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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 24, 2021 10:11:06 GMT
Fantastic interview, he sounds like a man who knows where he'll be playing next season . |
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Post by Turkish Delight on Sept 24, 2021 15:10:24 GMT
I'm on one of those photos.... đ
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Post by stokeuk474 on Oct 28, 2021 11:12:59 GMT
What do we make of this lad? I was encouraged at the start of the season, as I thought we needed a typical skin head, nasty, no nonsense proper defender, but just recently he's been really sluggish, slow, off the pace. Last night(and he wasn't alone in this) he hardly made a tackle or got close to anyone.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2021 11:16:36 GMT
I think he's been poor to average from the get go and couldn't get why so many seemed to really rate him bar being won over by the chest thumping.
He needs to improve a lot.
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Post by maine on Oct 28, 2021 12:01:42 GMT
I wonder what Soutter makes of continually having to cover for the two alongside him? Both Ostigard and Wilmott hit elegant looking passes to no-one. I'd far prefer Baath's no-nonsense clearances.
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Post by march4 on Oct 28, 2021 12:09:51 GMT
I like his commitment but he struggles on the ball.
However, he is better than Wilmot.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 28, 2021 12:20:32 GMT
Another recruitment issue the whole Summer is looking like a disaster on the incoming front , Vranic the only one who can be seen to have added real value, chucking money at people to leave the easy but but the old issues just keep coming back the recruitment process fails fails and fails again
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 12:55:36 GMT
He's 21 and has played less than 50 games in the Championship so far. People moaned that we weren't signing young, hungry, athletic players and then when we do, they moan that they make the mistakes that all young players do.
Ostigard is already at Championship standard at 21, he will probably get a bit better than he is currently as he gets older. If he didn't cost much in the summer (how long does he have left with Brighton?) I'd be more than happy if we got rid of Batth and Chester and brought him in alongside integrating both Taylor and Forrester.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 28, 2021 13:01:18 GMT
Heâs a solid player, ffs stop moaning
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Post by stokeuk474 on Oct 28, 2021 13:53:16 GMT
He's 21 and has played less than 50 games in the Championship so far. People moaned that we weren't signing young, hungry, athletic players and then when we do, they moan that they make the mistakes that all young players do. Ostigard is already at Championship standard at 21, he will probably get a bit better than he is currently as he gets older. If he didn't cost much in the summer (how long does he have left with Brighton?) I'd be more than happy if we got rid of Batth and Chester and brought him in alongside integrating both Taylor and Forrester. For me, it's nothing to do with the fact that we weren't signing, young athletic, hungry players, or that he makes the odd mistake, it's the fact that is he even particularly athletic? Is he tall enough to play there? I thought he was supposed to be an aggressive player, but he's played like it's U11's so far. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 13:57:07 GMT
He's 21 and has played less than 50 games in the Championship so far. People moaned that we weren't signing young, hungry, athletic players and then when we do, they moan that they make the mistakes that all young players do. Ostigard is already at Championship standard at 21, he will probably get a bit better than he is currently as he gets older. If he didn't cost much in the summer (how long does he have left with Brighton?) I'd be more than happy if we got rid of Batth and Chester and brought him in alongside integrating both Taylor and Forrester. For me, it's nothing to do with the fact that we weren't signing, young athletic, hungry players, or that he makes the odd mistake, it's the fact that is he even particularly athletic? Is he tall enough to play there? I thought he was supposed to be an aggressive player, but he's played like it's U11's so far. I would say he was more athletic (agile and faster) than what we had (Chester and Batth). Heâs also 6 foot and half an inch (1.84m) according to transfermarkt. How tall do you think he has to be in a back three alongside someone like Souttar or Batth? |
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Post by christhepotter on Oct 28, 2021 13:58:11 GMT
Heâs better than Bath and Chesters
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2021 14:03:13 GMT
