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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2022 11:57:00 GMT
Maybe it's PR trying to balance out one of the most warmly perceived players against one of the most hated teams š And what exactly has this got to do with SCFC summer targets? It's a transfer thread, it's always been about any transfers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 12:01:47 GMT
Wilmot? At right wing back? Each to their own I guess. He played there last season on occasions.Ā He only played there whenever we switched to a back four. Smith came in when we switched to three cbs
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 12:02:33 GMT
In terms of a RWB it just shows how negative the mindset is when you can even consider playing a CB there. Surely we could just change to a flat back four in the event of an injury/suspension to Clarke? In an ideal world, weād find a right wing back better than Duhaney who is not upset about sitting on the bench for much of the season. Iād rather the club focus efforts on a good goalkeeper and target man first though than fattening the wage bill on squad players. We still don't have a non-shit right back though do we, in that scenario?
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 4, 2022 12:14:52 GMT
Surely we could just change to a flat back four in the event of an injury/suspension to Clarke? In an ideal world, weād find a right wing back better than Duhaney who is not upset about sitting on the bench for much of the season. Iād rather the club focus efforts on a good goalkeeper and target man first though than fattening the wage bill on squad players. We still don't have a non-shit right back though do we, in that scenario? But we still do have players. We donāt have one target man. We should (in my opinion) keep the club as flexible with regards to wages as possible until we bring one in. Then Bursik out, better goalkeeper in, then squad fillers. It would just be a perfectly Stoke thing to waste any flexibility we have on wages to bring in a bunch of players ājust in caseā and then not have enough money to be attractive for those we actually need.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 12:14:54 GMT
Surely we could just change to a flat back four in the event of an injury/suspension to Clarke? In an ideal world, weād find a right wing back better than Duhaney who is not upset about sitting on the bench for much of the season. Iād rather the club focus efforts on a good goalkeeper and target man first though than fattening the wage bill on squad players. We still don't have a non-shit right back though do we, in that scenario? Clarke has played RB more than rwb hasn't he? Maybe the reason we aren't looking for cover is because we intend to play mainly with a back four and use Wilmot has cover.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 4, 2022 12:18:19 GMT
Hasn't he been through enough lately? What a slap in the face for Brentford. Took him on when no one else would and now he buggers off to the Scum, presumably for more money. That`s a thank you isn`t it ? His heart condition should get a testing playing for that shower. They took a punt and got a quality player they never would have got near in other circumstances, they both did well out of it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 12:29:52 GMT
We still don't have a non-shit right back though do we, in that scenario? But we still do have players. We donāt have one target man. We should (in my opinion) keep the club as flexible with regards to wages as possible until we bring one in. Then Bursik out, better goalkeeper in, then squad fillers. It would just be a perfectly Stoke thing to waste any flexibility we have on wages to bring in a bunch of players ājust in caseā and then not have enough money to be attractive for those we actually need. If we want to do well this season then we'll need decent options everywhere. I agree completely that we should prioritise a target man above any other signing, but for me overall we still need, ideally, another four in - a striker, a keeper, a no 10 and competition at RB.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 12:30:23 GMT
We still don't have a non-shit right back though do we, in that scenario? Clarke has played RB more than rwb hasn't he? Maybe the reason we aren't looking for cover is because we intend to play mainly with a back four and use Wilmot has cover. Wilmot is crap at RB, that's my point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 12:44:52 GMT
Clarke has played RB more than rwb hasn't he? Maybe the reason we aren't looking for cover is because we intend to play mainly with a back four and use Wilmot has cover. Wilmot is crap at RB, that's my point. I think he's ok as cover at rb as long as we don't try and use him as a wingback. It all depends which system we intend to use primarily. If it's wingbacks then we definitely need another.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 12:46:31 GMT
Wilmot is crap at RB, that's my point. I think he's ok as cover at rb as long as we don't try and use him as a wingback. It all depends which system we intend to use primarily. If it's wingbacks then we definitely need another. Even in a back four I thought beyond one game vs Swansea he was a bit of a disaster there - got plenty of chasings defensively and not a huge amount of end product. I like him as a CB more than a lot on here seem to but I'd really rather we had another specialist RB/RWB if possible.
