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Post by Robo10 on Jun 26, 2022 21:35:46 GMT
Dont get the hate for Wollscheid
We had a good record when he played, gloves or strange hand position included.
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Post by LphPotter on Jun 26, 2022 22:04:25 GMT
Dont get the hate for Wollscheid We had a good record when he played, gloves or strange hand position included. Always liked him and that performance in the league cup semi at Anfield was unbelievable. The stick he got was ridiculous and you could tell from his early retirement and statement after it that he was never able to really cope with the stick he got. Disappointing really as he was a solid defender.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 26, 2022 22:11:57 GMT
Respect for.taking a PL wage from.our club but when offered a championship wage because we need cut costs he fucks off? Yeah let's respect him đ What is it with Stoke fans and being obsessed with what their own players earn? Absolute embarrassing post. Because a player earning double the amount of the next bloke at the club should be one of the better players.
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 26, 2022 22:27:38 GMT
What is it with Stoke fans and being obsessed with what their own players earn? Absolute embarrassing post. Because a player earning double the amount of the next bloke at the club should be one of the better players. In my experience major disparity in relative weekly pay within a team/group can cause morale issues too.
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Post by Championship Potter on Jun 26, 2022 22:33:34 GMT
Imho Baker and Allen were a good fit Baker's one bad game was when Allen wasn't playing and he was asked to 'hold' Allen was much more positonally disciplined with Baker playing They trusted each other it was obvious. However Laurent looks a good fit, lots of energy which Baker, and Powell, will need to allow them to get forward Happy if Sawyers signs but not if he's played behind those two as that didn't work at all Thompson Baker Powell might work too but he doesn't bring the running Laurent will Think if he was 3 years younger the decision to keep him would have been a no brainer. He earned his shirt last season and him and Baker clicked straight away. As it is, heâs 32 and on massive wages. We could easily be stuck in a situation like with Darren Fletcher, were we had a complete liability of a player as soon as his legs went.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 26, 2022 22:35:24 GMT
Because a player earning double the amount of the next bloke at the club should be one of the better players. In my experience major disparity in relative weekly pay within a team/group can cause morale issues too. Definitely. And weâre a club who have to make every penny count with ffp. Wages matter. Every fan should be worried about that.
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jun 27, 2022 8:26:30 GMT
In my experience major disparity in relative weekly pay within a team/group can cause morale issues too. Definitely. And weâre a club who have to make every penny count with ffp. Wages matter. Every fan should be worried about that. The suggestion that a post focusing on wages is embarrassing is utterly baffling. The payroll is finite, and what we pay an individual for his/her contribution is fundamental. The same goes for any organisation, but FFP makes it critical for a football club - and that's without the dressing room morale issues, which someone notes above. It's not Joe Allen's fault that he managed to negotiate the contract he did. Good luck to him. In fact, with Liverpool on his CV, I imagine that was the market rate. But he has simply not been good value for money. And (in my view) keeping him (even on a reduced contract) would have been the polar opposite of looking to the future. Plus I don't get the posts that somehow take offence at that view. Just who is offended? Almost without exception, those that think it's time to move on have remarked on Joe's work-rate, observed that he seems a very decent human being, and wished him well. I am sure Joe himself pores over every word on this Board - and comforts himself at the heartless comments by counting his dosh and looking forward to the next stage in his career.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 27, 2022 8:33:28 GMT
In my experience major disparity in relative weekly pay within a team/group can cause morale issues too. Definitely. And weâre a club who have to make every penny count with ffp. Wages matter. Every fan should be worried about that. "You alright son you haven't touched any of your dinner" "I'm worried about the wages Stoke are paying their players against a backdrop of FFP sanctions"
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 27, 2022 9:00:39 GMT
What is it with Stoke fans and being obsessed with what their own players earn? Absolute embarrassing post. Because a player earning double the amount of the next bloke at the club should be one of the better players. His career suggests he is one of the better players, he just hasn't shown it in a Stoke shirt. He came to us in the PL and negotiated a PL contract. He probably took a reduction to come just to play football (a guess, could be wrong) Any professional football club will have a large disparity between wages. It's another stick to beat him with.
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Post by scfc75 on Jun 27, 2022 9:05:38 GMT
Because a player earning double the amount of the next bloke at the club should be one of the better players. His career suggests he is one of the better players, he just hasn't shown it in a Stoke shirt. He came to us in the PL and negotiated a PL contract. He probably took a reduction to come just to play football (a guess, could be wrong) Any professional football club will have a large disparity between wages. It's another stick to beat him with. Youâd expect to see some of our fans who are concerned about pay, also lobbying for our lower paid better performers to get pay rises. Weird that thereâs never been a âxxxx player deserves a pay riseâ threadâŚ
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 27, 2022 11:41:26 GMT
Because a player earning double the amount of the next bloke at the club should be one of the better players. His career suggests he is one of the better players, he just hasn't shown it in a Stoke shirt. He came to us in the PL and negotiated a PL contract. He probably took a reduction to come just to play football (a guess, could be wrong) Any professional football club will have a large disparity between wages. It's another stick to beat him with. I'm not that arsed about his career tbh. When he was given his new deal it was 2 years after he had signed. He signed a new contract in the Championship on PL money. Yes a failure from the club and I don't blame him for signing it but it's still been a issue.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 2, 2022 18:49:11 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62024199Flynn Downes set for Crystal Palace move as Swansea City close in on Joe AllenSounds like Swansea will push through the Allen move as soon as Downes is sold.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 2, 2022 18:57:10 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62024199Flynn Downes set for Crystal Palace move as Swansea City close in on Joe AllenSounds like Swansea will push through the Allen move as soon as Downes is sold. So Joe is choosing Swansea over all the Prem sides that were interested
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Post by insideright on Jul 2, 2022 19:30:34 GMT
Joe Allen won't improve a shit Swansea team!
