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Post by Squeekster on Mar 5, 2021 21:12:28 GMT
Have we though? I reckon a lot of third world countries will suffer massively only they won't get reported. I personally believe a lot of our reported covid deaths are really not and are just put down to that for convenience, I'd bet decent money that pneumonia deaths that are one of the biggest recorded reasons for death in old age have come down massively.
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Post by felonious on Mar 5, 2021 21:20:12 GMT
Because we mostly eat too much crap, processed fatty food and no-one is interested in doing anything about it. Diet is appalling in this country everybody else can see it. If anyone mentions Good Diet in this country its the old "nanny state" bollocks. 12 months of pandemic where immunity has been critical factor and no emphasis on Diet at all from the Government even though it could save a lot of lives and a lot of NHS money. Good Diet = Good Immunity system. Fairly basic stuff. Its definitely led to higher Covid death rates as well as all other multiple ill health complications. Its ok though the drugs will work! Sermon over ...well you did ask? It's being mentioned a few times and Boris mentioned it and said he was going to lose weight, although that doesn't to be showing progress, and it's on a BBC programme this morning about obesity and Covid death links they taxed the sugar drinks, now they should tax the sugary snacks and fast food outlets, McDonald's, Burger King, KFC, Subway, Greggs, Costa's etc and other takeaways, we don't even know how much sugar and salt gets put into a curry sauce. Laziness and lazy parenting have a lot to answer for, there is a social crisis out there that a mass community education programme needs to be done to show people how to buy, cook and eat healthily again Apparently Boris has lost a stone by cutting out a fair amount of the shit he was consuming, mainly the late evening stuff.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 5, 2021 21:22:35 GMT
I used to weigh 20+ stone, until 2017 when I decided shit had to change. After a few months, flitting around with complicated diets, I found one that worked... I lost 8 stone in 8 months and have kept it off.... so I'd like to think I'm fairly clued up on this. Here's a couple of pointers before the secret: - Body positive movement. What a load of bollocks. Telling fat people that it's healthy to be fat is exactly why had a massive increase in health catastrophes recently ranging from the increase rates of bowel cancer (Google it), depression, increased covid deaths etc. Nah, tell people it's dead clever to eat 8 cakes a fucking day and that they're beautiful just as they are. - The body 'shaming' movement... also a massive load of bollocks. Look, nobody likes to be called fat.... it's hurtful and I agree that it's not fair that people are judged for external factors by their immediate appearance (job interviews come to mind) but telling people that it's not their fault that they are overweight is another reason why people don't lose it. I actually attended Slimming World sessions for around 12 months as I was losing weight. I won Slimmer of the Month 8 times in 10 months. Making people feel good about being overweight, isn't a good thing. Telling people "it's not your faullt", isn't a good thing and is exactly why half of the members used to turn up having gained weight. At some point, you have to accept that unless you have a serious medical problem, you are most likely overweight for one reason and perhaps you should feel a little ashamed of it... I quickly worked out from sessions that there are three types of overweight people... Those who blamed everyone else and made excuses every week "I went me nans house and she gave me tonnes of chocolate cake" for why they had lost no weight. Those who accepted their mistakes and as such tried to rectify them. Those who were happy to be overweight. - The wealth has a huge part to play in weight argument. I'm not saying that wealth doesn't contribute to weight issue, but it's another go to easy excuse. When I lost weight, I was going through my hardest times financially since becoming an adult. You can lose weight and avoid spending a fortune. Quite frankly, if you're happy to be overweight, don't change in my opinion. I have more respect for someone who is happy in their own body than someone who blames every other fucker for the fact they are morbidly obese. Finally, here was the diet I found... it's one you might have heard before and why I also disagree with the notion that wealth is the only reason people are fat. First law of thermodynamics anyone? Conservation of energy? Energy can't be created nor destroyed? No? Simplified..... Calories in < Calories out = weight loss.If you fill your body full of energy, then you need to destroy it and unless you are Michael Phelps, you won't. Equally, if you don't fill your body full of energy, then your body has a deficit and will find other energy sources (stored fat, sugar) to maintain your ability to live. Clever eh? No Low-GI foods or Carbs this or Atkins that.... (although carbs are usually unfulfilling hence why you'll eat more). Three £1 ready meals... will probably be less than your required calorie intake = weight loss (and trust me, I smashed plenty of them during my weight loss). It's really not that hard to consume less than your required calories and trust me, there's no need to be clever or go for a big shop to prepare. Download MyFitnessPal, start tomorrow and watch as weight will literally start falling off you within a week. All you need to do is actually have a target calories that will guarantee weight loss. In my case, as I was massive, I could afford to eat around 2500 calories a day, so I dropped it to around 1200 most days and about 1500 on some others. I always had the occasional blow