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Post by LphPotter on Jun 29, 2022 17:46:29 GMT
Bit concerned none of our signings are midfielders. So much of our problems under MON stem from lack of a plan and personnel in midfield. Any chance of signing someone to pull the strings? Laurent? Agree we need another though |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 29, 2022 17:56:47 GMT
Bit concerned none of our signings are midfielders. So much of our problems under MON stem from lack of a plan and personnel in midfield. Any chance of signing someone to pull the strings? Laurent? Agree we need another though We require a shithouse to get opponents booked and waste time whilst getting sly digs in at their better players😉 |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 29, 2022 18:27:21 GMT
I would imagine Maja & Sawyer's will complete our summer business. Could live with that and a keeper Leaves us way short in terms of forward players we have lost biddace , ince , flètcher without replacement at the top end of the pitch even if we signed both |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 18:32:02 GMT
Could live with that and a keeper Leaves us way short in terms of forward players we have lost biddace , ince , flètcher without replacement at the top end of the pitch even if we signed both True enough. Obviously a lot depends on Campbell and if he is anywhere near the player he was before after pre season. |
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Post by baystokie on Jun 29, 2022 18:37:00 GMT
Could live with that and a keeper Leaves us way short in terms of forward players we have lost biddace , ince , flètcher without replacement at the top end of the pitch even if we signed both We may have some of what you require sitting calmly under the radar - seems to be the new way for us for a change! |
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Post by ontheup on Jun 29, 2022 18:51:58 GMT
Laurent? Agree we need another though We require a shithouse to get opponents booked and waste time whilst getting sly digs in at their better players😉 you've just described Powell |
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Post by Fred Merger on Jun 29, 2022 19:00:55 GMT
Leaves us way short in terms of forward players we have lost biddace , ince , flètcher without replacement at the top end of the pitch even if we signed both We may have some of what you require sitting calmly under the radar - seems to be the new way for us for a change! It may well be that now the Afobe deal has gone through that a couple more low profile deals get pushed through. His wage as well as possibly Etebo's and maybe Clucas's are the ones that will allow us to push on. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 29, 2022 19:01:06 GMT
We require a shithouse to get opponents booked and waste time whilst getting sly digs in at their better players😉 you've just described Powell Yeh but we need someone who doesn’t hate Stoke😉 |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 29, 2022 19:12:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 19:34:27 GMT
If we wrangle this our early business will be astoundingly good. |
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Post by pieofpeter on Jun 29, 2022 19:40:11 GMT
If we wrangle this our early business will be astoundingly good. Agreed and I've actually got a good feeling so far and it's going around the club. Don't know what this is to to with Stoke  |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 29, 2022 19:57:45 GMT
Before a points deduction is applied there is a discussion between the club and the league and as I understand it the penalty is determined by the arguements presented by the club. The league went after Derby big time because they had reason to believe they deliberately tried to game FFP by applying an inappropriate accounting practice. Derby tried to deny it and the rest is history. Derby tried to do what you are proposing - game FFP. It didn't end well. The importance of reputation is down to the importance the person whose reputation is at stake thinks it's worth. You may not put much store by your reputation but the Coates family pride themselves on being responsible, local owners. You might risk that reputation but they won't. You are also making the assumption that players you pay a transfer fee for are inevitably better than those you get on a free. In the light of of our recent history this couldn't be further from the truth. WTF are you going on about Derby got an automatic 12pts deduction for entering administration absolutely nothing to do with FFP. So if they were deliberately trying to game FFP it cost them 9pts which is more than surmountable, Reading got 6pts both sanctions were agreed by negotiation between the clubs and the league. So we're talking a likely difference of 3pts for playing nice. Just not worth not trying to get out in front of any embargo for. Maybe the Coates wouldn't agree thats why they're so rubbish at running a modern football club just not ruthless enough. What your are suggesting they do isn't ruthless - it's reckless and stupid. Derby were hit with an automatic administration deduction because the owners had nowhere to go and baled. They gambled on on gaming the system - which is what you want our owners to do - and the league hounded them down - which is what they would do to us. Your ideas about how to run a football club are insane and if part of my a sales pitch for the job would disqualify you under the fit and proper person test. If you lied about your ideas and got the job the poor unfortunate club subject to your strategy would cease to exist as a going concern. |
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Post by a on Jun 29, 2022 19:59:24 GMT
If we wrangle this our early business will be astoundingly good. Deffo. We desperately need goals though, and although there are no excuses around Campbell this time, and Brown seems to have come good, we need more. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 29, 2022 20:01:36 GMT
Could live with that and a keeper Leaves us way short in terms of forward players we have lost biddace , ince , flètcher without replacement at the top end of the pitch even if we signed both Did Fletcher get his acute accent when he went on loan? Did he do it to make himself appear more exotic? |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 29, 2022 20:07:10 GMT
