Tyrese

[hotpot]

Brown fully deserves his place. No argument.

[Deleted]

Jan 19, 2022 2:49:53 GMT terrorofturfmoor said:

Jan 19, 2022 2:42:37 GMT hyaduck said:

If Brown’s the best striker we’re in trouble!!!!
Campbell is struggling at the moment but I’d be prepared to be patient as he’s a dam good player. Brown is someone who runs and runs, effort 10-football ability 4!!!!
We need better if we’re going to have a strong season. It’s probably a good thing we can’t spend much as O’Neill is not to be trusted with money, Surridge 2.5m rising to whatever, probably won’t rise because he’s not going to be fulfilling his so called potential!! Brown runs a lot and scores the odd goal, misses a fair few but for 2m he should be better especially in this league. I know you’re going say 2m and 2.5m+ is not a lot of money! It is when you have your limit’s AKA fair play!! You have to spend wisely which O’Neill hasn’t but he’s done ok in the loan market!!!!

Brown is nothing better than a league one player earning his trade in the championship with us!!!
I'm all for a worker in the side, but he's got to possess some footballing ability as well!!!

He'd look a damn sight better in league one!!!

Every player would look better in League one but Brown has been fine .

[terrorofturfmoor]

Jan 19, 2022 10:43:17 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Jan 19, 2022 2:49:53 GMT terrorofturfmoor said:

Brown is nothing better than a league one player earning his trade in the championship with us!!!
I'm all for a worker in the side, but he's got to possess some footballing ability as well!!!

He'd look a damn sight better in league one!!!

Every player would look better in League one but Brown has been fine .

Better.....

[crouchpotato1]

Is anyone else worried about his form?
He needs a run of games for me because he’s the best finisher at the club but I just don’t see it happening at the minute

[Jimm]

Unless he's leaving, there's no reason why Brown is starting ahead of him

[Deleted]

Jan 22, 2022 21:05:06 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

Is anyone else worried about his form?
He needs a run of games for me because he’s the best finisher at the club but I just don’t see it happening at the minute

He's totally out of shape which is a bit understandable. He was never a 90 mins player before the injury.

[Pirate]

Jan 22, 2022 21:05:06 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

Is anyone else worried about his form?
He needs a run of games for me because he’s the best finisher at the club but I just don’t see it happening at the minute

Not pleasing to see him struggle but its confidence for me, he does need pitch time to rediscover his best but there are other bright young things bringing a bit of the magic he was himself pre-injury so he needs to bring something in the time he is getting it seems
No doubt he will come again in my mind & the thought if him alongside the 2 diminutive players we have seen today is an exciting prospect

[adamsson]

Jan 22, 2022 21:09:45 GMT Jimm said:

Unless he's leaving, there's no reason why Brown is starting ahead of him

He had a really bad injury caught covid and got a post operative infection, needed 2 more operations and 5 days in hospital with no visitors. Believe it or not recovery is not easy he won't be back to his best until next season

[Laughing Gravy]

Jan 22, 2022 21:09:45 GMT Jimm said:

Unless he's leaving, there's no reason why Brown is starting ahead of him

Apart from the fact that he's playing better than him at the moment.

[dioufsboots]

Jan 22, 2022 21:05:06 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

Is anyone else worried about his form?
He needs a run of games for me because he’s the best finisher at the club but I just don’t see it happening at the minute

We can't afford to give a run of games to a player out of form,maybe half hour here and there is the best option till he finds form and confidence, hopefully he finds it soon, as the old ty and wright Phillips would be frightening and destroy alot of defences at this level

[crouchpotato1]

Jan 22, 2022 21:18:18 GMT dioufsboots said:

Jan 22, 2022 21:05:06 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

Is anyone else worried about his form?
He needs a run of games for me because he’s the best finisher at the club but I just don’t see it happening at the minute

We can't afford to give a run of games to a player out of form,maybe half hour here and there is the best option till he finds form and confidence, hopefully he finds it soon, as the old ty and wright Phillips would be frightening and destroy alot of defences at this level

I agree mate but it’s how he gets back to form that’s the issue without games🤔

[dioufsboots]

Jan 22, 2022 21:21:19 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

Jan 22, 2022 21:18:18 GMT dioufsboots said:

