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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 30, 2022 20:48:38 GMT
Ukraine has called for Russia to be kicked off the Security Council. That is extremely unlikely to happen unless the Russians use nuclear weapons. Wonder why he thinks this would change things? I don't know UN rules. But could it open the door to a worldwide special operation to demilitarise and denazify Russia? If India and China truly don't want the nuclear floodgates opened then they should agree to something like that.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 30, 2022 20:53:55 GMT
Ukraine has called for Russia to be kicked off the Security Council. That is extremely unlikely to happen unless the Russians use nuclear weapons. Wonder why he thinks this would change things? I don't know UN rules. But could it open the door to a worldwide special operation to demilitarise and denazify Russia? If India and China truly don't want the nuclear floodgates opened then they should agree to something like that. I don't know the rules either. I cannot see how China would agree to international military action against Russia.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 30, 2022 21:03:07 GMT
Wonder why he thinks this would change things? I don't know UN rules. But could it open the door to a worldwide special operation to demilitarise and denazify Russia? If India and China truly don't want the nuclear floodgates opened then they should agree to something like that. I don't know the rules either. I cannot see how China would agree to international military action against Russia. I don't think they want a nuclear arms race and Taiwan getting their own. Which is what I would do if I was Taiwan and saw Russia get away with this nuclear intimidation.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 30, 2022 21:16:36 GMT
I don't know the rules either. I cannot see how China would agree to international military action against Russia. I don't think they want a nuclear arms race and Taiwan getting their own. Which is what I would do if I was Taiwan and saw Russia get away with this nuclear intimidation. Taiwan can't just get nuclear weapons, and just the act of trying and building the infrastructure would give China a reason to invade.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 30, 2022 21:36:34 GMT
I don't think they want a nuclear arms race and Taiwan getting their own. Which is what I would do if I was Taiwan and saw Russia get away with this nuclear intimidation. Taiwan can't just get nuclear weapons, and just the act of trying and building the infrastructure would give China a reason to invade. Perhaps, maybe Taiwan has left it too late... But in a world where every middle sized country is racing for nukes, you might be able to find a supplier. I'd like to think that China doesn't want the nuclear cat to escape and so will make it very clear to Russia that they're fucked if Putin tries to push the button.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 1, 2022 7:53:41 GMT
China and India abstain - pathetic.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 1, 2022 9:02:13 GMT
Oh dear
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 1, 2022 9:47:56 GMT
Sounds like it could be a bloodbath.
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Post by Gods on Oct 1, 2022 9:48:01 GMT
China and India abstain - pathetic. Shameful.
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 1, 2022 9:51:17 GMT
China and India abstain - pathetic. Biding their time to hoover up the remains I’m afraid. The problem is such is the desire for the West to buy their cheap, sub standard shite having destroyed/abandoned its own manufacturing bases, they will increasingly hold the balance of power as time goes on. People don’t get, nor seem to care, that we are all indirectly arming them and it will get to the point where they are superior militarily and have free reign over the rest of the world.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 1, 2022 9:56:01 GMT
China and India abstain - pathetic. Biding their time to hoover up the remains I’m afraid. The problem is such is the desire for the West to buy their cheap, sub standard shite having destroyed/abandoned its own manufacturing bases, they will increasingly hold the balance of power as time goes on. People don’t get, nor seem to care, that we are all indirectly arming them and it will get to the point where they are superior militarily and have free reign over the rest of the world. I think India in particular are a fucking disgrace on this one. The amount of support and money we give that nation and they can't even oppose a dictator who is quite openly illegally seizing territory of other nations while murdering both Ukranian and Russian citizens.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 1, 2022 10:25:59 GMT
Biding their time to hoover up the remains I’m afraid. The problem is such is the desire for the West to buy their cheap, sub standard shite having destroyed/abandoned its own manufacturing bases, they will increasingly hold the balance of power as time goes on. People don’t get, nor seem to care, that we are all indirectly arming them and it will get to the point where they are superior militarily and have free reign over the rest of the world. I think India in particular are a fucking disgrace on this one. The amount of support and money we give that nation and they can't even oppose a dictator who is quite openly illegally seizing territory of other nations while murdering both Ukranian and Russian citizens. It’s shameful and says a lot about them. Next time they have flooding or some disaster we should abstain in sending them support.
