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Post by partickpotter on Jul 20, 2021 5:45:11 GMT
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Carry on. Great debating skills. Is the Spectator site down or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Carry on. And on. And on. And on.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 20, 2021 6:39:57 GMT
All discrimination is wrong... that's my stance.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 20, 2021 9:29:12 GMT
All discrimination is wrong... that's my stance. What about discrimination against discriminators?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 20, 2021 9:34:03 GMT
All discrimination is wrong... that's my stance. What about discrimination against discriminators? I've made my statement.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 20, 2021 9:46:43 GMT
All discrimination is wrong... that's my stance. Amen to that……
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2023 20:26:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2023 20:44:19 GMT
Something seriously wrong when a mainstream broadcaster like Sky , can't tolerate somebody ( Matt le tissier ) seeing an issue from a different perspective to themselves.
Worrying
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2023 20:49:18 GMT
Something seriously wrong when a mainstream broadcaster like Sky , can't tolerate somebody ( Matt le tissier ) seeing an issue from a different perspective to themselves. Worrying What’s this got to do with racism? 🤣
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 21, 2023 21:09:25 GMT
Something seriously wrong when a mainstream broadcaster like Sky , can't tolerate somebody ( Matt le tissier ) seeing an issue from a different perspective to themselves. Worrying Can’t disagree with much there
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Post by Rick Grimes on May 21, 2023 21:10:42 GMT
It’s terrible and has no place in society.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 21, 2023 21:37:11 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on May 21, 2023 22:25:25 GMT
The game should have been stopped to show solidarity with the player. This abuse should not be tolerated. These people are vile. The victim’s mental health should be a priority here
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2023 22:38:44 GMT
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Post by kerouac on May 21, 2023 22:58:44 GMT
Bull murdering racist cunts…..
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on May 22, 2023 6:13:09 GMT
I was at the Mestella last night and wanted Valencia to win before kick off. However, after 15 minutes or so I was wanting Real Madrid to win as much as I have ever wanted Stoke to win.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 22, 2023 6:15:43 GMT
I was at the Mestella last night and wanted Valencia to win before kick off. However, after 15 minutes or so I was wanting Real Madrid to win as much as I have ever wanted Stoke to win. Was that because of the home crowd?
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on May 22, 2023 6:23:04 GMT
I was at the Mestella last night and wanted Valencia to win before kick off. However, after 15 minutes or so I was wanting Real Madrid to win as much as I have ever wanted Stoke to win. Was that because of the home crowd? Absolutely mate. I actually pretended to slip off the step on my way out and firmly put my elbow in the back of the head of the twat who was sitting in front of me. Made me feel better for a moment or two.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 22, 2023 6:53:49 GMT
Was that because of the home crowd? Absolutely mate. I actually pretended to slip off the step on my way out and firmly put my elbow in the back of the head of the twat who was sitting in front of me. Made me feel better for a moment or two. Vini Jr seemed to be singling out one person in the crowd. Was it more prominent than tha?
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Post by Veritas on May 22, 2023 7:05:56 GMT
Absolutely mate. I actually pretended to slip off the step on my way out and firmly put my elbow in the back of the head of the twat who was sitting in front of me. Made me feel better for a moment or two. Vini Jr seemed to be singling out one person in the crowd. Was it more prominent than tha? Seemed to be pretty much the whole stadium chanting at him. Something significant has to happen, I am loathe to deduct points for crowd misbaviour but we may need to do it, a starting point of no supporters for a few games might be required.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 22, 2023 7:12:31 GMT
Vini Jr seemed to be singling out one person in the crowd. Was it more prominent than tha? Seemed to be pretty much the whole stadium chanting at him. Something significant has to happen, I am loathe to deduct points for crowd misbaviour but we may need to do it, a starting point of no supporters for a few games might be required. Start next season with a 5 point deduction. Plus two first home games behind closed doors
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Post by Bera’s Beano on May 22, 2023 7:19:47 GMT
Seemed to be pretty much the whole stadium chanting at him. Something significant has to happen, I am loathe to deduct points for crowd misbaviour but we may need to do it, a starting point of no supporters for a few games might be required. Start next season with a 5 point deduction. Plus two first home games behind closed doors My other concern is the manner of the VAR check, they show only about half a second of footage to the ref because if they go back even another second the player who Vinicius catches is strangling him and throwing him around for a good 10 seconds. But the VAR deliberately ignore this? In Spain I honestly think it’s institutional racism from top to bottom. Racism from the Valencia fans just makes no sense, they have black players too… but then ignorant fuckers like those wouldnt make much sense.