WTF are you going on about Derby got an automatic 12pts deduction for entering administration absolutely nothing to do with FFP. So if they were deliberately trying to game FFP it cost them 9pts which is more than surmountable, Reading got 6pts both sanctions were agreed by negotiation between the clubs and the league. So we're talking a likely difference of 3pts for playing nice. Just not worth not trying to get out in front of any embargo for. Maybe the Coates wouldn't agree thats why they're so rubbish at running a modern football club just not ruthless enough. What your are suggesting they do isn't ruthless - it's reckless and stupid. Derby were hit with an automatic administration deduction because the owners had nowhere to go and baled. They gambled on on gaming the system - which is what you want our owners to do - and the league hounded them down - which is what they would do to us. Your ideas about how to run a football club are insane and if part of my a sales pitch for the job would disqualify you under the fit and proper person test. If you lied about your ideas and got the job the poor unfortunate club subject to your strategy would cease to exist as a going concern. What utter guff put the Coates in Mel Morris' position and Derby get a 9 pt deduction and stay up. The EFL didn't put Derby into administration. |
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 29, 2022 20:08:07 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jun 29, 2022 20:28:45 GMT
If we wrangle this our early business will be astoundingly good. Deffo. We desperately need goals though, and although there are no excuses around Campbell this time, and Brown seems to have come good, we need more. I suspect Tyrese is going to have an excellent season. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2022 20:33:55 GMT
Deffo. We desperately need goals though, and although there are no excuses around Campbell this time, and Brown seems to have come good, we need more. I suspect Tyrese is going to have an excellent season. Hope you're right but I don't. Hard to judge him on what we saw back of the last one though. He was never the fittest but was desperately out of shape so hopefully will come back leaner and meaner |
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 29, 2022 20:39:46 GMT
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Post by Northy on Jun 29, 2022 20:41:27 GMT
I suspect Tyrese is going to have an excellent season. Hope you're right but I don't. Hard to judge him on what we saw back of the last one though. He was never the fittest but was desperately out of shape so hopefully will come back leaner and meaner He looks it on the training videos |
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Post by northernstokie on Jun 29, 2022 20:41:42 GMT
If we wrangle this our early business will be astoundingly good. Deffo. We desperately need goals though, and although there are no excuses around Campbell this time, and Brown seems to have come good, we need more. I'm hoping we have a striker lined up after we get a cut from the Collins deal. |
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Post by lancashirelad on Jun 29, 2022 21:18:35 GMT
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Post by melbournepotter on Jun 29, 2022 22:32:14 GMT
Deffo. We desperately need goals though, and although there are no excuses around Campbell this time, and Brown seems to have come good, we need more. I'm hoping we have a striker lined up after we get a cut from the Collins deal. I'm wondering if that is possibly the key to the quality of forward we are looking at. If we get a cut from the sale, then we may be able to afford a modest fee to bring in a better quality player. Although as we have seen recently unfortunately, quality does not always align with cost where we are concerned. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 30, 2022 7:41:41 GMT
What your are suggesting they do isn't ruthless - it's reckless and stupid. Derby were hit with an automatic administration deduction because the owners had nowhere to go and baled. They gambled on on gaming the system - which is what you want our owners to do - and the league hounded them down - which is what they would do to us. Your ideas about how to run a football club are insane and if part of my a sales pitch for the job would disqualify you under the fit and proper person test. If you lied about your ideas and got the job the poor unfortunate club subject to your strategy would cease to exist as a going concern. What utter guff put the Coates in Mel Morris' position and Derby get a 9 pt deduction and stay up. The EFL didn't put Derby into administration.  Mel Morris knew the game was up and got out taking Derby into administration. The league will hound out any owner who deliberately tries to game FFP and if a club continued to behave that way other clubs would sue them - which is what also happened to Derby. If you think a club can simply brazen out a breach of FFP by just chucking money at the problem - and thereby make the breach worse - you really are delusional. The thing is Coates wouldn't put himself in Mel Morris's position because he's a responsible owner. Morris proved himself unfit for the job. You are suggesting we employ someone who would fail the fit and proper person test and in a previous post even said that was how Coates would behave if we were threatened with a points deduction. You really need to check in with the real world occasionally. |
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Post by etebojan on Jun 30, 2022 8:11:24 GMT
More announcements today can we dream?, as all the June 30th contracts expire, or more likely tomorrow?
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 30, 2022 8:20:09 GMT
Scared of Aden Flint. Says it all really. Does he say scared? Or did you make that up too? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2022 8:25:03 GMT
Scared of Aden Flint. Says it all really. Does he say scared? Or did you make that up too? If you hate playing against someone and seeing them in the team, I would suggest you're scared yes. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 30, 2022 8:32:23 GMT
Does he say scared? Or did you make that up too? If you hate playing against someone and seeing them in the team, I would suggest you're scared yes. Yep. You made it up. |
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Post by Northy on Jun 30, 2022 8:32:37 GMT
Does he say scared? Or did you make that up too? If you hate playing against someone and seeing them in the team, I would suggest you're scared yes. I hate Arsenal, doesn't mean I'm scared of them. I hated playing some teams, but wasn't scared, just a different problem to overcome. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Jun 30, 2022 8:36:23 GMT
Bit concerned none of our signings are midfielders. So much of our problems under MON stem from lack of a plan and personnel in midfield. Any chance of signing someone to pull the strings? Laurent? Agree we need another though I'm wondering if with yesterday's signing we're perhaps thinking of playing Tymon in midfield? Good engine for box to box, can see a pass and tackle. |
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