He's 21 and has played less than 50 games in the Championship so far. People moaned that we weren't signing young, hungry, athletic players and then when we do, they moan that they make the mistakes that all young players do. Ostigard is already at Championship standard at 21, he will probably get a bit better than he is currently as he gets older. If he didn't cost much in the summer (how long does he have left with Brighton?) I'd be more than happy if we got rid of Batth and Chester and brought him in alongside integrating both Taylor and Forrester. Loans from PL clubs need to be difference makers. He's just ok. I think that matters. Very much like the meh loan signings last season. Like RND, Matondo and Clarke I wouldn't sign him permanantly unless he was very very cheap. |
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Post by stokeuk474 on Oct 28, 2021 14:07:33 GMT
For me, it's nothing to do with the fact that we weren't signing, young athletic, hungry players, or that he makes the odd mistake, it's the fact that is he even particularly athletic? Is he tall enough to play there? I thought he was supposed to be an aggressive player, but he's played like it's U11's so far. I would say he was more athletic (agile and faster) than what we had (Chester and Batth). Heâs also 6 foot and half an inch (1.84m) according to transfermarkt. How tall do you think he has to be in a back three alongside someone like Souttar or Batth? I suppose he is just about tall enough, and playing next to Souttar will make anyone look small  He's deffo more mobile than Chester, and probably Batth, but I like Batth's no nonsense attitude, he's a proper defender and gives us a threat in the opposition box too. I just feel we need some steel in the team at the moment, we're too soft and it's easy for teams like Millwall to turn us over. That shouldn't be happening. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Oct 28, 2021 14:15:20 GMT
I would say he was more athletic (agile and faster) than what we had (Chester and Batth). Heâs also 6 foot and half an inch (1.84m) according to transfermarkt. How tall do you think he has to be in a back three alongside someone like Souttar or Batth? I suppose he is just about tall enough, and playing next to Souttar will make anyone look small He's deffo more mobile than Chester, and probably Batth, but I like Batth's no nonsense attitude, he's a proper defender and gives us a threat in the opposition box too. I just feel we need some steel in the team at the moment, we're too soft and it's easy for teams like Millwall to turn us over. That shouldn't be happening. The trouble with Batth is that for every brave header he makes there is a woeful pass which gives the ball to the opposition in our half. It 's not as if he tries ambitious passes either. His long passing is definitely kick and hope and his first thought is to kick or head the ball into the stand. He is also prone to real howlers of mistakes. Good cover but not a player you can play if you want to build from the back. |
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Post by stokeuk474 on Oct 28, 2021 14:21:47 GMT
I suppose he is just about tall enough, and playing next to Souttar will make anyone look small He's deffo more mobile than Chester, and probably Batth, but I like Batth's no nonsense attitude, he's a proper defender and gives us a threat in the opposition box too. I just feel we need some steel in the team at the moment, we're too soft and it's easy for teams like Millwall to turn us over. That shouldn't be happening. The trouble with Batth is that for every brave header he makes there is a woeful pass which gives the ball to the opposition in our half. It 's not as if he tries ambitious passes either. His long passing is definitely kick and hope and his first thought is to kick or head the ball into the stand. He is also prone to real howlers of mistakes. Good cover but not a player you can play if you want to build from the back. With the way the back 3 were pi$$ing about with it last night, giving it straight to Toney on the edge of our box, I would rather have Batth hoofing it into their half at the moment, just until we can regain some sort of confidence/composure. |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 28, 2021 14:48:13 GMT
I think he's been poor to average from the get go and couldn't get why so many seemed to really rate him bar being won over by the chest thumping. He needs to improve a lot. He was highly rated by Coventry fans after his loan spell there last season. They were gutted he was joining us & not re-signing for them. Guessing when a player comes with that kind of endorsement it does kind of make fans of his new club think they've signed a gem |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Oct 28, 2021 15:47:41 GMT
I think he's been poor to average from the get go and couldn't get why so many seemed to really rate him bar being won over by the chest thumping. He needs to improve a lot. Think a good number of our support do fall for the chest pumping and look at a player and if he fits their desired image of someone they'd go to the pub with..he quickly becomes a favourite before actually proving himself on the pitch. Have to say though ostigaard is still v young for a cb at championship level. He will make mistakes but like souttar and Wilmcot he will improve.. I also think he, souttar and Wilmcot are better already than Liam Lindsay, so I do think we have improved the defensive quality of our squad. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 15:50:13 GMT
