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Tyrese
Jan 2, 2022 17:19:12 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2022 17:19:12 GMT
But that’s got nothing to do with actually playing in midfield has it? I also don’t think they should have scored from there anyway even with his mistake. Batth just switches off. The second goal is the same, yeah Clucas is terrible for it but would you expect us to score from that situation? No chance we do. Same with the first. I’m not getting drawn into this. It was shit and headless by Wilmot wherever he was supposed to be playing but to get sucked out of defence to try that tackle was even worse because, as you say, it exposed the statue that is Danny Batth to nippy forwards. Absolutely rank however you look at it. No point saying don’t bother replying because you most certainly will. Just don’t expect another response from me as I’ve better things to do with my evening than to get into a Chuckle Brothers tussle with you. It was but I don’t see what it has to do with him playing in midfield 🤷♂️ It doesn’t. |
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Tyrese
Jan 2, 2022 17:28:05 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 2, 2022 17:28:05 GMT
I’m not getting drawn into this. It was shit and headless by Wilmot wherever he was supposed to be playing but to get sucked out of defence to try that tackle was even worse because, as you say, it exposed the statue that is Danny Batth to nippy forwards. Absolutely rank however you look at it. No point saying don’t bother replying because you most certainly will. Just don’t expect another response from me as I’ve better things to do with my evening than to get into a Chuckle Brothers tussle with you. It was but I don’t see what it has to do with him playing in midfield 🤷♂️ It doesn’t. You would have crucified Allen if he’d done similar. That’s all. Let’s move on. |
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Tyrese
Jan 2, 2022 17:35:47 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2022 17:35:47 GMT
It was but I don’t see what it has to do with him playing in midfield 🤷♂️ It doesn’t. You would have crucified Allen if he’d done similar. That’s all. Let’s move on. I would and I’ve crucified Wilmot for it too. But I don’t think it has any impact on his ability to play midfield. Now if he was playing midfield and he fucked up then yeah you have a point. It was just bad defending in the end. And ironically he felt the need to jump in there because the midfield (wee Joe) were where?  |
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Post by yyy on Jan 2, 2022 17:43:26 GMT
I'd genuinely play an u23's player ahead of clucas after the last showing. Personally I'd throw wilmott in there. I agree with the formation though, have a go at teams, if we have to... conceed a couple but outscore them This would be the same Wilmot who recklessly dived in in midfield missed the ball completely and then completely exposed our back line for Derby’s first goal? I would pick Wilmott over Clucas CM, yes. Clucas is just turning up to collect his pay, he should be embarrased at how much he contributes, I'd go as far as drop him into the u23's to make a point |
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Tyrese
Jan 2, 2022 17:44:28 GMT
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Post by yyy on Jan 2, 2022 17:44:28 GMT
I'd genuinely play an u23's player ahead of clucas after the last showing. Personally I'd throw wilmott in there. I agree with the formation though, have a go at teams, if we have to... conceed a couple but outscore them I don't think it's reckless. As long as Allen and clucas keep their discipline and use the ball, in vrancic, Campbell, Fletcher you have enough to win the game and this bring in brown to work one flank, which is probably his best position anyway and it also means he can find more time for doughty and ince. Fox at left back, Smith at right back, wilmot and Batth center backs and less pressure on Batth to try and dictate play.. It's insanity going with three at the back with the players we have available now I agree, I think we'll learn a bit more about o Neill with tomorrow night's set up |
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Tyrese
Jan 2, 2022 17:49:12 GMT
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 2, 2022 17:49:12 GMT
I don't think it's reckless. As long as Allen and clucas keep their discipline and use the ball, in vrancic, Campbell, Fletcher you have enough to win the game and this bring in brown to work one flank, which is probably his best position anyway and it also means he can find more time for doughty and ince. Fox at left back, Smith at right back, wilmot and Batth center backs and less pressure on Batth to try and dictate play.. It's insanity going with three at the back with the players we have available now I agree, I think we'll learn a bit more about o Neill with tomorrow night's set up Err! It's a 3pm ko. |
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Tyrese
Jan 2, 2022 17:50:41 GMT
