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Post by harryburrows on Mar 7, 2021 22:42:35 GMT
I found this useful when I went on the diabetes prevention program last year 1 in 6 people in hospital has diabetes, it costs a whopping 10% of the NHS budget to treat type 2 diabetes. It's a lifestyle choice most of the sufferers make and is preventable with better diet and some exercise A good diet could solve a multitude of problems for the NHS. We only have to listen to our insufferable friend for 5 minutes for confirmation And he drinks his own piss as well 🙄
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 11, 2021 14:46:05 GMT
I personally don't mind being hungry in bed at night. Eventually, I trained myself to tolerate it and in time appreciate the benefits. If you are hungry in bed, then your body will turn to food stored which will not only help you lose weight, it'll help you sleep better, as your body works during the night. You'll usually wake up a little bit low on energy, but that's when you can treat yourself to a good breakfast and by 9am you'll be fresh again. Like I said, Morgan Spurlock didn't gain all that weight by eating McDonalds. He shoved around 5000 calories a day down his throat as part of some ridiculous unscientific 'experiment'. Eat 5000 calories of fresh chicken and rice and you'll soon be plumping up. I found this useful when I went on the diabetes prevention program last year 1 in 6 people in hospital has diabetes, it costs a whopping 10% of the NHS budget to treat type 2 diabetes. It's a lifestyle choice most of the sufferers make and is preventable with better diet and some exercise Indeed so. I wonder why obesity, its health consequences and the cost to the country both financially and in societal terms are worth just four pages of Oatcake comment, whereas "cancel culture" and other stuff which really has little or no relevance and not worth vexing over, rages on for pages? Could it be because Stokies are generally more likely to be obese and therefore don't want to read about this stuff because it's too close to home, whereas "cancel culture" is a vague irritant that it's nice to whine about but doesn't really have much direct impact? Pity, as it costs us a fortune. moderngov.staffordshire.gov.uk/documents/s76613/ITEM%2003-2BHealth%20and%20Wellbeing%20Board%20Deep%20Dive%20November%202015%20FINAL.pdf£273m a year, just locally. Or to put it in language crappy might appreciate, imagine how many asylum seekers you could house in 4* hotels for that every year Strange priorities some folk have.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 11, 2021 15:23:20 GMT
This is the reason as a nation we're getting fatter: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/07/fat-shamers-have-felt-enabled-by-covid-and-its-hard-to-fight-backFat-shamers have felt enabled by Covid. I mean, it's fucking comical isn't it? Smoking causes cancer and for years we've been able to say it, without fear of being called 'cigarette shaming'. Obesity causes cancer... and yet when Cancer Research UK put out a statement confirming that obesity now causes more cases of cancer than smoking (probably due to the decrease in smoking and the increase in obesity), they are immediately labelled fat shaming and fatphobic. Here we have it again.... Covid disproportionately affects obese individuals, but you better not say it out loud because you're just a mean fat-shamer if you do. Why has it become unacceptable to say things that are known quantities? Smoking causes lung cancer. There is undeniable proof. Drinking excessively causes liver failure. There is undeniable proof. Obesity? You're beautiful as you are and are healthier than people who aren't obese. Ta.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Mar 11, 2021 15:45:18 GMT
I think all students in school should have a course in Food and Nutrition, including knowing what a balanced should consist of and learning how to prepare and cook simple nutritious meals. Takeaways are o.k. once in a while but the majority of them are loaded in fat and salt neither of which are good for you in excess. It is not all that difficult to prepare and cook a good meal. Eat plenty of fruit and veg and sitting round the table as a family is better than eating a ready meal out of a box slumped in front of the telly (or computer game). It is far cheaper to prepare a meal than to buy a takeaway. Simples!
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Post by nott1 on Mar 11, 2021 16:24:42 GMT
You only have to look at any precinct or shopping centre to see the fat ridden rubbish take away shops fare that dribbles down every fatties face on a regular basis! They should also be made to clean up the litter surrounding them every day at closing time!
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Post by starkiller on Mar 11, 2021 16:49:04 GMT
The couch potato lifestyle has the most to with it. Bad food goes hand in hand with it.