out when going to watch Stoke including beer, and usually a crappy takeaway. Anyway, I'll jump off my soapbox now and blame external factors for the reason I got fat, was nothing to do with the fact I had 2 Sausage Egg McMuffins, 2 Hash Browns for breakfast and 20 nuggets on the way home followed by tea in the evening, pretty much every day..... Erm, reason I was fat was genetics... and cuz I was bullied yeah... Bob on, that. At least, for 95% of overweight people. Many years ago a chap called Mike Stroud came to where I was living to give a talk about his unaided walk to the South Pole with Ranulph Fiennes. One of the things they had to do was record how many calories they burnt every day hauling sledges weighing over 250kg through freezing temperatures and, at the the same time, how many calories they ate. They were eating butter, lard, sugar and other high calorie stuff the entire three months basically (plus vitamins etc). Daily their calorie intake was about 5,000 calories. An average bloke in the UK is recommended no more than 2,500. So, roughly twice what they should've been eating. Normally, that would result in massive weight gain. However, blood testing showed that they were burning an average of close on 10,000 calories a day. After 90 days, they'd lost about four stone each. It's pretty simple really.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 5, 2021 22:07:42 GMT
I used to weigh 20+ stone, until 2017 when I decided shit had to change. After a few months, flitting around with complicated diets, I found one that worked... I lost 8 stone in 8 months and have kept it off.... so I'd like to think I'm fairly clued up on this. Here's a couple of pointers before the secret: - Body positive movement. What a load of bollocks. Telling fat people that it's healthy to be fat is exactly why had a massive increase in health catastrophes recently ranging from the increase rates of bowel cancer (Google it), depression, increased covid deaths etc. Nah, tell people it's dead clever to eat 8 cakes a fucking day and that they're beautiful just as they are. - The body 'shaming' movement... also a massive load of bollocks. Look, nobody likes to be called fat.... it's hurtful and I agree that it's not fair that people are judged for external factors by their immediate appearance (job interviews come to mind) but telling people that it's not their fault that they are overweight is another reason why people don't lose it. I actually attended Slimming World sessions for around 12 months as I was losing weight. I won Slimmer of the Month 8 times in 10 months. Making people feel good about being overweight, isn't a good thing. Telling people "it's not your faullt", isn't a good thing and is exactly why half of the members used to turn up having gained weight. At some point, you have to accept that unless you have a serious medical problem, you are most likely overweight for one reason and perhaps you should feel a little ashamed of it... I quickly worked out from sessions that there are three types of overweight people... Those who blamed everyone else and made excuses every week "I went me nans house and she gave me tonnes of chocolate cake" for why they had lost no weight. Those who accepted their mistakes and as such tried to rectify them. Those who were happy to be overweight. - The wealth has a huge part to play in weight argument. I'm not saying that wealth doesn't contribute to weight issue, but it's another go to easy excuse. When I lost weight, I was going through my hardest times financially since becoming an adult. You can lose weight and avoid spending a fortune. Quite frankly, if you're happy to be overweight, don't change in my opinion. I have more respect for someone who is happy in their own body than someone who blames every other fucker for the fact they are morbidly obese. Finally, here was the diet I found... it's one you might have heard before and why I also disagree with the notion that wealth is the only reason people are fat. First law of thermodynamics anyone? Conservation of energy? Energy can't be created nor destroyed? No? Simplified..... Calories in < Calories out = weight loss.If you fill your body full of energy, then you need to destroy it and unless you are Michael Phelps, you won't. Equally, if you don't fill your body full of energy, then your body has a deficit and will find other energy sources (stored fat, sugar) to maintain your ability to live. Clever eh? No Low-GI foods or Carbs this or Atkins that.... (although carbs are usually unfulfilling hence why you'll eat more). Three £1 ready meals... will probably be less than your required calorie intake = weight loss (and trust me, I smashed plenty of them during my weight loss). It's really not that hard to consume less than your required calories and trust me, there's no need to be clever or go for a big shop to prepare. Download MyFitnessPal, start tomorrow and watch as weight will literally start falling off you within a week. All you need to do is actually have a target calories that will guarantee weight loss. In my case, as I was massive, I could afford to eat around 2500 calories a day, so I dropped it to around 1200 most days and about 1500 on some others. I always had the occasional blow out when going to watch Stoke including beer, and usually a crappy takeaway. Anyway, I'll jump off my soapbox now and blame external factors for the reason I got fat, was nothing to do with the fact I had 2 Sausage Egg McMuffins, 2 Hash Browns for breakfast and 20 nuggets on the way home followed by tea in the evening, pretty much every day..... Erm, reason I was fat was genetics... and cuz I was bullied yeah... Bob on, that. At least, for 95% of overweight people. Many years ago a chap called Mike Stroud came to where I was living to give a talk about his unaided walk to the South Pole with Ranulph Fiennes. One of the things they had to do was record how