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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 23, 2022 6:48:24 GMT
If it carries on the way it is and the fans fully turn on him, songs and banners etc, there's no chance they can keep him on in any way. Rowett didn't survive the poor showing at Shrewsbury in the FA Cup & that was the match when the crowd who had already started the discontent & anger towards Rowett previously, personally started to mention Scholes and the Board & they reacted by dismissing him shortly afterwards. He was a dead man walking by the Shrewsbury game, the board was actively trying to find a replacement. The Scholes and Cartwright thing is a red herring, there was no way back from that Bristol City game.
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Post by matelot1996 on Aug 23, 2022 7:33:42 GMT
I don't think the board will sack him. They will wait to get rid when his contract is up next summer. I will say this until I am proved wrong. I don’t remember ANY manager surviving a consistent fans revolt. When they turn and the vocal dissent turns to anger, football clubs ALWAYS sack their Managers, or some resign. Admittedly, time scales differ but the result is the same. If Stoke fans collectively decide he should be gone and they stick together, we will have a new manager sooner rather than later. MON / The team have only been audibly booed twice I believe and already he has started slagging the fans. Unfortunately for us, I do think he still has the playing staff to deliver intermittently good results which will allow this to drag on until after Christmas (possibly). It really is OUR Call.
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Post by pretzel on Aug 23, 2022 7:41:51 GMT
I don't think the board will sack him. They will wait to get rid when his contract is up next summer. I will say this until I am proved wrong. I don’t remember ANY manager surviving a consistent fans revolt. When they turn and the vocal dissent turns to anger, football clubs ALWAYS sack their Managers, or some resign. Admittedly, time scales differ but the result is the same. If Stoke fans collectively decide he should be gone and they stick together, we will have a new manager sooner rather than later. MON / The team have only been audibly booed twice I believe and already he has started slagging the fans. Unfortunately for us, I do think he still has the playing staff to deliver intermittently good results which will allow this to drag on until after Christmas (possibly). It really is OUR Call. I may be wrong, and I stand to be corrected (or vindicated) by older Stokies but I seem to remember quite a few chants of 'Waddington Out' during the late 60's Look what happened after that
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Post by matelot1996 on Aug 23, 2022 7:49:09 GMT
I will say this until I am proved wrong. I don’t remember ANY manager surviving a consistent fans revolt. When they turn and the vocal dissent turns to anger, football clubs ALWAYS sack their Managers, or some resign. Admittedly, time scales differ but the result is the same. If Stoke fans collectively decide he should be gone and they stick together, we will have a new manager sooner rather than later. MON / The team have only been audibly booed twice I believe and already he has started slagging the fans. Unfortunately for us, I do think he still has the playing staff to deliver intermittently good results which will allow this to drag on until after Christmas (possibly). It really is OUR Call. I may be wrong, and I stand to be corrected (or vindicated) by older Stokies but I seem to remember quite a few chants of 'Waddington Out' during the late 60's Look what happened after that That doesn’t sound like a consist fans revolt, hence why he probably survived. MON is definitely not Waddington.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 23, 2022 8:06:43 GMT
Reckon if he's moved on it'll be upstairs/backroom and Holden will take the reigns. The obsession with him ‘moving upstairs’ on here is just weird. “Hey Mick, you know how you’re doing a shit job? Fancy sticking around in a different job, while we give your current job to your assistant?” It's almost as strange as the obsession with some for bringing TP back, or having Walters and Shawcross stalking the corridors acting like Vinnie Jones in Snatch
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Post by future100 on Aug 23, 2022 12:03:57 GMT
I will say this until I am proved wrong. I don’t remember ANY manager surviving a consistent fans revolt. When they turn and the vocal dissent turns to anger, football clubs ALWAYS sack their Managers, or some resign. Admittedly, time scales differ but the result is the same. If Stoke fans collectively decide he should be gone and they stick together, we will have a new manager sooner rather than later. MON / The team have only been audibly booed twice I believe and already he has started slagging the fans. Unfortunately for us, I do think he still has the playing staff to deliver intermittently good results which will allow this to drag on until after Christmas (possibly). It really is OUR Call. I may be wrong, and I stand to be corrected (or vindicated) by older Stokies but I seem to remember quite a few chants of 'Waddington Out' during the late 60's Look what happened after that I think that was when he was playing the "Waddington Wall" out of desperation to try and keep us up.
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Aug 23, 2022 13:03:45 GMT
He won't be sacked until this time next year, when we have slipped into the relegation zone in League One after a home defeat by the Vale
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Aug 23, 2022 13:09:43 GMT
Tomorrow won't be soon enough.
