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Post by spitthedog on Sept 10, 2021 8:51:14 GMT
While I don’t disagree, in this case it’s just an excuse. IPL never wanted this test to go ahead and they are powerful I think this was pre planned. Maybe so but it's a scary precedent to set. So going forward, every time players in a team get covid (regardless of symptoms), they will be forced to isolate and games will get cancelled? We'll have millions of cases this winter so it doesn't bode well for the football season. It's not really "learning to live with Covid like we do flu". With everyone vaccinated, why are we still persisting with this covid obsessed insanity? In previous years we'd never have stopped or cancelled events for flu, it's absolutely pathetic and frankly bonkers. It's a pervasive culture that's been developing over the last 18 months promoted by the Government and other vested interests and is now embedded.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 10, 2021 8:53:23 GMT
Maybe so but it's a scary precedent to set. So going forward, every time players in a team get covid (regardless of symptoms), they will be forced to isolate and games will get cancelled? We'll have millions of cases this winter so it doesn't bode well for the football season. It's not really "learning to live with Covid like we do flu". With everyone vaccinated, why are we still persisting with this covid obsessed insanity? In previous years we'd never have stopped or cancelled events for flu, it's absolutely pathetic and frankly bonkers. It's a pervasive culture that's been developing over the last 18 months promoted by the Government and other vested interests and is now embedded. Indeed. I really hope India get a hard time for this, its absolutely absurd and particularly suspect given the IPL is just around the corner.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 10, 2021 9:22:29 GMT
In a bubble since May 16th😮no fuckin wonder they’ve had enough.Straight into another one for the money IPL
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 10, 2021 9:23:57 GMT
The other side of the argument is that the cricketers have had a miserable couple of years of living in hotels just to be able to safely put on games. I think they would be more than a bit upset if it turned out that the time separated from families was all for nothing because India can just field a team of players who may well have Covid. It’s not going away anytime soon mate…. 25k fans are currently heading into Manchester with probably 90% of them fully vaccinated…..enough is fucking enough what happens next year as this shit is not going away I don't disagree, I was originally looking at it from the point of view of the England players, who have made massive sacrifices to be part of the side and to whom it would be a big insult to play against Covid positive opposition. Having said that, I've just seen that the Indian players all had negative PCR tests last night and so I take it back completely. There's no reason that the game shouldn't go ahead. Forget forfeiting the match - India should forfeit the series and compensate those who are missing out over the next five days. You can't have teams flaking out of test cricket to go and play in a big money slogfest without some kind of penalty.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 10, 2021 9:29:18 GMT
I'm now reading that there's an expectation that both teams will get positive results from yesterday's tests over the course of the day. I'm not sure how they know that, but I take back everything I've said so far. Perhaps there's more to come out?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 10, 2021 9:35:33 GMT
I'm now reading that there's an expectation that both teams will get positive results from yesterday's tests over the course of the day. I'm not sure how they know that, but I take back everything I've said so far. Perhaps there's more to come out? If that’s true mate the Indian team will be in isolation here for another 10 days and miss the start of the IPL
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Post by Kilo on Sept 10, 2021 9:36:10 GMT
I'm now reading that there's an expectation that both teams will get positive results from yesterday's tests over the course of the day. I'm not sure how they know that, but I take back everything I've said so far. Perhaps there's more to come out? Presumably someone from the Indian camp is currently on his way back from Bradford with a suitcase of dodgy positive test results. Let's be clear, it's the Indian players who have all tested negative who have refused to play this test in case it jeopardises their chances of big money in the IPL It absolutely stinks
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 10, 2021 10:54:04 GMT
Congratulations India on another impressive series win, away from home too.
We could clearly learn a lot from them on how to operate a successful Test team at the same time as running a successful white ball tournament.
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Post by lordb on Sept 10, 2021 11:05:49 GMT
Didn't England leave SA last winter re COVID?
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Post by chuckrocky on Sept 10, 2021 11:17:14 GMT
In a bubble since May 16th😮no fuckin wonder they’ve had enough.Straight into another one for the money IPL They were let out the bubble for about 4 weeks in between the test championship final and the first test. I think the bubble they’ve been in for this series has been a lot more relaxed too. All the Indian players have had their family’s on tour with them who have been allowed to pretty much do what they want. Shastri and the other members of their coaching staff caught COVID at a book launch which probably tells you how strict their bubble has been.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 10, 2021 11:29:42 GMT
Congratulations India on another impressive series win, away from home too. We could clearly learn a lot from them on how to operate a successful Test team at the same time as running a successful white ball tournament. Absolutely. A thoroughly deserved series win. India were better than England in all departments. We should certainly look at how they manage to achieve excellence in both red and white ball cricket.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 10, 2021 11:42:52 GMT
In a bubble since May 16th😮no fuckin wonder they’ve had enough.Straight into another one for the money IPL They were let out the bubble for about 4 weeks in between the test championship final and the first test. I think the bubble they’ve been in for this series has been a lot more relaxed too. All the Indian players have had their family’s on tour with them who have been allowed to pretty much do what they want. Shastri and the other members of their coaching staff caught COVID at a book launch which probably tells you how strict their bubble has been. Hussain and Atherton made out how strict it was earlier🤔Listening to DK this morning his words were(as a pundit)”I was as free as a bird in the UK and now I’m stuck in my hotel room here in the UAE”.I suppose the money from the IPL will compensate for that though
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 10, 2021 12:03:52 GMT
I had tickets for day 3 and am feeling frustrated that we're not being told the full picture. The speculation aside they've not said how many players or staff are infected which just feels poor. If they think more will fall then they should give numbers of identified close contacts. Not much the ECB can do about the event but the should publish the facts.
