police or workers trying to make an honest living in and around London. He has one aim and that's the big job. A charlatan just like his predecessor. But I guess that's the type of people this job attracts sadly. Maybe we should insist on a non political Mayor or an agreed cross party appointment to ensure political posturing doesn't influence the job at hand. London is too important for the economy to let political shenanigans disrupt it. London needs more affordable housing, needs a better deal/system than ULEZ and needs to get a grip on crime that as far as I can see has grown considerably over a 10 year period. And we need less of this culture war shyte that BOTH Labour and the tories indulge in. Renaming roads and stations and rainbow crossings at tax payers expense is simply pathetic grandstanding and a waste of money that could be spent elsewhere. And for the record I think London is alright and has some of the finest boozers i ever frequented. Wouldnt live there but enjoy trips every now and again. Never saw any crime there either other than when I smoked a reefer at a stone roses concert in Finsbury Park back in the day 😃 #KHANOUT |
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May 2, 2024 11:54:25 GMT
Post by prestwichpotter on May 2, 2024 11:54:25 GMT
Isn't that more to do with the failure of Central Government to fund these schemes? I'm not here to champion the current govt. I think they have been a shambles. I'm just getting my 2 peneth in about Khan who I feel has been a failure. Too interested in himself, too quick to blame everybody but himself, whether that's the police or workers trying to make an honest living in and around London. He has one aim and that's the big job. A charlatan just like his predecessor. But I guess that's the type of people this job attracts sadly. Maybe we should insist on a non political Mayor or an agreed cross party appointment to ensure political posturing doesn't influence the job at hand. London is too important for the economy to let political shenanigans disrupt it. London needs more affordable housing, needs a better deal/system than ULEZ and needs to get a grip on crime that as far as I can see has grown considerably over a 10 year period. And we need less of this culture war shyte that BOTH Labour and the tories indulge in. Renaming roads and stations and rainbow crossings at tax payers expense is simply pathetic grandstanding and a waste of money that could be spent elsewhere. And for the record I think London is alright and has some of the finest boozers i ever frequented. Wouldnt live there but enjoy trips every now and again. Never saw any crime there either other than when I smoked a reefer at a stone roses concert in Finsbury Park back in the day 😃 #KHANOUT I'm no Khan fan, he was another Labour politician who actively worked against the last leader to undermine him. But in the interests of balance what about his achievements, namely the Hopper fare, improvements to the Night Tube, free school meals for kids in deprived areas, huge increase in cycle lanes, more homes build? (still nowhere near enough). I'm a regular visitor to London through work but I'll leave it to those who live and work in London to debate the true success of some of his schemes................. |
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May 2, 2024 12:08:33 GMT
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Post by elystokie on May 2, 2024 12:08:33 GMT
Feel free to share them then. The "measuurable metrics" please if you will. Khan is an abject failure. And his mismanagement of crossrail has directly impacted us in the North badly. The bailouts he had to receive were taken straight out of the northern budget and stopped the electrification of the Manchester to Sheffield line. The cut in that funding was announced the same day that crossrail was granted additional funding. And it was his decision to hamstring crossrail by freezing London transport fares. And the terms of his bailout has meant he has had to expand the ridiculous ULEZ scheme. He's also had to increase council tax by more than any other authority in the country at 9.5%. He's a blame passing show pony whose only real interest is in being prime minister. Only real issue is there is nobody better putting themselves forward for the job. As ever we are reduced to incompetent fuckwits in high office. 😔 It seems people who live there don't share your disdain for the ULEZ scheme, I'd leave it up to them tbh, I only visit occasionally. www.london.gov.uk/media-centre/mayors-press-releases/nearly-twice-many-londoners-support-expansion-ulez |
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May 2, 2024 12:21:30 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 2, 2024 12:21:30 GMT
Khan is an abject failure. And his mismanagement of crossrail has directly impacted us in the North badly. The bailouts he had to receive were taken straight out of the northern budget and stopped the electrification of the Manchester to Sheffield line. The cut in that funding was announced the same day that crossrail was granted additional funding. And it was his decision to hamstring crossrail by freezing London transport fares. And the terms of his bailout has meant he has had to expand the ridiculous ULEZ scheme. He's also had to increase council tax by more than any other authority in the country at 9.5%. He's a blame passing show pony whose only real interest is in being prime minister. Only real issue is there is nobody better putting themselves forward for the job. As ever we are reduced to incompetent fuckwits in high office. 😔 It seems people who live there don't share your disdain for the ULEZ scheme, I'd leave it up to them tbh, I only visit occasionally. www.london.gov.uk/media-centre/mayors-press-releases/nearly-twice-many-londoners-support-expansion-ulezThat'll change when they find it harder and harder to get a sparky, gas fitter, builder, roofer or dyno rod to come and clear their shit up. You'll see... |
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May 2, 2024 12:28:05 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 2, 2024 12:28:05 GMT
That'll change when they find it harder and harder to get a sparky, gas fitter, builder, roofer or dyno rod to come and clear their shit up. You'll see... Surely most Londoners are bright enough to have considered this as a possibility though? |
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