He's 21 and has played less than 50 games in the Championship so far. People moaned that we weren't signing young, hungry, athletic players and then when we do, they moan that they make the mistakes that all young players do. Ostigard is already at Championship standard at 21, he will probably get a bit better than he is currently as he gets older. If he didn't cost much in the summer (how long does he have left with Brighton?) I'd be more than happy if we got rid of Batth and Chester and brought him in alongside integrating both Taylor and Forrester. Loans from PL clubs need to be difference makers. He's just ok. I think that matters. Very much like the meh loan signings last season. Like RND, Matondo and Clarke I wouldn't sign him permanantly unless he was very very cheap. You keep saying this Bayern, but realistically there is a big difference between need and actuality. The majority of loans from Premier League clubs to Championship teams are not âdifference makersâ. How many loans are currently playing in the Championship? What percentage of those will be ranked in the team of the year at the end of the season? Most are works in progress when it comes to youngsters who, if they were good enough to rip up the Championship at a young age, would likely be loaned to a lower league Premier side instead, or they are older players in need of a fresh start. We needed another centre back for a back three who wasnât old and injured (Chester) or slow (Batth) and so we brought one in whose not much better or worse than any other centre back in the division and we likely brought him in at relatively minimal cost. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2021 16:18:20 GMT
I think he's been poor to average from the get go and couldn't get why so many seemed to really rate him bar being won over by the chest thumping. He needs to improve a lot. He was highly rated by Coventry fans after his loan spell there last season. They were gutted he was joining us & not re-signing for them. Guessing when a player comes with that kind of endorsement it does kind of make fans of his new club think they've signed a gem Yeah I read what they thought and did think heâd be mustard tbh. But I just donât think he is. Heâs ok. I think we have better prospects in Forrester and Taylor long term. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2021 16:19:21 GMT
Loans from PL clubs need to be difference makers. He's just ok. I think that matters. Very much like the meh loan signings last season. Like RND, Matondo and Clarke I wouldn't sign him permanantly unless he was very very cheap. You keep saying this Bayern, but realistically there is a big difference between need and actuality. The majority of loans from Premier League clubs to Championship teams are not âdifference makersâ. How many loans are currently playing in the Championship? What percentage of those will be ranked in the team of the year at the end of the season? Most are works in progress when it comes to youngsters who, if they were good enough to rip up the Championship at a young age, would likely be loaned to a lower league Premier side instead, or they are older players in need of a fresh start. We needed another centre back for a back three who wasnât old and injured (Chester) or slow (Batth) and so we brought one in whose not much better or worse than any other centre back in the division and we likely brought him in at relatively minimal cost. I think Forrester is better as is. And I do keep saying it because itâs true. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 28, 2021 16:22:06 GMT
I think he's been poor to average from the get go and couldn't get why so many seemed to really rate him bar being won over by the chest thumping. He needs to improve a lot. Think a good number of our support do fall for the chest pumping and look at a player and if he fits their desired image of someone they'd go to the pub with..he quickly becomes a favourite before actually proving himself on the pitch. Have to say though ostigaard is still v young for a cb at championship level. He will make mistakes but like souttar and Wilmcot he will improve.. I also think he, souttar and Wilmcot are better already than Liam Lindsay, so I do think we have improved the defensive quality of our squad. He is better than Lindsay but heâs not better than Collins. And Iâm not convinced heâs better than Forrester either. Thereâs a good point made above about the expectation due to reading what the Coventry fans thought. But Iâm not drawn to him. He does remind me of RND in that respect. Just bland and could do better. |
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Post by shakermaker on Oct 28, 2021 16:31:09 GMT
I think he's been poor to average from the get go and couldn't get why so many seemed to really rate him bar being won over by the chest thumping. He needs to improve a lot. He was highly rated by Coventry fans after his loan spell there last season. They were gutted he was joining us & not re-signing for them. Guessing when a player comes with that kind of endorsement it does kind of make fans of his new club think they've signed a gem Don't forget, this was in League 1. Liam Lindsay came with a 'Hansen-esque' reputation too, and look how that panned out. The jump from League 1 to Championship is a different ball game much in the same way as going from Championship to Premier League. |
