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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 21, 2021 17:26:58 GMT
Again though, at the time we didn’t know how wedded Rowett was to a system that didn’t really suit a lot of those players. He should’ve done though. Yea it would’ve meant changing it to suit the players very true Or signing players who actually fit it in the first place...
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Post by onepara on Feb 21, 2021 17:28:51 GMT
Has Alfie Doughty left this thread then? The one that is in his name?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2021 17:30:21 GMT
Not forgetting Doughty who should be considered for the left wing too for England obviously.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 21, 2021 17:36:00 GMT
Has Alfie Doughty left this thread then? The one that is in his name? Apologies from me, got carried away😬
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2021 17:42:23 GMT
Has Alfie Doughty left this thread then? The one that is in his name? Apologies from me, got carried away😬 God forbid that people chat civilly about something 😂 I’ve never got why it bothers people when a topic drifts.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 21, 2021 17:45:00 GMT
Apologies from me, got carried away😬 God forbid that people chat civilly about something 😂 I’ve never got why it bothers people when a topic drifts. Well, you know, it’s nice to be courteous to other users who want to talk about the subject matter. Could always start a new thread about England squads for the upcoming Euros I suppose👀
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 21, 2021 17:45:13 GMT
Has Alfie Doughty left this thread then? The one that is in his name? Should be fit to play in around six weeks apparently 👍👍
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 21, 2021 17:47:22 GMT
Has Alfie Doughty left this thread then? The one that is in his name? Should be fit to play in around six weeks apparently 👍👍 Question is does he just become available or work on his fitness levels for a new season? I guess it depends on where we’re at at he business end of the season
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2021 17:49:24 GMT
Should be fit to play in around six weeks apparently 👍👍 Question is does he just become available or work on his fitness levels for a new season? I guess it depends on where we’re at at he business end of the season If he’s back then we should be looking to make sure he’s ok and if that goes well playing him. No one who has played left wing this season has been stellar. No need to rush him though.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 21, 2021 18:01:36 GMT
Should be fit to play in around six weeks apparently 👍👍 Question is does he just become available or work on his fitness levels for a new season? I guess it depends on where we’re at at he business end of the season There’s certainly no point in risking him, especially with him being a fast player suffering from the worst injury a fast player could ever have. That said, if he’s fully recovered, why not throw him in if he gets a couple of decent under 23 games under his belt? Could be a useful weapon for the last 6 games or so...
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 21, 2021 18:05:03 GMT
Question is does he just become available or work on his fitness levels for a new season? I guess it depends on where we’re at at he business end of the season There’s certainly no point in risking him, especially with him being a fast player suffering from the worst injury a fast player could ever have. That said, if he’s fully recovered, why not throw him in if he gets a couple of decent under 23 games under his belt? Could be a useful weapon for the last 6 games or so... Yeh there’s a difference between being fit and playing first team football, I’d like to think we’re doing well enough not to risk him or at least on the bench. If we’re out of contention when he’s fit we may as well leave him out.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 21, 2021 18:09:05 GMT
There’s certainly no point in risking him, especially with him being a fast player suffering from the worst injury a fast player could ever have. That said, if he’s fully recovered, why not throw him in if he gets a couple of decent under 23 games under his belt? Could be a useful weapon for the last 6 games or so... Yeh there’s a difference between being fit and playing first team football, I’d like to think we’re doing well enough not to risk him or at least on the bench. If we’re out of contention when he’s fit we may as well leave him out. There’s an u23 v Crystal Palace on the 12th April. If he’s going to feature this season I’d expect him to play in that game and the next one against Newcastle on the 19th.
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Post by onepara on Feb 21, 2021 18:44:37 GMT
Thanks fellas, for getting back onto the subject.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 21, 2021 18:49:14 GMT
I have heard he is ahead of schedule and may feature by the end of March.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2021 19:03:24 GMT
I have heard he is ahead of schedule and may feature by the end of March. A chance for the Euros yet.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 21, 2021 20:30:36 GMT
Unless we’re closing in on the playoffs I’d prefer to hold him till next season
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 21, 2021 21:26:22 GMT
Unless we’re closing in on the playoffs I’d prefer to hold him till next season If he’s done the correct rehab and played a few u23 games and done ok then what’s the issue? I don’t think they’ll rush him and if he isn’t ready they won’t push him.