Generally speaking, in other parts of the world, there is less of the TV obsession, and evenings are spent doing other things.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 11, 2021 17:22:03 GMT
You only have to look at any precinct or shopping centre to see the fat ridden rubbish take away shops fare that drivels down every fatties face on a regular basis! They should also be made to clean up the litter surrounding them every day at closing time! That last sentence...are you referring to the take aways or the "fatties"?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 11, 2021 17:51:04 GMT
There was a story about Stoke being the laziest place in the country this other week. People were only prepared to walk 2/3 of smile to get to the shops etc, after that they'd drive given the choice.
I've very little sympathy. None of this information is unknown or even hidden. I can't wait for some fat nursey to tell me my BMI is too high, I'm going to request that they use the callipers to calculate it instead.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 18:04:15 GMT
You never see those scales outside shops etc any more. Maybe a reason why
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Post by lordb on Mar 11, 2021 18:49:56 GMT
I'd post a lengthy comment but am just picking up a Chinese
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Post by 4ndr3w on Mar 11, 2021 19:03:41 GMT
The couch potato lifestyle has the most to with it. Bad food goes hand in hand with it. Generally speaking, in other parts of the world, there is less of the TV obsession, and evenings are spent doing other things. This. Too many people are sat in front of the tele letting it brainwash them to death and they don’t even realise it’s happening to them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 22:06:59 GMT
So easy to order food now. press of a button and you can have bag of donuts delivered from Greggs or a take away from wherever. So called plus sized models now as apparently models don't represent the public which in Crewe for instance is true. The Argos catalogue there has 14 year old fat models with prams.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 11, 2021 22:48:22 GMT
I think all students in school should have a course in Food and Nutrition, including knowing what a balanced should consist of and learning how to prepare and cook simple nutritious meals. Takeaways are o.k. once in a while but the majority of them are loaded in fat and salt neither of which are good for you in excess. It is not all that difficult to prepare and cook a good meal. Eat plenty of fruit and veg and sitting round the table as a family is better than eating a ready meal out of a box slumped in front of the telly (or computer game). It is far cheaper to prepare a meal than to buy a takeaway. Simples! I think there is some value in this. We weren't taught about calories and the like at school. I played shed loads of football and did loads of running which kept the weight off. As soon as I got my first job, the weight piled on as my shit diet didn't change.
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Post by erogenous on Mar 12, 2021 0:06:11 GMT
Nail on head There's even a pie shop in the reception at Stafford hospital! I was amazed when I saw that!! It's a full on bakery.
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Post by erogenous on Mar 12, 2021 0:41:29 GMT
I wonder how much our weather plays its part for society as a whole.
Doing anything outdoors in this country is generally an effort compared to sunnier places. With that you lose fun exercise, eating outside, socialising etc.
Its a lot easier here to get shit faced in dark pubs/home and load up on carbs like off the rail hobbits.
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Post by 4ndr3w on Mar 12, 2021 7:42:46 GMT
I think all students in school should have a course in Food and Nutrition, including knowing what a balanced should consist of and learning how to prepare and cook simple nutritious meals. Takeaways are o.k. once in a while but the majority of them are loaded in fat and salt neither of which are good for you in excess. It is not all that difficult to prepare and cook a good meal. Eat plenty of fruit and veg and sitting round the table as a family is better than eating a ready meal out of a box slumped in front of the telly (or computer game). It is far cheaper to prepare a meal than to buy a takeaway. Simples! I think there is some value in this. We weren't taught about calories and the like at school. I played shed loads of football and did loads of running which kept the weight off. As soon as I got my first job, the weight piled on as my shit diet didn't change. It should be taught in schools instead of some of the shite kids are taught. I bet you most kids don’t know which food is a carb protein or fats
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Post by Northy on Mar 12, 2021 7:50:43 GMT
