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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 27, 2023 21:22:38 GMT
This story is going around but Spiegel isn't 100% reliable and plan needs political agreement.
Would be great if Germany ends up pitching in 15 bn/year.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 28, 2023 3:57:56 GMT
Ukraine kept saying that Bakhmut was of little strategic importance, but potentially allowed themselves to get overrun. Only time will tell but I still think it was a mistake as they appear to have lost some elite soldiers and not just border guards and manpower is critical/precious for Ukraine. It’s great that Bakhmut hasn’t fallen and given Russia a bit of a propaganda victory but I hope that the defence of Bakhmut was based on sound military judgement and not some Zelenskyy vanity project They didn't get loads of soldiers trapped (yet) so avoided the worst case & logically I should think better about it now, right? IMO "strategically important" is a red herring compared with the losses. Experts say morale and optics matter too, but if the losses are too bad it could backfire and undermine Ukrainian faith in Zelenskyy (+Syrskyi/Zaluzhnyi). That would be worse than losing the city. Sounds like we both basically agree but have different "feelings" about how it's working out. Is there anything in the coming months that would change your mind? I struggle to think. Probably an obvious collapse somewhere by August would be the only bit of proof we'd really see.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 28, 2023 8:14:18 GMT
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Post by musik on Mar 28, 2023 13:22:42 GMT
It surely must have been said on the news? 🤔 Lots of news but I don't think any of the journalists were in the room with Putin and Xi! EU intel folks and all the "experts" seem to think Putin didn't get what he wanted, and supposedly Xi made it really clear that Russia can't use a nuke. Could just be propaganda, but the official announcements gave Putin nothing. The news differ in England and Sweden.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 28, 2023 15:21:06 GMT
Don’t see much condemnation of the murder of Russian POWs by Ukrainian armed forces or are we only outraged by Russian atrocities Abuse of prisoners has to stop and perpetrators need bringing to justice. Hopefully the Ukrainian investigations of their alleged abuses will not be buried. I think it's important not to "both sides" this in a way that makes it seem like there is anything like equality of evil though. Ukrainian command has been clear about following the rules for POWs, while Russian command supports, rewards and covers it up. That probably explains why Russia didn't allow access to its torture camps and released Ukrainian soldiers (and civilians) almost universally report abuse. Unlike Russian POWs, whom Ukraine gave access to. The first casualty of war is the truth. As well as the battles with rockets and bullets there is the propaganda war. Then there is the battle for the moral ground by keeping things secret that you don't want the public to know. Before we get too high minded we should not forget our own history and how as a consequence much of the world sees Britain. Regarding Russia there was massacres in both WWs: White Russians in WW1 and - www.nbcnews.com/news/world/documents-us-uk-hushed-soviet-massacre-22-000-poles-wwii-flna991982Our record during the empire years involved massacring opposition as happened in India. I'm currently reading a biography on Cornwallis and what went on by both sides during the American war of independence was disgusting, remembering not just what the British did to the patriots, but what patriots did to loyalists. I just wish the Russian soldiers would put down their weapons and go home and have another revolution.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 28, 2023 16:13:22 GMT
The reaction from Russians when Ukraine reverse engineer these and there’s swarms of the fuckers on Russian cities.
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Post by questionable on Mar 29, 2023 13:42:14 GMT
Learning to be very skeptical about stuff posted on Twitter but just seen a thread which I can’t copy on her and has since disappeared now ofc but looks like an enormous gathering of Ukrainian forces, believe me it looks enormous with supplies in situ, not sure if it’s old footage I’m afraid
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Post by Northy on Mar 29, 2023 14:17:01 GMT
Learning to be very skeptical about stuff posted on Twitter but just seen a thread which I can’t copy on her and has since disappeared now ofc but looks like an enormous gathering of Ukrainian forces, believe me it looks enormous with supplies in situ, not sure if it’s old footage I’m afraid the ones behind Bahkmut ?
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Post by questionable on Mar 29, 2023 14:48:02 GMT
Learning to be very skeptical about stuff posted on Twitter but just seen a thread which I can’t copy on her and has since disappeared now ofc but looks like an enormous gathering of Ukrainian forces, believe me it looks enormous with supplies in situ, not sure if it’s old footage I’m afraid the ones behind Bahkmut ? Think so as sure it said getting behind, can’t see the thread for the life of me now
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 29, 2023 15:27:33 GMT
Ukraine minister now says the counteroffensive begins within two months. But remember they will just say what they want people to hear.
