Tyrese

[AlbertTatlock]

Dec 8, 2021 22:41:58 GMT Roger Everyone said:

Dec 8, 2021 22:33:24 GMT AlbertTatlock said:

Thing is would you sell Tyrese for £25m and use the majority of the money (say £15m) to tempt Blackbum to part with Ben Brereton? I'm not suggesting either would happen just putting it out there.

Gouranga.

In reality that's what will happen and its good business, not sure I would go for Ben Brereton.

Not sure why you wouldn't take a punt with Brereton, local lad, scoring for fun in a side that's not exactly setting the championship on fire, 17 goals in less than half a season, young loads of potential. What's not to like?

Gouranga.

[hyaduck]

Dec 8, 2021 20:04:01 GMT lordb said:

Dec 8, 2021 19:10:39 GMT hyaduck said:

That’s irrelevant, I’m looking at the money he has spent, Brown and Surridge who we’ll get ZERO return because they’re both POOR signings!!

You do understand that Brown has proven to vast majority of fans to be a good signing, hence his international call up.
This is what happens when you decide early that a young player is no got, you end up looking like a complete idiot when they improve which he absolutely has
Brown isn't a world beater but at Championship level he's become a good player.
If you want to go against the grain and say he's a poor signing you ought t back that up with reasoning.
As for Surridge again he's been here five minutes, he's going to improve that's what young players do.

It was a call up for Scotland FFS not Brazil, anyhow, if you think he’s a good player and we’ll recoup money you’re dafter than you think and you don’t know much about football!!

[Deleted]

The best thing about this, if there is a good thing,
The reported castle interest at 20 mill can only help to start a bidding war. Everton have been admiring Ty’s ability and must be others like Leicester possibly Villa & West Ham too.

But with that being said, hope he stays around a lot longer.

[Roger Everyone]

Dec 8, 2021 22:51:30 GMT AlbertTatlock said:

Dec 8, 2021 22:41:58 GMT Roger Everyone said:

In reality that's what will happen and its good business, not sure I would go for Ben Brereton.

Not sure why you wouldn't take a punt with Brereton, local lad, scoring for fun in a side that's not exactly setting the championship on fire, 17 goals in less than half a season, young loads of potential. What's not to like?

Gouranga.

I guess I would like to see more of him.
Could well be a good fit.

[Deleted]

Dec 9, 2021 1:57:55 GMT hyaduck said:

Dec 8, 2021 20:04:01 GMT lordb said:

You do understand that Brown has proven to vast majority of fans to be a good signing, hence his international call up.
This is what happens when you decide early that a young player is no got, you end up looking like a complete idiot when they improve which he absolutely has
Brown isn't a world beater but at Championship level he's become a good player.
If you want to go against the grain and say he's a poor signing you ought t back that up with reasoning.
As for Surridge again he's been here five minutes, he's going to improve that's what young players do.

It was a call up for Scotland FFS not Brazil, anyhow, if you think he’s a good player and we’ll recoup money you’re dafter than you think and you don’t know much about football!!

Massive irony alert.

[shakermaker]

Dec 7, 2021 19:26:57 GMT cheekymatt71 said:

Dec 7, 2021 19:19:07 GMT The Toxic Avenger said:

It’s not exactly a paper seller/click bait of a rumour to make up though?

And Howe is a longtime fan of the player.

Im sure Howe would like to get Campbell, and is genuinely interested.


But surely the fact the club is owned by Saudi billionaires will demand some marquee signings up front?


I would say chances of this happening are about 1 in 10.

However if a bid DOES arise he will be off like a rat up a drainpipe earning 100k + a week.


He will be on the C list for Newcastle owners when they try and fail to get Mbappe/Dembele etc

Maybe he has a clause in his contract allowing him to leave if a Prem club table a minimum bid…?

[Laughing Gravy]

Dec 9, 2021 16:52:17 GMT shakermaker said:

Dec 7, 2021 19:26:57 GMT cheekymatt71 said:

Im sure Howe would like to get Campbell, and is genuinely interested.


