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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2022 17:43:38 GMT
Latest Sentinel Q&A. Sounds like it's going to be wing-backs as the primary formation, which surprised me a bit. Maybe more 3-4-3 though, to get Campbell more on the right? Odd to have Souttar, Jagileka and Flint all going for that central spot in the 3 though? Jags can play on the left. I'm extremely disappointed he's going 3 at the back again though. Apart from Tymon it doesn't really suit anyone. Should suit Clarke
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Post by greenhoff on Jun 23, 2022 17:57:42 GMT
Latest Sentinel Q&A. Sounds like it's going to be wing-backs as the primary formation, which surprised me a bit. Maybe more 3-4-3 though, to get Campbell more on the right? Odd to have Souttar, Jagileka and Flint all going for that central spot in the 3 though? Jags can play on the left. I'm extremely disappointed he's going 3 at the back again though. Apart from Tymon it doesn't really suit anyone. Me too. Hate 5 at the back.
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Post by huuuuuth on Jun 23, 2022 17:59:14 GMT
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Post by gawa on Jun 23, 2022 18:15:06 GMT
Good player the few times I’ve seen him and did well at Blackpool and Millwall on loan.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 23, 2022 18:22:16 GMT
3 at the back just doesn’t work.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2022 18:26:00 GMT
3 at the back just doesn’t work. 3 at the back can absolutely work with the correct personnel and tactics, as can any formation. Last season MON got it hopelessly wrong, injuries weren’t helpful but we simply didn’t have the squad to pull it off and he insisted on persevering with it when it was clear it wasn’t working. It’s squarely on him to change that next season, if he doesn’t sign the right players and play them correctly he should be toast by Christmas.
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Post by clarkeda on Jun 23, 2022 18:38:40 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-news-fixtures-7243562As it stands, with Souttar not expected to be fit ready for the start of the campaign, a new centre-back is on the list. It will be interesting to see how that is tackled, if it is seen as only keeping the bed warm until Souttar is back up and running. A loan? A veteran? Or setting the bar high and raising the competition? Yoann Barbet, who impressed on the left of a three for QPR, is a free agent and was linked with Bordeaux, who are now in crisis. Michael Hector and Alfie Mawson have left Fulham, Michael Morrison has been in talks with Reading. Barbet seems to tick a lot of boxes, short-term, if we're just another decent warm body in the frees and loans bucket QPR fans generally rated him too Like the sound of barbet to be fair
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Post by clarkeda on Jun 23, 2022 18:41:10 GMT
Could be a hat trick of signings from Reading with us looking at Rinomhota (sp) and also Lucas Joao Lucas Joao is the one I want.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 23, 2022 18:46:20 GMT
3 at the back just doesn’t work. Antonio Conte disagrees.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 23, 2022 18:52:37 GMT
Jags can play on the left. I'm extremely disappointed he's going 3 at the back again though. Apart from Tymon it doesn't really suit anyone. Should suit Clarke The bloke who's naturally a central defender?
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Post by a on Jun 23, 2022 18:52:46 GMT
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Post by LGH87 on Jun 23, 2022 18:53:22 GMT
All three promoted clubs played 3 at the back and most of the play off teams did too.
Must be wank though😂
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 23, 2022 18:55:05 GMT
All three promoted clubs played 3 at the back and most of the play off teams did too. Must be wank though😂 I’ll rephrase. 3 at the back doesn’t/didn’t work for us. With Souttar back it could, I don’t know, I just don’t like it. 4-2-3-1 should be the formation we use.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2022 18:58:47 GMT
The bloke who's naturally a central defender? He’s already said he’s a right back/wing back. Do keep up
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 23, 2022 19:04:21 GMT
All three promoted clubs played 3 at the back and most of the play off teams did too. Must be wank though😂 I’ll rephrase. 3 at the back doesn’t/didn’t work for us. With Souttar back it could, I don’t know, I just don’t like it. 4-2-3-1 should be the formation we use. It's nothing to do with the formations it's a managers version of them. MON's idea of 352 isn't Antonio Conte's. Just as MON's version of 433 isn't Jurgen Klopp's. If you've noticed the theme MON's version of anything is considerably more conservative than the successful version.
