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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 4, 2021 19:01:00 GMT
What a job he's doing at Wet Sham, taken them up to 5th in the premier league. It's a bit of a Bullseye moment for the Coates family - look at what you could have had. I wonder if we ever approached him when we were actively seeking a manager and he was out of work? If we didn't we should have, if we did and he turned us down we should have offered him more to get him here. Gouranga.
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Post by Veritas on May 4, 2021 19:02:08 GMT
What a job he's doing at Wet Sham, taken them up to 5th in the premier league. It's a bit of a Bullseye moment for the Coates family - look at what you could have had. I wonder if we ever approached him when we were actively seeking a manager and he was out of work? If we didn't we should have, if we did and he turned us down we should have offered him more to get him here. Gouranga. No it isn't, Moyes was never going to come here
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 4, 2021 19:04:30 GMT
What a job he's doing at Wet Sham, taken them up to 5th in the premier league. It's a bit of a Bullseye moment for the Coates family - look at what you could have had. I wonder if we ever approached him when we were actively seeking a manager and he was out of work? If we didn't we should have, if we did and he turned us down we should have offered him more to get him here. Gouranga. No it isn't, Moyes was never going to come here Money talks, if he was offered enough he'd have come. Our stock hadn't fallen too much and we were still a good prospect for someone like Moyes to rebuild his reputation and ours of course. Gouranga.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 4, 2021 19:07:04 GMT
BBC reported at the time that we held talks with him in the week before the 1-0 win at Watford in October of the relegation season.
We asked if he'd take the job. He said yes, but everything changed after that win.
He got the West Ham job on a short-term contract the following month
We then offered him the job on a long-term deal in January when Hughes finally went, and he said no - preferring to stay on at West Ham and try and get a longer deal there (which he didn't that time around)
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Post by theonlooker on May 4, 2021 19:10:17 GMT
BBC reported at the time that we held talks with him in the week before the 1-0 win at Watford in October of the relegation season. We asked if he'd take the job. He said yes, but everything changed after that win. He got the West Ham job on a short-term contract the following month We then offered him the job on a long-term deal in January when Hughes finally went, and he said no - preferring to stay on at West Ham and try and get a longer deal there (which he didn't that time around) Gordon effing Bennett!
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Post by mickstupp on May 4, 2021 19:12:44 GMT
With things like this I find it’s always better for ones mental health to look ahead rather than thinking back, otherwise it can make you very angry indeed.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 4, 2021 19:19:45 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on May 4, 2021 19:23:34 GMT
And here's the mention of him turning us down when we eventually offered him the job www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/09/david-moyes-west-ham-ambition-contractMoyes said he remained loyal when one of West Ham’s relegation rivals, believed to be Stoke City, approached him and he does not expect to be short of offers if he leaves. “I could have joined a Premier League club during the season here when I was West Ham manager,” he said. “I chose not to. But I’ve got other things if it’s not renewed. It’s not a problem.”
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Post by gingerninja on May 4, 2021 19:33:55 GMT
Yet despite prior to this season, there were many Stoke fans turning their noses up at Moyes when he's been linked since☹️.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on May 4, 2021 19:37:50 GMT
It also helps that a few of the usual clubs are a bit sub-par this season.
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Post by spitthedog on May 4, 2021 19:56:18 GMT
There was not much enthusiasm for Moyes.
Maybe on the thread after Lambert was appointed and failed, but before that very few would have supported him being appointed here.
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Post by greenhoff on May 4, 2021 20:14:27 GMT
He wasnt actually welcomed at West Ham was he? Hed have been a good fit for us.
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Post by Goonie on May 4, 2021 20:16:13 GMT
What a job he's doing at Wet Sham, taken them up to 5th in the premier league. It's a bit of a Bullseye moment for the Coates family - look at what you could have had. I wonder if we ever approached him when we were actively seeking a manager and he was out of work? If we didn't we should have, if we did and he turned us down we should have offered him more to get him here. Gouranga. If I recall when Moyes was mooted many saw him as a busted flush after a few disasters Proved many doubters wrong
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on May 4, 2021 21:00:49 GMT
There's no guarantee he would've done well at Stoke. I liked Moyes and thought he should've had more time at Man Utd, but he did poorly at Real Sociedad, and I was surprised by his negative attitude as soon as he took over at Sunderland. He's had one over-achieving season at West Ham and now everyone loves him again. West Ham fans probably won't be happy when they're likely mid-table next season.