We can't afford to give a run of games to a player out of form,maybe half hour here and there is the best option till he finds form and confidence, hopefully he finds it soon, as the old ty and wright Phillips would be frightening and destroy alot of defences at this level

I agree mate but it’s how he gets back to form that’s the issue without games🤔

Think bench appearances and maybe the odd under 23 game is all we can do,as said above he's been through a really bad injury and probably won't be at his best till some point next season,and truth be told he probably came back a bit sooner than he should of

[thicknthin]

Jan 22, 2022 21:18:18 GMT dioufsboots said:

Jan 22, 2022 21:05:06 GMT crouchpotato1 said:

Is anyone else worried about his form?
He needs a run of games for me because he’s the best finisher at the club but I just don’t see it happening at the minute

We can't afford to give a run of games to a player out of form,maybe half hour here and there is the best option till he finds form and confidence, hopefully he finds it soon, as the old ty and wright Phillips would be frightening and destroy alot of defences at this level

[moon]

He hasn’t looked himself since he’s been back, but I think he’s been a bit unlucky too - we haven’t had a good run of form as a team in that time, he’s probably more suited to a 4-3-3, and we’re missing our best player in Powell.

I think it’s far easier for a young player to ease into a team at the top of their game compared to a struggling one. I think back to the young players that Fergie used to throw in at Man Utd, some were amazing - but even the average ones looked good in a well oiled machine. Tyrese will be back to his best in time, we are lucky we have many options up front.

[thicknthin]

Jan 22, 2022 21:17:35 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Jan 22, 2022 21:09:45 GMT Jimm said:

Unless he's leaving, there's no reason why Brown is starting ahead of him

Apart from the fact that he's playing better than him at the moment.

Is that what you took away from the game today? The only thing Brown was better than (today I must add I’m ok with the lad and his effort) is the clap and Clucas

[werrington]

Jesus wept

Seriously Jesus fucking wept

[houstonsteve]

since hes been back Ty has had two of the most clinical finishes we have seen this season.....and yet.... give the bloke time, hes not game fit clearly but he will get there. Ty on the pitch buries that chance WP set up for Brown.

[Billy the kid]

Jan 19, 2022 2:42:37 GMT hyaduck said:

Jan 19, 2022 0:20:14 GMT kustokie said:

Of course it’s not a universal opinion.  Just my own. Right now Brown, in my opinion, is a better player because Campbell is still not recovered from a very serious injury. Only time will tell if he ever returns to his previous firm. Burnley need a striker right away.  In my opinion there’s no way Campbell is ready to play in the best league in the world.  

If Brown’s the best striker we’re in trouble!!!!
Campbell is struggling at the moment but I’d be prepared to be patient as he’s a dam good player. Brown is someone who runs and runs, effort 10-football ability 4!!!!
We need better if we’re going to have a strong season. It’s probably a good thing we can’t spend much as O’Neill is not to be trusted with money, Surridge 2.5m rising to whatever, probably won’t rise because he’s not going to be fulfilling his so called potential!! Brown runs a lot and scores the odd goal, misses a fair few but for 2m he should be better especially in this league. I know you’re going say 2m and 2.5m+ is not a lot of money! It is when you have your limit’s AKA fair play!! You have to spend wisely which O’Neill hasn’t but he’s done ok in the loan market!!!!

You really are a boring prick that changes his tune no matter what to pour fire on the manager, got a suggestion for you, why don't you simulate pro creation with your hand and have a day off posting on here you boring old bastard.

[Laughing Gravy]

Jan 22, 2022 21:47:02 GMT thicknthin said:

Jan 22, 2022 21:17:35 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Apart from the fact that he's playing better than him at the moment.

Is that what you took away from the game today? The only thing Brown was better than (today I must add I’m ok with the lad and his effort) is the clap and Clucas

Tyrese is a much better player than Brown but at the moment he's struggling both physically and mentally to overcome his injury it would seem.
In my opinion he's rightly starting from the bench in order to build up his fitness and confidence.
Brown is, also quite rightly, starting ahead of him mainly because he is fully fit.
When/if Tyrese regains his fitness and form that would never be the case. He is a shoe in ahead of Brown.
I was simply pointing out that the fact that Tyrese is on the bench and Brown is starting does not necessarily mean that Ty is off just an indication of current form.