I don’t believe in ‘obesity’ Cristiano Ronaldo is considered overweight. Rugby players are morbidly obese allegedly. All GPs providing this info should be trained in take body fat measurements and disregarding any one with a high BMI but with BF under 20%. I’ve put on 3.5 stone in a year and a half and am currently classed as obese, yet this was done intentionally and body fat will be no higher than 25%. A major overhaul needs to be done, specifically analysing visceral fat. BMI in the general public is OK to determine obesity, it shouldn't be used on athletes with big muscles. Visceral fat is the problem, I was warned about it a few years ago when we had one of those body measuring machines in at work for a day, I'm a slim runner with a 32" waist but was told I did have Visceral fat (peanut butter on bagel was a favourite of mine for fuelling, turns out that's bad for it) I looked down the queue waiting for their turn at all the pot bellied blokes, thinking I may not be that bad
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Post by metalhead on Mar 12, 2021 7:52:41 GMT
I think there is some value in this. We weren't taught about calories and the like at school. I played shed loads of football and did loads of running which kept the weight off. As soon as I got my first job, the weight piled on as my shit diet didn't change. It should be taught in schools instead of some of the shite kids are taught. I bet you most kids don’t know which food is a carb protein or fats I think my understanding after leaving school was "I can eat whatever I want because I'm skinny" and for some strange reason it worked. It didn't work because I was lucky though. I burnt it all. Soon as I left University, that all changed.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 12, 2021 7:55:59 GMT
You never see those scales outside shops etc any more. Maybe a reason why Fatties have bust them all?! Make plus size clothes more expensive. Anything over a 36inch waist or XL for blokes, size 14 for women. That might concentrate a few minds!
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Post by metalhead on Mar 12, 2021 8:45:18 GMT
You never see those scales outside shops etc any more. Maybe a reason why Fatties have bust them all?! Make plus size clothes more expensive. Anything over a 36inch waist or XL for blokes, size 14 for women. That might concentrate a few minds! You'd be surprised. Plus sized clothes usually are more expensive, at least the ones I bought.
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Post by nott1 on Mar 12, 2021 12:55:08 GMT
You only have to look at any precinct or shopping centre to see the fat ridden rubbish take away shops fare that dribbles down every fatties face on a regular basis! They should also be made to clean up the litter surrounding them every day at closing time! That last sentence...are you referring to the take aways or the "fatties"? Both!
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Post by Northy on Mar 12, 2021 13:58:08 GMT
I wonder how much our weather plays its part for society as a whole. Doing anything outdoors in this country is generally an effort compared to sunnier places. With that you lose fun exercise, eating outside, socialising etc. Its a lot easier here to get shit faced in dark pubs/home and load up on carbs like off the rail hobbits. We use to have a lot of worse weather than this in winter times, and the nation wasn't obese then; you used to get 1 fat lad in a class/year and his nickname was invariably fat lad, now if you said 'hey, fat lad' half the class would turn around, the healthy size ones, as the fatties don't think they are fat. A lot of people have just got lazy and uneducated in all aspects of their living with the growth of TV channels, smart phones, and gaming and some having more money than previous generations
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Post by salopstick on Mar 12, 2021 14:16:35 GMT
I wonder how much our weather plays its part for society as a whole. Doing anything outdoors in this country is generally an effort compared to sunnier places. With that you lose fun exercise, eating outside, socialising etc. Its a lot easier here to get shit faced in dark pubs/home and load up on carbs like off the rail hobbits. We use to have a lot of worse weather than this in winter times, and the nation wasn't obese then; you used to get 1 fat lad in a class/year and his nickname was invariably fat lad, now if you said 'hey, fat lad' half the class would turn around, the healthy size ones, as the fatties don't think they are fat. A lot of people have just got lazy and uneducated in all aspects of their living with the growth of TV channels, smart phones, and gaming and some having more money than previous generations And unless you set an example and teach your kids you are setting them up for similar
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Post by nott1 on Mar 12, 2021 16:19:48 GMT
I wonder how much our weather plays its part for society as a whole. Doing anything outdoors in this country is generally an effort compared to sunnier places. With that you lose fun exercise, eating outside, socialising etc. Its a lot easier here to get shit faced in dark pubs/home and load up on carbs like off the rail hobbits. We use to have a lot of worse weather than this in winter times, and the nation wasn't obese then; you used to get 1 fat lad in a class/year and his nickname was invariably fat lad, now if you said 'hey, fat lad' half the class would turn around, the healthy size ones, as the fatties don't think they are fat. A lot of people have just got lazy and uneducated in all aspects of their living with the growth of TV channels, smart phones, and gaming and some having more money than previous generations The only takeaways then were fish and chip shops.There were no burger crap or Chinese and Indian mush!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 12, 2021 17:14:17 GMT