many calories they burnt every day hauling sledges weighing over 250kg through freezing temperatures and, at the the same time, how many calories they ate. They were eating butter, lard, sugar and other high calorie stuff the entire three months basically (plus vitamins etc). Daily their calorie intake was about 5,000 calories. An average bloke in the UK is recommended no more than 2,500. So, roughly twice what they should've been eating. Normally, that would result in massive weight gain. However, blood testing showed that they were burning an average of close on 10,000 calories a day. After 90 days, they'd lost about four stone each. It's pretty simple really. As soon as you simplify it down to base level, it makes perfect sense. It's really not rocket science. Just conservation of energy... Energy can neither be destroyed nor created, merely changed. It's the exact reason why you feel hot and sweaty soon after a big meal. You've just shoved a shit load of energy into your body. A bit will be transferred into heat as your body works hard to digest it, but a lot will be stored as fat or glucose as your body is unable to burn it. It's weird how you never feel like that after a salad though right? Lower energy... Less energy transferred into heat... Another thing to realise... From a purely mathematical standpoint it's actually quite hard to become fat in reality. That sounds quite weird during an obesity crisis but it takes a similar level of commitment to gain weight as lose it. You have to commit to eating high calorie food consistently and essentially failing to move enough. 2500 calories is quite a lot all things considered. 40 McNuggets is just shy of 2000 calories meaning you can eat 40 a day and you'll theoretically lose weight assuming you don't consume any other food with significant calories. You'll feel crap and have imbalanced nutrition but you will over time undercut your required calories by 500 a day (approx) meaning weight loss. What's more whereas if you consistently undercut your calories you WILL lose weight, some of the the time your body will actually stop absorbing calories during huge eating binges (even those which last days) and you will subsequently excrete a disproportionate amount compared to normal. (Google pizza binge calories or maximal eating) The science on this is sketchy but your body does not have the ability to absorb an unlimited amount of calories, whereas your body can burn an unlimited amount of energy as it cannot physically retain it during a deficit. So to get properly massive, its high calorie takeaway orders every day. Cakes every day. Full fat pop every day. For several years.... There's a level of commitment involved that once you get over, is very easy to beat.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 5, 2021 22:14:55 GMT
Have we though? I reckon a lot of third world countries will suffer massively only they won't get reported. I personally believe a lot of our reported covid deaths are really not and are just put down to that for convenience, I'd bet decent money that pneumonia deaths that are one of the biggest recorded reasons for death in old age have come down massively. Funny thing is that a lot of legionella deaths are wrongly attributed as pneumonia.
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Post by woodstein on Mar 5, 2021 22:24:20 GMT
World obesity day? What next, scrawny stick insect day? Bad breath day, B.O day (more relevant to the Burslem area!). 😂 Don't think scrawny, bad breath and B O are quite as life threatening and debilitating. You don't like fascists yet you sound like a health one.
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Post by chigstoke on Mar 5, 2021 22:36:40 GMT
With all the masturbating I do, I should’ve lost about 10 stone by now.
Calories in, Calories Out etc...
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Post by metalhead on Mar 5, 2021 22:43:04 GMT
With all the masturbating I do, I should’ve lost about 10 stone by now. Calories in, Calories Out etc... Dunno about wanking, but shagging burns a fair amount if you have a fair sesh. Obviously if you're a 30 second wonder then you might be better going for a jog For more than just health reasons
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 0:17:27 GMT
I got dysentery in Penang a few years back after drinking water. I can guarantee it works for those who want to lose weight. 2 weeks in a hotel bathroom and those jeans you wore in your teens slip right back on. No need for diets or fancy fibre foods after that.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 6, 2021 8:04:48 GMT
I suppose this is part of the individual responsibility versus nanny state debate. www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l4557Quite the irony, considering he was subsequently almost killed as a result of his own obesity...
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Post by Northy on Mar 6, 2021 9:23:38 GMT
Also... if you use the logic above and understand that Calories in < Calories out = weight loss, you quickly realise that there's no such thing as 'bad food'. It's just food and some has higher calorie content than others. Morgan Spurlock didn't gain all that weight on Supersize Me by eating McDonalds, as he leads you to believe.... he gained all that weight by consuming 5000 calories a day. Consume 5000 calories of anything.... grain, rice, wheatgrass fucking celery sticks and you will gain a huge amount of weight. Thermodynamics First rule.... simple as that. Q.E.D. Done. Thermodynamics, that takes me back a bit, Bernouilles steady flow equation etc. , I may still have books in the loft As you say, Move more, eat less, the only diet you need
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Post by sd22 on Mar 6, 2021 17:42:34 GMT
I don’t believe in ‘obesity’ Cristiano Ronaldo is considered overweight. Rugby players are morbidly obese allegedly.
