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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2022 20:01:23 GMT
Yeah it’s a question and you’ve not provided an answer to it. He’s been earning 50k a week for 6 years. The club has gone backwards in his time here. The first chance we offer a wage in keeping with the level he’s playing at he fucks off. What is there to respect? What he earns has nothing to do with anything. You don't know he's left because of money. He's unlikely to earn much more elsewhere. I wouldn't imagine he feels appreciated here, would you? I said respect on a human level. Criticism is fine but comments like thank f**k he's gone, worst signing in the club's history, it's a great day for the club and many, many more are just not warranted. I will say no more on the matter. They are fine. Why wouldn’t people be happy that such a bad thing for something they love has gone? It’s a wonderful day.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2022 20:13:54 GMT
What he earns has nothing to do with anything. You don't know he's left because of money. He's unlikely to earn much more elsewhere. I wouldn't imagine he feels appreciated here, would you? I said respect on a human level. Criticism is fine but comments like thank f**k he's gone, worst signing in the club's history, it's a great day for the club and many, many more are just not warranted. I will say no more on the matter. They are fine. Why wouldn’t people be happy that such a bad thing for something they love has gone? It’s a wonderful day. We are now desperate for probably two midfield signings at least. We are suddenly threadbare in that department. I wish Joe Allen well, he always put a shift in but has been massively overrated throughout his entire career. No bad feelings toward him at all but thank god he’s gone!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2022 20:20:15 GMT
They are fine. Why wouldn’t people be happy that such a bad thing for something they love has gone? It’s a wonderful day. We are now desperate for probably two midfield signings at least. We are suddenly threadbare in that department. I wish Joe Allen well, he always put a shift in but has been massively overrated throughout his entire career. No bad feelings toward him at all but thank god he’s gone! Which is good. Tbh I didn’t want us to keep any of the midfield from last season bar Powell.
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Post by neddy on Jun 24, 2022 20:21:23 GMT
Good luck Joe….that’s all?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 24, 2022 20:22:36 GMT
We are now desperate for probably two midfield signings at least. We are suddenly threadbare in that department. I wish Joe Allen well, he always put a shift in but has been massively overrated throughout his entire career. No bad feelings toward him at all but thank god he’s gone! Which is good. Tbh I didn’t want us to keep any of the midfield from last season bar Powell. You don’t rate Baker? He’s mustard!
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 24, 2022 20:23:10 GMT
Joe will be sorely missed. He’s been loyal to the club, a player who wants the ball and still has an engine and a great football brain!! If you don’t agree try watching football you might learn a thing or two!!!!!!! He was very loyal when a contract was on the table removing the relegation wage drop. As soon as a Championship contract offer landed on the table he's gone. I guess he’s told you this himself as he!!!!!!
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Post by a on Jun 24, 2022 20:25:41 GMT
Which is good. Tbh I didn’t want us to keep any of the midfield from last season bar Powell. You don’t rate Baker? He’s mustard! 😂 nah he must be shit, get rid!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2022 20:30:13 GMT
Which is good. Tbh I didn’t want us to keep any of the midfield from last season bar Powell. You don’t rate Baker? He’s mustard! I forgot about him 😂🤦♂️
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Post by a on Jun 24, 2022 20:37:21 GMT
You don’t rate Baker? He’s mustard! I forgot about him 😂🤦♂️ 🫠 oh dear
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Post by peterpan1 on Jun 24, 2022 20:49:36 GMT
You just know he'll score against us if he lands at Swansea.......Apologies if its already been mentioned 🙄
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Post by dastokie on Jun 24, 2022 21:27:27 GMT
Just been thinking of all the games he was head and shoulders above everyone else, how he caressed the ball, pin point passing short or long,amazing finishing ability. Thank you Pirlo for all the great memories. No other word than unbelievable. Then I remembered the odd couple of bad moments. How are we going to cope without him.