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Post by cushyscfc on Jun 23, 2022 19:21:52 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2022 19:26:35 GMT
Could that scupper Afobes move?👀
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2022 19:33:23 GMT
The bloke who's naturally a central defender? No that's Flint Clarke, the right back/wing back we have on loan check the footage out of him, he's an aggressive hard runner with a good cross Tbh from what you can see wouldn't fancy him at CB or at least not in a back 4
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Post by clarkeda on Jun 23, 2022 19:45:48 GMT
Latest Sentinel Q&A. Sounds like it's going to be wing-backs as the primary formation, which surprised me a bit. Maybe more 3-4-3 though, to get Campbell more on the right? Odd to have Souttar, Jagileka and Flint all going for that central spot in the 3 though? Explains Nyambe links too.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 23, 2022 19:46:28 GMT
Could that scupper Afobes move?👀 I’d be surprised if they saw Carroll as anything more than a last ten minutes style player. Afobe and Carroll are nothing alike on the pitch.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 23, 2022 19:47:57 GMT
I’ll rephrase. 3 at the back doesn’t/didn’t work for us. With Souttar back it could, I don’t know, I just don’t like it. 4-2-3-1 should be the formation we use. It's nothing to do with the formations it's a managers version of them. MON's idea of 352 isn't Antonio Conte's. Just as MON's version of 433 isn't Jurgen Klopp's. If you've noticed the theme MON's version of anything is considerably more conservative than the successful version. It does help make your point when you compare him to two of the best managers in the world right now and find him wanting.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2022 19:52:53 GMT
Could that scupper Afobes move?👀 I’d be surprised if they saw Carroll as anything more than a last ten minutes style player. Afobe and Carroll are nothing alike on the pitch. Who knows? The Belgian league is the pits and it may be a question of one or the other. You’d think they’d be more interested in Carroll as a player who’s demanded huge transfer fees and scored goals for England
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 23, 2022 20:04:33 GMT
All three promoted clubs played 3 at the back and most of the play off teams did too. Must be wank though😂 Its the manager that's the problem.
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Post by greenhoff on Jun 23, 2022 20:06:30 GMT
It's nothing to do with the formations it's a managers version of them. MON's idea of 352 isn't Antonio Conte's. Just as MON's version of 433 isn't Jurgen Klopp's. If you've noticed the theme MON's version of anything is considerably more conservative than the successful version. It does help make your point when you compare him to two of the best managers in the world right now and find him wanting. You're right they are two of the best managers in the world. You're also right that MON is often found wanting.
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 23, 2022 21:04:29 GMT
The bloke who's naturally a central defender? No that's Flint Clarke, the right back/wing back we have on loan check the footage out of him, he's an aggressive hard runner with a good cross Tbh from what you can see wouldn't fancy him at CB or at least not in a back 4 If you mean Clarke, he’s just as good in a back 4 if it’s the type of formation that allows him width to run down the flank.
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Post by independent on Jun 23, 2022 21:16:48 GMT
I think we should approach Klopp. Who knows, he might even bring Salah with him. If anyone knows where we can get a goal scoring striker for free, please let MON know.
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2022 21:27:34 GMT
No that's Flint Clarke, the right back/wing back we have on loan check the footage out of him, he's an aggressive hard runner with a good cross Tbh from what you can see wouldn't fancy him at CB or at least not in a back 4 If you mean Clarke, he’s just as good in a back 4 if it’s the type of formation that allows him width to run down the flank. At RB yes but as a CB in a back four not really sure
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Post by shakermaker on Jun 23, 2022 21:42:24 GMT
If you mean Clarke, he’s just as good in a back 4 if it’s the type of formation that allows him width to run down the flank. At RB yes but as a CB in a back four not really sure He can do it, but just not as well as a RB/RWB. If we go 4 at the back, then it's a choice of Flint or Jags to partner Souttar (bearing in mind we only have Jags til the end of the year). With 3 at the back, I'd put Wilmot on the right of the three. Would deffo not have Flint on the left and Jags could do a job there, but we really could do with a left-sided CB (ideally a left-footed one).
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jun 23, 2022 22:02:41 GMT
Flint will never partner Souttar in a back 4. There, I’ve said it.
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Post by george2again on Jun 23, 2022 22:13:14 GMT
At RB yes but as a CB in a back four not really sure He can do it, but just not as well as a RB/RWB. If we go 4 at the back, then it's a choice of Flint or Jags to partner Souttar (bearing in mind we only have Jags til the end of the year). With 3 at the back, I'd put Wilmot on the right of the three. Would deffo not have Flint on the left and Jags could do a job there, but we really could do with a left-sided CB (ideally a left-footed one). WhAt about Clucus playing left sided Centre back? Has all attributes and get some use out of him.
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