All GPs providing this info should be trained in take body fat measurements and disregarding any one with a high BMI but with BF under 20%.
I’ve put on 3.5 stone in a year and a half and am currently classed as obese, yet this was done intentionally and body fat will be no higher than 25%.
A major overhaul needs to be done, specifically analysing visceral fat.
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Post by Orbs on Mar 6, 2021 17:53:49 GMT
I surprised that Crapslinger hasn't been on this thread and suggested we should eat all the illegal immigrants. 2 birds 1 stone?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 6, 2021 18:29:45 GMT
I don’t believe in ‘obesity’ Cristiano Ronaldo is considered overweight. Rugby players are morbidly obese allegedly. All GPs providing this info should be trained in take body fat measurements and disregarding any one with a high BMI but with BF under 20%. I’ve put on 3.5 stone in a year and a half and am currently classed as obese, yet this was done intentionally and body fat will be no higher than 25%. A major overhaul needs to be done, specifically analysing visceral fat. I think you're right that BMI doesn't wok for rugby players, rowers and many other athletes with large amounts of muscle. However, for non athletes, it's a good general indicator for the public on their general physical condition. I agree about visceral fat. Far more problematic and health threatening.
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Post by sd22 on Mar 6, 2021 18:45:22 GMT
I don’t believe in ‘obesity’ Cristiano Ronaldo is considered overweight. Rugby players are morbidly obese allegedly. All GPs providing this info should be trained in take body fat measurements and disregarding any one with a high BMI but with BF under 20%. I’ve put on 3.5 stone in a year and a half and am currently classed as obese, yet this was done intentionally and body fat will be no higher than 25%. A major overhaul needs to be done, specifically analysing visceral fat. I think you're right that BMI doesn't wok for rugby players, rowers and many other athletes with large amounts of muscle. However, for non athletes, it's a good general indicator for the public on their general physical condition. I agree about visceral fat. Far more problematic and health threatening. For a good proportion of the population yes (specifically 50+s when muscle mass starts to deteriorate especially). Some people escape the BMI when they carry very little muscle, but huge guts, for me this is a huge problem. Most common with heavy drinkers!! (myself I have a rounder belly, but low fat on it, just due to a year of neglecting core exercises so I’m not ‘tight’) The one thing I have been passionate about is the recommended intake for adults, they suggest 200+ Grams of carbs but only 50 grams of protein. Especially the older you get, more protein needs to be taken in to stay mobile! Hoping to cut down from 14st 3lbs to around 12st 5/7lbs by May, then once gyms open up fully, get up to a nice even 13st dead and adjust from there for functional fitness. I have good genetics for being lean fortunately (my brother doesn’t, but gaining muscle is so much easier for him, plus he got the magical 6ft gene😭) What most people don’t get, is, I’ve found it cheaper losing weight than I did gaining. A bag of kale is 59p from Lidl, sweet potatoes less than a pound per kilo, a whole chicken less than 5quid, 2 salmon fillets for 3.29. So much goodness for so little cost out there!
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 6, 2021 19:23:39 GMT
I surprised that Crapslinger hasn't been on this thread and suggested we should eat all the illegal immigrants. 2 birds 1 stone? Not a chance I like to know exactly where my meat comes from with it's passport available.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 6, 2021 19:25:44 GMT
Yet we have children starving on our streets allegedly
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Post by steve66 on Mar 6, 2021 19:34:20 GMT
I’ve had chips for three days in a row with various accompaniment’s, cake with butter on, ice creams and hardly any fecking gym workouts for best part of a year............
