Tyrese

[Laughing Gravy]

Dec 29, 2021 13:10:04 GMT pottersrule said:

Dec 29, 2021 12:53:28 GMT FullerMagic said:

I was thinking the other day when Wilson and ASM got injured that a good, British Champ striker may turn out to be the best they can do in the circumstances - unless they can get someone in on loan.

I think Brereton Diaz would be favourite if they go down the championship route.

That’s a good shout but Blackburn might want more for him as an international player.

[JimmyisGod]

Why not a good loan fee with an obligation to buy if they survive?

[nonameface]

Dec 29, 2021 13:02:22 GMT FullerMagic said:

Yeah, I think Campbell would jump at the prospect, to be honest.

Even if they go down, they're going to be a promotion juggernaut next season

Will they?

If memory serves me right we had the largest net transfer spree upon relegation which didn't buy us promotion.

[FullerMagic]

Dec 29, 2021 13:20:47 GMT nonameface said:

Dec 29, 2021 13:02:22 GMT FullerMagic said:

Yeah, I think Campbell would jump at the prospect, to be honest.

Even if they go down, they're going to be a promotion juggernaut next season

Will they?

If memory serves me right we had the largest net transfer spree upon relegation which didn't buy us promotion.

I think they'll get players on a different level to us though - they've already seemingly signed Kieran Trippier.

We had Afobe and McClean!

[PotterLog]

Dec 29, 2021 12:54:58 GMT gingerninja said:

I think if they come knocking with say £25 million, it would be very hard to turn down.

I don’t think we’d turn 15 down to be honest

[a]

Dec 29, 2021 13:22:37 GMT FullerMagic said:

Dec 29, 2021 13:20:47 GMT nonameface said:

Will they?

If memory serves me right we had the largest net transfer spree upon relegation which didn't buy us promotion.

I think they'll get players on a different level to us though - they've already seemingly signed Kieran Trippier.

We had Afobe and McClean!

We also had Ndiaye, Allen, Etebo, Bojan etc, who should’ve been more than enough. I think you can sometimes have the wrong players even when in theory/on paper they should walk the league. The championship seems a certainty only for the likes of Norwich and Fulham, who then get a pasting in the league above. It’s a funny game!

[nonameface]

Dec 29, 2021 13:22:37 GMT FullerMagic said:

Dec 29, 2021 13:20:47 GMT nonameface said:

Will they?

If memory serves me right we had the largest net transfer spree upon relegation which didn't buy us promotion.

I think they'll get players on a different level to us though - they've already seemingly signed Kieran Trippier.

We had Afobe and McClean!

It is crazy to think they'll get Trippier. From winning La Liga to getting relegated with Newcastle

[Billy the kid]

I think salanco would be a better fit for Newcastle (and the rest of the championship 🤣🤣🤣)

[Laughing Gravy]

Dec 29, 2021 13:24:38 GMT PotterLog said:

Dec 29, 2021 12:54:58 GMT gingerninja said:

I think if they come knocking with say £25 million, it would be very hard to turn down.

I don’t think we’d turn 15 down to be honest

I think we might if it’s Newcastle mate.
£20m starting point.

[Laughing Gravy]

Dec 29, 2021 13:45:19 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Dec 29, 2021 13:24:38 GMT PotterLog said:

I don’t think we’d turn 15 down to be honest

I think we might if it’s Newcastle mate.
£20m starting point.

£5m is peanuts to them.
It’s a good Champo player to us.

[pottersrule]

Dec 29, 2021 13:16:01 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Dec 29, 2021 13:10:04 GMT pottersrule said:

I think Brereton Diaz would be favourite if they go down the championship route.

That’s a good shout but Blackburn might want more for him as an international player.

Very likely but £1million is like a grain of sand in a kid's sand pit to them.

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Dec 29, 2021 13:46:50 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Dec 29, 2021 13:45:19 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

I think we might if it’s Newcastle mate.
£20m starting point.

£5m is peanuts to them.
It’s a good Champo player to us.

The problem is that to us 5 million quid represents one Ryan Woods or, dare I say it based on the evidence seen so far, one Sam Surridge.

I'm more worried about us having a plan for the proceeds of the eventual sale of TC than I am of actually losing him.

We don't spend wisely.