[Gary Hackett]

We really need to start playing 433 to get the best out of Ty and the new recruits.

[lordb]

Jan 22, 2022 22:15:24 GMT Gary Hackett said:

We really need to start playing 433 to get the best out of Ty and the new recruits.

With our fullbacks?
343 more likely

[Laughing Gravy]

Jan 22, 2022 22:16:18 GMT lordb said:

Jan 22, 2022 22:15:24 GMT Gary Hackett said:

We really need to start playing 433 to get the best out of Ty and the new recruits.

With our fullbacks?
343 more likely

What fullbacks be they?

[thicknthin]

Jan 22, 2022 22:12:16 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Jan 22, 2022 21:47:02 GMT thicknthin said:

Is that what you took away from the game today? The only thing Brown was better than (today I must add I’m ok with the lad and his effort) is the clap and Clucas

Tyrese is a much better player than Brown but at the moment he's struggling both physically and mentally to overcome his injury it would seem.
In my opinion he's rightly starting from the bench in order to build up his fitness and confidence.
Brown is, also quite rightly, starting ahead of him mainly because he is fully fit.
When/if Tyrese regains his fitness and form that would never be the case. He is a shoe in ahead of Brown.
I was simply pointing out that the fact that Tyrese is on the bench and Brown is starting does not necessarily mean that Ty is off just an indication of current form.

I agree that Ty is struggling, But I am appalled at the reaction of some fans on here writing him off though because he hasn’t hit the ground running as much as we hoped ( not this thread)
But…. The Brown Ty pairing failed Tye must be finished view I think must be challenged.

My alternative view to your comment was that Brown is in better form? I genuinely think his header last week masked a really poor performance. I don’t think Brown is in good form or worthy of a start. Today if fit (he was on the bench) Surely Fletch starts ahead of both.

(Sorry if I ramble I’m a few in 😁)

[bayernoatcake]

I’d be very tempted to play him for 45 minutes in the u23 game on Monday and then on the bench again Tuesday.

He doesn’t look like a footballer when it comes to any interplay or basic ball control. He’s still a threat as we’ve seen in a few games. But we need to build that confidence up for him in general play.

[Deleted]

Jan 22, 2022 22:37:30 GMT thicknthin said:

Jan 22, 2022 22:12:16 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Tyrese is a much better player than Brown but at the moment he's struggling both physically and mentally to overcome his injury it would seem.
In my opinion he's rightly starting from the bench in order to build up his fitness and confidence.
Brown is, also quite rightly, starting ahead of him mainly because he is fully fit.
When/if Tyrese regains his fitness and form that would never be the case. He is a shoe in ahead of Brown.
I was simply pointing out that the fact that Tyrese is on the bench and Brown is starting does not necessarily mean that Ty is off just an indication of current form.

I agree that Ty is struggling, But I am appalled at the reaction of some fans on here writing him off though because he hasn’t hit the ground running as much as we hoped ( not this thread)
But…. The Brown Ty pairing failed Tye must be finished view I think must be challenged.

My alternative view to your comment was that Brown is in better form? I genuinely think his header last week masked a really poor performance. I don’t think Brown is in good form or worthy of a start. Today if fit (he was on the bench) Surely Fletch starts ahead of both.

(Sorry if I ramble I’m a few in 😁)

Don't think anyone writing him off. I think it's obvious he's far from full fitness but will get there. He struggled before the injury to last a game and will take a few weeks at least you'd think. He's carrying a lot of timber also

[thicknthin]

Jan 22, 2022 23:22:17 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Jan 22, 2022 22:37:30 GMT thicknthin said:

I agree that Ty is struggling, But I am appalled at the reaction of some fans on here writing him off though because he hasn’t hit the ground running as much as we hoped ( not this thread)
But…. The Brown Ty pairing failed Tye must be finished view I think must be challenged.

My alternative view to your comment was that Brown is in better form? I genuinely think his header last week masked a really poor performance. I don’t think Brown is in good form or worthy of a start. Today if fit (he was on the bench) Surely Fletch starts ahead of both.

