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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jun 22, 2024 20:55:37 GMT
I've seen some genuinely thick posts on here but seeing the suggestion of putting Saka at LWB is right up there. He's been arguably our most dangerous player so let's not only take him from the right side and put him on the left, let's also stick him in a completely different role. A role that he's never played in his career. Fucking hell fire 😂 He's played for England at LWB before However taking him away from the right is definitely a negative I can’t see how we can change the side without taking something away from at least one player though Can we make the team better despite that (?) When? He doesn't play there regularly for Arsenal so he shouldn't ever be considered in that position at an international level. For me, I think we're fucked balance wise thanks to Southgate only taking an injured Shaw as a natural LB. He should've taken Mitchell and/or Chilwell just incase. My lineup would be.. Pickford Walker Guehi Stones Gomez Rice Bellingham Saka Foden Gordon Kane And tell Kane the moment he drops deep he gets subbed off because I think it hinders us. If Foden doesn't perform then Palmer comes in.
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Post by lordb on Jun 22, 2024 20:59:30 GMT
He's played for England at LWB before However taking him away from the right is definitely a negative I can’t see how we can change the side without taking something away from at least one player though Can we make the team better despite that (?) When? He doesn't play there regularly for Arsenal so he shouldn't ever be considered in that position at an international level. For me, I think we're fucked balance wise thanks to Southgate only taking an injured Shaw as a natural LB. He should've taken Mitchell and/or Chilwell just incase. My lineup would be.. Pickford Walker Guehi Stones Gomez Rice Bellingham Saka Foden Gordon Kane And tell Kane the moment he drops deep he gets subbed off because I think it hinders us. If Foden doesn't perform then Palmer comes in. At the last Euros and before It's definitely not a great solution but it's no more rubbish than Gomez at left back - steady Eddie defender but he offers even less than Trippier going forward Tbh I'm expecting him to just bring Gallagher in which I think we can all agree is wank
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jun 22, 2024 21:10:03 GMT
If we can’t find someone who can threaten from the left and get ahead of Kane ( like Sterling used to) then I think Watkins has to come in.
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Post by smallthorner on Jun 22, 2024 21:11:34 GMT
My pick for next match. 3-4-1-2 ............Pickford............. .....Walker..Stones...Guehi........ Trippier..Bellingham..Rice....Saka ............Palmer................ .......Watkins......Toney.......... Wide options with Saka left. Trippier in natural position. Security for Stones to get into midfield. I've seen some genuinely thick posts on here but seeing the suggestion of putting Saka at LWB is right up there. He's been arguably our most dangerous player so let's not only take him from the right side and put him on the left, let's also stick him in a completely different role. A role that he's never played in his career. Fucking hell fire 😂 No need for the abuse matey. He has played there. In the absence of a left footed LWB or LB do you suggest persevering with the totally out of place Trippier there? You are so smart then give me your preferred team pick for Tuesday.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jun 22, 2024 21:18:49 GMT
I've seen some genuinely thick posts on here but seeing the suggestion of putting Saka at LWB is right up there. He's been arguably our most dangerous player so let's not only take him from the right side and put him on the left, let's also stick him in a completely different role. A role that he's never played in his career. Fucking hell fire 😂 No need for the abuse matey. He has played there. In the absence of a left footed LWB or LB do you suggest persevering with the totally out of place Trippier there? You are so smart then give me your preferred team pick for Tuesday. I haven't abused you at all. It's a genuinely thick idea to move Saka from his natural position where he's been one of our only bright sparks to a completely different position and a completely different role. It's either Trippier or Gomez for me but that glosses over the key issue of Southgate not taking a LB. I'd have taken Mitchell and/or Chilwell. And thank you for saying I'm so smart 😂
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Post by Davef on Jun 22, 2024 21:21:29 GMT
No need for the abuse matey. He has played there. In the absence of a left footed LWB or LB do you suggest persevering with the totally out of place Trippier there? You are so smart then give me your preferred team pick for Tuesday. I haven't abused you at all. It's a genuinely thick idea to move Saka from his natural position where he's been one of our only bright sparks to a completely different position and a completely different role. It's either Trippier or Gomez for me but that glosses over the key issue of Southgate not taking a LB. I'd have taken Mitchell and/or Chilwell. And thank you for saying I'm so smart 😂 Southgate has taken a left back. The fucker can't walk, but hey ho.
