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Apr 14, 2024 19:43:08 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Apr 14, 2024 19:43:08 GMT
How long do you think it takes to do a pat down etc? I bet it would get real old, real quick. On your way to your kids recital - nah, you look funny, time to be frisked and have a background check. Coming home from the pub - hm, not sure about that, you look funny, time to be frisked and maybe you can sit in a van for a while as well. You’ve had it happen a lot then? What’s your understanding of Stop and Search? Not the 70s Sweeney version. |
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Apr 14, 2024 19:45:09 GMT
Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 14, 2024 19:45:09 GMT
I’d say this is good news that the Met have got a potential killer off the street and people can feel safer. Bad news is when someone loses their life at the end of a knife, cost of living, no jobs, more govt corruption, ULEZ, People dying in Palestine, Covid deaths, the threat from Russia, Rising mental health, constant protests. I guess we all see things differently.
What are you on about?
That's got absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the point I was making about your hypocrisy.
Which in fact, was a response to a post you made yesterday morning.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 14, 2024 19:46:41 GMT
How long do you think it takes to do a pat down etc? I bet it would get real old, real quick. On your way to your kids recital - nah, you look funny, time to be frisked and have a background check. Coming home from the pub - hm, not sure about that, you look funny, time to be frisked and maybe you can sit in a van for a while as well. About 30 seconds and yes I would be more than happy to be patted down. Every single day if necessary. In fact when I work away on site that’s exactly what happens. I understand that the point of it is to keep the public safe. And you know why? It’s because I have nothing to hide. I realise it must be a concern for people who want to stab folk though which must be worrying for those types |
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Apr 14, 2024 19:49:24 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Apr 14, 2024 19:49:24 GMT
I’d say this is good news that the Met have got a potential killer off the street and people can feel safer. Bad news is when someone loses their life at the end of a knife, cost of living, no jobs, more govt corruption, ULEZ, People dying in Palestine, Covid deaths, the threat from Russia, Rising mental health, constant protests. I guess we all see things differently. What are you on about? That's got absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the point I was making about your hypocrisy.
Which in fact, was a response to a post you made yesterday morning.
It’s got everything to do with it I think it’s good news and would offer the public reassurance that someone’s being arrested you don’t. Simple. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Apr 14, 2024 19:50:43 GMT
It's proper sad as fuck that a dozen or so posters have dug their trenches so deep that they stalk eachother around the forum seeing who has said what, where, who has liked what & what did that like mean etc... and it's now being dragged out over numerous different threads every, single day. It's pathetic, you all need to grow up.
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Apr 14, 2024 19:56:21 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Apr 14, 2024 19:56:21 GMT
It's proper sad as fuck that a dozen or so posters have dug their trenches so deep that they stalk eachother around the forum seeing who has said what, where, who has liked what & what did that like mean etc... and it's now being dragged out over numerous different threads every, single day. It's pathetic, you all need to grow up. Bang on the money mate. Though I have to say I admire that they can graft so hard to dig out my likes or posts from 2 days ago just to point score. Their time management is clearly better than mine.  |
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Apr 14, 2024 19:58:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2024 19:58:03 GMT
How long do you think it takes to do a pat down etc? I bet it would get real old, real quick. On your way to your kids recital - nah, you look funny, time to be frisked and have a background check. Coming home from the pub - hm, not sure about that, you look funny, time to be frisked and maybe you can sit in a van for a while as well. You’ve had it happen a lot then? What’s your understanding of Stop and Search? Not the 70s Sweeney version. I have been once before actually. I was about 15 yards from my house. I too enthusiastically emptied my pockets when instructed and had a gun pulled on me. I almost shit myself there and then. After that, one officer patted me down while the other stood a few feet back with their hands still on their gun but back in their holster. Does that count? Am I allowed an opinion now? Oh, and my crime was that I stumbled a little bit down the street on the way back from the bar. Definitely, stop and search worthy. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 14, 2024 19:59:04 GMT
What are you on about? That's got absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the point I was making about your hypocrisy.
Which in fact, was a response to a post you made yesterday morning.
It’s got everything to do with it I think it’s good news and would offer the public reassurance that someone’s being arrested you don’t. Simple.
I haven't even mentioned the incident.
