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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 16, 2021 12:26:03 GMT
Just denied a tap in via an og.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 16, 2021 13:15:24 GMT
Just scored a nice goal to put England three up
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Post by potterburt on Oct 16, 2021 13:15:30 GMT
Great goal, did well playing through 3 defenders with one of them hanging off him. 3-0
Be good if the cameraman could chill out a bit, jeez!
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 16, 2021 13:17:12 GMT
Just scored a nice goal to put England three up A real talent,the way he makes room and finds space is incredible.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 21, 2021 6:17:25 GMT
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 21, 2021 6:45:25 GMT
I hadn't realised he was so close to being able to sign a pro contract.
Hopefully, he and his parents do entrust his immediate future to Stoke and he signs the contract when it is offered. If he does, his future value to the club may make the money Burnley paid for Collins look like peanuts.
Fingers crossed!
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Post by potterburt on Oct 21, 2021 7:13:07 GMT
Sounds like the club and (nice to see) O’Neil have a big blunt knife and a giant pack of Lurpak to do some good buttering up.
It’s telling that it’s come from MoN, shows how involved/intrenched he is with the long term plan 🙏🏻
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Post by themistocles on Oct 21, 2021 7:16:00 GMT
He'd be silly to accept a contract straight off the bat in reality.
Hopefully he doesn't have an agent yet..
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 21, 2021 7:34:49 GMT
He'd be silly to accept a contract straight off the bat in reality. Hopefully he doesn't have an agent yet.. I am not sure you are right. For every player who moves to a top Premier League club to sign his first contract, who shines and gets regular first team football at an early age, there will be another who waits years for a first team chance simply because the queue of players ahead of them is so long. Emre and his family are Stokies and live locally. If our contract offer is fair and offers a planned career path to the first team he may well find that it is a better option for the next few years than signing for Chelsea or whoever. Don't forget he will have trained with and spoken to Ty Campbell who left Man City (arguably one of the richest 3 or 4 clubs in the world) to sign a pro contract with Stoke City, who appeared to Ty and his dad to offer a better route to first team football. I think the question of an agent is largely irrelevant at this time. Emre and his family will have been well aware for a year or two of the decision to be made on his first contract. As a regular scorer for England youth teams they will also be well aware of his future potential. All an agent MIGHT be able to do would be to maximise his earnings from his first contract. An agent would be no better able to plot a rapid path to first team football than Emre and his family should be.
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Post by potterburt on Oct 21, 2021 9:58:02 GMT
He'd be silly to accept a contract straight off the bat in reality. Hopefully he doesn't have an agent yet.. I am not sure you are right. For every player who moves to a Premier League club to sign his first contract, who shines and gets regular first team football at an early age, there will be another who waits years for a first team chance simply because the queue of players ahead of them is so long. Emre and his family are Stokies and live locally. If our contract offer is fair and offers a planned career path to the first team he may well find that it is a better option for the next few years than signing for Chelsea or whoever. Don't forget he will have trained with and spoken to Ty Campbell who left Man City (arguably one of the richest 3 or 4 clubs in the world) to sign a pro contract with Stoke City, who appeared to Ty and his dad to offer a better route to first team football. I think the question of an agent is largely irrelevant at this time. Emre and his family will have been well aware for a year or two of the decision to be made on his first contract. As a regular scorer for England youth teams they will also be well aware of his future potential. All an agent MIGHT be able to do would be to maximise his earnings from his first contract. An agent would be no better able to plot a rapid path to first team football than Emre and his family should be. Nicely said on our clout over the big boys Lakeland. I’ve wondered if we’ve come into bit of an era of realisation from the past 10-15 years. It seemed the big clubs just swooped up every young talent they could and you are now starting to see players e.g like Nathan Baker at Chelsea at 26 never having done or been anywhere (there’s a plethora of others) I think it would be naive to think that Emre (or more likely his family) have not been or are not involved with an agent. Even just on a consultant basis. Agents just the same as clubs will be scouting their potential next client/player down at the youngest realms of football.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Oct 21, 2021 10:21:27 GMT
I would hope that MON would have a chat with Emre and his parents very soon and try to persuade them that he is in a good place at the moment within the present coaching team. I think he is probably more likely to progress through the age groups and maybe to the bench/First team towards the end of that period than if he were at a bigger club. The last place he should go to, in my opinion is Chelsea. If, by that time a big club came in and offered serious money and he wanted to move, then he should be given an assurance that the club would not stand in his way. By that time, hopefully, we might be in the Premier League ourselves. You heard it here first, though perhaps after recent results the Premier League may seem a more distant prospect!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 21, 2021 11:04:52 GMT
He’ll be on the bench for the Brentford game (half term so no early finish at school either).
