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Post by Gawa on Nov 23, 2024 13:09:07 GMT
Seems the United States want to sanction countries who don't abide with the ICC and international law now.
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 23, 2024 15:26:25 GMT
I don’t know why it’s always uk & usa get involved with these wars with minor support from the rest of the world, is it right or wrong to get involved I don’t really know, would understand more if the other countries gave their full support instead of letting two nations do the running? As for being anti Russia, I dislike the regime,not 99% of the populous, for their incursion onto OUR LAND and poisoning people for whatever reason, the recent one in Salisbury and a few years ago the one in London using the tip of an umbrella spring to mind. I don't agree with the argument "I won't do the right thing unless everyone else does too". Not saying that's your argument, but some people think like that so Russian propaganda really pushes that narrative - they tell Americans that Europeans aren't helping, they tell Germans that British or French aid is less, and British people that German aid is less etc. Some slightly old data here. Europe has financed more than the US. And it doesn't seem to include that this year Germany budgeted €11bn military aid while we said something like £3bn iirc. In percent of GDP we've committed less than Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Croatia, the Netherlands and Poland. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 24, 2024 8:38:20 GMT
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Nov 24, 2024 9:04:10 GMT
I don’t know why it’s always uk & usa get involved with these wars with minor support from the rest of the world, is it right or wrong to get involved I don’t really know, would understand more if the other countries gave their full support instead of letting two nations do the running? As for being anti Russia, I dislike the regime,not 99% of the populous, for their incursion onto OUR LAND and poisoning people for whatever reason, the recent one in Salisbury and a few years ago the one in London using the tip of an umbrella spring to mind. I don't agree with the argument "I won't do the right thing unless everyone else does too". Not saying that's your argument, but some people think like that so Russian propaganda really pushes that narrative - they tell Americans that Europeans aren't helping, they tell Germans that British or French aid is less, and British people that German aid is less etc. Some slightly old data here. Europe has financed more than the US. And it doesn't seem to include that this year Germany budgeted €11bn military aid while we said something like £3bn iirc. In percent of GDP we've committed less than Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Croatia, the Netherlands and Poland. Norway Poland Finland Latvia Lithuania Estonia all share land borders with Russia so makes sense but I'm quite surprised to see Slovakia on the list |
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Post by steve66 on Nov 24, 2024 12:14:17 GMT
I don’t know why it’s always uk & usa get involved with these wars with minor support from the rest of the world, is it right or wrong to get involved I don’t really know, would understand more if the other countries gave their full support instead of letting two nations do the running? As for being anti Russia, I dislike the regime,not 99% of the populous, for their incursion onto OUR LAND and poisoning people for whatever reason, the recent one in Salisbury and a few years ago the one in London using the tip of an umbrella spring to mind. I don't agree with the argument "I won't do the right thing unless everyone else does too". Not saying that's your argument, but some people think like that so Russian propaganda really pushes that narrative - they tell Americans that Europeans aren't helping, they tell Germans that British or French aid is less, and British people that German aid is less etc. Some slightly old data here. Europe has financed more than the US. And it doesn't seem to include that this year Germany budgeted €11bn military aid while we said something like £3bn iirc. In percent of GDP we've committed less than Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Croatia, the Netherlands and Poland. Is the uk 3 billion on top of the 13 billion we’ve reportedly sent, on top of training Ukrainian forces over here etc? |
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 25, 2024 4:46:07 GMT
- Russia says it shot down Ukrainian drones that attacked an oil depot. There's video with explosions and smoke very close to the depot though. - Ukraine says it launched ATACMS into Russia again, taking out a radar. No proof yet. Hopefully the west is sending many missiles to hit Russian targets now that the "red line" was found to be fake again. - the Economist says Ukraine hasn't hit recruitment targets for months. If true, then it'll take them even longer than expected to replenish and stabilise the front. - Russia has signed a law that new recruits can cancel payments on 10m roubles in debt (~$100k). Including family debt. On top of recruitment bonuses. In January there will be new data on the russian budget, wealth fund and debt. That'll give a much better idea of how close they are to financial disaster. |
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Post by Gods on Nov 25, 2024 9:46:30 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 25, 2024 10:05:06 GMT
When it all boils down people vote for their pockets And if the liberal elites don’t start putting money in peoples pockets they’ll be toast It doesn’t matter if you can identify as a wardrobe if you haven’t a roof over your head and food in your stomach |
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Post by adri2008 on Nov 25, 2024 10:18:00 GMT
Disgruntled voters will vote for an alternative if main stream parties can't be arsed to sell anything more than the status quo which is basically a reduced standard of living. |
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Post by Gods on Nov 25, 2024 13:12:42 GMT
I read incumbent parties have lost all elections around the world in 2024.