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Post by AlliG on Oct 28, 2021 16:35:30 GMT
He was highly rated by Coventry fans after his loan spell there last season. They were gutted he was joining us & not re-signing for them. Guessing when a player comes with that kind of endorsement it does kind of make fans of his new club think they've signed a gem Liam Lindsay came with a 'Hansen-esque' reputation too, and look how that panned out. The jump from League 1 to Championship is a different ball game much in the same way as going from Championship to Premier League. When did we get relegated to League 1, because I am sure we played Coventry last season.  |
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Post by shakermaker on Oct 28, 2021 16:39:28 GMT
Don't forget, this was in League 1. Liam Lindsay came with a 'Hansen-esque' reputation too, and look how that panned out. The jump from League 1 to Championship is a different ball game much in the same way as going from Championship to Premier League. When did we get relegated to League 1, because I am sure we played Coventry last season. Sorry, I'm being a div. Last season was so forgettable for me I didn't even recall who we played as the performances were generally dire whoever the opposition! |
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Post by hyaduck on Oct 30, 2021 3:19:47 GMT
I'm liking the direction of our transfer strategy this season it has to be said, why oh why did we not do this after relegation? (rhetorical no need for the debate again? ) Move on three months and we realise youâre not liking the direction of our transfer strategy. He has bought some absolute cack |
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 30, 2021 5:27:17 GMT
You keep saying this Bayern, but realistically there is a big difference between need and actuality. The majority of loans from Premier League clubs to Championship teams are not âdifference makersâ. How many loans are currently playing in the Championship? What percentage of those will be ranked in the team of the year at the end of the season? Most are works in progress when it comes to youngsters who, if they were good enough to rip up the Championship at a young age, would likely be loaned to a lower league Premier side instead, or they are older players in need of a fresh start. We needed another centre back for a back three who wasnât old and injured (Chester) or slow (Batth) and so we brought one in whose not much better or worse than any other centre back in the division and we likely brought him in at relatively minimal cost. I think Forrester is better as is. And I do keep saying it because itâs true. Forrester can't seem to stay free from injury. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 30, 2021 6:40:15 GMT
I'm liking the direction of our transfer strategy this season it has to be said, why oh why did we not do this after relegation? (rhetorical no need for the debate again? ) Move on three months and we realise youâre not liking the direction of our transfer strategy. He has bought some absolute cack Except I am stillâŠâŠ. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 30, 2021 7:20:38 GMT
I really like Batth, but I can accept that ĂstigĂ„rd is picked ahead of him because of mobility and quality on the ball, I'm not too impressed by Leo on the ball either though, but playing Chester instead of Batth is something I really dislike. Batth is probably our strongest player in the air, and one of the best to protect the box too. Chester on the other hand is weak as piss in the air, and makes a lot of mistakes on the ball as well. In addition he is also awfully slow! I know Batth isn't the fastest, but he seems to be able to get a tackle in ever so often despite of his lack of pace. I wish I could say the same about Chester, but I actually can't see that Chester has any strengths any longer! I really rate MON, but picking Chester time after time really baffles me!  |
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Post by citynickscfc on Oct 30, 2021 7:45:26 GMT
I really like Batth, but I can accept that ĂstigĂ„rd is picked ahead of him because of mobility and quality on the ball, I'm not too impressed by Leo on the ball either though, but playing Chester instead of Batth is something I really dislike. Batth is probably our strongest player in the air, and one of the best to protect the box too. Chester on the other hand is weak as piss in the air, and makes a lot of mistakes on the ball as well. In addition he is also awfully slow! I know Batth isn't the fastest, but he seems to be able to get a tackle in ever so often despite of his lack of pace. I wish I could say the same about Chester, but I actually can't see that Chester has any strengths any longer! I really rate MON, but picking Chester time after time really baffles me! Could it be that we simply have too many confidence players? Leo seems to thrive like bojan, from affection. He probably reads this board too...(it's a media generation thing). When we are doing well the teams confidence is high and we do really well, then inevitably form dips, along with confidence. That's when you need ability players with motivation. Ours seen fragile. I hate to say it but look at Joe đ€·ââïž |
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