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Post by Rick Grimes on May 22, 2023 8:26:14 GMT
Start next season with a 5 point deduction. Plus two first home games behind closed doors My other concern is the manner of the VAR check, they show only about half a second of footage to the ref because if they go back even another second the player who Vinicius catches is strangling him and throwing him around for a good 10 seconds. But the VAR deliberately ignore this? In Spain I honestly think it’s institutional racism from top to bottom. Racism from the Valencia fans just makes no sense, they have black players too… but then ignorant fuckers like those wouldnt make much sense. The racism is obviously inexcusable under any circumstance but when it comes to the fans I wonder if some aren’t actually racist in the sense that they think black people like Vinicius Jr are inferior, and that they’re doing it purely to upset him and try and gain an ‘edge’ competitively by making one of the worlds best players right now lose his composure. It’s thick as fuck and disgusting from them either way.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 22, 2023 10:02:09 GMT
Start next season with a 5 point deduction. Plus two first home games behind closed doors My other concern is the manner of the VAR check, they show only about half a second of footage to the ref because if they go back even another second the player who Vinicius catches is strangling him and throwing him around for a good 10 seconds. But the VAR deliberately ignore this? In Spain I honestly think it’s institutional racism from top to bottom. Racism from the Valencia fans just makes no sense, they have black players too… but then ignorant fuckers like those wouldnt make much sense. Away to Burnley 92/93 there was a bloke in front of me giving a black Burnley player racial abuse. I confronted him by asking if he'd say the same to Mark Stein. He said he wouldn't because "Stein's Stoke". And that, in itself demonstrates the lack of insight. If black players hear racism do they think they gwt comfort knowing it's aimed at an opponent? Because they absolutely don't. If last night the black Valencia players had left the field in protest at their own racists it would've been hugely symbolic. That's something to try.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 22, 2023 10:09:57 GMT
It should be 10 games behind closed doors.
It's the only punishment that would hurt the fans. And it should be about hurting that entire fanbase, it was the whole stadium.
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Post by iglugluk on May 22, 2023 10:37:59 GMT
Rascist chanting has been tolerated in Spain for years and absolutely nothing is done about it.. absolutely disgraceful from a modern democracy. Their attitude towards animal cruelty says alot about their national philosophy.. My wife and I rehomed a Galgo hunting dog rescued from Spain and the treatment of these animals is completely horrendous and it's not in any way illegal. Spain still supports archaic and medieval attitudes amongst it's people and the authorities are happy to allow it. It's no surprise their are a significant amount of ignorant arseholes attending football matches, it's a society problem.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 22, 2023 10:40:15 GMT
It should be 10 games behind closed doors. It's the only punishment that would hurt the fans. And it should be about hurting that entire fanbase, it was the whole stadium. Disagree. Take them out of the season, next campaign. Put them back in the year after. Make an example of them and do the same for other clubs that think it’s okay.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 22, 2023 10:46:45 GMT
They were doing it when we played there. Scum bags the lot of them they should be locked up, never mind behind close doors and points reductions.
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Post by stokie1947 on May 22, 2023 10:56:11 GMT
i am sick and tired hearing about racism whether it's football or on the news papers etc and it's all one way no mention of it being the other way never i was called a white honky by a black lady because i caught her ankle which i duly apologise for made no difference
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 22, 2023 11:02:13 GMT
i am sick and tired hearing about racism whether it's football or on the news papers etc and it's all one way no mention of it being the other way never i was called a white honky by a black lady because i caught her ankle which i duly apologise for made no difference
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Post by cvillestokie on May 22, 2023 11:06:56 GMT
i am sick and tired hearing about racism whether it's football or on the news papers etc and it's all one way no mention of it being the other way never i was called a white honky by a black lady because i caught her ankle which i duly apologise for made no difference Did 50,000 people chant white trash at you, on repeat, in an area that surrounded you? Black women and children are STILL more likely to die during childbirth than whites, both in the US and UK www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65300168.ampThe idea that any white person can believe there is an equivalence to the systemic racism that perpetuates disparities, including that of yet to be born children, is laughable.
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