(Sorry if I ramble I’m a few in 😁)

Don't think anyone writing him off. I think it's obvious he's far from full fitness but will get there. He struggled before the injury to last a game and will take a few weeks at least you'd think. He's carrying a lot of timber also [/qu

Disagree there has been plenty of idjets and would be doctors on here claiming the lad is done! I do agree that given a bit of patience and time we have a proper goal scorer available.

Timber is a stretch, I wish I carried that much timber, truth is athlete’s in convalescence build up muscle mass as they work out so much

[Laughing Gravy]

Jan 22, 2022 22:37:30 GMT thicknthin said:

Jan 22, 2022 22:12:16 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Tyrese is a much better player than Brown but at the moment he's struggling both physically and mentally to overcome his injury it would seem.
In my opinion he's rightly starting from the bench in order to build up his fitness and confidence.
Brown is, also quite rightly, starting ahead of him mainly because he is fully fit.
When/if Tyrese regains his fitness and form that would never be the case. He is a shoe in ahead of Brown.
I was simply pointing out that the fact that Tyrese is on the bench and Brown is starting does not necessarily mean that Ty is off just an indication of current form.

I agree that Ty is struggling, But I am appalled at the reaction of some fans on here writing him off though because he hasn’t hit the ground running as much as we hoped ( not this thread)
But…. The Brown Ty pairing failed Tye must be finished view I think must be challenged.

My alternative view to your comment was that Brown is in better form? I genuinely think his header last week masked a really poor performance. I don’t think Brown is in good form or worthy of a start. Today if fit (he was on the bench) Surely Fletch starts ahead of both.

(Sorry if I ramble I’m a few in 😁)

Definitely not writing him off at all mate he's our diamond and we need to do everything in our power to keep him and get him back to his best.
But it's still fair and allowable to point out that he's not in good form and needs time to build up his fitness and confidence.
It is also ridiculous to suggest that the fact that Brown is starting ahead of him means he's being sold.
And I happen to think Brown is worthy of starting ahead of him at the moment. Hopefully not for long though.

Enjoy the rest of your beers.

[a]

Jan 22, 2022 21:09:45 GMT Jimm said:

Unless he's leaving, there's no reason why Brown is starting ahead of him

Isn’t he our top scorer?

[hyaduck]

Jan 22, 2022 21:52:51 GMT Billy the kid said:

Jan 19, 2022 2:42:37 GMT hyaduck said:

If Brown’s the best striker we’re in trouble!!!!
Campbell is struggling at the moment but I’d be prepared to be patient as he’s a dam good player. Brown is someone who runs and runs, effort 10-football ability 4!!!!
We need better if we’re going to have a strong season. It’s probably a good thing we can’t spend much as O’Neill is not to be trusted with money, Surridge 2.5m rising to whatever, probably won’t rise because he’s not going to be fulfilling his so called potential!! Brown runs a lot and scores the odd goal, misses a fair few but for 2m he should be better especially in this league. I know you’re going say 2m and 2.5m+ is not a lot of money! It is when you have your limit’s AKA fair play!! You have to spend wisely which O’Neill hasn’t but he’s done ok in the loan market!!!!

You really are a boring prick that changes of his loan his tune no matter what to pour fire on the manager, got a suggestion for you, why don't you simulate pro creation with your hand and have a day off posting on here you boring old bastard.

What’s all the anger for duck? Not getting much!!!!!
I’ve said what people like you won’t admit. O’Neill’s record with money has been poor but most of his loan/free transfers have been spot on. Now if you think Brown is a good player then you need get yourself up A&E. Another one who think’s he can talk a good game but really knows Nowt about it!!!
Am right aren’t I duck!!!!

[nottsover60]

Jan 22, 2022 23:57:23 GMT a said:

Jan 22, 2022 21:09:45 GMT Jimm said:

Unless he's leaving, there's no reason why Brown is starting ahead of him

Isn’t he our top scorer?

Joint and look at his goals per minute compared to Powell and Campbell. Can you think of a single moment today when you thought Brown was going to score? I can think of a brief moment when I thought Campbell might but he never got a shot away. Thing is even out of form I would put money on Campbell scoring more than Brown given the same opportunities. The difference between us and Fulham today was that their stand in centre forward was a goal threat.