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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 23, 2022 13:18:09 GMT
Personally I can see it happening on or after the Watford home game on October 1st. Which is followed by away fixture at Burnley and then at home to Sheffield United. Three really tough fixtures indeed. Pathetic
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 13:20:24 GMT
Personally I can see it happening on or after the Watford home game on October 1st. Which is followed by away fixture at Burnley and then at home to Sheffield United. Three really tough fixtures indeed. Pathetic Should people just happy clap then like you and ignore the absolute mess the club is in and let this manager potentially relegate us?
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Post by RF10 on Aug 23, 2022 13:51:03 GMT
Jones was given 11 games so that puts it to after QPR on 24th September.
After giving the mananger what he wants the board will want to see if can pull things around. Given the injuries I think if we pick up a couple more wins he would be given longer.
Unless there is a high chance of us going down he will be in charge until the summer.
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Post by anchorman on Aug 23, 2022 14:05:18 GMT
The obsession with him ‘moving upstairs’ on here is just weird. “Hey Mick, you know how you’re doing a shit job? Fancy sticking around in a different job, while we give your current job to your assistant?” It's almost as strange as the obsession with some for bringing TP back, or having Walters and Shawcross stalking the corridors acting like Vinnie Jones in Snatch The so called obsession with moving MON upstairs may sound weird but he is apparently heavily involved at a commercial/business level due to his experience in accountancy & business and as such has taken on certain roles that Scholes was previously responsible for hence JC's reluctance to sack him. I actually believe he would make a better Director of Football or whatever the title is than he does a manager. In short, he babysits JC and without him he would be completely bolloxed!
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Post by Goonie on Aug 23, 2022 14:41:01 GMT
I fear he'll see his contract out to June 2023
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Post by karl on Aug 23, 2022 14:52:46 GMT
I fear he'll see his contract out to June 2023 Yeah I am sure he will see his contact out and if he does well it will get extended and if not will leave at the end. Don't think we can get anyone in before due to FFP.
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Post by pavel on Aug 23, 2022 16:43:13 GMT
Not soon enough for my liking, but knowing the owners they have lost the axe and forgotten what it's for.
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Post by a on Aug 23, 2022 17:31:24 GMT
I will say this until I am proved wrong. I don’t remember ANY manager surviving a consistent fans revolt. When they turn and the vocal dissent turns to anger, football clubs ALWAYS sack their Managers, or some resign. Admittedly, time scales differ but the result is the same. If Stoke fans collectively decide he should be gone and they stick together, we will have a new manager sooner rather than later. MON / The team have only been audibly booed twice I believe and already he has started slagging the fans. Unfortunately for us, I do think he still has the playing staff to deliver intermittently good results which will allow this to drag on until after Christmas (possibly). It really is OUR Call. I may be wrong, and I stand to be corrected (or vindicated) by older Stokies but I seem to remember quite a few chants of 'Waddington Out' during the late 60's Look what happened after that Great! Roll on the good times…
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 23, 2022 17:32:31 GMT
Personally I can see it happening on or after the Watford home game on October 1st. Which is followed by away fixture at Burnley and then at home to Sheffield United. Three really tough fixtures indeed. Pathetic Don't be so hard on yourself.
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Post by march4 on Aug 23, 2022 17:55:40 GMT
I may be wrong, and I stand to be corrected (or vindicated) by older Stokies but I seem to remember quite a few chants of 'Waddington Out' during the late 60's Look what happened after that I think that was when he was playing the "Waddington Wall" out of desperation to try and keep us up. The Waddington Wall was earlier than that. People were grumbling before Stan was signed and again in the late 60s when the football was poor and we always seemed to be at the wrong end of the table. The Waddington’s Monopoly banner in the Butler Street Stand was just before Waddo was sacked.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 23, 2022 17:59:26 GMT
I don't think the board will sack him. They will wait to get rid when his contract is up next summer. I will say this until I am proved wrong. I don’t remember ANY manager surviving a consistent fans revolt. When they turn and the vocal dissent turns to anger, football clubs ALWAYS sack their Managers, or some resign. Admittedly, time scales differ but the result is the same. If Stoke fans collectively decide he should be gone and they stick together, we will have a new manager sooner rather than later. MON / The team have only been audibly booed twice I believe and already he has started slagging the fans. Unfortunately for us, I do think he still has the playing staff to deliver intermittently good results which will allow this to drag on until after Christmas (possibly). It really is OUR Call. Absolutely. It's the only chance of salvaging something this season. The board need to know the severity of the situation and I'm going to boo my bollocks off every game until he's gone.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 23, 2022 18:00:25 GMT
When our place in League One is already cemented and even then they’ll still give him another game to mull it over.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 18:18:12 GMT
I will say this until I am proved wrong. I don’t remember ANY manager surviving a consistent fans revolt. When they turn and the vocal dissent turns to anger, football clubs ALWAYS sack their Managers, or some resign. Admittedly, time scales differ but the result is the same. If Stoke fans collectively decide he should be gone and they stick together, we will have a new manager sooner rather than later. MON / The team have only been audibly booed twice I believe and already he has started slagging the fans. Unfortunately for us, I do think he still has the playing staff to deliver intermittently good results which will allow this to drag on until after Christmas (possibly). It really is OUR Call. Absolutely. It's the only chance of salvaging something this season. The board need to know the severity of the situation and I'm going to boo my bollocks off every game until he's gone. Even if we win and play well? Now that really would be pathetic. I'm not against booing and would join in myself but only if the performance warrants it.