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Post by PotteringThrough on May 4, 2021 21:02:23 GMT
Darren fecking Fletcher has so much to answer for!
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 4, 2021 21:27:33 GMT
They were fantastic last night. Very exciting to watch, moved the ball forward quickly and kept it on the ground. It was a really attacking lineup and fair play to Moyes.
Definitely benefiting from their fans not being around because they’re a right bunch of mard arses whenever I’ve been down there.
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Post by J-Roar on May 4, 2021 21:54:23 GMT
Darren fecking Fletcher has so much to answer for! Haha. Was just thinking that. How different things might have been if he'd not scored. What a shambles - talk to Moyes, withdraw based on the scrappiest of wins, eventually sack Hughes, talk to Martin O'Neill, don't offer him job, offer job to the Spanish bloke, fuck that up, try to get Martin o'Neill again who tells us to do one, end up with Lambert.
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Post by march4 on May 4, 2021 22:11:14 GMT
There are plenty of experienced managers around as this shows.
We have not had to go down the experimental route repeatedly with the inevitable, poor outcome.
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Post by J-Roar on May 4, 2021 22:45:27 GMT
There are plenty of experienced managers around as this shows. We have not had to go down the experimental route repeatedly with the inevitable, poor outcome. When you say plenty....
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 4, 2021 23:04:07 GMT
Moyes brother has been at stoke more than once to discuss a deal. Not just the season when we went down either and we missed the boat.
Let's hope we start getting things right soon.
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Post by J-Roar on May 5, 2021 5:42:26 GMT
Moyes brother has been at stoke more than once to discuss a deal. Not just the season when we went down either and we missed the boat. Let's hope we start getting things right soon. Dither dither dither. If this one had run bet365 they'd still be in a shed.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 5:51:11 GMT
I remember thinking at the time we will miss out on him and then a couple of years later he will be challenging for the top 4 with West Ham.
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Post by sheds1862 on May 5, 2021 9:11:14 GMT
I remember thinking at the time we will miss out on him and then a couple of years later he will be challenging for the top 4 with West Ham. Did you share your thoughts on here at the time 😃
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 9:38:55 GMT
I remember thinking at the time we will miss out on him and then a couple of years later he will be challenging for the top 4 with West Ham. Did you share your thoughts on here at the time 😃 No and I also know who the next manager we thought wasn't good enough for Stoke but does well in a few years is and I'm not saying
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 5, 2021 9:54:32 GMT
Did you share your thoughts on here at the time 😃 No and I also know who the next manager we thought wasn't good enough for Stoke but does well in a few years is and I'm not saying Why not? Swingers on the block mate, let us know. Is it Wilder?
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 5, 2021 10:07:48 GMT
It’s incredible really that we’ve not been managed by anyone from the following list:
Moyes, Allardyce, Warnock, McCarthy, Hughton, Bruce.
All the hallmarks of your classic Stoke manager. Probably missed a couple out.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on May 5, 2021 10:08:03 GMT
No and I also know who the next manager we thought wasn't good enough for Stoke but does well in a few years is and I'm not saying Why not? Swingers on the block mate, let us know. Is it Wilder? The person I think he means is NJ. Edit: It can't be, didn't read what he said properly.
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Post by spitthedog on May 5, 2021 11:31:23 GMT
There wasn't much enthusiasm from fans for bringing Moyes to Stoke when he was struggling at Sunderland, or in Spain.
He was largely written off as one of those dinosaurs who works his way around different clubs to make a healthy living.
Its so laughably easy to pluck out the name of a manager having a run of success and then criticise the club for not appointing them.
On that note, I notice the enthusiasm for Nigel Pearson on here as somewhat receded in recent times. It does tend to go a bit quiet when these manager's go through through their lean spells.
What if Moyes didn't want to come to Stoke?
what if we did persuade him and he still wasn't successful here what should Plan XYZ be?
Quite a few what ifs and maybes with no guarantees imo but I suppose fantasy and hindsight is what works best for a football fan.
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Post by J-Roar on May 5, 2021 11:34:18 GMT
It’s incredible really that we’ve not been managed by anyone from the following list: Moyes, Allardyce, Warnock, McCarthy, Hughton, Bruce. All the hallmarks of your classic Stoke manager. Probably missed a couple out. British managers club.
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Post by march4 on May 5, 2021 12:41:39 GMT
There are plenty of experienced managers around as this shows. We have not had to go down the experimental route repeatedly with the inevitable, poor outcome. When you say plenty.... I mean plenty.
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