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Post by lordb on Sept 10, 2021 12:12:34 GMT
Congratulations India on another impressive series win, away from home too. We could clearly learn a lot from them on how to operate a successful Test team at the same time as running a successful white ball tournament. Absolutely. A thoroughly deserved series win. India were better than England in all departments. We should certainly look at how they manage to achieve excellence in both red and white ball cricket. they we're better....except the times they were a shambles weird times we live in, no one is consistent (NZ maybe) & every side regularly chucks out a horror show
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 10, 2021 12:17:31 GMT
Didn't England leave SA last winter re COVID? Wasn't that because of a huge spike in case and a spate of positive test results though? Also it was pre-vaccine and both parties were in full agreement as I believe there was concerns over some venues being Covid secure also.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 10, 2021 12:20:42 GMT
rubbish for all those on zero hour contracts who thought they had 5 days of work booked in, as well as local businesses.
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Post by werrington on Sept 10, 2021 13:38:26 GMT
Michael Vaughan has nailed it
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 10, 2021 14:03:20 GMT
Michael Vaughan has nailed it This tweet mate?
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Post by werrington on Sept 10, 2021 14:17:50 GMT
Michael Vaughan has nailed it This tweet mate? His words on bbc sport live newsreel at 11:14 mate
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Post by professorplump on Sept 11, 2021 9:58:11 GMT
Congratulations India on another impressive series win, away from home too. We could clearly learn a lot from them on how to operate a successful Test team at the same time as running a successful white ball tournament. I don't think it's fair to say that they have won the series when England still had a chance to draw it. England came back at Headingley after a poor defeat, who's to say they couldn't have done it again. If we're one up in the Ashes and the final test gets cancelled, I can't see Australia handing us the urn.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 14, 2021 17:14:17 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 15, 2021 11:59:17 GMT
County Championship bubbling up to a good finish. Last round of fixtures this weekend, four sides separated by 6 points, all with a shout of landing the title.
The new format has worked well in the top division, producing lots of results and a tight end to the season. Not sure how much interest there was among the teams in the other two divisions, especially since there isn't even promotion/relegation to worry about...
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 15, 2021 12:14:23 GMT
Just listened to it on my lunch break, great man. I really like Lauren Laverne as a presenter as well…….
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 15, 2021 12:15:23 GMT
County Championship bubbling up to a good finish. Last round of fixtures this weekend, four sides separated by 6 points, all with a shout of landing the title. The new format has worked well in the top division, producing lots of results and a tight end to the season. Not sure how much interest there was among the teams in the other two divisions, especially since there isn't even promotion/relegation to worry about... Some of the scores have been eye wateringly bad, but it’s been entertaining and it’s cricket so will do for me….
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 17, 2021 10:21:33 GMT
Looks like cricket in Pakistan will be on the back burner again, New Zealand tour cancelled due to security concerns. England are advised by the same security company so no doubt we will be next to cancel. Such a shame for a great cricketing nation......
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 17, 2021 10:59:43 GMT
Looks like cricket in Pakistan will be on the back burner again, New Zealand tour cancelled due to security concerns. England are advised by the same security company so no doubt we will be next to cancel. Such a shame for a great cricketing nation...... Likewise Afghanistan. The development and spread of love for cricket throughout the country was a real chance for the country to move in a positive direction internationally. Unlikely that other countries would ever tour there in the foreseeable future but it could only have helped. That chance seems to have now gone and the knock-on impacts for Pakistan are obvious. Shame.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 17, 2021 11:02:22 GMT
Looks like cricket in Pakistan will be on the back burner again, New Zealand tour cancelled due to security concerns. England are advised by the same security company so no doubt we will be next to cancel. Such a shame for a great cricketing nation...... Likewise Afghanistan. The development and spread of love for cricket throughout the country was a real chance for the country to move in a positive direction internationally. Unlikely that other countries would ever tour there in the foreseeable future but it could only have helped. That chance seems to have now gone and the knock-on impacts for Pakistan are obvious. Shame. More boring tests on the Dubai flat tracks in empty stadiums to come no doubt......
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 17, 2021 16:22:15 GMT
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Post by professorplump on Sept 17, 2021 19:33:21 GMT
Looks like cricket in Pakistan will be on the back burner again, New Zealand tour cancelled due to security concerns. England are advised by the same security company so no doubt we will be next to cancel. Such a shame for a great cricketing nation...... Ironically New Zealand have probably had more terror attacks than Pakistan in recent years. Unless there is solid and specific intelligence about a potential attack, England should go there. Pakistan did us a huge favour last year coming to play when there were no vaccines
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Post by professorplump on Sept 17, 2021 19:35:23 GMT
I suspect there will be a few more making themselves unavailable as well.
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