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Post by wannabee on Oct 1, 2022 10:53:18 GMT
I think India in particular are a fucking disgrace on this one. The amount of support and money we give that nation and they can't even oppose a dictator who is quite openly illegally seizing territory of other nations while murdering both Ukranian and Russian citizens. It’s shameful and says a lot about them. Next time they have flooding or some disaster we should abstain in sending them support. To be fair that has generally been Britain's response to India During the period of the Raj Rule 9 seperate Famines occurred in India with a Conservative estimate of 35 million died. During the last Famine in Bengal 5 million died and Churchill refused to help because "Indians breed like Rabbits " Strangely no Famine since Independence Soviet Union/ Russia has always been supportive of India since Independence In 1971 during Bangladesh War against Pakistan, Russia was instrumental in helping India to win by providing Military Aid. Britain, USA and China backed Pakistan The Indo-Soviet Peace and Cooperation Treaty was signed in 1971 in recognition and thanks to Soviet Union for staving off a Disaster in India Sometimes you reap what you sow and its always best to know who your friends are.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 1, 2022 11:07:43 GMT
It’s shameful and says a lot about them. Next time they have flooding or some disaster we should abstain in sending them support. To be fair that has generally been Britain's response to India During the period of the Raj Rule 9 seperate Famines occurred in India with a Conservative estimate of 35 million died. During the last Famine in Bengal 5 million died and Churchill refused to help because "Indians breed like Rabbits " Strangely no Famine since Independence Soviet Union/ Russia has always been supportive of India since Independence In 1971 during Bangladesh War against Pakistan, Russia was instrumental in helping India to win by providing Military Aid. Britain, USA and China backed Pakistan The Indo-Soviet Peace and Cooperation Treaty was signed in 1971 in recognition and thanks to Soviet Union for staving off a Disaster in India Sometimes you reap what you sow and its always best to know who your friends are. It’s also about supporting the side in the right too. In respect to more recent years between 2016 and 2020, the UK provided around £1.9 billion of aid to India.
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Post by ravey123 on Oct 1, 2022 11:15:28 GMT
China and India abstain - pathetic. Shameful. People around the world should stop buying goods made in these countries. Those businesses in the west who have the closest ties with India and China should be outed and the public just move their money to other products of services. They are trying to maximise cheap energy and to improve their wealth whilst the world suffers Buying goods and services from China and India is akin to supporting Russia
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 1, 2022 11:24:08 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Oct 1, 2022 11:45:49 GMT
To be fair that has generally been Britain's response to India During the period of the Raj Rule 9 seperate Famines occurred in India with a Conservative estimate of 35 million died. During the last Famine in Bengal 5 million died and Churchill refused to help because "Indians breed like Rabbits " Strangely no Famine since Independence Soviet Union/ Russia has always been supportive of India since Independence In 1971 during Bangladesh War against Pakistan, Russia was instrumental in helping India to win by providing Military Aid. Britain, USA and China backed Pakistan The Indo-Soviet Peace and Cooperation Treaty was signed in 1971 in recognition and thanks to Soviet Union for staving off a Disaster in India Sometimes you reap what you sow and its always best to know who your friends are. It’s also about supporting the side in the right too. In respect to more recent years between 2016 and 2020, the UK provided around £1.9 billion of aid to India. This estimate puts it at $45 Trillion Britain extracted from India, who knows, but it was a hell of a lot of money www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/12/19/how-britain-stole-45-trillion-from-indiaOn this of all threads there should be a self awareness that people don't like other Countries invading them and that resentment tends to linger.Would you expect the History of the Raj is taught benignly in Indian Schools? Conversely in India's only conflict since Independence how do you think Russia is portrayed in School History Teaching?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 1, 2022 12:04:50 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 1, 2022 12:21:39 GMT
It’s also about supporting the side in the right too. In respect to more recent years between 2016 and 2020, the UK provided around £1.9 billion of aid to India. This estimate puts it at $45 Trillion Britain extracted from India, who knows, but it was a hell of a lot of money www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/12/19/how-britain-stole-45-trillion-from-indiaOn this of all threads there should be a self awareness that people don't like other Countries invading them and that resentment tends to linger.Would you expect the History of the Raj is taught benignly in Indian Schools? Conversely in India's only conflict since Independence how do you think Russia is portrayed in School History Teaching? If that’s the case we should hate the Germans Italians Japanese America Scandinavians Argentinians Scottish and visa versa There’s not many left. Sometimes you have to move on and stop holding grudges and move on and build bridges. Aside from the issues around India. What’s your general take on the rights and wrongs of the war?