There may be odd exceptions which prove the rule.
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Post by salopstick on Nov 25, 2024 13:24:11 GMT
I read incumbent parties have lost all elections around the world in 2024. There may be odd exceptions which prove the rule. thattells you how shit incumbent governments have been |
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Post by Gods on Nov 25, 2024 14:00:09 GMT
I read incumbent parties have lost all elections around the world in 2024. There may be odd exceptions which prove the rule. thattells you how shit incumbent governments have been I think part of it is covid fall out. Shut down an entire economy on and off for 18 months but pay people as though it were open and there is £300 billion to find, never mind all the other fall out and burgeoning queues. But electorates cut government's no slack for this, so one by one they are getting chucked out. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 25, 2024 15:49:42 GMT
Explosions supposedly filmed near a Kursk airfield.
Russia says they shot down all the missiles that attacked. It's often cloudy over winter so getting satellite imagery will be very hard.
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Post by derbystokie on Nov 25, 2024 16:20:26 GMT
thattells you how shit incumbent governments have been I think part of it is covid fall out. Shut down an entire economy on and off for 18 months but pay people as though it were open and there is £300 billion to find, never mind all the other fall out and burgeoning queues. But electorates cut government's no slack for this, so one by one they are getting chucked out. Nothing to do with the ten years prior to covid then ffs...Or Ukraine or....but it's all 2008 (Labour) 15 years ago ! And Starmer's fault now... hilarious,bring back Boris asap an all will be fine an dandy again 🤣 |
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 25, 2024 16:29:00 GMT
I think part of it is covid fall out. Shut down an entire economy on and off for 18 months but pay people as though it were open and there is £300 billion to find, never mind all the other fall out and burgeoning queues. But electorates cut government's no slack for this, so one by one they are getting chucked out. Nothing to do with the ten years prior to covid then ffs...Or Ukraine or....but it's all 2008 (Labour) 15 years ago ! And Starmer's fault now... hilarious,bring back Boris asap an all will be fine an dandy again 🤣 Now there’s a idea |
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Post by derbystokie on Nov 25, 2024 16:38:52 GMT
Nothing to do with the ten years prior to covid then ffs...Or Ukraine or....but it's all 2008 (Labour) 15 years ago ! And Starmer's fault now... hilarious,bring back Boris asap an all will be fine an dandy again 🤣 Now there’s a idea At least Boris kept lying about his lies so there's always that to comfort you 😂 |
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 25, 2024 16:48:15 GMT
Big recon drones detect enemy movements, then the soldiers call in artillery, missiles or drones.
Ukraine is using smaller drones to take out hundreds of recon drones. It seems to be helping as fewer Lancet hunter drones have been recorded recently.
If one side can take out most of the other's recon drones then it could shift the war. Russia no doubt will be preparing its own methods.
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 25, 2024 16:57:09 GMT
It looks like Ukrainian ATACMS took out russian S-400 air defences in Kursk.
India paid $850m for an S-400 system before the war. I think that's 8 launchers, a radar etc.
This would be a bunch of nearly expired missiles that only cost ~$5m new in exchange for $100+ million damage to russia.