My reply was to the post you posted a day before it even happened.
You're (rather disingenuously) attempting to avoid addressing your hypocrisy.
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Post by Mendicant on Apr 14, 2024 20:08:34 GMT
It's proper sad as fuck that a dozen or so posters have dug their trenches so deep that they stalk eachother around the forum seeing who has said what, where, who has liked what & what did that like mean etc... and it's now being dragged out over numerous different threads every, single day. It's pathetic, you all need to grow up. That‘s not what you said on page 2 of this thread. |
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Apr 14, 2024 20:13:35 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 14, 2024 20:13:35 GMT
You’ve had it happen a lot then? What’s your understanding of Stop and Search? Not the 70s Sweeney version. I have been once before actually. I was about 15 yards from my house. I too enthusiastically emptied my pockets when instructed and had a gun pulled on me. I almost shit myself there and then. After that, one officer patted me down while the other stood a few feet back with their hands still on their gun but back in their holster. Does that count? Am I allowed an opinion now? Oh, and my crime was that I stumbled a little bit down the street on the way back from the bar. Definitely, stop and search worthy. You sound like a right card to me😉 How long did it last? |
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Post by Foster on Apr 14, 2024 20:15:11 GMT
I have been once before actually. I was about 15 yards from my house. I too enthusiastically emptied my pockets when instructed and had a gun pulled on me. I almost shit myself there and then. After that, one officer patted me down while the other stood a few feet back with their hands still on their gun but back in their holster. Does that count? Am I allowed an opinion now? Oh, and my crime was that I stumbled a little bit down the street on the way back from the bar. Definitely, stop and search worthy. You sound like a right card to me😉 How long did it last? All in all about 6 hours after they did the cavity search and found the baseball bat. |
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Apr 14, 2024 20:22:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2024 20:22:42 GMT
I have been once before actually. I was about 15 yards from my house. I too enthusiastically emptied my pockets when instructed and had a gun pulled on me. I almost shit myself there and then. After that, one officer patted me down while the other stood a few feet back with their hands still on their gun but back in their holster. Does that count? Am I allowed an opinion now? Oh, and my crime was that I stumbled a little bit down the street on the way back from the bar. Definitely, stop and search worthy. You sound like a right card to me😉 How long did it last? You know, I didn’t have the sense to ask them to hold on while I pressed play on my phone’s stopwatch. Probably significantly less time than 30 minutes, probably more like 10. |
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Apr 14, 2024 21:39:06 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Apr 14, 2024 21:39:06 GMT
You’ve had it happen a lot then? What’s your understanding of Stop and Search? Not the 70s Sweeney version. I have been once before actually. I was about 15 yards from my house. I too enthusiastically emptied my pockets when instructed and had a gun pulled on me. I almost shit myself there and then. After that, one officer patted me down while the other stood a few feet back with their hands still on their gun but back in their holster. Does that count? Am I allowed an opinion now? Oh, and my crime was that I stumbled a little bit down the street on the way back from the bar. Definitely, stop and search worthy. Of course you’re allowed an opinion but I’d suggest a stop and search in the U.K. is very different to the US as the legislations a whole lot different and generally officers aren’t armed so if you’re going to say that it takes 30 mins to search someone I’m entitled to question where you get that estimate from as it seemed excessively long and I’d say you’d have a right to complain if you were kept that long. Here’s some reference for the U.K. Stop and Search it’ll give you a bit of info as to why you can’t be search without some suspicion / grounds. www.gov.uk/police-powers-to-stop-and-search-your-rights |
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Apr 17, 2024 11:37:30 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Apr 17, 2024 11:37:30 GMT
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Apr 17, 2024 11:41:54 GMT
Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 17, 2024 11:41:54 GMT
Wonder if the similar pattern we have all come to expect will continue. |
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Post by Foster on Apr 17, 2024 11:51:47 GMT
It's a shame some people view the Met (or police in general) as cannon fodder or statistics, and not real people with families. Good luck to the officer. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Apr 18, 2024 8:33:36 GMT
Really interesting watch and stats
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Apr 21, 2024 19:00:06 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Apr 21, 2024 19:00:06 GMT
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Apr 22, 2024 17:52:28 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Apr 22, 2024 17:52:28 GMT