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Post by Orbs on Mar 6, 2021 19:35:25 GMT
Yet we have children starving on our *streets allegedly *houses/flats etc
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 6, 2021 19:37:05 GMT
I’ve had chips for three days in a row with various accompaniment’s, cake with butter on, ice creams and hardly any fecking gym workouts for best part of a year............ Can I come yours for tea?😀
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Post by metalhead on Mar 6, 2021 23:48:39 GMT
I think you're right that BMI doesn't wok for rugby players, rowers and many other athletes with large amounts of muscle. However, for non athletes, it's a good general indicator for the public on their general physical condition. I agree about visceral fat. Far more problematic and health threatening. For a good proportion of the population yes (specifically 50+s when muscle mass starts to deteriorate especially). Some people escape the BMI when they carry very little muscle, but huge guts, for me this is a huge problem. Most common with heavy drinkers!! (myself I have a rounder belly, but low fat on it, just due to a year of neglecting core exercises so I’m not ‘tight’) The one thing I have been passionate about is the recommended intake for adults, they suggest 200+ Grams of carbs but only 50 grams of protein. Especially the older you get, more protein needs to be taken in to stay mobile! Hoping to cut down from 14st 3lbs to around 12st 5/7lbs by May, then once gyms open up fully, get up to a nice even 13st dead and adjust from there for functional fitness. I have good genetics for being lean fortunately (my brother doesn’t, but gaining muscle is so much easier for him, plus he got the magical 6ft gene😭) What most people don’t get, is, I’ve found it cheaper losing weight than I did gaining. A bag of kale is 59p from Lidl, sweet potatoes less than a pound per kilo, a whole chicken less than 5quid, 2 salmon fillets for 3.29. So much goodness for so little cost out there! Losing weight is financially straightforward. You don't need to have expensive healthy shit to lose weight.
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Post by sd22 on Mar 7, 2021 0:06:12 GMT
For a good proportion of the population yes (specifically 50+s when muscle mass starts to deteriorate especially). Some people escape the BMI when they carry very little muscle, but huge guts, for me this is a huge problem. Most common with heavy drinkers!! (myself I have a rounder belly, but low fat on it, just due to a year of neglecting core exercises so I’m not ‘tight’) The one thing I have been passionate about is the recommended intake for adults, they suggest 200+ Grams of carbs but only 50 grams of protein. Especially the older you get, more protein needs to be taken in to stay mobile! Hoping to cut down from 14st 3lbs to around 12st 5/7lbs by May, then once gyms open up fully, get up to a nice even 13st dead and adjust from there for functional fitness. I have good genetics for being lean fortunately (my brother doesn’t, but gaining muscle is so much easier for him, plus he got the magical 6ft gene😭) What most people don’t get, is, I’ve found it cheaper losing weight than I did gaining. A bag of kale is 59p from Lidl, sweet potatoes less than a pound per kilo, a whole chicken less than 5quid, 2 salmon fillets for 3.29. So much goodness for so little cost out there! Losing weight is financially straightforward. You don't need to have expensive healthy shit to lose weight. Contrary to what people think, sweet potatoes cost less than chips, butter or coconut oil less than virgin olive oil, a green griddle(up castle) less than a maccies. There’s also the option of eating exactly how you do, but moving more. It’s not hard, it’s not expensive and it’s the right thing to do. Above all, health is wealth, appreciate time, appreciate each other.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 7, 2021 7:56:28 GMT
Losing weight is financially straightforward. You don't need to have expensive healthy shit to lose weight. Contrary to what people think, sweet potatoes cost less than chips, butter or coconut oil less than virgin olive oil, a green griddle(up castle) less than a maccies. There’s also the option of eating exactly how you do, but moving more. It’s not hard, it’s not expensive and it’s the right thing to do. Above all, health is wealth, appreciate time, appreciate each other. Correct. The other thing that we've historically enshrined in this country, something I have also been guilty of in the past, we are compulsive eaters. We are told (mainly by fat people) that we must eat three meals a day otherwise we're breaking some kind of moral fatty code. Granted, I think breakfast is important as it sets your mood up for the day (although I'll come back to that) but if you get to lunch and you're feeling ok then there is absolutely nothing wrong with skipping it. You won't die of malnutrition or starve yourself of vital ingredients like some lard arse with blue hair working for the Huffington Post will have you believe. Again, your body will use the energy at its disposal (either more of your breakfast or stored reserves). Equally, if you had a decent lunch and subsequently get home from work a bit later than expected and think "I could probably skip tea"... Do it!! You'll actually sleep better because eating before bed usually provides an unnecessary energy boost to keep you awake and you'll save 600-800 calories in the process, you'll also feel better in the morning. If you are lying in bed and are really hungry, try and fight the urge to eat by drinking water or diet coke if you must, and you'll do your body the world of good. As a society, we take meal times as literal cues to shovel shit down our throats whereas we evolved by eating intermittently as food was not always available. "It's lunchtime, best go get me two sausage rolls from Greggs" like some weird ritualistic bullshit.... Or, don't? Save some money and make your breakfast last a bit longer. On breakfast, once you've got the hang of occasionally skipping other meals, you'll also realise you can actually downsize or skip breakfast to, if you are happy it doesn't affect your ability to work. Just make sure you're getting a good level of nutrients elsewhere (multi vitamins are a good option).