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Post by yyy on Jan 2, 2022 17:50:41 GMT
I agree, I think we'll learn a bit more about o Neill with tomorrow night's set up Err! It's a 3pm ko. Nice one |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 2, 2022 17:52:24 GMT
This would be the same Wilmot who recklessly dived in in midfield missed the ball completely and then completely exposed our back line for Derby’s first goal? I would pick Wilmott over Clucas CM, yes. Clucas is just turning up to collect his pay, he should be embarrased at how much he contributes, I'd go as far as drop him into the u23's to make a point That’s not really saying anything though is it? I’d pick Wimmer over Clucas. |
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Post by yyy on Jan 2, 2022 17:57:14 GMT
I would pick Wilmott over Clucas CM, yes. Clucas is just turning up to collect his pay, he should be embarrased at how much he contributes, I'd go as far as drop him into the u23's to make a point That’s not really saying anything though is it? I’d pick Wimmer over Clucas. He shouldn't be anywhere near after his last offering, if anyone from the U23's can't get a look in with him walking around the pitch then what does that say, both to and about the U23's and also the standards the manager deems acceptable to play first team football |
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Post by kustokie on Jan 3, 2022 17:10:00 GMT
It may not be popular; however, it has to be said that the one factor that correlates with our recent decline is the return of Campbell to the starting line up. He was fine off the bench against tired legs, but he’s been ineffective as a starter. He looks fat, slow and unfit.
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Post by h5nty on Jan 3, 2022 17:11:23 GMT
He is fat, slow and unfit. Corrected that for you. |
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 17:13:15 GMT
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jan 3, 2022 17:13:15 GMT
Shouldn’t be playing. Nowhere near the level
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 17:13:35 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2022 17:13:35 GMT
It may not be popular; however, it has to be said that the one factor that correlates with our recent decline is the return of Campbell to the starting line up. He was fine off the bench against tired legs, but he’s been ineffective as a starter. He looks fat, slow and unfit. 'The one factor'? |
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 17:14:28 GMT
Post by kustokie on Jan 3, 2022 17:14:28 GMT
It may not be popular; however, it has to be said that the one factor that correlates with our recent decline is the return of Campbell to the starting line up. He was fine off the bench against tired legs, but he’s been ineffective as a starter. He looks fat, slow and unfit. 'The one factor'? The main factor, then. anyone have the stats on the points per game before and after his return. I bet they dropped significantly. |
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 17:18:34 GMT
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Post by rorystowel on Jan 3, 2022 17:18:34 GMT
The main factor, then. anyone have the stats on the points per game before and after his return. I bet they dropped significantly. Here’s a stat for you - he scored in our last 2 victories. Campbell was just one of many poor performers today, and I include the manager in that number. |
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 17:25:51 GMT
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Post by citynickscfc on Jan 3, 2022 17:25:51 GMT
I don't think it's reckless. As long as Allen and clucas keep their discipline and use the ball, in vrancic, Campbell, Fletcher you have enough to win the game and this bring in brown to work one flank, which is probably his best position anyway and it also means he can find more time for doughty and ince. Fox at left back, Smith at right back, wilmot and Batth center backs and less pressure on Batth to try and dictate play.. It's insanity going with three at the back with the players we have available now I agree, I think we'll learn a bit more about o Neill with tomorrow night's set up What did we learn? That was unbelievably shite. Stoke and Oniel, going nowhere fast Tyrese was shite again tbh |
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 17:45:38 GMT
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jan 3, 2022 17:45:38 GMT
He needs to have a word with himself. Pundits have been highlighting Jarred Bowen lately who you could say had similar potential in this division.
Campbell was scoring and assisting every week before his injury like Bowen was, so willing to give him some leeway but fuck me, he wouldn’t last two minutes in the top league.
Bowen covers at least 10k a game. You can’t get anywhere in the modern game if you can’t fucking wrong!
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 17:47:52 GMT
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 3, 2022 17:47:52 GMT
We certainly don’t need to worry about losing him at the moment.