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Post by smallthorner on Jun 22, 2024 21:23:26 GMT
No need for the abuse matey. He has played there. In the absence of a left footed LWB or LB do you suggest persevering with the totally out of place Trippier there? You are so smart then give me your preferred team pick for Tuesday. I haven't abused you at all. It's a genuinely thick idea to move Saka from his natural position where he's been one of our only bright sparks to a completely different position and a completely different role. It's either Trippier or Gomez for me but that glosses over the key issue of Southgate not taking a LB. I'd have taken Mitchell and/or Chilwell. And thank you for saying I'm so smart 😂 "Glosses over the key issue" My suggestion doesn't gloss over the stupid decision... it could solve it. You suggestion will only compound it. Name your team.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 22, 2024 21:24:05 GMT
Up until this tournament, I recall Lineker et al applauding the fact that Southgate has never listened to the critics and done his own thing. If he continues doing that here, we’ll be home in just over a week. Whatever happens, I can’t see any of our games being enjoyable, we are just there to stifle and bore our way through, which is criminal given what we could be doing.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jun 22, 2024 21:30:01 GMT
I haven't abused you at all. It's a genuinely thick idea to move Saka from his natural position where he's been one of our only bright sparks to a completely different position and a completely different role. It's either Trippier or Gomez for me but that glosses over the key issue of Southgate not taking a LB. I'd have taken Mitchell and/or Chilwell. And thank you for saying I'm so smart 😂 "Glosses over the key issue" My suggestion doesn't gloss over the stupid decision... it could solve it. You suggestion will only compound it. Name your team. I've named it if you could be arsed to scroll up. Playing a RW at LWB doesn't solve it at all. It's creates a brand new problem and compounds it even further.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jun 22, 2024 21:31:14 GMT
I haven't abused you at all. It's a genuinely thick idea to move Saka from his natural position where he's been one of our only bright sparks to a completely different position and a completely different role. It's either Trippier or Gomez for me but that glosses over the key issue of Southgate not taking a LB. I'd have taken Mitchell and/or Chilwell. And thank you for saying I'm so smart 😂 Southgate has taken a left back. The fucker can't walk, but hey ho. A fair point Dave 😂
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Post by sticky on Jun 22, 2024 21:33:38 GMT
Well if this is his last tournament, and we go out playing like we have been doing, then it’s certainly going to impact his future employment options. He seems an intelligent man so I’m hoping he’ll learn and adjust. I don’t think the LB issue needs to be as big as people make out so long as the rest of the team are allowed to play with more attacking intent
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Post by lordb on Jun 22, 2024 21:34:14 GMT
"Glosses over the key issue" My suggestion doesn't gloss over the stupid decision... it could solve it. You suggestion will only compound it. Name your team. I've named it if you could be arsed to scroll up. Playing a RW at LWB doesn't solve it at all. It's creates a brand new problem and compounds it even further. No one team solves it as something has to be sacrificed 4 at the back means someone playing left back who will offer nothing going forward 3 at the back means playing someone out of position at LWB best option in that scenario is Saka which is painful but means Palmer can come in as inside right with Foden inside left and TAA at RWB Don’t like it But I don't like any suggested line up I've seen
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Post by Davef on Jun 22, 2024 21:40:24 GMT
Well if this is his last tournament, and we go out playing like we have been doing, then it’s certainly going to impact his future employment options. He seems an intelligent man so I’m hoping he’ll learn and adjust. I do t the LB issue needs to be as big as people make out so long as the rest of the team are allowed to play with more attacking intent The left back issue is a massive problem because it's restricting Foden's impact. He took responsibility and involved himself more in the game in the last five to ten minutes of the first half on Thursday and should really have laid on a gilt edged chance for Kane instead of shooting himself. He was obviously told to keep his shape in the second half because he contributed nothing remotely close to what he did at the end of the first half.
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Post by smallthorner on Jun 22, 2024 21:40:25 GMT
"Glosses over the key issue" My suggestion doesn't gloss over the stupid decision... it could solve it. You suggestion will only compound it. Name your team. I've named it if you could be arsed to scroll up. Playing a RW at LWB doesn't solve it at all. It's creates a brand new problem and compounds it even further. You'd play Gomez at left back? Now that is fucking insane 😳 😍
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jun 22, 2024 21:46:28 GMT
I've named it if you could be arsed to scroll up. Playing a RW at LWB doesn't solve it at all. It's creates a brand new problem and compounds it even further. You'd play Gomez at left back? Now that is fucking insane 😳 😍 It's far less insane than playing Saka at LWB and switching to 5 at the back. At least Gomez has actually played games at LB.
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Post by Davef on Jun 22, 2024 21:47:16 GMT
I've named it if you could be arsed to scroll up. Playing a RW at LWB doesn't solve it at all. It's creates a brand new problem and compounds it even further. You'd play Gomez at left back? Now that is fucking insane 😳 😍 How is playing Gomez, who has played at right back for most of his Liverpool career, at left back any more insane than playing Trippier, who has played at right back for most of his career at Burnley and Newcastle, in that position ?