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Post by Gods on Nov 25, 2024 17:36:37 GMT
I think part of it is covid fall out. Shut down an entire economy on and off for 18 months but pay people as though it were open and there is £300 billion to find, never mind all the other fall out and burgeoning queues. But electorates cut government's no slack for this, so one by one they are getting chucked out. Nothing to do with the ten years prior to covid then ffs...Or Ukraine or....but it's all 2008 (Labour) 15 years ago ! And Starmer's fault now... hilarious,bring back Boris asap an all will be fine an dandy again 🤣 Covid was and continues to be huge, to pretend otherwise is fanciful. It's legacy is crippling this administration too. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 25, 2024 17:49:04 GMT
Nothing to do with the ten years prior to covid then ffs...Or Ukraine or....but it's all 2008 (Labour) 15 years ago ! And Starmer's fault now... hilarious,bring back Boris asap an all will be fine an dandy again 🤣 Covid was and continues to be huge, to pretend otherwise is fanciful. It's legacy is crippling this administration too. Over 400bn it was. And as you say still counting. Its absolutely crippled us, no doubt whatsoever, because its turned a fair percentage of people into lazy fuckwits. |
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Post by derbystokie on Nov 25, 2024 18:19:27 GMT
400 billion out of two trillion lol.... where's the rest gone? NHS,roads,prisons,schools, social services,councils ? Nah,so making out covid is the root of all evil today is quite frankly bollocks as was the life saving world beating vaccine rollout 🤣
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 25, 2024 18:50:40 GMT
400 billion out of two trillion lol.... where's the rest gone? NHS,roads,prisons,schools, social services,councils ? Nah,so making out covid is the root of all evil today is quite frankly bollocks as was the life saving world beating vaccine rollout 🤣 Nearly half a trillion most certainly isn't bollox. If it is then Rach from accounts best shut her lying cake hole about 22bn black holes because in your world thats chump change 😆 |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 25, 2024 19:15:15 GMT
Is there much information on him? I read this earlier and he was called far right because of his position on Ukraine and the EU. But there are many on the left who don't support EU or Ukraine conflict too. Would be interested to know his position on economy and stuff to see if he is actually far right or not. |
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Post by derbystokie on Nov 25, 2024 19:22:13 GMT
400 billion out of two trillion lol.... where's the rest gone? NHS,roads,prisons,schools, social services,councils ? Nah,so making out covid is the root of all evil today is quite frankly bollocks as was the life saving world beating vaccine rollout 🤣 400 billion out of two trillion lol.... where's the rest gone? NHS,roads,prisons,schools, social services,councils ? Nah,so making out covid is the root of all evil today is quite frankly bollocks as was the life saving world beating vaccine rollout 🤣 Nearly half a trillion most certainly isn't bollox. If it is then Rach from accounts best shut her lying cake hole about 22bn black holes because in your world thats chump change 😆 It actually really is bollox.... There's billions swilling around in the economy all in the wrong hands...The current administration have got years of incompetence and blatant corruption to deal with.....My world is just fine ta,you keep believing in the past 10 years or so... Austerity? Good luck with that lol. |
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Nov 25, 2024 19:41:58 GMT
Is there much information on him? I read this earlier and he was called far right because of his position on Ukraine and the EU. But there are many on the left who don't support EU or Ukraine conflict too. Would be interested to know his position on economy and stuff to see if he is actually far right or not. Right wing on social issues/ foreign policy and left wing on economics seems quite fashionable these days |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 25, 2024 19:43:47 GMT
Is there much information on him? I read this earlier and he was called far right because of his position on Ukraine and the EU. But there are many on the left who don't support EU or Ukraine conflict too. Would be interested to know his position on economy and stuff to see if he is actually far right or not. Is in a runoff where he got 22% and his rival 20% we'll see President of Romania is largely ceremonial so it doesn't really matter that much what he thinks Roumanian Parliamentary Elections are on 1st December which are far more important For the record he is as much of a Nationalist as Far Right his citing of Ion Antonescu who facilitated the Holocaust and Corneliu Codreanu a noted antisemite as his heroes rounds off his CV |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 25, 2024 20:04:49 GMT
400 billion out of two trillion lol.... where's the rest gone? NHS,roads,prisons,schools, social services,councils ? Nah,so making out covid is the root of all evil today is quite frankly bollocks as was the life saving world beating vaccine rollout 🤣 Nearly half a trillion most certainly isn't bollox. If it is then Rach from accounts best shut her lying cake hole about 22bn black holes because in your world thats chump change 😆 It actually really is bollox.... There's billions swilling around in the economy all in the wrong hands...The current administration have got years of incompetence and blatant corruption to deal with.....My world is just fine ta,you keep believing in the past 10 years or so... Austerity? Good luck with that lol. Can't understand that jumble of words👍 |
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Post by derbystokie on Nov 25, 2024 20:51:03 GMT
It actually really is bollox.... There's billions swilling around in the economy all in the wrong hands...The current administration have got years of incompetence and blatant corruption to deal with.....My world is just fine ta,you keep believing in the past 10 years or so... Austerity? Good luck with that lol. Can't understand that jumble of words👍 There's none so blind as them that don't want to see 👍 |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 26, 2024 0:05:53 GMT
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Post by musik on Nov 26, 2024 1:48:37 GMT
In Moscow there is a nuclear weapon monument.
What do you think of that?
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