Last year it was "we will free Kherson" in July/August, so Russia moved its best units there. The real attack in September was ~300 miles away.
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Post by questionable on Mar 29, 2023 15:33:47 GMT
Ukraine minister now says the counteroffensive begins within two months. But remember they will just say what they want people to hear. Last year it was "we will free Kherson" in July/August, so Russia moved its best units there. The real attack in September was ~300 miles away. Noticed that the Russian troop losses seemed to have halved over the past few days or so, could be they’re digging in where they are and saving troops of running out of troops hopefully. My thoughts and prayers are for Ukraine as a whole and hopefully they’ll remove the Russians
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Post by questionable on Mar 29, 2023 16:30:10 GMT
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 29, 2023 17:28:41 GMT
Any info on if that video is recent?
The weather fits with recent but don't see any NATO or donated kit and none of the recent friend-or-foe identifiers like crosses on vehicles or tape on the soldiers.
Ukraine almost certainly has some serious equipment held back somewhere, just skeptical about whether that is new. I think a lot of it is distributed in garages etc, waiting for the right moment to come together.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 29, 2023 17:50:25 GMT
RUSI report says that Russian torture chambers follow similar designs and units across all of occupied Ukraine were provided with the same torture tools.
Assuming RUSI did their homework right then Russia planned all along for mass torture camps to suppress Ukrainian civilians.
All those weapons we rushed that helped to stop Russia's advance saved incredible numbers of innocents already.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 29, 2023 18:37:06 GMT
I used to test satellites, any idea if Skynet 1V is still floating about up there still working? I imagine not, it's been over 25 years, worked on Inmarsat and Hotbird too amongst others but Skynet was the only secret one. Oh that's cool! What testing did you do? I do Earth observation. My only knowledge of comms is from talking to the mission engineers who tell us there isn't the bandwidth to downlink all the imagery we want... I also work mostly with US tech so no idea about skynet etc.
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Post by questionable on Mar 29, 2023 18:49:20 GMT
I used to test satellites, any idea if Skynet 1V is still floating about up there still working? I imagine not, it's been over 25 years, worked on Inmarsat and Hotbird too amongst others but Skynet was the only secret one. Oh that's cool! What testing did you do? I do Earth observation. My only knowledge of comms is from talking to the mission engineers who tell us there isn't the bandwidth to downlink all the imagery we want... I also work mostly with US tech so no idea about skynet etc. My lad builds all sorts of stuff for Boeing etc, told me a while ago he’d helped on a satellite project that helps to navigate massive Norwegian ships into ports, I’d always assumed the captain steered them in with the round thing but apparently they hand it over to a satellite which takes into consideration all sorts of things even tidal movements, fascinating stuff.
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Post by questionable on Mar 29, 2023 18:59:59 GMT
Any info on if that video is recent? The weather fits with recent but don't see any NATO or donated kit and none of the recent friend-or-foe identifiers like crosses on vehicles or tape on the soldiers. Ukraine almost certainly has some serious equipment held back somewhere, just skeptical about whether that is new. I think a lot of it is distributed in garages etc, waiting for the right moment to come together. No idea mate, some are suggesting that it’s an old video but I can guarantee you that the equipment they’re saying has recently arrived in Ukraine has actually been there a lot longer. I’ve said on this thread before tactically the USA will have any counteroffensive already very carefully planned along with Ukraine ofc. If it was film it’d be a must watch but tragically it’s going to cost thousands of Ukrainian lives, I’m not all concerned about Russian losses whatsoever.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 29, 2023 19:32:29 GMT
I used to test satellites, any idea if Skynet 1V is still floating about up there still working? I imagine not, it's been over 25 years, worked on Inmarsat and Hotbird too amongst others but Skynet was the only secret one. Oh that's cool! What testing did you do? I do Earth observation. My only knowledge of comms is from talking to the mission engineers who tell us there isn't the bandwidth to downlink all the imagery we want... I also work mostly with US tech so no idea about skynet etc. It was a long time ago but we used a (very expensive) Spherical Near Field Far Field Range in an anechoic chamber at what was a partnership between GE Marconi and the French Space Agency Matra. Pretty sure it was the biggest indoor range in Europe at the time. Basically they built satellites and we were a test team that mounted either partial or whole payloads on a tower that had a rotating azimuth on its front and was itself positioned on a rotating turntable. We basically pinged it with microwave signals, turned it through various incremental angles and a computer measured the response, we then had to transfer the data through various magnetic tapes, software and programs to produce a pattern. The HP computer used to acquire the measurements transferred the data onto one of the old style magnetic tapes that you see whirring away in old movies. The only other of its type still in existence at the time was on the Indian Railways apparently A lot of the work was on Inmarsat, they had a huge budget.