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Post by smallthorner on Jun 22, 2024 21:48:01 GMT
He's played for England at LWB before However taking him away from the right is definitely a negative I can’t see how we can change the side without taking something away from at least one player though Can we make the team better despite that (?) When? He doesn't play there regularly for Arsenal so he shouldn't ever be considered in that position at an international level. For me, I think we're fucked balance wise thanks to Southgate only taking an injured Shaw as a natural LB. He should've taken Mitchell and/or Chilwell just incase. My lineup would be.. Pickford Walker Guehi Stones Gomez Rice Bellingham Saka Foden Gordon Kane And tell Kane the moment he drops deep he gets subbed off because I think it hinders us. If Foden doesn't perform then Palmer comes in. Kane dropping deep is part of Southgates game plan. The problem is he isn't fit and there is nobody like Rashford to play in front of him.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jun 22, 2024 21:49:38 GMT
I've named it if you could be arsed to scroll up. Playing a RW at LWB doesn't solve it at all. It's creates a brand new problem and compounds it even further. No one team solves it as something has to be sacrificed 4 at the back means someone playing left back who will offer nothing going forward 3 at the back means playing someone out of position at LWB best option in that scenario is Saka which is painful but means Palmer can come in as inside right with Foden inside left and TAA at RWB Don’t like it But I don't like any suggested line up I've seen Saka is not a LWB and the suggestion of playing him there shouldn't be given any time of day. Foden isn't an inside left either so there's a second player out of position. You're right about there not being a lineup that we don't like though. That's down to Southgate not taking Mitchell/Chilwell, we saw the impact Stevens had when he came back because he brought balance to the lineup.
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Post by smallthorner on Jun 22, 2024 21:50:34 GMT
You'd play Gomez at left back? Now that is fucking insane 😳 😍 How is playing Gomez, who has played at right back for most of his Liverpool career, at left back any more insane than playing Trippier, who has played at right back for most of his career at Burnley and Newcastle, in that position ? Few dozen caps and experience. Trippier is out of position of course but putting Gomez there is like swapping Sunak for Truss.
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Post by lordb on Jun 22, 2024 22:01:35 GMT
No one team solves it as something has to be sacrificed 4 at the back means someone playing left back who will offer nothing going forward 3 at the back means playing someone out of position at LWB best option in that scenario is Saka which is painful but means Palmer can come in as inside right with Foden inside left and TAA at RWB Don’t like it But I don't like any suggested line up I've seen Saka is not a LWB and the suggestion of playing him there shouldn't be given any time of day. Foden isn't an inside left either so there's a second player out of position. You're right about there not being a lineup that we don't like though. That's down to Southgate not taking Mitchell/Chilwell, we saw the impact Stevens had when he came back because he brought balance to the lineup. Foden is definitely an inside forward, number 10, Triquartista, attacking midfielder whatever you want to call it He's had brilliant games wide too, he's not a central midfielder or striker though I think not taking Chilwell was correct as he's gone to shit but absurd not taking Mitchell or Lewis or even Liveramento
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Post by adri2008 on Jun 22, 2024 22:15:50 GMT
I'd not be moving Saka anywhere when the right side of midfield is working effectively (the only thing that is). We are just going to have to stick with Trippier and make the team work. Obviously we should have brought another LB though the obvious replacement - Chilwell - looked shit and dodgy defensively when he was given a chance.
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Post by sticky on Jun 22, 2024 22:21:45 GMT
Playing trippier at LB is no excuse for the dross being on show so far, they could barely pass to each the other night and when they did it was like watching walking football. I expect a much better performance next game
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Post by adri2008 on Jun 22, 2024 22:50:15 GMT
Are we all being a bit over reactive to what's gone on? Yes, we've struggled for these first two games but with the players we've got we should improve as the tournament goes on. Only time will tell but all is not lost because of two bad games. I've certainly not given up on them or Southgate and think we'll improve from now on. Let's hope so. OS. Yes imo. We've tried to incorporate Trent into the team (which many were clamouring for) and it's not worked. Southgate will never be some tactical genius but on the whole, he's got the team selection correct so I expect changes and a big performance against Slovenia. I've not written this tournament off in the slightest.
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Post by starkiller on Jun 23, 2024 7:27:03 GMT
Worst team in the competition We are entirely predictable. Anyone other manager of a half decent team could look at all the space we leave and tear us apart. I struggle to understand how clueless Southgate is. Players who play under top level managers must struggle also. All we can hope is that there is some kind of mutiny as a result of media and fan criticism. Although certainly not without responsibility themselves, I'm sure these players are not happy to look like chumps on the big stage. I wouldn't really credit Southgate if there is any improvement. He would have carried on like this if we'd managed a 1-0.
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Post by werrington on Jun 23, 2024 7:35:27 GMT
If anybody is heading out
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Post by delilahwhy on Jun 23, 2024 8:05:42 GMT
Have there been any recent updates on Luke Shaw?
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Post by cdf on Jun 23, 2024 17:07:02 GMT
Lovely response from Harry Kane
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Post by questionable on Jun 23, 2024 17:30:03 GMT
Well if this is his last tournament, and we go out playing like we have been doing, then it’s certainly going to impact his future employment options. He seems an intelligent man so I’m hoping he’ll learn and adjust. I don’t think the LB issue needs to be as big as people make out so long as the rest of the team are allowed to play with more attacking intent Southgate will probably go into politics after the euros and bore the country to death, sorry Starmer has that gig lined up
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Post by questionable on Jun 23, 2024 17:30:49 GMT
Have there been any recent updates on Luke Shaw? Still in A&E probably
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Post by outspaced on Jun 23, 2024 17:34:43 GMT
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