We use to have a lot of worse weather than this in winter times, and the nation wasn't obese then; you used to get 1 fat lad in a class/year and his nickname was invariably fat lad, now if you said 'hey, fat lad' half the class would turn around, the healthy size ones, as the fatties don't think they are fat. A lot of people have just got lazy and uneducated in all aspects of their living with the growth of TV channels, smart phones, and gaming and some having more money than previous generations The only takeaways then were fish and chip shops.There were no burger crap or Chinese and Indian mush! You'd be surprised how long they've been around, but I agree, there weren't takeaway shops in anywhere near the abundance we have them now. Shitty takeaway food really needs to be taxed to oblivion to make it not worth it. Spend the revenue on the NHS.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 12, 2021 17:43:29 GMT
We use to have a lot of worse weather than this in winter times, and the nation wasn't obese then; you used to get 1 fat lad in a class/year and his nickname was invariably fat lad, now if you said 'hey, fat lad' half the class would turn around, the healthy size ones, as the fatties don't think they are fat. A lot of people have just got lazy and uneducated in all aspects of their living with the growth of TV channels, smart phones, and gaming and some having more money than previous generations The only takeaways then were fish and chip shops.There were no burger crap or Chinese and Indian mush! oh come on.... Indian mush? You're not going to sit there and tell me that when you're having your healthy takeaway option, you have the fish and chips? Trust me mate, it's all high calorie food. I think a big contributing factor is that our lifestyles have changed. The tertiary sector, i.e. services such as computer-based jobs are now the norm and the more physical jobs are becoming less and less common. You do need to be careful when living a sedentary lifestyle that you don't allow yourself to balloon, but it's not hard.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Mar 12, 2021 19:02:20 GMT
Once you break the habit of a shit diet, it's pretty easy to do really. There's so much food out there that's low in calories, high in macros, cheap and delicious.
It's also important not to beat yourself up too much if you do cheat on your diet every now and again.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 12, 2021 19:08:28 GMT
The only takeaways then were fish and chip shops.There were no burger crap or Chinese and Indian mush! oh come on.... Indian mush? You're not going to sit there and tell me that when you're having your healthy takeaway option, you have the fish and chips? Trust me mate, it's all high calorie food. I think a big contributing factor is that our lifestyles have changed. The tertiary sector, i.e. services such as computer-based jobs are now the norm and the more physical jobs are becoming less and less common. You do need to be careful when living a sedentary lifestyle that you don't allow yourself to balloon, but it's not hard. This is true, I’ve recently changed my job from 100% office based to 50/50 office/production and the difference in weight, feeling good, eating healthier is massive. I feel so much better being on the go all the time and that leads to better habits diet wise. Well I believe that anyway. Being stuck at a computer all day led to lack of activity, increased stress which led to increased booze and fast food. Very difficult to get motivated when your daily routine is sitting in a comfy chair with offers of cake and biscuits every 5 minutes!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 23:32:18 GMT
I was driving through Crewe about a year ago ( I try no to very often) , a street called West Street, some of you might know it. not the most picturesque place but is in Crewe, what do you expect? Was a woman in the middle of the road, at a guess 20 stone plus in a mobility scooter drinking a can of lager with the rest of a case resting on her knees. No one seemed to bat an eyelid only me, explained a lot. I assumed the mobility scooter was down to her size. Sadly had no time to her number
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Post by 4ndr3w on Mar 13, 2021 8:53:30 GMT
I was driving through Crewe about a year ago ( I try no to very often) , a street called West Street, some of you might know it. not the most picturesque place but is in Crewe, what do you expect? Was a woman in the middle of the road, at a guess 20 stone plus in a mobility scooter drinking a can of lager with the rest of a case resting on her knees. No one seemed to bat an eyelid only me, explained a lot. I assumed the mobility scooter was down to her size. Sadly had no time to her number Most people on west street are Eastern European It’s a right hole I’ll give it that
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