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Post by felonious on Mar 29, 2023 20:11:31 GMT
Interesting watch last night with Bear Grylls and President Zelensky. He's one of the most media savvy politicians ever to have walked the earth.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 30, 2023 2:55:14 GMT
Interesting! Can look up those coords on Google Maps and can see they've basically emptied the tanks from that base. Someone looked at every Russian storage base and they worked out: 2,000 preserved tanks. 1,300 tanks that look ok but not properly preserved, could maybe be fixed. 1,300 spaces for tanks in hangers where satellites can't see if they were actually there. Best case for Russia: 4.6k backup tanks. The pros seem to think a lot of them just won't be fixable, so they're throwing around numbers like 3k. A shocking thing is that 1k+ of them are really old T-54/55/62... Russia's army is still huge but it's getting shitter.
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Post by musik on Mar 30, 2023 9:54:06 GMT
How big is China's in comparison?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2023 12:46:13 GMT
It seems like the Russian offensive is really struggling atm?
All whilst more and more western tanks and APC's arrive.
It feels like the next 2/3 months could be absolutely critical.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 30, 2023 16:08:53 GMT
It seems like the Russian offensive is really struggling atm? All whilst more and more western tanks and APC's arrive. It feels like the next 2/3 months could be absolutely critical. It's just really really hard to attack without massive tech superiority. Do you follow Mark Hertling? He commanded US forces in Europe for a while and helped train Ukrainians. He thinks it'll be brutal but expects Ukraine to retake some land but not decide the war. He also said Ukraine would resist in Feb 2022, so he's clearly got some idea... But there are always surprises. EDIT: difficulty attacking is why I think Ukraine held Bakhmut. Putin couldn't admit defeat so Russia threw in more troops... They might have switched to defence if they'd taken the city.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 30, 2023 16:20:03 GMT
Did anyone see Zelenskyy speech to Austrian parliament and the amount of MP’s that walked out as he started speaking.
Unbelievable
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2023 16:34:23 GMT
Did anyone see Zelenskyy speech to Austrian parliament and the amount of MP’s that walked out as he started speaking. Unbelievable The Austrians like the Swiss don't often end up on the right side of history.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2023 16:38:41 GMT
It seems like the Russian offensive is really struggling atm? All whilst more and more western tanks and APC's arrive. It feels like the next 2/3 months could be absolutely critical. It's just really really hard to attack without massive tech superiority. Do you follow Mark Hertling? He commanded US forces in Europe for a while and helped train Ukrainians. He thinks it'll be brutal but expects Ukraine to retake some land but not decide the war. He also said Ukraine would resist in Feb 2022, so he's clearly got some idea... But there are always surprises. EDIT: difficulty attacking is why I think Ukraine held Bakhmut. Putin couldn't admit defeat so Russia threw in more troops... They might have switched to defence if they'd taken the city. I don't but it will be very difficult for them for sure. I guess they've got to hope for the same sort of capitulation that happened in the north.
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Post by lordb on Mar 30, 2023 17:15:22 GMT
Did anyone see Zelenskyy speech to Austrian parliament and the amount of MP’s that walked out as he started speaking. Unbelievable The Austrians like the Swiss don't often end up on the right side of history. Go on
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2023 17:26:42 GMT
The Austrians like the Swiss don't often end up on the right side of history. Go on Around this sort of thing..........WW2. The party that walked out in Austria are far right with links to Putin. So it's all to be expected from them.
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Post by lordb on Mar 30, 2023 17:32:57 GMT
Around this sort of thing..........WW2. The party that walked out in Austria are far right with links to Putin. So it's all to be expected from them. Austria was annexed by Germany in 1936
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2023 17:35:46 GMT
Around this sort of thing..........WW2. The party that walked out in Austria are far right with links to Putin. So it's all to be expected from them. Austria was annexed by Germany in 1936 They let it happen. Hitler was fucking Austrian
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