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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 9:48:06 GMT
Don't we desperately need a right wing back? We have one loanee from Arsenal who is arguably a centre half. Based on what he and MON have said, it's likely to be him starting there though. But worrying what would happen if he proved himself not up to it or got injured. I don't think a back three system could function with Duhaney or Wilmot there. So wouldn't think another option like Byrne would be remotely a luxury. Yeah, I'm pretty skeptical of Clarke. He might be brilliant but he's young and pretty unproven, competency in the Scottish league doesn't fill me with confidence. Byrne would be perfect for wing back on a two year deal. I'm not seeing any links though Grapey, are you aware of any links with right wing backs or the manager alluding to needing one? I'm concerned it's Duhaney and Clarke for the season.
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Post by Northy on Jul 4, 2022 9:49:57 GMT
Based on what he and MON have said, it's likely to be him starting there though. But worrying what would happen if he proved himself not up to it or got injured. I don't think a back three system could function with Duhaney or Wilmot there. So wouldn't think another option like Byrne would be remotely a luxury. Yeah, I'm pretty skeptical of Clarke. He might be brilliant but he's young and pretty unproven, competency in the Scottish league doesn't fill me with confidence. Byrne would be perfect for wing back on a two year deal. I'm not seeing any links though Grapey, are you aware of any links with right wing backs or the manager alluding to needing one? I'm concerned it's Duhaney and Clarke for the season. Was Edwards just another 1 season loan to New York, would he be welcomed back into the fold in November ?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 4, 2022 9:56:05 GMT
Based on what he and MON have said, it's likely to be him starting there though. But worrying what would happen if he proved himself not up to it or got injured. I don't think a back three system could function with Duhaney or Wilmot there. So wouldn't think another option like Byrne would be remotely a luxury. Yeah, I'm pretty skeptical of Clarke. He might be brilliant but he's young and pretty unproven, competency in the Scottish league doesn't fill me with confidence. Byrne would be perfect for wing back on a two year deal. I'm not seeing any links though Grapey, are you aware of any links with right wing backs or the manager alluding to needing one? I'm concerned it's Duhaney and Clarke for the season. Not really seen many links. The Byrne thing seems to be ongoing and wouldn't be surprised if he went somewhere, still potentially on a free. Nyambe has been semi-linked, but doesn't seem a natural wing-back despite playing there for Blackburn. Whether Byrne would come here and be in a competition for games with Clarke when he could get guaranteed games elsewhere, who knows? Maybe Clarke could play in the middle. It is a worry though, when you think what would happen if Clarke was unavailable. Wilmot just isn't a wing-back and neither is Duhaney. So would a Clarke injury mean an automatic system change as it stands?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 4, 2022 9:56:46 GMT
Yeah, I'm pretty skeptical of Clarke. He might be brilliant but he's young and pretty unproven, competency in the Scottish league doesn't fill me with confidence. Byrne would be perfect for wing back on a two year deal. I'm not seeing any links though Grapey, are you aware of any links with right wing backs or the manager alluding to needing one? I'm concerned it's Duhaney and Clarke for the season. Was Edwards just another 1 season loan to New York, would he be welcomed back into the fold in November ? He couldn't play until January I think. But just get the impression MON has completely washed his hands of him for whatever reason.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 4, 2022 11:04:44 GMT
All the goodwill for Eriksson is about to disappear overnight.........
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 4, 2022 11:05:30 GMT
Don't we desperately need a right wing back? We have one loanee from Arsenal who is arguably a centre half. Based on what he and MON have said, it's likely to be him starting there though. But worrying what would happen if he proved himself not up to it or got injured. I don't think a back three system could function with Duhaney or Wilmot there. So wouldn't think another option like Byrne would be remotely a luxury. What calibre of cover do you expect us to have? Wilmot did a decent job at right back with three centre halves last season.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jul 4, 2022 11:07:31 GMT
Don't we desperately need a right wing back? We have one loanee from Arsenal who is arguably a centre half. Based on what he and MON have said, it's likely to be him starting there though. But worrying what would happen if he proved himself not up to it or got injured. I don't think a back three system could function with Duhaney or Wilmot there. So wouldn't think another option like Byrne would be remotely a luxury. The other fella in a similar position Buchanan who we were reportedly interested in is meant to be going to Germany as a free agent.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 4, 2022 11:08:08 GMT
Based on what he and MON have said, it's likely to be him starting there though. But worrying what would happen if he proved himself not up to it or got injured. I don't think a back three system could function with Duhaney or Wilmot there. So wouldn't think another option like Byrne would be remotely a luxury. What calibre of cover do you expect us to have? Wilmot did a decent job at right back with three centre halves last season. RWB is a completely different role to RB. Wilmot was in the 'he can do a job' kind of level at right-back, but I thought he was largely poor and a negative O'Neill chose Smith at RWB, never Wilmot. Same with Duhaney, who looks to be at least one division too high. Even Sparrow was picked ahead of him.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 4, 2022 11:14:40 GMT
What calibre of cover do you expect us to have? Wilmot did a decent job at right back with three centre halves last season. RWB is a completely different role to RB. Wilmot was in the 'he can do a job' kind of level at right-back, but I thought he was largely poor and a negative O'Neill chose Smith at RWB, never Wilmot. Same with Duhaney, who looks to be at least one division too high. Even Sparrow was picked ahead of him. No he didn't, Wilmot was picked ahead of Smith at times. His passing and defending was better than Smith's and he was far more progressive minded than Smith. And anyway we're talking cover here so 'he can do the job' is the best we can afford.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2022 11:15:42 GMT
RWB is a completely different role to RB. Wilmot was in the 'he can do a job' kind of level at right-back, but I thought he was largely poor and a negative O'Neill chose Smith at RWB, never Wilmot. Same with Duhaney, who looks to be at least one division too high. Even Sparrow was picked ahead of him. No he didn't, Wilmot was picked ahead of Smith at times. His passing and defending was better than Smith's and he was far more progressive minded than Smith. Wilmot? At right wing back? Each to their own I guess.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 4, 2022 11:16:54 GMT
No he didn't, Wilmot was picked ahead of Smith at times. His passing and defending was better than Smith's and he was far more progressive minded than Smith. Wilmot? At right wing back? Each to their own I guess. He played there last season on occasions.