Edit: that's not to say we shouldn't be looking to get maximum value of course!

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Dec 29, 2021 14:02:48 GMT @mattyfce said:

Dec 29, 2021 13:46:50 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

£5m is peanuts to them.
It’s a good Champo player to us.

The problem is that to us 5 million quid represents one Ryan Woods or, dare I say it based on the evidence seen so far, one Sam Surridge.

I'm more worried about us having a plan for the proceeds of the eventual sale of TC than I am of actually losing him.

We don't spend wisely.

Edit: that's not to say we shouldn't be looking to get maximum value of course!

Isn’t it 2-2.5 Sam Surridge’s? Didn’t we sign him for ~£2 million in a fee that could rise to £4 million with add-ons.

The good thing about add-ons and this argument is that they largely render it mute as they are for performance-based achievements (goals in a season, international call-ups etc).

[y_oh_y_delilah]

Dec 29, 2021 14:18:58 GMT @cvillestokie said:

Dec 29, 2021 14:02:48 GMT @mattyfce said:

The problem is that to us 5 million quid represents one Ryan Woods or, dare I say it based on the evidence seen so far, one Sam Surridge.

I'm more worried about us having a plan for the proceeds of the eventual sale of TC than I am of actually losing him.

We don't spend wisely.

Edit: that's not to say we shouldn't be looking to get maximum value of course!

Isn’t it 2-2.5 Sam Surridge’s? Didn’t we sign him for ~£2 million in a fee that could rise to £4 million with add-ons.

The good thing about add-ons and this argument is that they largely render it mute as they are for performance-based achievements (goals in a season, international call-ups etc).

Yes but the problem with that logic is that everyone’s a loser but principally Stoke City for wasting £2 million on an underperforming player.
It’s definitely a lose-lose situation.

[bayernoatcake]

Surridge looks like he’d be worth a punt at 250k. Anything more looks foolish.

[AlbertTatlock]

Not saying it's fact but the guy is pretty good with his info and he reckons Howe is very keen to sign Campbell and will offer him first team football straight away with the injury problems they have. Just to add my opinion for what it's worth - if Stoke get offered £25m and Campbell is offered £60k + a week (let's remember Gayle has just signed a new contract for £55k a week) regardless of Newcastle facing relegation and Stoke in with a shout of promotion, unless we can match the wages he'll go, even if we do match the wages I still think he'll go.

Gouranga.

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Dec 29, 2021 15:17:15 GMT AlbertTatlock said:

Not saying it's fact but the guy is pretty good with his info and he reckons Howe is very keen to sign Campbell and will offer him first team football straight away with the injury problems they have. Just to add my opinion for what it's worth - if Stoke get offered £25m and Campbell is offered £60k + a week (let's remember Gayle has just signed a new contract for £55k a week) regardless of Newcastle facing relegation and Stoke in with a shout of promotion, unless we can match the wages he'll go, even if we do match the wages I still think he'll go.

Gouranga.

I agree.
Regardless where Newcastle are playing their football next season, if they are genuinely interested Campbell will be off like a shot.

[Staffsoatcake]

When Campbell does go, where ever it is, Stoke must ask for a large sell clause say 20/25%

[lordb]

Dec 29, 2021 16:09:42 GMT Staffsoatcake said:

When Campbell does go, where ever it is, Stoke must ask for a large sell clause say 20/25%

Absolutely

[PotterLog]

Dec 29, 2021 15:17:15 GMT AlbertTatlock said:

Not saying it's fact but the guy is pretty good with his info and he reckons Howe is very keen to sign Campbell and will offer him first team football straight away with the injury problems they have. Just to add my opinion for what it's worth - if Stoke get offered £25m and Campbell is offered £60k + a week (let's remember Gayle has just signed a new contract for £55k a week) regardless of Newcastle facing relegation and Stoke in with a shout of promotion, unless we can match the wages he'll go, even if we do match the wages I still think he'll go.

Gouranga.

If we’re offered 25m we’re not going to be devising strategies to try and keep him

[Trouserdog]

Signing Campbell would be a huge risk for Newcastle. He's still nowhere near the kind of form he was in before his injury, is still feeling his way back in, but they need someone to make an immediate impact.

I don't want him to go, but everyone has their price. Once we start getting near £20m, it'd be hard to turn down.