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Post by J-Roar on Feb 21, 2021 22:56:32 GMT
No. I want him to play for England. If he'd missed out it would have been down to Gareth Southgate. The crux of your argument seems to be a hypothetical guess that he wouldn't have been in a tournament that didn't take place. And you still seem to be maintaining that you know more about bringing youngsters through than Pep Guardiola. Is that the case? I just think he’s been underplayed and he more than likely wouldn’t have made it to a tournament that he should have been playing in. Sancho shows he doesn’t know it all. He hasn’t become a world class player because of the way he’s been handled, he’s been that for a good 18 months now. Perhaps Foden has benefited from being handled so carefully. Perhaps his manager and club know exactly what they are doing in not burning him out physically and mentally. It is their job after all and they are paid gazillions to do it. Perhaps Sancho has been overplayed- could that be a reason he's not doing as well now? Anything's possible isn't it?
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Feb 21, 2021 23:03:34 GMT
Doughty to make his debut in the final league game, assisting the winner that gets us into the playoffs at the expense of Bournemouth...
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Post by firfuxache on Apr 1, 2024 10:11:13 GMT
Not sure how much truth there is in this story... Attachments:
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 1, 2024 10:18:24 GMT
I'd love to know the story with Doughty. Got to go down as our biggest cock-up after relegation.
People were, with a straight face, suggesting him for the England squad recently too.
He didn't seem unpopular amongst the group while he was here, so can only assume he didn't settle, like Surridge?
I remember seeing this burst of pace at the start of the 21-22 season - and that's about all we did see.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 1, 2024 10:27:22 GMT
Thought we'd done a smashing bit of business when we sold him and recouped our money
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Post by andystokey on Apr 1, 2024 11:09:15 GMT
I'd love to know the story with Doughty. Got to go down as our biggest cock-up after relegation. People were, with a straight face, suggesting him for the England squad recently too. He didn't seem unpopular amongst the group while he was here, so can only assume he didn't settle, like Surridge? I remember seeing this burst of pace at the start of the 21-22 season - and that's about all we did see. I saw him in that early season cup fixture (Fleetwood? or someone) and his biggest problem was he was being asked to do some very strange things positionally. Sam Clucas was playing in front of him and forever kept getting in the way or going for the same ball. He was a flying wingback at his best. That weird spell of good Tymon form basically put paid to him sadly. Given the other players we've persisted with it's a shame. In fairness under MON we brought in several players 2 years early and gave up on them Clarke, Doughty, Philogene, Harwood Bellis, Ostigard spring to mind.
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Post by lordb on Apr 1, 2024 11:11:21 GMT
I'd love to know the story with Doughty. Got to go down as our biggest cock-up after relegation. People were, with a straight face, suggesting him for the England squad recently too. He didn't seem unpopular amongst the group while he was here, so can only assume he didn't settle, like Surridge? I remember seeing this burst of pace at the start of the 21-22 season - and that's about all we did see. I saw him in that early season cup fixture (Fleetwood? or someone) and his biggest problem was he was being asked to do some very strange things positionally. Sam Clucas was playing in front of him and forever kept getting in the way or going for the same ball. He was a flying wingback at his best. That weird spell of good Tymon form basically put paid to him sadly. Given the other players we've persisted with it's a shame. In fairness under MON we brought in several players 2 years early and gave up on them Clarke, Doughty, Philogene, Harwood Bellis, Ostigard spring to mind. He gave up on Ostigaard so he could bring Harwood Bellis in All loans bar Doughty
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Post by andystokey on Apr 1, 2024 11:15:48 GMT
I saw him in that early season cup fixture (Fleetwood? or someone) and his biggest problem was he was being asked to do some very strange things positionally. Sam Clucas was playing in front of him and forever kept getting in the way or going for the same ball. He was a flying wingback at his best. That weird spell of good Tymon form basically put paid to him sadly. Given the other players we've persisted with it's a shame. In fairness under MON we brought in several players 2 years early and gave up on them Clarke, Doughty, Philogene, Harwood Bellis, Ostigard spring to mind. He gave up on Ostigaard so he could bring Harwood Bellis in All loans bar Doughty Yeah, I just don't think we had patience or maybe the time. We could have signed all of them post loan if there had been an appetite. That's a sizeable amount of money between them in today's market.
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Post by lordb on Apr 1, 2024 11:17:29 GMT
He gave up on Ostigaard so he could bring Harwood Bellis in All loans bar Doughty Yeah, I just don't think we had patience or maybe the time. We could have signed all of them post loan if there had been an appetite. That's a sizeable amount of money between them in today's market. We didn't have the money under O'Neill to sign any of them
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 1, 2024 11:20:45 GMT
Not sure how much truth there is in this story... Why not just start a new thread instead or resurrecting a very old one from three years ago?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 1, 2024 11:22:31 GMT
We've been horribly mismanaged on and off the pitch, he's just one of a catalogue of fuck ups that's been made along the way.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 1, 2024 11:31:32 GMT
I'm still not convinced he's that good. Time will tell though.........
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