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Post by gcamoutsideboot on Jul 4, 2022 11:17:11 GMT
Hasn't he been through enough lately?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2022 11:18:20 GMT
Wilmot? At right wing back? Each to their own I guess. He played there last season on occasions. He did. And was pretty awful.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 4, 2022 11:19:32 GMT
Wilmot? At right wing back? Each to their own I guess. He played there last season on occasions. www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ben-wilmot/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/467599/plus/0/verein/512I can't recall any. And transfermarkt has got all his appearances on the right at RB, as opposed to RWB. I thought he was largely very poor, but it's all about opinions. He was bought as a right-sided centre-back for a back three - and that's clearly what he is.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 4, 2022 11:20:11 GMT
All the goodwill for Eriksson is about to disappear overnight......... Such a shame , such a brat bloke whose overcome such adversity joining the vilest sporting institution on the planet
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 4, 2022 11:21:55 GMT
All the goodwill for Eriksson is about to disappear overnight......... Such a shame , such a brat bloke whose overcome such adversity joining the vilest sporting institution on the planet Ideal player for them too. Unlike the Ronaldo signing that was obviously going to make their team worse, this will do the opposite. Good business for them.
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Post by drfootball on Jul 4, 2022 11:26:51 GMT
Hasn't he been through enough lately? What a slap in the face for Brentford. Took him on when no one else would and now he buggers off to the Scum, presumably for more money. That`s a thank you isn`t it ? His heart condition should get a testing playing for that shower.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 4, 2022 11:29:05 GMT
I can't tell you when but certainly Smith was dropped for him round about Feb March time and I'm sure sometimes he played RWB. I am talking about him being adequate cover there which is the best you can hope for as second choice in the financial position we are in. There are more pressing concerns than cover for RB/RWB. I'd rather spend better wages on a decent forward and have a combination of DWP and Wilmot as cover for the right side.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 4, 2022 11:35:00 GMT
Based on what he and MON have said, it's likely to be him starting there though. But worrying what would happen if he proved himself not up to it or got injured. I don't think a back three system could function with Duhaney or Wilmot there. So wouldn't think another option like Byrne would be remotely a luxury. What calibre of cover do you expect us to have? Wilmot did a decent job at right back with three centre halves last season. In terms of calibre of cover, I'd be hoping for 'non-terrible', ideally.
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Post by Goonie on Jul 4, 2022 11:39:28 GMT
Hasn't he been through enough lately? Maybe it's PR trying to balance out one of the most warmly perceived players against one of the most hated teams 😁
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jul 4, 2022 11:42:49 GMT
What calibre of cover do you expect us to have? Wilmot did a decent job at right back with three centre halves last season. In terms of calibre of cover, I'd be hoping for 'non-terrible', ideally. In terms of a RWB it just shows how negative the mindset is when you can even consider playing a CB there.
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Post by Veritas on Jul 4, 2022 11:46:11 GMT
Hasn't he been through enough lately? Maybe it's PR trying to balance out one of the most warmly perceived players against one of the most hated teams 😁 And what exactly has this got to do with SCFC summer targets?
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Jul 4, 2022 11:47:08 GMT
When’s the Blackburn right back signing it’s a no brainer surely
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 4, 2022 11:47:37 GMT
Maybe it's PR trying to balance out one of the most warmly perceived players against one of the most hated teams 😁 And what exactly has this got to do with SCFC summer targets? This thread has long since been about transfers in general and not just SCFC transfers.
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Post by Goonie on Jul 4, 2022 11:47:45 GMT
Maybe it's PR trying to balance out one of the most warmly perceived players against one of the most hated teams 😁 And what exactly has this got to do with SCFC summer targets? Nowt Just general bollocks In fact most of this thread is general bollocks and speculation though the above is actual fact
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 4, 2022 11:48:43 GMT
In terms of calibre of cover, I'd be hoping for 'non-terrible', ideally. In terms of a RWB it just shows how negative the mindset is when you can even consider playing a CB there. Surely we could just change to a flat back four in the event of an injury/suspension to Clarke? In an ideal world, we’d find a right wing back better than Duhaney who is not upset about sitting on the bench for much of the season. I’d rather the club focus efforts on a good goalkeeper and target man first though than fattening the wage bill on squad players.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 4, 2022 11:50:07 GMT
When’s the Blackburn right back signing it’s a no brainer surely Tomorrow 17:00
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Post by lordb on Jul 4, 2022 11:50:18 GMT
When’s the Blackburn right back signing it’s a no brainer surely he's a free agent but he's an out & out RB, maybe we should sign him anyway but if Clarke isn't available or out of form would still leave us short of RWB cover
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Jul 4, 2022 11:52:00 GMT
When’s the Blackburn right back signing it’s a no brainer surely Tomorrow 17:00 Super can’t wait…
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Jul 4, 2022 11:53:23 GMT
When’s the Blackburn right back signing it’s a no brainer surely he's a free agent but he's an out & out RB, maybe we should sign him anyway but if Clarke isn't available or out of form would still leave us short of RWB cover Yeah Clarke’s a loan this guy got a lot of championship experience for his age solid player
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