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Post by scfcfred on Oct 1, 2022 12:23:12 GMT
pro-Russian source's have admitted the city of Lyman has now fallen to Ukrainian forces.🇺🇦
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Post by scfcfred on Oct 1, 2022 12:28:05 GMT
According to the Russian-hired military correspondents, their special forces were wiped out while trying to break out of the encirclement
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Post by wannabee on Oct 1, 2022 12:32:53 GMT
This estimate puts it at $45 Trillion Britain extracted from India, who knows, but it was a hell of a lot of money www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/12/19/how-britain-stole-45-trillion-from-indiaOn this of all threads there should be a self awareness that people don't like other Countries invading them and that resentment tends to linger.Would you expect the History of the Raj is taught benignly in Indian Schools? Conversely in India's only conflict since Independence how do you think Russia is portrayed in School History Teaching? If that’s the case we should hate the Germans Italians Japanese America Scandinavians Argentinians Scottish and visa versa There’s not many left. Sometimes you have to move on and stop holding grudges and move on and build bridges. Other than America who we seized from the North American Indians and possibly Scotland many of whom want the English to fuck off remind me which of the other Countries have we invaded and ruled?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 1, 2022 12:35:03 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 1, 2022 12:36:35 GMT
According to the Russian-hired military correspondents, their special forces were wiped out while trying to break out of the encirclement How sad!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 1, 2022 12:42:44 GMT
If that’s the case we should hate the Germans Italians Japanese America Scandinavians Argentinians Scottish and visa versa There’s not many left. Sometimes you have to move on and stop holding grudges and move on and build bridges. Other than America who we seized from the North American Indians and possibly Scotland many of whom want the English to fuck off remind me which of the other Countries have we invaded and ruled? I said both ways “visa versa”. Anyway back to my main question as you seem to know everything what’s your take on the current situation?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 1, 2022 12:43:23 GMT
So they've just taken a city in an annexed region.
Should I be shitting myself?
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Post by questionable on Oct 1, 2022 12:46:41 GMT
I think India in particular are a fucking disgrace on this one. The amount of support and money we give that nation and they can't even oppose a dictator who is quite openly illegally seizing territory of other nations while murdering both Ukranian and Russian citizens. It’s shameful and says a lot about them. Next time they have flooding or some disaster we should abstain in sending them support. [ Nevertheless, we estimate that between 2016 and 2020, the UK provided around £1.9 billion of aid to India.2 Aug 2022 They can F’ right off surely, lets give pensioners more money this winter
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 1, 2022 12:49:22 GMT
It’s shameful and says a lot about them. Next time they have flooding or some disaster we should abstain in sending them support. [ Nevertheless, we estimate that between 2016 and 2020, the UK provided around £1.9 billion of aid to India.2 Aug 2022 They can F’ right off surely, lets give pensioners more money this winter It appears not everyone agrees and it’s of our own making.
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Post by questionable on Oct 1, 2022 12:51:16 GMT
According to the Russian-hired military correspondents, their special forces were wiped out while trying to break out of the encirclement 5,500 to go now then, recall the Ukrainians getting blasted to pieces when surrounded by Russians, for me annihilate the lot of them they’d do the same without doubt. If true this is a game changer watching 5k Russian soldiers being filmed surrendering. Russia will now want talks believe me, just die Putin
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Post by wannabee on Oct 1, 2022 13:16:07 GMT
Other than America who we seized from the North American Indians and possibly Scotland many of whom want the English to fuck off remind me which of the other Countries have we invaded and ruled? I said both ways “visa versa”. Anyway back to my main question as you seem to know everything what’s your take on the current situation? I have no idea what "visa versa" has got to do with anything the Countries you named we have "merely" been in conflict with, there are many more. Contrast that with Countries Britain has invaded and Ruled and you will find a very different reaction, for very good reasons. Just out of interest what do you think was the motivation of Britain invading all these Countries? With regard to Ukraine I believe every Sovereign Country has the right to self determination and its encouraging that they appear to be pushing Russia back. Whether Putin is Mad enough to go for the Ultimate Weapon I don't know I would hope there may be checks and balances to stop him. Putin personally I hope he dies a rather slow and painful death. Its hard to conceive that whomever replaces Putin could be worse but we seem to have done it admirably on the last three occasions.
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