But surely the fact the club is owned by Saudi billionaires will demand some marquee signings up front?


I would say chances of this happening are about 1 in 10.

However if a bid DOES arise he will be off like a rat up a drainpipe earning 100k + a week.


He will be on the C list for Newcastle owners when they try and fail to get Mbappe/Dembele etc

Maybe he has a clause in his contract allowing him to leave if a Prem club table a minimum bid…?

I would have thought some of the player contract experts on here would have highlighted that already if it were true.

[armitage21]

Dec 9, 2021 1:57:55 GMT hyaduck said:

Dec 8, 2021 20:04:01 GMT lordb said:

You do understand that Brown has proven to vast majority of fans to be a good signing, hence his international call up.
This is what happens when you decide early that a young player is no got, you end up looking like a complete idiot when they improve which he absolutely has
Brown isn't a world beater but at Championship level he's become a good player.
If you want to go against the grain and say he's a poor signing you ought t back that up with reasoning.
As for Surridge again he's been here five minutes, he's going to improve that's what young players do.

It was a call up for Scotland FFS not Brazil, anyhow, if you think he’s a good player and we’ll recoup money you’re dafter than you think and you don’t know much about football!!

Does the fact that Arnie played for a very average Austria side have any bearing whatsoever on how good a player he was?
No-one is suggesting that Brown is a world beater. I'd say he's done pretty well, though. And, like others have said, who's to say he isn't going to get better? His touch already has.

[FullerMagic]

[jimmygscfc1234]

I can't see any Prem club buying him until he's proven his fitness so fully expect him to be with us for the rest of the season.

[xchpotter]

A bloke at work mentioned that West Brom were after him which I told him was bollocks. He was adamant he’d heard it somewhere. I’ve seen no links anywhere else, but there’s no way he’d go to them anyway.

[Clem Fandango]

Dec 10, 2021 17:23:18 GMT xchpotter said:

A bloke at work mentioned that West Brom were after him which I told him was bollocks. He was adamant he’d heard it somewhere. I’ve seen no links anywhere else, but there’s no way he’d go to them anyway.

I suppose these days you can’t write anything off but you’d hope if that was his best offer he’d be better off edging his bets here. he’s likely to start if fit and if he bags 10 goals between now and the end of the season he’s probably going to get an offer from somewhere in the prem if we don’t go up.

[AlbertTatlock]

Spoke yesterday to a Toon supporter I know and he says they are getting desperate for a new forward with Wilson and Maximin both injured and it looking like they will be out long term. He reckons that the rumour going round is that they will step up efforts to sign Campbell and another striker early in the transfer window. I did say that this would put another £10m on his price tag

Gouranga.

[Deleted]

Dec 29, 2021 12:34:46 GMT AlbertTatlock said:

Spoke yesterday to a Toon supporter I know and he says they are getting desperate for a new forward with Wilson and Maximin both injured and it looking like they will be out long term. He reckons that the rumour going round is that they will step up efforts to sign Campbell and another striker early in the transfer window. I did say that this would put another £10m on his price tag

Gouranga.

As much as I wouldn’t want to see Campbell leave, (who when Powell isn’t fit, is the only player that makes me shift in my seat when on the ball) if we were offered something like the £20 million spouted on here, we’d surely be mad to turn it down.

[GeneralFaye]

As much as I rate Tyrese, Newcastle with all the money they've got would be mad to buy him when relegation is a distinct possible. They'll sign someone with a proven record in January, the summer might be a different proposition.

[Laughing Gravy]

Dec 29, 2021 12:34:46 GMT AlbertTatlock said:

Spoke yesterday to a Toon supporter I know and he says they are getting desperate for a new forward with Wilson and Maximin both injured and it looking like they will be out long term. He reckons that the rumour going round is that they will step up efforts to sign Campbell and another striker early in the transfer window. I did say that this would put another £10m on his price tag

Gouranga.