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Post by 4ndr3w on Mar 7, 2021 8:05:33 GMT
Contrary to what people think, sweet potatoes cost less than chips, butter or coconut oil less than virgin olive oil, a green griddle(up castle) less than a maccies. There’s also the option of eating exactly how you do, but moving more. It’s not hard, it’s not expensive and it’s the right thing to do. Above all, health is wealth, appreciate time, appreciate each other. Correct. The other thing that we've historically enshrined in this country, something I have also been guilty of in the past, we are compulsive eaters. We are told (mainly by fat people) that we must eat three meals a day otherwise we're breaking some kind of moral fatty code. Granted, I think breakfast is important as it sets your mood up for the day (although I'll come back to that) but if you get to lunch and you're feeling ok then there is absolutely nothing wrong with skipping it. You won't die of malnutrition or starve yourself of vital ingredients like some lard arse with blue hair working for the Huffington Post will have you believe. Again, your body will use the energy at its disposal (either more of your breakfast or stored reserves). Equally, if you had a decent lunch and subsequently get home from work a bit later than expected and think "I could probably skip tea"... Do it!! You'll actually sleep better because eating before bed usually provides an unnecessary energy boost to keep you awake and you'll save 600-800 calories in the process, you'll also feel better in the morning. If you are lying in bed and are really hungry, try and fight the urge to eat by drinking water or diet coke if you must, and you'll do your body the world of good. As a society, we take meal times as literal cues to shovel shit down our throats whereas we evolved by eating intermittently as food was not always available. "It's lunchtime, best go get me two sausage rolls from Greggs" like some weird ritualistic bullshit.... Or, don't? Save some money and make your breakfast last a bit longer. On breakfast, once you've got the hang of occasionally skipping other meals, you'll also realise you can actually downsize or skip breakfast to, if you are happy it doesn't affect your ability to work. Just make sure you're getting a good level of nutrients elsewhere (multi vitamins are a good option). I eat 6 meals per day at around 3000 calories There’s is many different ways to do it. I’m into weight training so for me personally doing it your way would be detrimental I believe as I’d lose muscle as well as fat Losing 8 stone in 8 months is a lot! If one wanted to just lose fat then that would be impossible. But fair play to you for the weight loss 👌🏻
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Post by metalhead on Mar 7, 2021 8:48:14 GMT
Correct. The other thing that we've historically enshrined in this country, something I have also been guilty of in the past, we are compulsive eaters. We are told (mainly by fat people) that we must eat three meals a day otherwise we're breaking some kind of moral fatty code. Granted, I think breakfast is important as it sets your mood up for the day (although I'll come back to that) but if you get to lunch and you're feeling ok then there is absolutely nothing wrong with skipping it. You won't die of malnutrition or starve yourself of vital ingredients like some lard arse with blue hair working for the Huffington Post will have you believe. Again, your body will use the energy at its disposal (either more of your breakfast or stored reserves). Equally, if you had a decent lunch and subsequently get home from work a bit later than expected and think "I could probably skip tea"... Do it!! You'll actually sleep better because eating before bed usually provides an unnecessary energy boost to keep you awake and you'll save 600-800 calories in the process, you'll also feel better in the morning. If you are lying in bed and are really hungry, try and fight the urge to eat by drinking water or diet coke if you must, and you'll do your body the world of good. As a society, we take meal times as literal cues to shovel shit down our throats whereas we evolved by eating intermittently as food was not always available. "It's lunchtime, best go get me two sausage rolls from Greggs" like some weird ritualistic bullshit.... Or, don't? Save some money and make your breakfast last a bit longer. On breakfast, once you've got the hang of occasionally skipping other meals, you'll also realise you can actually downsize or skip breakfast to, if you are happy it doesn't affect your ability to work. Just make sure you're getting a good level of nutrients elsewhere (multi vitamins are a good option). I eat 6 meals per day at around 3000 calories There’s is many different ways to do it. I’m into weight training so for me personally doing it your way would be detrimental I believe as I’d lose muscle as well as fat Losing 8 stone in 8 months is a lot! If one wanted to just lose fat then that would be impossible. But fair play to you for the weight loss 👌🏻 But you're burning your energy intake. I'm talking about sedentary individuals who sit at work all day and blame their weight on the fact they sit around all day. Hard to measure how much muscle I lost. I took up 6 aside football and running again about half way through (and eventually 11 aside) which I like to think will have helped me a little but I've never been into the resistance stuff. Visually though and physically size wise, I went back to about when I was 19 lol
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Post by sd22 on Mar 7, 2021 11:11:29 GMT