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Post by RF10 on Oct 21, 2021 11:12:24 GMT
He’ll be on the bench for the Brentford game (half term so no early finish at school either). Is this a guess?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 21, 2021 11:26:16 GMT
I am not sure you are right. For every player who moves to a Premier League club to sign his first contract, who shines and gets regular first team football at an early age, there will be another who waits years for a first team chance simply because the queue of players ahead of them is so long. Emre and his family are Stokies and live locally. If our contract offer is fair and offers a planned career path to the first team he may well find that it is a better option for the next few years than signing for Chelsea or whoever. Don't forget he will have trained with and spoken to Ty Campbell who left Man City (arguably one of the richest 3 or 4 clubs in the world) to sign a pro contract with Stoke City, who appeared to Ty and his dad to offer a better route to first team football. I think the question of an agent is largely irrelevant at this time. Emre and his family will have been well aware for a year or two of the decision to be made on his first contract. As a regular scorer for England youth teams they will also be well aware of his future potential. All an agent MIGHT be able to do would be to maximise his earnings from his first contract. An agent would be no better able to plot a rapid path to first team football than Emre and his family should be. Nicely said on our clout over the big boys Lakeland. I’ve wondered if we’ve come into bit of an era of realisation from the past 10-15 years. It seemed the big clubs just swooped up every young talent they could and you are now starting to see players e.g like Nathan Baker at Chelsea at 26 never having done or been anywhere (there’s a plethora of others) I think it would be naive to think that Emre (or more likely his family) have not been or are not involved with an agent. Even just on a consultant basis. Agents just the same as clubs will be scouting their potential next client/player down at the youngest realms of football. I am not suggesting that Emre doesn't have (or hasn't started negotiations to get) an agent. I guess what I am saying is that Emre's chances of early first team football won't be decided by his agent. Agent's tend to be good at maximising the earnings on a contract (because that also means a bigger cut for the agent) but early career progression is often down to the decisions made by a young player and his family. I doubt very much if Ty Campbell's move from Man City will have been much to do with the efforts of his agent and everything to do with what Ty and his father decided was his best career option at the time.
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Post by themistocles on Oct 21, 2021 11:31:45 GMT
He’ll be on the bench for the Brentford game (half term so no early finish at school either). [b Nooo we should be hiding him until he signs a contract.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 21, 2021 12:03:03 GMT
He’ll be on the bench for the Brentford game (half term so no early finish at school either). Is this a guess? Yes, I've been told that MON is ready to put him in the matchday squad asap and with a couple of injuries/players rested I just think we'll see him for that particular game.......
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 21, 2021 12:05:42 GMT
He'd be silly to accept a contract straight off the bat in reality. Hopefully he doesn't have an agent yet.. I am not sure you are right. For every player who moves to a top Premier League club to sign his first contract, who shines and gets regular first team football at an early age, there will be another who waits years for a first team chance simply because the queue of players ahead of them is so long. Emre and his family are Stokies and live locally. If our contract offer is fair and offers a planned career path to the first team he may well find that it is a better option for the next few years than signing for Chelsea or whoever. Don't forget he will have trained with and spoken to Ty Campbell who left Man City (arguably one of the richest 3 or 4 clubs in the world) to sign a pro contract with Stoke City, who appeared to Ty and his dad to offer a better route to first team football. I think the question of an agent is largely irrelevant at this time. Emre and his family will have been well aware for a year or two of the decision to be made on his first contract. As a regular scorer for England youth teams they will also be well aware of his future potential. All an agent MIGHT be able to do would be to maximise his earnings from his first contract. An agent would be no better able to plot a rapid path to first team football than Emre and his family should be. Clubs like Chelsea and Man Citeh will also have 1 or 2 players of similar ability to him in every age group from 10 upwards, look at Chelsea right backs at one point they had Reece James, Lamptey (now at Brighton), Livrimato (now at Southampton), Sterling and at least one more all around the first team all of them potential England right backs. Striker is also the hardest position to break into a top 4 team, look at Abraham bombed out by a manager who wanted the finished article as he knows he will only get a few years as manager.
