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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 5, 2021 19:53:34 GMT
Another 2 million quid pissed up the wall He's alright as cover out wide and I think he'll improve a bit but I don't get why MON thinks he's a striker, he just isn't a striker.
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Post by yeswilko on Feb 5, 2021 19:59:08 GMT
Another 2 million quid pissed up the wall He's alright as cover out wide and I think he'll improve a bit but I don't get why MON thinks he's a striker, he just isn't a striker. How many clear cut chances have been created for him though? I don’t recall many that you would label a sitter that he’s missed. I don’t think he’s had the service for us to properly judge him as a striker yet.
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Post by march4 on Feb 5, 2021 20:03:19 GMT
He's alright as cover out wide and I think he'll improve a bit but I don't get why MON thinks he's a striker, he just isn't a striker. How many clear cut chances have been created for him though? I don’t recall many that you would label a sitter that he’s missed. I don’t think he’s had the service for us to properly judge him as a striker yet. Even Vokes gets into positions to miss chances. Brown doesn’t even do that. He is a hardworking player who has gone through the pain barrier for the club. There must be somewhere on the pitch where he will be an asset. It certainly isn’t in an offensive position.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 5, 2021 20:03:58 GMT
Another 2 million quid pissed up the wall He's alright as cover out wide and I think he'll improve a bit but I don't get why MON thinks he's a striker, he just isn't a striker. He’s a nuisance, he just can’t shoot, pass or control a football and is also deceptively slow if such a thing exists. OK I’m being a bit harsh, he’s still young and raw but really needs to step up quickly. This season is a bit of a free hit, next season will make it break him.
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Post by AlliG on Feb 5, 2021 20:11:21 GMT
How many clear cut chances have been created for him though? I don’t recall many that you would label a sitter that he’s missed. I don’t think he’s had the service for us to properly judge him as a striker yet. Even Vokes gets into positions to miss chances. Brown doesn’t even do that. He is a hardworking player who has gone through the pain barrier for the club. There must be somewhere on the pitch where he will be an asset. It certainly isn’t in an offensive position. I thought as far as you were concerned, goals are irrelevant.
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 5, 2021 20:24:50 GMT
Wasn't there also talk of him as a wing back when he rocked up?
Fair to say he's got the engine and the athleticism to be bombing up & down a flank (which one idk) and yet, because he's been 'persevering' up top shall we say, we haven't seen much of his defensive ability if he had any.
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 5, 2021 20:26:08 GMT
He’s Tom Ince with a better work rate and probably a sounder dad.
Barnsley fans told us he’s a crap striker but was decent on the wing. Why O’Neill believes he’s a striker is beyond me.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 5, 2021 20:34:36 GMT
He is not good enough for a top half team in the Championship! He works hard, but unfortunately that is it! Have we really had a player with less understanding of the game? How we could end up paying close to £2M for this player is still a mystery to me!!?? Next chance to offload, please do!
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Post by questionable on Feb 5, 2021 20:46:13 GMT
He’s Tom Ince with a better work rate and probably a sounder dad. Barnsley fans told us he’s a crap striker but was decent on the wing. Why O’Neill believes he’s a striker is beyond me. There’s nothing I’ve seen so far that has me thinking he’s one for the future, he’s nothing more than an athlete and looks nothing like a footballer, shows that regardless of manager we’re still scouting and signing absolute shit, wondering who’s meddling still hmmm 🤔
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Post by datguy on Feb 5, 2021 20:52:11 GMT
He is not good enough for a top half team in the Championship! He works hard, but unfortunately that is it! Have we really had a player with less understanding of the game? How we could end up paying close to £2M for this player is still a mystery to me!!?? Next chance to offload, please do! Don't you wax lyrical about Danny Batth?
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 5, 2021 20:59:09 GMT
He is a young 22 year old, tossed into a position he is not used to playing at a higher level. Patience, give him a chance.
I've posted before that Crouch has said when he moved up a level it took him a year to learn and improve his game to become effective. I'm not suggesting Jacob is a Crouch.
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Post by greenhoff on Feb 5, 2021 21:19:08 GMT
Another 2 million quid pissed up the wall He's alright as cover out wide and I think he'll improve a bit but I don't get why MON thinks he's a striker, he just isn't a striker. I honestly dont think a club in our perilous financial state regarding FFP can afford to spend 2 million quid on a player that's alright as cover out wide and might improve a bit. It was another poor signing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 21:25:01 GMT
He's alright as cover out wide and I think he'll improve a bit but I don't get why MON thinks he's a striker, he just isn't a striker. He’s a nuisance, he just can’t shoot, pass or control a football and is also deceptively slow if such a thing exists. OK I’m being a bit harsh, he’s still young and raw but really needs to step up quickly. This season is a bit of a free hit, next season will make it break him. He may or may not have many faults, but being slow is definitely not one of them. He's got excellent pace, but since he's about the only player in the team that does, he may have to slow down to wait for team mates to join him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2021 21:27:10 GMT
He’s Tom Ince with a better work rate and probably a sounder dad. Barnsley fans told us he’s a crap striker but was decent on the wing. Why O’Neill believes he’s a striker is beyond me. Because who exactly is his other choice...?
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 5, 2021 21:30:05 GMT
How many clear cut chances have been created for him though? I don’t recall many that you would label a sitter that he’s missed. I don’t think he’s had the service for us to properly judge him as a striker yet. Even Vokes gets into positions to miss chances. Brown doesn’t even do that. He is a hardworking player who has gone through the pain barrier for the club. There must be somewhere on the pitch where he will be an asset. It certainly isn’t in an offensive position. Nah, Vokes just stands still long enough to the point that a good position happens around him eventually. 😂😂
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Post by hyaduck on Feb 5, 2021 21:36:34 GMT
He's an absolute crap footballer plain and simple!
