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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jul 13, 2022 15:35:24 GMT
No meant to be quite lightweight Arnie was the full package skills and physicality. |
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Post by chad on Jul 13, 2022 15:36:24 GMT
Back up/alternative to Powell? Should get plenty of games then |
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Post by stokesupporter on Jul 13, 2022 15:45:07 GMT
If he's good enough he will find a place in the team even if Powell is fit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 15:51:47 GMT
If he's good enough he will find a place in the team even if Powell is fit. That’s not really how football works though. It’s not just a case of throwing people in who are good enough. If it were that Lampard and Gerrard midfield would have done a lot better for England than it did. We need a no.10 and this lad sounds like he’ll offer something different. Powell is out for a while. He also sounds like he’d provide the option on the wing, if we went to a flat back four. I’ve never heard of the lad, but the description sounds decent enough considering where we are. Hope it comes off. |
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Post by stokesupporter on Jul 13, 2022 15:59:17 GMT
Well at this level I think it is especially as Celina can cover different attacking positions. And if he's better than Powell he will play before him.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 13, 2022 16:22:00 GMT
"He’s a player who can produce something out of nothing, turn a game on its head and electrify supporters."
Alan Hudson did that every game he played.
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Post by maine on Jul 13, 2022 17:02:45 GMT
I'm inclined to agree with the Ipswich supporter who doubted if he was O'Neill's sort of player.
Maybe we'll find out?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 13, 2022 17:07:16 GMT
I'm inclined to agree with the Ipswich supporter who doubted if he was O'Neill's sort of player. Maybe we'll find out? I think a lot of people incorrectly think he's a long ball man from his time with Northern Ireland. And that's what I was expecting when he joined. But it takes years for any rival fans to pay enough attention to dispel thinking like that, as we know with idiots still thinking we play that way because we briefly did under Pulis a decade ago. For all his faults, he is a manager that signed Vrancic and aims to dominate possession, so I can't see why he wouldn't theoretically fit. |
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Post by northernstokie on Jul 13, 2022 17:09:55 GMT
I'm inclined to agree with the Ipswich supporter who doubted if he was O'Neill's sort of player. Maybe we'll find out? I think a lot of people incorrectly think he's a long ball man from his time with Northern Ireland. And that's what I was expecting when he joined. But it takes years for any rival fans to pay enough attention to dispel thinking like that, as we know with idiots still thinking we play that way because we briefly did under Pulis a decade ago. For all his faults, he is a manager that signed Vrancic and aims to dominate possession, so I can't see why he wouldn't theoretically fit. Its so annoying as soon as people realise I'm a stoke fan all I get is who's the guy that had the long throw or the Ramsey tackle. |
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Post by RF10 on Jul 13, 2022 17:20:08 GMT
His goal last season was unbelievably good.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 13, 2022 18:13:14 GMT
I think a lot of people incorrectly think he's a long ball man from his time with Northern Ireland. And that's what I was expecting when he joined. But it takes years for any rival fans to pay enough attention to dispel thinking like that, as we know with idiots still thinking we play that way because we briefly did under Pulis a decade ago. For all his faults, he is a manager that signed Vrancic and aims to dominate possession, so I can't see why he wouldn't theoretically fit. [/b] Remind them that it was Charlie Adam who scored from his own half against Chelsea. And it was Stoke who ruined Steven Gerrard's farewell game for Liverpool! |
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Post by northernstokie on Jul 13, 2022 18:30:20 GMT
Its so annoying as soon as people realise I'm a stoke fan all I get is who's the guy that had the long throw or the Ramsey tackle. [/b] Remind them that it was Charlie Adam who scored from his own half against Chelsea. And it was Stoke who ruined Steven Gerrard's farewell game for Liverpool![/quote] I always mention the Gerrard game and also when Joe Hart came out after n said we couldn't play against that performance (or words to that effect) against city. |
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Post by Gods on Jul 13, 2022 19:33:50 GMT
I'm inclined to agree with the Ipswich supporter who doubted if he was O'Neill's sort of player. Maybe we'll find out? I think a lot of people incorrectly think he's a long ball man from his time with Northern Ireland. And that's what I was expecting when he joined. But it takes years for any rival fans to pay enough attention to dispel thinking like that, as we know with idiots still thinking we play that way because we briefly did under Pulis a decade ago. For all his faults, he is a manager that signed Vrancic and aims to dominate possession, so I can't see why he wouldn't theoretically fit. Agreed MON is anything but a long ball man. I sometimes think we would do better if he were. If you are going to play possession and never launch the ball in the mixer you'd better have some top class players. Sadly we don't! |
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Post by greenman on Jul 13, 2022 19:39:03 GMT
lets hope the value of Bersant Celina is increasable, ta