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 2, 2022 19:45:17 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62024199Flynn Downes set for Crystal Palace move as Swansea City close in on Joe AllenSounds like Swansea will push through the Allen move as soon as Downes is sold. So Joe is choosing Swansea over all the Prem sides that were interested Thatâs a clever remark especially liked by a ultracrepidarian
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jul 2, 2022 20:01:28 GMT
I feel a bit sorry for Swansea, I think they think theyâre getting an absolute gem.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 2, 2022 20:56:02 GMT
I feel a bit sorry for Swansea, I think they think theyâre getting an absolute gem. This is Stoke see surridge right now the smart money is on Boro , Swansea and Sheffield United to get promoted with smith , Allen and Davies as star men đ
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2022 21:31:13 GMT
All the best for your future Joe, even though you'll never read this.
A player who, whilst surrounded by an absolute myriad of shithouses never gave anything other than 100% for this football club.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jul 2, 2022 21:44:19 GMT
All the best for your future Joe, even though you'll never read this. A player who, whilst surrounded by an absolute myriad of shithouses never gave anything other than 100% for this football club. âŹď¸
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 2, 2022 22:24:53 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62024199Flynn Downes set for Crystal Palace move as Swansea City close in on Joe AllenSounds like Swansea will push through the Allen move as soon as Downes is sold. He gets his move in the end then.
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Post by southstanddan on Jul 2, 2022 22:50:01 GMT
Donât you lot all start pretending to miss him after slagging him off for years like Bardsley, Pieters and Whelan
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Post by pushon on Jul 2, 2022 22:52:44 GMT
All the best for your future Joe, even though you'll never read this. A player who, whilst surrounded by an absolute myriad of shithouses never gave anything other than 100% for this football club. Well said, there appear to be a myriad of posters on here, who have little appreciation of a top player. There were seasons when he had to be the complete midfielder, fighting fires all around the pitch. Stoke were fortunate to have such a player, when they most needed one.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jul 2, 2022 23:19:27 GMT
The greatest thing about the old Oatie is, if you get 5 people together, they will find 6 different reasons forâŚ.well anything.
One manâs Zonz was another manâs five foot square pass, lather, rinse, repeat.
One manâs Joe âcovered every inch of grassâ was another manâs âran round like a baby springer spaniel chasing a balloonâ*
*I have âtrainedâ springers. Trust me on this analogy.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 3, 2022 7:19:31 GMT
All the best for your future Joe, even though you'll never read this. A player who, whilst surrounded by an absolute myriad of shithouses never gave anything other than 100% for this football club. Well said, there appear to be a myriad of posters on here, who have little appreciation of a top player. There were seasons when he had to be the complete midfielder, fighting fires all around the pitch. Stoke were fortunate to have such a player, when they most needed one. He wasnât a âtop playerâ for us though, even by his own admission at times. In what sense was he the complete midfielder? He was neither fish nor fowl, he didnât offer us protection off the ball and he didnât create much either.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jul 3, 2022 12:37:41 GMT
Well said, there appear to be a myriad of posters on here, who have little appreciation of a top player. There were seasons when he had to be the complete midfielder, fighting fires all around the pitch. Stoke were fortunate to have such a player, when they most needed one. He wasnât a âtop playerâ for us though, even by his own admission at times. In what sense was he the complete midfielder? He was neither fish nor fowl, he didnât offer us protection off the ball and he didnât create much either. Thatâs about it for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 13:30:59 GMT
All the best for your future Joe, even though you'll never read this. A player who, whilst surrounded by an absolute myriad of shithouses never gave anything other than 100% for this football club. Well said, there appear to be a myriad of posters on here, who have little appreciation of a top player. There were seasons when he had to be the complete midfielder, fighting fires all around the pitch. Stoke were fortunate to have such a player, when they most needed one. Top player? The only thing he was top of was the wage bill.
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Post by wherty on Jul 3, 2022 13:37:40 GMT
All the best for your future Joe, even though you'll never read this. A player who, whilst surrounded by an absolute myriad of shithouses never gave anything other than 100% for this football club. You never know who's reading. đ
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 13:40:32 GMT
Donât you lot all start pretending to miss him after slagging him off for years like Bardsley, Pieters and Whelan The same few slagging him off for every ball he played isn't 'you lot' to be fair.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 7, 2022 13:17:19 GMT
www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/joe-allen-travelling-swansea-city-24426148Joe Allen is set to undergo a medical at Swansea City on Friday ahead of a stunning return to his boyhood club.
The impending sale of Flynn Downes to West Ham United means Swansea are now in a position to re-sign midfielder Allen - who left south Wales to join Liverpool 10 years ago.
It's understood Allen will travel to Swansea on Thursday evening with a view to completing the formalities and paperwork ahead of a return to the club he joined as a schoolboy. It comes after the 32-year-old rejected a new contract at Stoke City. He could be in contention to feature in Tuesday's pre-season clash with Plymouth Argyle at Home Park.
Bristol City are among the second tier sides who showed an interest in Allen, although they were unable to put a suitable package together.
Spanish outfit RCD Mallorca are understood to have put an offer on the table for Allen, although he is now expected to sign a two-year deal at Swansea ahead of the 2022/23 season.
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Post by datguy on Jul 8, 2022 1:08:21 GMT
Mallorca, Bristol City and Swansea.
Blimey.
Iâm sure folk on here said heâd go back to the Premier League âŚ
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