Contrary to what people think, sweet potatoes cost less than chips, butter or coconut oil less than virgin olive oil, a green griddle(up castle) less than a maccies. There’s also the option of eating exactly how you do, but moving more. It’s not hard, it’s not expensive and it’s the right thing to do. Above all, health is wealth, appreciate time, appreciate each other. Correct. The other thing that we've historically enshrined in this country, something I have also been guilty of in the past, we are compulsive eaters. We are told (mainly by fat people) that we must eat three meals a day otherwise we're breaking some kind of moral fatty code. Granted, I think breakfast is important as it sets your mood up for the day (although I'll come back to that) but if you get to lunch and you're feeling ok then there is absolutely nothing wrong with skipping it. You won't die of malnutrition or starve yourself of vital ingredients like some lard arse with blue hair working for the Huffington Post will have you believe. Again, your body will use the energy at its disposal (either more of your breakfast or stored reserves). Equally, if you had a decent lunch and subsequently get home from work a bit later than expected and think "I could probably skip tea"... Do it!! You'll actually sleep better because eating before bed usually provides an unnecessary energy boost to keep you awake and you'll save 600-800 calories in the process, you'll also feel better in the morning. If you are lying in bed and are really hungry, try and fight the urge to eat by drinking water or diet coke if you must, and you'll do your body the world of good. As a society, we take meal times as literal cues to shovel shit down our throats whereas we evolved by eating intermittently as food was not always available. "It's lunchtime, best go get me two sausage rolls from Greggs" like some weird ritualistic bullshit.... Or, don't? Save some money and make your breakfast last a bit longer. On breakfast, once you've got the hang of occasionally skipping other meals, you'll also realise you can actually downsize or skip breakfast to, if you are happy it doesn't affect your ability to work. Just make sure you're getting a good level of nutrients elsewhere (multi vitamins are a good option). 100% agree with all points here! When my mum lost a tonne of weight, her personal trainer also said to disregard meal times, he said, if you’re actually hungry, eat! It’s all about making the right choices, but more importantly, moderation and calculation. I’ve seen larger people eat an absolute mountain of chicken, brown rice and avocado and complain about not losing weight. Yes you may be eating the right foods, but eating the same 3500 calories, albeit from different foods won’t do anything duck. Now losing weight there’s been times where I’ve skipped lunch and had a larger tea, still staying where I want my calories to be (around 1800-2000, after previously being on anywhere between 3000-6000!) You should never be hungry when losing weight, and you never will if you choose nutrient rich foods and not snacking on things which are just empty calories. Almonds, cashews, walnuts, peanuts, all healthier than the mighty choccy biscuit, and will undeniably leave you fuller, so that you may forego aforementioned sausage roll!
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Post by metalhead on Mar 7, 2021 12:55:41 GMT
Correct. The other thing that we've historically enshrined in this country, something I have also been guilty of in the past, we are compulsive eaters. We are told (mainly by fat people) that we must eat three meals a day otherwise we're breaking some kind of moral fatty code. Granted, I think breakfast is important as it sets your mood up for the day (although I'll come back to that) but if you get to lunch and you're feeling ok then there is absolutely nothing wrong with skipping it. You won't die of malnutrition or starve yourself of vital ingredients like some lard arse with blue hair working for the Huffington Post will have you believe. Again, your body will use the energy at its disposal (either more of your breakfast or stored reserves). Equally, if you had a decent lunch and subsequently get home from work a bit later than expected and think "I could probably skip tea"... Do it!! You'll actually sleep better because eating before bed usually provides an unnecessary energy boost to keep you awake and you'll save 600-800 calories in the process, you'll also feel better in the morning. If you are lying in bed and are really hungry, try and fight the urge to eat by drinking water or diet coke if you must, and you'll do your body the world of good. As a society, we take meal times as literal cues to shovel shit down our throats whereas we evolved by eating intermittently as food was not always available. "It's lunchtime, best go get me two sausage rolls from Greggs" like some weird ritualistic bullshit.... Or, don't? Save some money and make your breakfast last a bit longer. On breakfast, once you've got the hang of occasionally skipping other meals, you'll also realise you can actually downsize or skip breakfast to, if you are happy it doesn't affect your ability to work. Just make sure you're getting a good level of nutrients elsewhere (multi vitamins are a good option). 