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Post by wuzza on Feb 5, 2021 21:37:18 GMT
The rush to condemn this lad is baffling. How does it help? Give him time to develop and indeed to be played in his best position and who knows it might even help the club we all profess to support !!
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 5, 2021 21:44:43 GMT
The rush to condemn this lad is baffling. How does it help? Give him time to develop and indeed to be played in his best position and who knows it might even help the club we all profess to support !! Football rarely has time for sentiment. See Bojan. Love that guy by the way and think he's easily our best player (yes I'm in denial). Brown has been rubbish so far and I'm sad to say I can't see him improving. MON's record with signings is diabolical too which doesn't bring much faith. We are in decline however you look at it, regressing to hopeful youthful potential and cheap punts. Its depressingly real. He has tine to develop out on loan at best
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Post by hyaduck on Feb 5, 2021 21:46:07 GMT
The rush to condemn this lad is baffling. How does it help? Give him time to develop and indeed to be played in his best position and who knows it might even help the club we all profess to support !! Rubbish, if he hasn't got it now he'll never have it, admit it, it was a crap signing by MON
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 5, 2021 21:48:14 GMT
He's alright as cover out wide and I think he'll improve a bit but I don't get why MON thinks he's a striker, he just isn't a striker. I honestly dont think a club in our perilous financial state regarding FFP can afford to spend 2 million quid on a player that's alright as cover out wide and might improve a bit. It was another poor signing. The £2m will be depreciated over the length of his contract. If MON decides he isn't good enough he may opt to sell this summer. At 23 with the experience gained at Stoke the club might even make a profit selling him.
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 5, 2021 21:49:22 GMT
I honestly dont think a club in our perilous financial state regarding FFP can afford to spend 2 million quid on a player that's alright as cover out wide and might improve a bit. It was another poor signing. The £2m will be depreciated over the length of his contract. If MON decides he isn't good enough he may opt to sell this summer. At 23 with the experience gained at Stoke the club might even make a profit selling him. 1 goal. 24 appearances
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Post by franklin on Feb 5, 2021 22:23:36 GMT
He's alright as cover out wide and I think he'll improve a bit but I don't get why MON thinks he's a striker, he just isn't a striker. I honestly dont think a club in our perilous financial state regarding FFP can afford to spend 2 million quid on a player that's alright as cover out wide and might improve a bit. It was another poor signing. He plays like the ball is made from flubber.
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Post by lancashirelad on Feb 5, 2021 22:29:38 GMT
MON preferred system is 4-3-3 then the only position he can be effective in as in a 4-2-3-1 is wide right. Credit to Brown wanting to play where he is told to, but as a spearhead or playing off another front man in a 2 he does not seem to suit him.
To play central striker/play off position you have to have a natural instinct to know where to be be or draw players out of position which he has not shown is his forte. He does look better out wide with pace and can create so please play Brown there.
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Post by stokefc on Feb 5, 2021 22:42:34 GMT
I honestly dont think a club in our perilous financial state regarding FFP can afford to spend 2 million quid on a player that's alright as cover out wide and might improve a bit. It was another poor signing. The £2m will be depreciated over the length of his contract. If MON decides he isn't good enough he may opt to sell this summer. At 23 with the experience gained at Stoke the club might even make a profit selling him.hahaha yeah ,what's a profit
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Post by wuzza on Feb 5, 2021 22:43:27 GMT
The rush to condemn this lad is baffling. How does it help? Give him time to develop and indeed to be played in his best position and who knows it might even help the club we all profess to support !! Rubbish, if he hasn't got it now he'll never have it, admit it, it was a crap signing by MON Barnsley supporters reckoned he was good and they have seen far more of him. However time will tell because thankfully those that matter won’t be so quick to condemn!
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 6, 2021 8:16:55 GMT
He is not good enough for a top half team in the Championship! He works hard, but unfortunately that is it! Have we really had a player with less understanding of the game? How we could end up paying close to £2M for this player is still a mystery to me!!?? Next chance to offload, please do! Don't you wax lyrical about Danny Batth? I really like Batth as he is an old fashion no nonsense defender. He is not great on the ball, but is our best player in the air both in defence and attack. He is also willing to block everything thrown at him, and when we are under pressure lying deep he is our best defender. He will never be the ball playing defender a lot of people want though, but for me the most important with a defender is that he can defend. Still I now want to see our two young central defenders played together with Batth as back up.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 6, 2021 8:28:27 GMT
If Brown has a careers in football,it will be league 1 at best.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 8:29:44 GMT
He's no worse than McClean plus he's young and still has time to improve
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Post by wilcopotter on Feb 6, 2021 9:27:11 GMT
The £2m will be depreciated over the length of his contract. If MON decides he isn't good enough he may opt to sell this summer. At 23 with the experience gained at Stoke the club might even make a profit selling him. 1 goal. 24 appearances I think that just about sums it up really. Hope he comes good, with the options we have up front I’d persevere for this season, if nothing changes try and off load. Personally, not sure if he’s better in the centre or wide. His best aspect imo is defending from the front, but you need a bit more than that in a forward.
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Post by jarhead on Feb 6, 2021 9:38:42 GMT
He's alright as cover out wide and I think he'll improve a bit but I don't get why MON thinks he's a striker, he just isn't a striker. I honestly dont think a club in our perilous financial state regarding FFP can afford to spend 2 million quid on a player that's alright as cover out wide and might improve a bit. It was another poor signing. Spot on. He’s atrocious. Technically inept. Another Nothing footballer. Welcome to stoke city’s charity home.
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