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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 31, 2021 17:34:22 GMT
Make them take back Vokes Stoke
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Post by neddy on Jan 31, 2021 17:35:01 GMT
The only scenario I can see where we would sell for such a low fee is if Burnley know we are in the doo doo re ffp. I can’t see any other reason they would offer such a low ball figure?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 31, 2021 17:36:12 GMT
If they did go to £10m with a few add-ons, it might give us some kind of decision to make. But no idea why you even submit £7.5m What about 7.5 million and Vydra? Hmm. Dunno what to make of Vydra? Hard to judge him as he seems to have disappeared down a Dyche black hole as he's not a big mauler they like in their front 2. Not sure he's the type that MON likes as his focal point either?
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Post by andystokey on Jan 31, 2021 17:39:02 GMT
If they did go to £10m with a few add-ons, it might give us some kind of decision to make. But no idea why you even submit £7.5m They seem serious in terms of getting him if not the price so you'd imagine the clubs might start properly communicating shortly. Anything less than 15 plus serious add ons is still robbery in my eyes. I think they are where we were with Doughty namely if they don't get him now they have no chance in the summer because I think some bigger clubs will wade in. As Covid hopefully retreats his value can only increase. The answer is just no in January regardless.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 31, 2021 20:06:22 GMT
Burnley have made a second bid for Stoke City’s centre-back Nathan Collins, reports Andy Jones.
It is understood that Burnley made an initial enquiry about the 19-year-old centre-back earlier in the window and they have returned with a second bid reported to be around £7.5 million.
It is believed it would take a significantly higher bid than the one tabled by Burnley for Stoke to sell the player who signed a five-year deal in 2019.
Nothing new - but Athletic backing up Nixon that a second bid has gone in
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2021 1:50:00 GMT
I hope he stays.
And I hope he kicks up a fuss and demands to be played at CB.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 1, 2021 5:14:51 GMT
They are taking the piss with £7.5m.
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2021 11:25:02 GMT
They are taking the piss with £7.5m. If that’s the second bid then Christ knows what they offered initially. Even £7.5m is a piss take. £12m with add ons or they can do one.
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2021 11:26:09 GMT
I hope he stays. And I hope he kicks up a fuss and demands to be played at CB. And play Smith instead? Weren’t you a huge critic of his?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 1, 2021 11:28:55 GMT
Burnley can't afford him, it won't happen.
If he's got half the brains I think he's got then he'll wait until the summer for bigger and better options, not just for him but also for us financial speaking. He shouldn't be in a rush to move to bloody Burnley.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 1, 2021 11:29:51 GMT
All gone quiet on this one. Nothing to see. Same with Powell.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2021 11:29:59 GMT
I hope he stays. And I hope he kicks up a fuss and demands to be played at CB. And play Smith instead? Weren’t you a huge critic of his? I still am. But this tweet sums up my position with him nicely.
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2021 11:31:30 GMT
And play Smith instead? Weren’t you a huge critic of his? I still am. But this tweet sums up my position with him nicely. A sort of backtracking. This is a watershed moment if you’re admitting you were wrong 😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2021 11:34:24 GMT
I still am. But this tweet sums up my position with him nicely. A sort of backtracking. This is a watershed moment if you’re admitting you were wrong 😂 Read the tweet. I'm not saying I'm wrong or backtracking. He's shit. But that doesn't matter. We need Collins at CB asap and a full back to support Clarke. I'd play Edwards but that ain't going to happen so he has to play Smith.
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Post by neddy on Feb 1, 2021 11:38:22 GMT
I’d really love to ask Burnley how they compare their valuations of Vokes and Collins!
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2021 11:39:09 GMT
A sort of backtracking. This is a watershed moment if you’re admitting you were wrong 😂 Read the tweet. I'm not saying I'm wrong or backtracking. He's shit. But that doesn't matter. We need Collins at CB asap and a full back to support Clarke. I'd play Edwards but that ain't going to happen so he has to play Smith. Edwards isn’t the answer. I’d give Smith another go too but I’m wary of his shortcomings before, pace is one but Collins lacks that also.