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Post by Jimm on Oct 21, 2021 15:32:31 GMT
Man United are after him, apparently
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Post by stokefc on Oct 21, 2021 15:46:15 GMT
Man United are after him, apparently Well they can fuck right off the smelly fuckers
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Post by somersetstokie on Oct 22, 2021 12:59:04 GMT
I hope we don't have another Sanko type situation, and can tie Emre to a promising future at the club.
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Post by silverdollar on Oct 22, 2021 13:09:25 GMT
One of my brothers was playing for Staffordshire u16’s when he was 12, didn’t do him any harm whatsoever in fact the older lads took really good care of him and he relished at that level so much so that he was pretty quickly snapped up by Alan O’Court from memory and playing with Beeston, Maskery, Shaw but from what I remember him telling me Ronnie Jepson was the far better player but O’Court was quite pally with certain players families. I could be wrong but my experience as a coach of Stafforshire Schools for several years informed me that this was just not permitted. An UnderSixteen under ESFA rules is not permitted to play at Under 18 level and prior to that players are allowed to play at one year up but no further than that. These rules are clearly cited in the ESFA Handbook.
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Post by questionable on Oct 22, 2021 14:16:51 GMT
One of my brothers was playing for Staffordshire u16’s when he was 12, didn’t do him any harm whatsoever in fact the older lads took really good care of him and he relished at that level so much so that he was pretty quickly snapped up by Alan O’Court from memory and playing with Beeston, Maskery, Shaw but from what I remember him telling me Ronnie Jepson was the far better player but O’Court was quite pally with certain players families. I could be wrong but my experience as a coach of Stafforshire Schools for several years informed me that this was just not permitted. An UnderSixteen under ESFA rules is not permitted to play at Under 18 level and prior to that players are allowed to play at one year up but no further than that. These rules are clearly cited in the ESFA Handbook. It’d have been 42 years ago now though, 100% as they took him out of school.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 22, 2021 15:28:06 GMT
Man United are after him, apparently Well they can fuck right off the smelly fuckers Never forgiven for taking Sir James of Greenhoff from us
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Post by dirtclod on Oct 22, 2021 15:31:41 GMT
Well I hope he listened to Elvis Costello and doesn't want to go to Chelsea.
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 22, 2021 15:40:40 GMT
Tie him down......I mean, literally tie him down....he can't leave then.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 22, 2021 16:09:50 GMT
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 22, 2021 16:18:57 GMT
Tezgel didn't start the game - only subbed on in the 57th minute with the score 2-0 to Slovakia.
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 22, 2021 16:53:43 GMT
Well they can fuck right off the smelly fuckers Never forgiven for taking Sir James of Greenhoff from us Still narks me n all……
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Post by leicspotter on Oct 22, 2021 17:42:14 GMT
He certainly seemed to be heavily involved once he came on...at least judging by the number of times his name got mentioned on this
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Post by andystokey on Oct 22, 2021 18:09:45 GMT
Whenever a teenage prodigy is mentioned and when talking about how to get him in the team I'm always reminded of the brilliant Barry Hines book The Blinder. We read it at school until some busy body dobbed our English teacher in to the Sentinel. A furore ensued about literature, censorship and art and it was banned. The lad in the book is a working class lad who is a bit of a gobshite, shagger, fighter and all round teenage knob. However he is a football prodigy who gets away with all sorts because of his football. It's a brilliant book, better in my view than a Kestrel for a Knave. More raw and relevant to a snot nose like me at the time. Obviously not a comment on Emre but I seem to remember the manager or chairman bunged him some money to play, off the books. Blokes of my era at school might remember. A brilliant read by a great Northern author. Made me realise not all books are boring. www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/mar/25/barry-hines-football-kes-the-blinder
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