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Post by questionable on Aug 23, 2022 18:21:15 GMT
I will say this until I am proved wrong. I don’t remember ANY manager surviving a consistent fans revolt. When they turn and the vocal dissent turns to anger, football clubs ALWAYS sack their Managers, or some resign. Admittedly, time scales differ but the result is the same. If Stoke fans collectively decide he should be gone and they stick together, we will have a new manager sooner rather than later. MON / The team have only been audibly booed twice I believe and already he has started slagging the fans. Unfortunately for us, I do think he still has the playing staff to deliver intermittently good results which will allow this to drag on until after Christmas (possibly). It really is OUR Call. Absolutely. It's the only chance of salvaging something this season. The board need to know the severity of the situation and I'm going to boo my bollocks off every game until he's gone. The most annoying fact is the board probably aren’t even looking for a new manager yet, then there’s the fact they don’t have clue what they are doing. It’s literally an abundance of brain farts approach by the club. I can honestly see this club dropping like a lead balloon, it’s Junior following in his fathers foot steps.
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Post by victoria on Aug 23, 2022 18:42:19 GMT
I assume he been asked to make a success of the Academy. To bring the wage bill down with mainly younger players and to keep us in the championship. We finished 14 th last season.i cant see on paperthat he failed yet. I dont know if the constant injury list ,this or last season is taken in to account with our Coates family.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 23, 2022 18:47:45 GMT
Absolutely. It's the only chance of salvaging something this season. The board need to know the severity of the situation and I'm going to boo my bollocks off every game until he's gone. Even if we win and play well? Now that really would be pathetic. I'm not against booing and would join in myself but only if the performance warrants it. It's about seeing the bigger picture.
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Post by pretzel on Aug 23, 2022 18:53:16 GMT
I may be wrong, and I stand to be corrected (or vindicated) by older Stokies but I seem to remember quite a few chants of 'Waddington Out' during the late 60's Look what happened after that Great! Roll on the good times… Sadly I don't think the Watney Cup exists any more
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Post by a on Aug 23, 2022 18:55:23 GMT
Great! Roll on the good times… Sadly I don't think the Watney Cup exists any more Shame 😂
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 19:04:18 GMT
Even if we win and play well? Now that really would be pathetic. I'm not against booing and would join in myself but only if the performance warrants it. It's about seeing the bigger picture. If he's as out of his depth as many think (including me) the performances and results will bring him down very soon. The crowd will boo spontaneously. If by some miracle we start to win some games and play some half decent football your booing won't matter a jot.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 23, 2022 19:09:58 GMT
I don't think the board will sack him. They will wait to get rid when his contract is up next summer. I will say this until I am proved wrong. I don’t remember ANY manager surviving a consistent fans revolt. When they turn and the vocal dissent turns to anger, football clubs ALWAYS sack their Managers, or some resign. Admittedly, time scales differ but the result is the same. If Stoke fans collectively decide he should be gone and they stick together, we will have a new manager sooner rather than later. MON / The team have only been audibly booed twice I believe and already he has started slagging the fans. Unfortunately for us, I do think he still has the playing staff to deliver intermittently good results which will allow this to drag on until after Christmas (possibly). It really is OUR Call. Only audibly been booed twice what you mean this season in 3 home games, couldn’t tell you about away. What about the 6/8 times in home games second half of last season?
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Post by FrankButcher on Aug 23, 2022 19:18:45 GMT
Hypothetically speaking could the owners in a few months time announce that they won’t be renewing MON’s contract to deter any fan unrest that want him gone sooner? Don’t think he’ll last till then with the way things are going but if FFP dictates that they can’t afford the pay off could that be a thing they could do?
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Post by gawa on Aug 23, 2022 19:21:29 GMT
Jones was given 11 games so that puts it to after QPR on 24th September. After giving the mananger what he wants the board will want to see if can pull things around. Given the injuries I think if we pick up a couple more wins he would be given longer. Unless there is a high chance of us going down he will be in charge until the summer. I thought Jones got 8 points from 15 games before being sacked? 1 win and 2 draws in the next 10 will better that lol.
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