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Post by silverdollar on Jun 24, 2022 21:52:42 GMT
So I am right. You don't know what correlate means! I do. Us being shit has a lot to do with not having a midfield in those 6 years. It's not a coincidence all of that happened since Allen arrived. Bayern sadly you have it all wrong! You have an agenda and you are looking for statistics to fit your agenda. So you select all the awful statistics and blame them on one player. Yes it must be Allen! You use your biased perceived conclusion and say o yes that fits the bill. Nonsense!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 24, 2022 21:55:08 GMT
I do. Us being shit has a lot to do with not having a midfield in those 6 years. It's not a coincidence all of that happened since Allen arrived. Bayern sadly you have it all wrong! You have an agenda and you are looking for statistics to fit your agenda. So you select all the awful statistics and blame them on one player. Yes it must be Allen! You use your biased perceived conclusion and say o yes that fits the bill. Nonsense! He’s the one consistent thing in that time. A time we haven’t had a midfield. He’s been an awful player for us and won’t be missed.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 24, 2022 22:05:49 GMT
Bayern sadly you have it all wrong! You have an agenda and you are looking for statistics to fit your agenda. So you select all the awful statistics and blame them on one player. Yes it must be Allen! You use your biased perceived conclusion and say o yes that fits the bill. Nonsense! He’s the one consistent thing in that time. A time we haven’t had a midfield. He’s been an awful player for us and won’t be missed. I suspect by November that may prove not to be the case
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 22:17:28 GMT
Sad how this board that should unify people of the same interest becomes so viciously divisive at times. Sometimes I wonder whether this board really does more harm than good and the use of its existence. I wouldn’t overthink it. We’re not some non-league club with 100 supporters. There’s a lot of us with an infinite array of personalities and worldviews; we’re not a political club after all. The point of this MB is a forum for everyone to have a free place to air their opinions. Conflict isn’t something to fear it’s just part of the process.
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Post by generationex on Jun 24, 2022 22:22:28 GMT
You should have seen what it was like when Tony Pulis was delivering the most successful team in 40 years!
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jun 24, 2022 22:26:51 GMT
Sad how this board that should unify people of the same interest becomes so viciously divisive at times. Sometimes I wonder whether this board really does more harm than good and the use of its existence. Well said Sir
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 22:47:39 GMT
Genuinely excited for next season after this glorious news.
Anyone who doesn't see this as a positive step for the club needs to give their head a big wobble.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 24, 2022 23:15:40 GMT
Yes he deserves to be in that group, terrible signing. Completely disagree. There is a strange criticism of him. Ok so he was at the club when we went down, but that doesn’t make him the biggest culprit. We’ll see how incredible we become now he’s gone anyway. Although I suspect we’ll see a continue of our malaise. Well we didn't miss him when he was out injured, he was easily covered by Cousins. I'm not suggesting he was the biggest culprit, just one of them, its not his fault he was signed over what was needed but his wages have gone on to pretty much cripple the club, among others, and with very little in compensation on the pitch.
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Post by a on Jun 25, 2022 7:20:13 GMT
Completely disagree. There is a strange criticism of him. Ok so he was at the club when we went down, but that doesn’t make him the biggest culprit. We’ll see how incredible we become now he’s gone anyway. Although I suspect we’ll see a continue of our malaise. Well we didn't miss him when he was out injured, he was easily covered by Cousins. I'm not suggesting he was the biggest culprit, just one of them, its not his fault he was signed over what was needed but his wages have gone on to pretty much cripple the club, among others, and with very little in compensation on the pitch. Again tho those things aren’t his fault. You can criticise his impact maybe but his arrival wasn’t the cause of our demise. His wages aren’t his fault either. I wouldn’t take a pay cut when my career only lasts maybe 12-14 years, who would?! The hatred he gets on here is pathetic to be honest.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 25, 2022 7:22:58 GMT
Well we didn't miss him when he was out injured, he was easily covered by Cousins. I'm not suggesting he was the biggest culprit, just one of them, its not his fault he was signed over what was needed but his wages have gone on to pretty much cripple the club, among others, and with very little in compensation on the pitch. Again tho those things aren’t his fault. You can criticise his impact maybe but his arrival wasn’t the cause of our demise. His wages aren’t his fault either. I wouldn’t take a pay cut when my career only lasts maybe 12-14 years, who would?! The hatred he gets on here is pathetic to be honest. It was. Hughes watched Wales in the summer of 2016 and he saw how they played and wanted a bit of that for us. We turned to a back 3 and signed Allen. It’s a massive part of it. And literally his best game at the Brit was when we beat Liverpool 6-1.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jun 25, 2022 7:23:44 GMT