Can you post the whole article please? I can’t access the Telegraph’s website. |
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Apr 22, 2024 17:59:12 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Apr 22, 2024 17:59:12 GMT
Can you post the whole article please? I can’t access the Telegraph’s website. To be fair this was the bit that grabbed my attention More than one in five Londoners attacked or threatened in past five years As data show increase in knife crime, report recommends stop and search be used more extensively |
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Apr 22, 2024 17:59:55 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 22, 2024 17:59:55 GMT
Can you post the whole article please? I can’t access the Telegraph’s website. To be fair this was the bit that grabbed my attention More than one in five Londoners attacked or threatened in past five years As data show increase in knife crime, report recommends stop and search be used more extensively No shit😉 |
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Apr 22, 2024 18:22:40 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Apr 22, 2024 18:22:40 GMT
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Apr 22, 2024 18:28:41 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Apr 22, 2024 18:28:41 GMT
Can you post the whole article please? I can’t access the Telegraph’s website. To be fair this was the bit that grabbed my attention More than one in five Londoners attacked or threatened in past five years As data show increase in knife crime, report recommends stop and search be used more extensively Yes, an incredible claim if true (I know hundreds of people in London and can’t think of any who have been attacked or threatened in the past 5 years that I am aware of). It is why I want to see the whole article. Either everyone I know is unbelievably lucky, or something fishy is going on. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Apr 22, 2024 18:30:12 GMT
To be fair this was the bit that grabbed my attention More than one in five Londoners attacked or threatened in past five years As data show increase in knife crime, report recommends stop and search be used more extensively Yes, an incredible claim if true (I know hundreds of people in London and can’t think of any who have been attacked or threatened in the past 5 years). It is why I want to see the whole article. Sorry put a link on now from the Standard. It’s been a long day |
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Apr 22, 2024 18:30:36 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Apr 22, 2024 18:30:36 GMT
That one is up to 25% have been attacked or threatened! It is getting worse as I type apparently! |
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Apr 22, 2024 18:36:24 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 22, 2024 18:36:24 GMT
That one is up to 25% have been attacked or threatened! It is getting worse as I type apparently! You can’t argue with facts Oggy. Does it include Croydon? If not the figures could be worse than you feared😉 |
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Post by oggyoggy on Apr 22, 2024 18:38:38 GMT
Frightening stats if true. Incredible timing for a report like that to be released just a week or so before the mayoral elections! What a coincidence that Ian Duncan Smith’s lobby group that he created would release this now. It’s a shame it doesn’t provide any of the data or evidence to back up its findings. Why does it recommend more stop and search when all evidence points to that making no difference? Any idea what their findings are based upon, other than to try and drum up support for their candidate? |
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Apr 22, 2024 18:43:37 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Apr 22, 2024 18:43:37 GMT
That one is up to 25% have been attacked or threatened! It is getting worse as I type apparently! You can’t argue with facts Oggy. Does it include Croydon? If not the figures could be worse than you feared😉 It must include Croydon. Certainly no way near 1 in 5 (or is it 1 in 4, the two papers give conflicting analysis!?) of people around Richmond have been threatened or attacked in the last 5 years. |
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Apr 22, 2024 18:49:32 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Apr 22, 2024 18:49:32 GMT
You can’t argue with facts Oggy. Does it include Croydon? If not the figures could be worse than you feared😉 It must include Croydon. Certainly no way near 1 in 5 (or is it 1 in 4, the two papers give conflicting analysis!?) of people around Richmond have been threatened or attacked in the last 5 years. I guess that’s social media for you. There’s numerous twitter links on numerous threads on here that are treated as gospel. Who knows what’s the truth nowadays. This should give you a feel for what’s been happening locally. www.mylondon.news/news/shocking-week-london-after-2-29034285 |
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Apr 22, 2024 18:59:01 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 22, 2024 18:59:01 GMT
You can’t argue with facts Oggy. Does it include Croydon? If not the figures could be worse than you feared😉 It must include Croydon. Certainly no way near 1 in 5 (or is it 1 in 4, the two papers give conflicting analysis!?) of people around Richmond have been threatened or attacked in the last 5 years. Oggy the Ostrich😉 |
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