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 18:03:30 GMT
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Post by yyy on Jan 3, 2022 18:03:30 GMT
I agree, I think we'll learn a bit more about o Neill with tomorrow night's set up What did we learn? That was unbelievably shite. Stoke and Oniel, going nowhere fast Tyrese was shite again tbh Well he changed the formation, that's what I was meaning, will he or won't he. I don't know where we go from here, this team with this personal is not getting in the play offs, it's quite clear, that was my minimum expectation this season, yes we've had injuries but it's all part and parcel of the game and its why you have a 25 man squad, the job of the mananger is to fill that 25 man squad with options. Recruitment (incomings) on the whole has been a disaster. As for Campbell, I can assure anyone he's not going anywhere this window he's gone completely off the boil |
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 18:10:38 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Jan 3, 2022 18:10:38 GMT
What has happened to him!!! He looks like Bambi on ice!! Hardly seen a player go from hero to zero in such a short time! Please calm down when you're on the ball,Ty!  |
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 3, 2022 18:53:41 GMT
He's nowhere near fit enough
Has to be taken out of the starting XI immediately until he can get himself in proper condition to last more than 15 minutes. I don't care how many goals and assists he got before he got injured- he looks fucked after a few minutes.
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 18:55:46 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 3, 2022 18:55:46 GMT
He's nowhere near fit enough Has to be taken out of the starting XI immediately until he can get himself in proper condition to last more than 15 minutes. I don't care how man goals and assists he got before he got injured- he looks fucked after a few minutes. This 100% because he’s a passenger at the minute |
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 18:59:24 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 3, 2022 18:59:24 GMT
He's nowhere near fit enough Has to be taken out of the starting XI immediately until he can get himself in proper condition to last more than 15 minutes. I don't care how man goals and assists he got before he got injured- he looks fucked after a few minutes. Was it the left knee he injured or right? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2022 18:59:55 GMT
This would be the same Wilmot who recklessly dived in in midfield missed the ball completely and then completely exposed our back line for Derby’s first goal? I would pick Wilmott over Clucas CM, yes. Clucas is just turning up to collect his pay, he should be embarrased at how much he contributes, I'd go as far as drop him into the u23's to make a point I don’t know if Wilmot would be good in midfield, but I do absolutely despise Clucas as a footballer. He’s just pointless. Dropping him to the U23s wouldn’t be fair to them, and the academy shouldn’t be a punishment as I believe it sends the wrong message to the academy players. Just keep him on the bench or leave him out the squad. As this thread is about Campbell, I think the first goal was (almost) entirely on him. He was 15 yards behind on their play, which wasn’t the fastest of plays. It wasn’t the first time that half that was the case. It was also an issue for him last season, but he countered it by being so effective off the ball. By not tracking back, we were left so open on that side and their crosser had no pressure for the delivery. He seemed to approach today differently than last season. Last year he seemed to play a lot closer to Fletcher. Today he stood on the wing and isolated himself and Fletcher. |
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Post by fortressbritannia on Jan 3, 2022 19:30:19 GMT
His lack of work off the ball for their first goal was infuriating considering we were only 1 up
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 3, 2022 19:33:13 GMT
He's nowhere near fit enough Has to be taken out of the starting XI immediately until he can get himself in proper condition to last more than 15 minutes. I don't care how man goals and assists he got before he got injured- he looks fucked after a few minutes. Was it the left knee he injured or right? Not sure. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 3, 2022 19:35:30 GMT
Was it the left knee he injured or right? Not sure. He just doesn't look confident in the stability of his left leg at all hence the question. He's not only a fair way away from fitness but he's also mentally some way away from being confident in his body I'd say. |
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 19:36:06 GMT
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 3, 2022 19:36:06 GMT
His lack of work off the ball for their first goal was infuriating considering we were only 1 up we have been 3-0 up and fucked it up. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2022 19:37:57 GMT
The main factor, then. anyone have the stats on the points per game before and after his return. I bet they dropped significantly. A bigger factor than the Souttar injury? |
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Tyrese
Jan 3, 2022 19:38:20 GMT
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Post by pieofpeter on Jan 3, 2022 19:38:20 GMT
He just doesn't look confident in the stability of his left leg at all hence the question. He's not only a fair way away from fitness but he's also mentally some way away from being confident in his body I'd say. The injury he has had usally the mental side takes alot longer than the injury. Also he isn't game fit yet. Think also the transfer rumors have got to him an all. |
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