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 13, 2022 19:45:13 GMT
Good age (25) and if Ipswich fans seem to like him in League 1 then he's probably tough enough for the champ too, even if he's on the lightweight end.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 13, 2022 19:45:32 GMT
I think a lot of people incorrectly think he's a long ball man from his time with Northern Ireland. And that's what I was expecting when he joined. But it takes years for any rival fans to pay enough attention to dispel thinking like that, as we know with idiots still thinking we play that way because we briefly did under Pulis a decade ago. For all his faults, he is a manager that signed Vrancic and aims to dominate possession, so I can't see why he wouldn't theoretically fit. Agreed MON is anything but a long ball man. I sometimes think we would do better if he were. If you are going to play possession and never launch the ball in the mixer you'd better have some top class players. Sadly we don't! Didn't O'Neill say he wanted a target man because at times we needed that outlet in games when plan A wasn't working? I'd rather he'd stick with plan A and do it better but have the go long option in reserve rather than play hoof ball all the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 19:52:29 GMT
Agreed MON is anything but a long ball man. I sometimes think we would do better if he were. If you are going to play possession and never launch the ball in the mixer you'd better have some top class players. Sadly we don't! Didn't O'Neill say he wanted a target man because at times we needed that outlet in games when plan A wasn't working? I'd rather he'd stick with plan A and do it better but have the go long option in reserve rather than play hoof ball all the time. I don’t see why having a target man means that we will just go to hoofing it all day. I can’t see us changing style drastically in one pre-season. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 13, 2022 19:54:40 GMT
Didn't O'Neill say he wanted a target man because at times we needed that outlet in games when plan A wasn't working? I'd rather he'd stick with plan A and do it better but have the go long option in reserve rather than play hoof ball all the time. I don’t see why having a target man means that we will just go to hoofing it all day. I can’t see us changing style drastically in one pre-season. It doesn’t. Manchester City’s new 6 ft 5 striker isn’t going to see them turn into a John Beck side. |
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Post by gcamoutsideboot on Jul 13, 2022 19:56:03 GMT
Not sure how credible the source is
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Post by AlliG on Jul 13, 2022 20:02:23 GMT
I don’t see why having a target man means that we will just go to hoofing it all day. I can’t see us changing style drastically in one pre-season. It doesn’t. Manchester City’s new 6 ft 5 striker isn’t going to see them turn into a John Beck side. Shame.  I'd love to see them start the season against Arsenal playing PMO football, just for the meltdown amongst the Arsenal fans.  |
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Post by pushon on Jul 13, 2022 20:04:54 GMT
Not sure how credible the source is Well, we should soon know. Yet another left field signing, if it happens. |
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Post by march4 on Jul 13, 2022 20:05:31 GMT
He any good? Anyone seen him play? He'll be a devisive one like Shaq and Tuncay. Some will love him, others won't. I see words like flair and entertaining used to describe him. I dont like him already. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 20:07:59 GMT
I love an unpredictable player. Can turn those crappy draws into a win. Was hoping Vrancic would do that last season but didn't happen.
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Post by hughjarse on Jul 13, 2022 20:08:04 GMT
He'll be a devisive one like Shaq and Tuncay. Some will love him, others won't. I see words like flair and entertaining used to describe him. I dont like him already. That's the spirit 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 13, 2022 20:12:10 GMT
Yes, I feel we need to see words such as Vibrant, Accomplished, Dynamic, Explosive and Imaginitive
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 20:14:14 GMT
Not sure how credible the source is Be fair...it's Arbnor Luta |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 13, 2022 20:18:40 GMT
Not sure how credible the source is Be fair...it's Arbnor Luta 1600 followers |
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 13, 2022 20:21:10 GMT
Well that's more than they can claim at the Vale.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 20:25:16 GMT
Be fair...it's Arbnor Luta 1600 followers I have absolutely no idea who he is or if 1600 followers is a lot to be honest 😉 Hope is true though as looks a decent option to have |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 13, 2022 20:26:01 GMT
Didn't O'Neill say he wanted a target man because at times we needed that outlet in games when plan A wasn't working? I'd rather he'd stick with plan A and do it better but have the go long option in reserve rather than play hoof ball all the time. I don’t see why having a target man means that we will just go to hoofing it all day. I can’t see us changing style drastically in one pre-season. Neither can I - and that's my point. If you build your side around having a target man then typically your plan is to go long to use your target man to bring others into the game. It's pointless having a target man if that isn't the game plan and trying to play patient possession based football with an attacker who isn't facing forward and tuned to playing off the shoulder of the defenders won't work. However as a plan B it makes sense. If the target man can do both that's great but usually they play one way or the other. |
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