It is possible but I suspect your run of the mill Toon fan knows about as much about their transfer dealings as we do about ours ie fuck all.
Newcastle look doomed to relegation with no guarantee of an immediate return (as we know). It is also possible we might pass them going the other way. If we do it is probable our owners could match any wages Toon were likely to offer. If we don’t and Tyrese has a decent second half of the season there will be plenty more suitors more comfortably established in the Prem coming calling.

[bayernoatcake]

Dec 29, 2021 12:45:10 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Dec 29, 2021 12:34:46 GMT AlbertTatlock said:

Spoke yesterday to a Toon supporter I know and he says they are getting desperate for a new forward with Wilson and Maximin both injured and it looking like they will be out long term. He reckons that the rumour going round is that they will step up efforts to sign Campbell and another striker early in the transfer window. I did say that this would put another £10m on his price tag

Gouranga.

It is possible but I suspect your run of the mill Toon fan knows about as much about their transfer dealings as we do about ours ie fuck all.
Newcastle look doomed to relegation with no guarantee of an immediate return (as we know). It is also possible we might pass them going the other way. If we do it is probable our owners could match any wages Toon were likely to offer. If we don’t and Tyrese has a decent second half of the season there will be plenty more suitors more comfortably established in the Prem coming calling.

It depends what money they’re offering.

20m and we’ll take that, we have to.

[Deleted]

Dec 29, 2021 12:44:37 GMT GeneralFaye said:

As much as I rate Tyrese, Newcastle with all the money they've got would be mad to buy him when relegation is a distinct possible. They'll sign someone with a proven record in January, the summer might be a different proposition.

Though they may not have too much of choice. Now they have a crazy amount of wealth, are basically bottom of the league and have no strikers, a “proven” striker will likely want an eye-watering amount of money (which would probably upset the whole squad as well). Could you see a premier league/ex-premier league star wanting to join in with a relegation battle?

[nonameface]

Dec 29, 2021 12:39:54 GMT @cvillestokie said:

Dec 29, 2021 12:34:46 GMT AlbertTatlock said:

Spoke yesterday to a Toon supporter I know and he says they are getting desperate for a new forward with Wilson and Maximin both injured and it looking like they will be out long term. He reckons that the rumour going round is that they will step up efforts to sign Campbell and another striker early in the transfer window. I did say that this would put another £10m on his price tag

Gouranga.

As much as I wouldn’t want to see Campbell leave, (who when Powell isn’t fit, is the only player that makes me shift in my seat when on the ball) if we were offered something like the £20 million spouted on here, we’d surely be mad to turn it down.

Pre-injury if we had been offered £20m it would have been too low; he was looking a stand out player at a fairly young age.

He hasnt had enough time to show if he's the same player yet, but fortunately his pace doesnt seem impacted. That said after looking rusty for the first few games (massively to be expected) he's starting to show his class.

If his balance or agility has gone and don't look like returning then £20m is a price we should look to accept.

[FullerMagic]

I was thinking the other day when Wilson and ASM got injured that a good, British Champ striker may turn out to be the best they can do in the circumstances - unless they can get someone in on loan.

[GeneralFaye]

Dec 29, 2021 12:49:59 GMT @cvillestokie said:

Dec 29, 2021 12:44:37 GMT GeneralFaye said:

As much as I rate Tyrese, Newcastle with all the money they've got would be mad to buy him when relegation is a distinct possible. They'll sign someone with a proven record in January, the summer might be a different proposition.

Though they may not have too much of choice. Now they have a crazy amount of wealth, are basically bottom of the league and have no strikers, a “proven” striker will likely want an eye-watering amount of money (which would probably upset the whole squad as well). Could you see a premier league/ex-premier league star wanting to join in with a relegation battle?

Yep, the pull of playing in the Premier League for a shed load of money does funny things to mercenary type footballers you know, we had many of them in our latter stay in that league. Some work, some don't.. it's gamble season for Newcastle whichever way they turn.