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Post by danpotter on Jul 4, 2022 12:54:13 GMT
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Post by Goonie on Jul 4, 2022 13:14:03 GMT
What a slap in the face for Brentford. Took him on when no one else would and now he buggers off to the Scum, presumably for more money. That`s a thank you isn`t it ? His heart condition should get a testing playing for that shower. They took a punt and got a quality player they never would have got near in other circumstances, they both did well out of it. Knowing Brentford recruitment they'll replace him with someone almost as good for buttons Wish we had a Money Ball team
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 4, 2022 13:25:10 GMT
All the goodwill for Eriksson is about to disappear overnight......... Good player, but strange signing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2022 13:27:35 GMT
All the goodwill for Eriksson is about to disappear overnight......... Good player, but strange signing. Why? He's a fantastic player and Man Yoo need all the fantastic players they can get. He's a class footballer and works his socks off. He's exactly what they need isn't he?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 4, 2022 13:35:51 GMT
Good player, but strange signing. Why? He's a fantastic player and Man Yoo need all the fantastic players they can get. He's a class footballer and works his socks off. He's exactly what they need isn't he? Well I'd question how he will perform at that level with everything that's happened with him. Curious if Bruno will play more advanced than him. Could turn out to be a really great signing, I would have imagined Utd would've looked at other options than a 30 year old Eriksen though.
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 4, 2022 13:41:41 GMT
Good player, but strange signing. Why? He's a fantastic player and Man Yoo need all the fantastic players they can get. He's a class footballer and works his socks off. He's exactly what they need isn't he? I agree he's a fantastic player but him, Bruno, De Jong and even Van De Beek are all slight variations of the same player, if they put 3 of those in the same team they'll get smashed week in week out. They need a top class striker, a top class defensive midfielder and a top class quick defender.
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Post by hyaduck on Jul 4, 2022 13:47:07 GMT
Clarke has played RB more than rwb hasn't he? Maybe the reason we aren't looking for cover is because we intend to play mainly with a back four and use Wilmot has cover. Wilmot is crap at RB, that's my point. Wilmot is crap full stop!!! His passing and distribution are woeful!!!!
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 4, 2022 13:50:18 GMT
Why? He's a fantastic player and Man Yoo need all the fantastic players they can get. He's a class footballer and works his socks off. He's exactly what they need isn't he? I agree he's a fantastic player but him, Bruno, De Jong and even Van De Beek are all slight variations of the same player, if they put 3 of those in the same team they'll get smashed week in week out. They need a top class striker, a top class defensive midfielder and a top class quick defender. They had Juan Mata and Paul Pogba. They had problems at that point and they've replaced them with a similar player. Eriksen is a great player, but I don't think he's going to make massive changes to their team.
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Post by themistocles on Jul 4, 2022 14:56:38 GMT
Stevie it's Michael
What you saying about JPB ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2022 15:05:54 GMT
Why? He's a fantastic player and Man Yoo need all the fantastic players they can get. He's a class footballer and works his socks off. He's exactly what they need isn't he? Well I'd question how he will perform at that level with everything that's happened with him. Curious if Bruno will play more advanced than him. Could turn out to be a really great signing, I would have imagined Utd would've looked at other options than a 30 year old Eriksen though. Frenkie De Jong is meant to be joining so they have. Another lovely footballer. I think Eriksen brings a maturity that Pogba and Ronaldo don't have. A team ethos that neither have. And is the complete opposite of them completely. Willing to sacrifice himself for the good of the team. He's a fantastic player and a fantastic pro. Something they're missing.