100% agree with all points here! When my mum lost a tonne of weight, her personal trainer also said to disregard meal times, he said, if you’re actually hungry, eat! It’s all about making the right choices, but more importantly, moderation and calculation. I’ve seen larger people eat an absolute mountain of chicken, brown rice and avocado and complain about not losing weight. Yes you may be eating the right foods, but eating the same 3500 calories, albeit from different foods won’t do anything duck. Now losing weight there’s been times where I’ve skipped lunch and had a larger tea, still staying where I want my calories to be (around 1800-2000, after previously being on anywhere between 3000-6000!) You should never be hungry when losing weight, and you never will if you choose nutrient rich foods and not snacking on things which are just empty calories. Almonds, cashews, walnuts, peanuts, all healthier than the mighty choccy biscuit, and will undeniably leave you fuller, so that you may forego aforementioned sausage roll! I personally don't mind being hungry in bed at night. Eventually, I trained myself to tolerate it and in time appreciate the benefits. If you are hungry in bed, then your body will turn to food stored which will not only help you lose weight, it'll help you sleep better, as your body works during the night. You'll usually wake up a little bit low on energy, but that's when you can treat yourself to a good breakfast and by 9am you'll be fresh again. Like I said, Morgan Spurlock didn't gain all that weight by eating McDonalds. He shoved around 5000 calories a day down his throat as part of some ridiculous unscientific 'experiment'. Eat 5000 calories of fresh chicken and rice and you'll soon be plumping up.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 7, 2021 15:17:15 GMT
100% agree with all points here! When my mum lost a tonne of weight, her personal trainer also said to disregard meal times, he said, if you’re actually hungry, eat! It’s all about making the right choices, but more importantly, moderation and calculation. I’ve seen larger people eat an absolute mountain of chicken, brown rice and avocado and complain about not losing weight. Yes you may be eating the right foods, but eating the same 3500 calories, albeit from different foods won’t do anything duck. Now losing weight there’s been times where I’ve skipped lunch and had a larger tea, still staying where I want my calories to be (around 1800-2000, after previously being on anywhere between 3000-6000!) You should never be hungry when losing weight, and you never will if you choose nutrient rich foods and not snacking on things which are just empty calories. Almonds, cashews, walnuts, peanuts, all healthier than the mighty choccy biscuit, and will undeniably leave you fuller, so that you may forego aforementioned sausage roll! I personally don't mind being hungry in bed at night. Eventually, I trained myself to tolerate it and in time appreciate the benefits. If you are hungry in bed, then your body will turn to food stored which will not only help you lose weight, it'll help you sleep better, as your body works during the night. You'll usually wake up a little bit low on energy, but that's when you can treat yourself to a good breakfast and by 9am you'll be fresh again. Like I said, Morgan Spurlock didn't gain all that weight by eating McDonalds. He shoved around 5000 calories a day down his throat as part of some ridiculous unscientific 'experiment'. Eat 5000 calories of fresh chicken and rice and you'll soon be plumping up. I found this useful when I went on the diabetes prevention program last year 1 in 6 people in hospital has diabetes, it costs a whopping 10% of the NHS budget to treat type 2 diabetes. It's a lifestyle choice most of the sufferers make and is preventable with better diet and some exercise
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Post by felonious on Mar 7, 2021 16:32:40 GMT
I personally don't mind being hungry in bed at night. Eventually, I trained myself to tolerate it and in time appreciate the benefits. If you are hungry in bed, then your body will turn to food stored which will not only help you lose weight, it'll help you sleep better, as your body works during the night. You'll usually wake up a little bit low on energy, but that's when you can treat yourself to a good breakfast and by 9am you'll be fresh again. Like I said, Morgan Spurlock didn't gain all that weight by eating McDonalds. He shoved around 5000 calories a day down his throat as part of some ridiculous unscientific 'experiment'. Eat 5000 calories of fresh chicken and rice and you'll soon be plumping up. I found this useful when I went on the diabetes prevention program last year 1 in 6 people in hospital has diabetes, it costs a whopping 10% of the NHS budget to treat type 2 diabetes. It's a lifestyle choice most of the sufferers make and is preventable with better diet and some exercise A good diet could solve a multitude of problems for the NHS. We only have to listen to our insufferable friend for 5 minutes for confirmation
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 7, 2021 18:33:30 GMT
I found this useful when I went on the diabetes prevention program last year 1 in 6 people in hospital has diabetes, it costs a whopping 10% of the NHS budget to treat type 2 diabetes. It's a lifestyle choice most of the sufferers make and is preventable with better diet and some exercise A good diet could solve a multitude of problems for the NHS. We only have to listen to our insufferable friend for 5 minutes for confirmation That's very true, but does rely on a large dose of individual responsibility, which the very fact that Brits are the fatboys of Europe already would tend to indicate isn't really there! So then it comes down to having to 'force' people through pricing or legislating for businesses to use less salt and sugar, which is just immediately attacked as nannying, or much more likely these days, another sign of the woke agenda taking control of people's lives. I'd be all for people being daft enough to eat and drink themselves to oblivion if they wanted to, it wasn't for the fact that it costs the rest of us too in totally avoidable use of NHS resources, sick pay, productivity loss and all the other impacts.
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