[Deleted]

We don't know where or how much Newcastle will be spending. They might sign Tyrese as a project like we did with Doughty, to stop others stealing a march with him - and sign a bona fide first option too.

Either way, as a supporter base we need to prepare for his departure sooner than later. We're miles away from promotion at the moment and he is a lot closer to being a PL player than we are a club.

Hard to stomach yes, but a fact we have to get our heads around pretty damn quick. We need to be planning how we replace him in the short term aswell as cementing the long term pathway for the likes of Tezgel.

[lordb]

Re Newcastle, who will be in control of transfers?
Howe?

[mattador78]

Dec 29, 2021 18:26:51 GMT lordb said:

Re Newcastle, who will be in control of transfers?
Howe?

He will be lucky if he’s still controlling the team by next season

[Laughing Gravy]

Dec 29, 2021 18:38:01 GMT mattador78 said:

Dec 29, 2021 18:26:51 GMT lordb said:

Re Newcastle, who will be in control of transfers?
Howe?

He will be lucky if he’s still controlling the team by next season

Exactly.
And I know their new owners are wedged beyond belief but are they really going to let Howe spunk multi millions up the wall in January if he's not going to be in charge come June.

[Squeekster]

Dec 29, 2021 18:53:32 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Dec 29, 2021 18:38:01 GMT mattador78 said:

He will be lucky if he’s still controlling the team by next season

Exactly.
And I know their new owners are wedged beyond belief but are they really going to let Howe spunk multi millions up the wall in January if he's not going to be in charge come June.

If it keeps them up then maybe it's a gamble worth taking if they stay up otherwise it puts the plans back a year.

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Dec 29, 2021 13:20:47 GMT nonameface said:

Dec 29, 2021 13:02:22 GMT FullerMagic said:

Yeah, I think Campbell would jump at the prospect, to be honest.

Even if they go down, they're going to be a promotion juggernaut next season

Will they?

If memory serves me right we had the largest net transfer spree upon relegation which didn't buy us promotion.

I don't think Newcastle would do something really stupid like for instance, upon relegation think that they have to act like a shit championship club and appoint a shit championship manager.

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Dec 29, 2021 13:45:19 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Dec 29, 2021 13:24:38 GMT PotterLog said:

I don’t think we’d turn 15 down to be honest

I think we might if it’s Newcastle mate.
£20m starting point.

To be fair he's s great player and further prospect but scored 17 goals to date is it and still on the back of a serious injury? Is a lot of money to spend on what would be a huge gamble at that level. I think we're throwing huge figures around that are a bit unrealistic for me. Newcastle been linked with so many players and you'd think they could buy a real top draw player if money available to be believed. Hope so anyway

[followyoudown]

Dec 30, 2021 0:41:20 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

Dec 29, 2021 13:45:19 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

I think we might if it’s Newcastle mate.
£20m starting point.

To be fair he's s great player and further prospect but scored 17 goals to date is it and still on the back of a serious injury? Is a lot of money to spend on what would be a huge gamble at that level. I think we're throwing huge figures around that are a bit unrealistic for me. Newcastle been linked with so many players and you'd think they could buy a real top draw player if money available to be believed. Hope so anyway

Thats my hope too and if he goes for a championship striker hopefully he goes for one he has worked with before like Solanke, with their money though you'd think they would be looking at the likes of Cavini, Origi, Aubamayeng, Bale or even seeing if Chelsea would take their money back on Werner.

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Dec 30, 2021 0:59:47 GMT followyoudown said:

Dec 30, 2021 0:41:20 GMT jesusmcmuffin said:

To be fair he's s great player and further prospect but scored 17 goals to date is it and still on the back of a serious injury? Is a lot of money to spend on what would be a huge gamble at that level. I think we're throwing huge figures around that are a bit unrealistic for me. Newcastle been linked with so many players and you'd think they could buy a real top draw player if money available to be believed. Hope so anyway

Thats my hope too and if he goes for a championship striker hopefully he goes for one he has worked with before like Solanke, with their money though you'd think they would be looking at the likes of Cavini, Origi, Aubamayeng, Bale or even seeing if Chelsea would take their money back on Werner.

Can't believe all you read but Barbosa linked by quite a few sources.