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 4, 2022 15:09:19 GMT
Well I'd question how he will perform at that level with everything that's happened with him. Curious if Bruno will play more advanced than him. Could turn out to be a really great signing, I would have imagined Utd would've looked at other options than a 30 year old Eriksen though. Frenkie De Jong is meant to be joining so they have. Another lovely footballer. I think Eriksen brings a maturity that Pogba and Ronaldo don't have. A team ethos that neither have. And is the complete opposite of them completely. Willing to sacrifice himself for the good of the team. He's a fantastic player and a fantastic pro. Something they're missing. According to Danny Murphy, Eriksen is nowhere near world class and Utd fans should be underwhelmed.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2022 15:09:44 GMT
Why? He's a fantastic player and Man Yoo need all the fantastic players they can get. He's a class footballer and works his socks off. He's exactly what they need isn't he? I agree he's a fantastic player but him, Bruno, De Jong and even Van De Beek are all slight variations of the same player, if they put 3 of those in the same team they'll get smashed week in week out. They need a top class striker, a top class defensive midfielder and a top class quick defender. De Jong will play deeper and keep the ball. Eriksen can do that or play further forward. Fernandes is an all out #10. I don't think it'll be about playing them all together all the time but playing the best ones for the job. Sometimes that might be all 3, others it won't.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2022 15:11:47 GMT
Frenkie De Jong is meant to be joining so they have. Another lovely footballer. I think Eriksen brings a maturity that Pogba and Ronaldo don't have. A team ethos that neither have. And is the complete opposite of them completely. Willing to sacrifice himself for the good of the team. He's a fantastic player and a fantastic pro. Something they're missing. According to Danny Murphy, Eriksen is nowhere near world class and Utd fans should be underwhelmed. I don't think he's world class. But he's better than what they have and what he's replacing. And a great player for the younger players to learn from too. Just sounds like a bit of a bitter ex Spurs and Liverpool pro to me.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 4, 2022 15:13:20 GMT
Why? He's a fantastic player and Man Yoo need all the fantastic players they can get. He's a class footballer and works his socks off. He's exactly what they need isn't he? I agree he's a fantastic player but him, Bruno, De Jong and even Van De Beek are all slight variations of the same player, if they put 3 of those in the same team they'll get smashed week in week out. They need a top class striker, a top class defensive midfielder and a top class quick defender. Do I mix him up with someone else or isn't De Jong more of a defensive midfielder?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2022 15:15:56 GMT
I agree he's a fantastic player but him, Bruno, De Jong and even Van De Beek are all slight variations of the same player, if they put 3 of those in the same team they'll get smashed week in week out. They need a top class striker, a top class defensive midfielder and a top class quick defender. Do I mix him up with someone else or isn't De Jong more of a defensive midfielder? Yeah he plays deeper and as one of the pivots for Ajax, Holland and Barca. He's not really defensive though. More of a ball player. Bloody good player.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 4, 2022 15:18:19 GMT
Do I mix him up with someone else or isn't De Jong more of a defensive midfielder? Yeah he plays deeper and as one of the pivots for Ajax, Holland and Barca. He's not really defensive though. More of a ball player. Bloody good player. Yes, that one! Absolutely amazing player!
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Post by gawa on Jul 4, 2022 15:31:47 GMT
I think to add to what others have said. Eriksen also came through the Ajax academy so you could say he has the Ajax dna in him too. So youād think he would link up well with VDB and De Jong. Plus United were terrible at set pieces last season and have been for a while. So should help this area out too.
Canāt see him playing every game but a good professional to have in the squad and rotate.
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 4, 2022 16:39:09 GMT
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 4, 2022 16:50:46 GMT
Well I'd question how he will perform at that level with everything that's happened with him. Curious if Bruno will play more advanced than him. Could turn out to be a really great signing, I would have imagined Utd would've looked at other options than a 30 year old Eriksen though. Frenkie De Jong is meant to be joining so they have. Another lovely footballer. I think Eriksen brings a maturity that Pogba and Ronaldo don't have. A team ethos that neither have. And is the complete opposite of them completely. Willing to sacrifice himself for the good of the team. He's a fantastic player and a fantastic pro. Something they're missing. He is in a similar mould to players they have rid of though right? I mean Pogba I agree with the maturity sides of thing, but he is an unreal player. I think with De Jong that will change the way they play more than an Eriksen
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jul 4, 2022 16:53:06 GMT
What a slap in the face for Brentford. Took him on when no one else would and now he buggers off to the Scum, presumably for more money. That`s a thank you isn`t it ? His heart condition should get a testing playing for that shower. They took a punt and got a quality player they never would have got near in other circumstances, they both did well out of it. Yep, worked out well for both
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