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Post by lordb on Feb 1, 2021 11:40:30 GMT
A sort of backtracking. This is a watershed moment if you’re admitting you were wrong 😂 Read the tweet. I'm not saying I'm wrong or backtracking. He's shit. But that doesn't matter. We need Collins at CB asap and a full back to support Clarke. I'd play Edwards but that ain't going to happen so he has to play Smith. rather play Collins at RB than Smith personally Collins, Souttar, Chester, RND is our best back 4 have no problem with Fox at LB Smith, Collins, Souttar, RND not as good
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2021 11:41:29 GMT
Read the tweet. I'm not saying I'm wrong or backtracking. He's shit. But that doesn't matter. We need Collins at CB asap and a full back to support Clarke. I'd play Edwards but that ain't going to happen so he has to play Smith. Edwards isn’t the answer. I’d give Smith another go too but I’m wary of his shortcomings before, pace is one but Collins lacks that also. Collins doesn't lack pace, he's just not a full back and not used to the one on one stuff because it's not something you should be doing often as a centre back. Unless you play for us of course and have no midfield protection. Edwards is better than Smith easily. But Smith is who we have and we shouldn't use his faults to not progress one of the best young centre halfs in the country.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 1, 2021 11:42:26 GMT
I still am. But this tweet sums up my position with him nicely. A sort of backtracking. This is a watershed moment if you’re admitting you were wrong 😂 You think Smith is any good?! Blimey.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2021 11:42:42 GMT
Read the tweet. I'm not saying I'm wrong or backtracking. He's shit. But that doesn't matter. We need Collins at CB asap and a full back to support Clarke. I'd play Edwards but that ain't going to happen so he has to play Smith. rather play Collins at RB than Smith personally Collins, Souttar, Chester, RND is our best back 4 have no problem with Fox at LB Smith, Collins, Souttar, RND not as good Collins needs games at centre back and we need to develop that partnership for next season now. That's the top and the bottom of it for me. Playing Collins at right back is a total waste and limiting Clarke massively.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 1, 2021 11:49:38 GMT
rather play Collins at RB than Smith personally Collins, Souttar, Chester, RND is our best back 4 have no problem with Fox at LB Smith, Collins, Souttar, RND not as good Collins needs games at centre back and we need to develop that partnership for next season now. That's the top and the bottom of it for me. Playing Collins at right back is a total waste and limiting Clarke massively. That would require joined up thinking we don't do that, plugging holes covering the shit transfer business over the past five seasons, we payed decent money for a RB he should be playing that's his fcuking job FFS.
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2021 12:25:57 GMT
A sort of backtracking. This is a watershed moment if you’re admitting you were wrong 😂 You think Smith is any good?! Blimey. You’ll have to help me out with where I’ve said that.
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2021 12:26:56 GMT
Edwards isn’t the answer. I’d give Smith another go too but I’m wary of his shortcomings before, pace is one but Collins lacks that also. Collins doesn't lack pace, he's just not a full back and not used to the one on one stuff because it's not something you should be doing often as a centre back. Unless you play for us of course and have no midfield protection. Edwards is better than Smith easily. But Smith is who we have and we shouldn't use his faults to not progress one of the best young centre halfs in the country. Not lacking pace for a CB no but he’s not as quick as you’d want from a fullback.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2021 12:27:36 GMT
Collins doesn't lack pace, he's just not a full back and not used to the one on one stuff because it's not something you should be doing often as a centre back. Unless you play for us of course and have no midfield protection. Edwards is better than Smith easily. But Smith is who we have and we shouldn't use his faults to not progress one of the best young centre halfs in the country. Not lacking pace for a CB no but he’s not as quick as you’d want from a fullback. He’s not a full back in any way shape or form.
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2021 12:31:37 GMT
Not lacking pace for a CB no but he’s not as quick as you’d want from a fullback. He’s not a full back in any way shape or form. No he’s not, but it’s damning that Smith isn’t preferred over a CB, and I thinks it’s because he’s maybe not good enough, or have Stoke derailed another career. He was Huddersfield captain wasnt he?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 1, 2021 12:37:35 GMT
You think Smith is any good?! Blimey. You’ll have to help me out with where I’ve said that. I still am. But this tweet sums up my position with him nicely. A sort of backtracking. This is a watershed moment if you’re admitting you were wrong 😂
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Post by a on Feb 1, 2021 12:38:17 GMT
You’ll have to help me out with where I’ve said that. A sort of backtracking. This is a watershed moment if you’re admitting you were wrong 😂 I was pointing out that he was backtracking on his opinion of him, not mine.
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Post by mattythestokie on Feb 1, 2021 12:42:28 GMT
Burnley can't afford him, it won't happen. If he's got half the brains I think he's got then he'll wait until the summer for bigger and better options, not just for him but also for us financial speaking. He shouldn't be in a rush to move to bloody Burnley. I think Burnley could be a good stepping stone for him. Would be horrible to see him go to one of the big boys to get the occasional loan and be forgotten about. Whereas Burnley he could get first team football very soon.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 1, 2021 12:44:03 GMT
Burnley can't afford him, it won't happen. If he's got half the brains I think he's got then he'll wait until the summer for bigger and better options, not just for him but also for us financial speaking. He shouldn't be in a rush to move to bloody Burnley. I think Burnley could be a good stepping stone for him. Would be horrible to see him go to one of the big boys to get the occasional loan and be forgotten about. Whereas Burnley he could get first team football very soon. Not this season he won't. There is absolutely no rush for him to move now.
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Post by onepara on Feb 1, 2021 12:44:50 GMT
I still am. But this tweet sums up my position with him nicely. A sort of backtracking. This is a watershed moment if you’re admitting you were wrong 😂 It's called backtracking. A cop out.
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