[Laughing Gravy]

Dec 29, 2021 12:49:44 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Dec 29, 2021 12:45:10 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

It is possible but I suspect your run of the mill Toon fan knows about as much about their transfer dealings as we do about ours ie fuck all.
Newcastle look doomed to relegation with no guarantee of an immediate return (as we know). It is also possible we might pass them going the other way. If we do it is probable our owners could match any wages Toon were likely to offer. If we don’t and Tyrese has a decent second half of the season there will be plenty more suitors more comfortably established in the Prem coming calling.

It depends what money they’re offering.

20m and we’ll take that, we have to.

I was thinking more if from Tyrese’s point of view.
£20 m night just be acceptable to us but would Newcastle be acceptable or even the right move for him?
I don’t think so.
I suppose what might be hoving into view on the FFP front might dictate our decision as well.

[gingerninja]

I think if they come knocking with say £25 million, it would be very hard to turn down.

[Deleted]

Dec 29, 2021 12:53:49 GMT GeneralFaye said:

Dec 29, 2021 12:49:59 GMT @cvillestokie said:

Though they may not have too much of choice. Now they have a crazy amount of wealth, are basically bottom of the league and have no strikers, a “proven” striker will likely want an eye-watering amount of money (which would probably upset the whole squad as well). Could you see a premier league/ex-premier league star wanting to join in with a relegation battle?

Yep, the pull of playing in the Premier League for a shed load of money does funny things to mercenary type footballers you know, we had many of them in our latter stay in that league. Some work, some don't.. it's gamble season for Newcastle whichever way they turn.

Sorry, when you said proven, I assumed you meant, proven in the Premier League. That’s a very small window of players, in my opinion, most of whom are likely already on goof contracts at much better teams.

You are right, no matter what they do, it will be a gamble. I’m actually more intrigued to see what they will do in the January window than Stoke, given that I expect very little from the latter.

[bayernoatcake]

Dec 29, 2021 12:54:21 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

Dec 29, 2021 12:49:44 GMT bayernoatcake said:

It depends what money they’re offering.

20m and we’ll take that, we have to.

I was thinking more if from Tyrese’s point of view.
£20 m night just be acceptable to us but would Newcastle be acceptable or even the right move for him?
I don’t think so.
I suppose what might be hoving into view on the FFP front might dictate our decision as well.

Big club.

Double your wage.

Better chance of going up.

[FullerMagic]

Yeah, I think Campbell would jump at the prospect, to be honest.

Even if they go down, they're going to be a promotion juggernaut next season

[tqstokie]

Yes we could get three wardrobes for that and have some change.

[Laughing Gravy]

Dec 29, 2021 12:59:04 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Dec 29, 2021 12:54:21 GMT Laughing Gravy said:

I was thinking more if from Tyrese’s point of view.
£20 m night just be acceptable to us but would Newcastle be acceptable or even the right move for him?
I don’t think so.
I suppose what might be hoving into view on the FFP front might dictate our decision as well.

Big club.

Double your wage.

Better chance of going up.

I get that but I think it’d still be a massive gamble on his part.

I suppose if he can get a 5 year contract on £50k a week with no relegation clause then fair play £13m over the next 5 years is not to be sniffed at especially as potentially (as he knows) they are only one game away from a career ending injury.

[pottersrule]

Dec 29, 2021 12:53:28 GMT FullerMagic said:

I was thinking the other day when Wilson and ASM got injured that a good, British Champ striker may turn out to be the best they can do in the circumstances - unless they can get someone in on loan.

I think Brereton Diaz would be favourite if they go down the championship route.

[a]

Dec 29, 2021 12:44:37 GMT GeneralFaye said:

As much as I rate Tyrese, Newcastle with all the money they've got would be mad to buy him when relegation is a distinct possible. They'll sign someone with a proven record in January, the summer might be a different proposition.

Unless of course they are preparing for the Champo in a bid to bounce back up?

Lots of proven players might not fancy a relegation battle, plus Ty is Homegrown and will free up a spot for a foreign player, plus he has age and potential on his side.

It could easily happen, as they know he knows this league and is potentially on the way to being a prem player?