Well we didn't miss him when he was out injured, he was easily covered by Cousins. I'm not suggesting he was the biggest culprit, just one of them, its not his fault he was signed over what was needed but his wages have gone on to pretty much cripple the club, among others, and with very little in compensation on the pitch. Again tho those things aren’t his fault. You can criticise his impact maybe but his arrival wasn’t the cause of our demise. His wages aren’t his fault either. I wouldn’t take a pay cut when my career only lasts maybe 12-14 years, who would?! The hatred he gets on here is pathetic to be honest. Those things aren’t his fault no. His overall lack of consistency given what we paid for him, his inability over six years to really come close to what we needed in midfield, that’s on him.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 25, 2022 7:29:19 GMT
Well we didn't miss him when he was out injured, he was easily covered by Cousins. I'm not suggesting he was the biggest culprit, just one of them, its not his fault he was signed over what was needed but his wages have gone on to pretty much cripple the club, among others, and with very little in compensation on the pitch. Again tho those things aren’t his fault. You can criticise his impact maybe but his arrival wasn’t the cause of our demise. His wages aren’t his fault either. I wouldn’t take a pay cut when my career only lasts maybe 12-14 years, who would?! The hatred he gets on here is pathetic to be honest. It was a decent part of it tbf.
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Post by st3mark on Jun 25, 2022 7:31:15 GMT
Really glad to have Joe off the wage bill.
His negatives - he was earning £57k per week, he can't pass further than 6 yards, can't shoot, zero strength, can't win headers, gives daft free kicks away.
His positives - doesn't let his poor form affect his attitude, always gives his all, good stamina, wants the ball, tackles and hassles the other team.
It isn't a lot for £57k a week is it really?
Good professional who has had some decent spells of form. The club seems to have had a bit of a jinx over the last 6 years though which coincides with his entire time here. All the best to Joe but let's hope turn a corner now too.
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 25, 2022 8:57:08 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 25, 2022 9:00:15 GMT
The months of begging worked. Top work from his agents.
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Post by kustokie on Jun 25, 2022 11:14:54 GMT
You're worse than my mother in law who is 97 and has dementia. You can't do any sensible reasoning with her either. 9th 9th 9th *Joe Allen arrives* 13th 19th Relegated Championship wilderness for 4 years Correlation does not equate to cause and effect. There were other factors, most notably Hughes who was responsible for signing Alllen based on his performance at the Euros. However, that wasn’t his biggest mistake in the transfer market let alone his failure to deliver one pitch. I am not an apologist for Allen, and I agree with you it was not a good signing, but it was just one on many such as Jesse, Wollscheidt, Shea, Imbula to name a few who were much worse.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 25, 2022 11:16:25 GMT
9th 9th 9th *Joe Allen arrives* 13th 19th Relegated Championship wilderness for 4 years Correlation does not equate to cause and effect. There were other factors, most notably Hughes who was responsible for signing Alllen based on his performance at the Euros. However, that wasn’t his biggest mistake in the transfer market let alone his failure to deliver one pitch. I am not an apologist for Allen, and I agree with you it was not a good signing, but it was just one on many such as Jesse, Wollscheidt, Shea, Imbula to name a few who were much worse. But he has played the most in that time. An average of 35 games per season. He is a cause of some of that. Especially as we haven’t had a midfield in that time.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 25, 2022 12:47:28 GMT
The months of begging worked. Top work from his agents. Good for him homelife should always come first. Employment is just a method of funding it.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 25, 2022 12:53:05 GMT
9th 9th 9th *Joe Allen arrives* 13th 19th Relegated Championship wilderness for 4 years Correlation does not equate to cause and effect. There were other factors, most notably Hughes who was responsible for signing Alllen based on his performance at the Euros. However, that wasn’t his biggest mistake in the transfer market let alone his failure to deliver one pitch. I am not an apologist for Allen, and I agree with you it was not a good signing, but it was just one on many such as Jesse, Wollscheidt, Shea, Imbula to name a few who were much worse. They might have been worse but caused less damage on the pitch. Take out Wolly and it's a question if they have 25 appearances between them. Wolly's period in the team was fairly successful whether you thought he was any good or not. The longer you leave an ill fitting part in your engine the more damage it will do.
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