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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 8, 2020 21:53:43 GMT
So disappointing that. We were cruising and it didn’t feel like we’d lose. Then Vokes happened. Meh. Spot on bayern. Why the fuck Powell didn't take that penalty I will never know we threw that away. Yeah I expected Powell to take it. Why would Vokes take it? All of our managers making tonight. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 8, 2020 21:54:29 GMT
I thought Cardiff would be good as well.
They were utter garbage.
So angry we’ve chucked that game away.
Especially with two away games coming up and a depleted squad.
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Post by britvic72 on Dec 8, 2020 21:55:11 GMT
How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory-bring on Vokes and Shawcross! Shawcross didn’t put a foot wrong from what I saw. Did you watch it? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 8, 2020 21:55:52 GMT
Who in their right mind brings Vokes on and thinks the best thing to do is to take wingers off or put them in a position where they can't create good chances for him, he maybe crap but the service was taken away from him too.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 8, 2020 21:56:13 GMT
How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory-bring on Vokes and Shawcross! Shawcross didn’t put a foot wrong from what I saw. Did you watch it? No he didn't but it was the wrong person to come on. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 8, 2020 21:56:18 GMT
How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory-bring on Vokes and Shawcross! Shawcross didn’t put a foot wrong from what I saw. Did you watch it? Still a shit negative going for the draw at home sub. Poor stuff. |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 8, 2020 21:56:27 GMT
Spot on bayern. Why the fuck Powell didn't take that penalty I will never know we threw that away. Yeah I expected Powell to take it. Why would Vokes take it? All of our managers making tonight. I really do not have a clue as he would have buried it for sure. I would have even put money on McLean to bury the fucker but as soon as Vokes stepped up you could have wrote the script. We folded after that and we need to bounce back which may not be as easy due to the injuries which are piling up. |
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Post by tuum on Dec 8, 2020 21:56:28 GMT
It was Powell's man. Nothing to do with Shawcross. He was I'm afraid in no man's land, which makes a difference. As the captain and CB he either takes charge of that situation or gets Powell organised. I love the bloke to bits but he was flat footed and nowhere. Match rusty. You are entitled to your opinion but I flat out disagree with you. Shawcross was tracking their sub Glatzel at all corners. It did not change throughout the game for the time that Shawcross was on the pitch. Powell was tracking their goalscorer Morrison as he also did for some of the subsequent corners. What do you mean by "get Powell organised"?. Do you expect Shawcross to tie a piece of rope to Powell and Morrison? Powell knew it was his man. He was clearly watching Morrison as the corner was being taken and he tracked him half-arsedly when he moved. He just didn't do it properly. I won't bother with the flat footed and nowhere. (a) because I disagree and (b) because it is not relevant. He may well be match rusty but that had nothing to do with the goal. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 8, 2020 21:56:29 GMT
3 points down the shithole
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Post by ethers26 on Dec 8, 2020 21:56:33 GMT
Sounds daft but it's genuinely upsetting watching Vokes play for us. It really is, if he was fighting, like Brown, you could perhaps forgive him, but he offers nothing, and puts pressure on the rest of the team. Exactly. Can't move, can't jump, obviously can't press, can't finish. Painful  |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 8, 2020 21:56:41 GMT
Injury’s haven’t helped and poor game management from players and manager alike have cost us but we are just finding our level and it just not quite good enough yet top ten but not top 6 and miles off top two , most concerning is how we can’t control,a game , but we have half a team to come back Miles off top 2 ? We were top two at half time you dimwit Take a look at the table tomorrow night after 16 games and then work out who is the dimwit , answers on a post card please . |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 8, 2020 21:57:11 GMT
We've barely got any players left. Ince's 10 minute cameo (did he touch the ball) showed why he can't be trust and Verlinden is returning from a serious injury. We've handed them the game courtesy of that useless twat demanding to take a penalty that he should be nowhere near. 3 penalties in a Stoke shirt and he's missed all 3. After that it's backs to the wall and we gift them 2 goals from calamity defending. The defending is almost excusable given that we are probably dead on our feet and down to bare bones in terms of fit players available. The pressure ramped up after the penalty miss and changed the entire course of the game. The only person costing us victory tonight is Sam Vokes. Until he came on and missed that decisive penalty, we were comfortable and in no danger whatsoever. The subs didn't really change the course of the game. They had 2 efforts at goal, both from set pieces. You don't bring brown off for Ryan im afraid Ince or Verlinden was the obvious choice he chose not to lose and he did. Did well Ince when he came on? Any reluctance to bring on that useless wanker is perfectly fair I'd say, as evidenced yet again by another 15 minute showing where he didn't break sweat and barely touched the ball. How fit is Verlinden? He's played 2 under 23 games in best part of 6 months. |
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Post by franklin on Dec 8, 2020 21:57:15 GMT
Its "you're" just for future reference. Enjoy work tomorrow pal. I will chill and learn the English dictionary to keep you happy Good on you keep abusing people over the internet make you feel big does it im 100% sure you'd say it to my face wouldn't you. |
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Post by miltonstokienew on Dec 8, 2020 21:57:35 GMT
Miles off top 2 ? We were top two at half time you dimwit Take a look at the table tomorrow night after 16 games and then work out who is the dimwit , answers on a post card please . So are we miles off then or not ? |
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Post by Veritas on Dec 8, 2020 21:57:43 GMT
Vokes showing his welsh colours by not playing again his countrymen. Vokes was rubbish but don't make yourself look foolush with idiotic claims like this. |
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Post by nott1 on Dec 8, 2020 21:58:42 GMT
Who in their right mind brings Vokes on and thinks the best thing to do is to take wingers off or put them in a position where they can't create good chances for him, he maybe crap but the service was taken away from him too. Brown was injured. |
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Post by franklin on Dec 8, 2020 22:00:04 GMT
You don't bring brown off for Ryan im afraid Ince or Verlinden was the obvious choice he chose not to lose and he did. Did well Ince when he came on? Any reluctance to bring on that useless wanker is perfectly fair I'd say, as evidenced yet again by another 15 minute showing where he didn't break sweat and barely touched the ball. How fit is Verlinden? He's played 2 under 23 games in best part of 6 months. Too late by then we'd gone he threw any momentum away there and then. |
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Post by xchpotter on Dec 8, 2020 22:00:04 GMT
Tired, devoid of any ideas after Campbell went off and we had Sam Vokes on. Needs to move in January. Total dross. I've stuck up for Vokes until now. Not good enough he wasn't even dirty at full time. I agree he now needs to be moved on. Agreed, but I’m not sure he could even do a job at IKEA or Furniture Village? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 8, 2020 22:00:16 GMT
Who in their right mind brings Vokes on and thinks the best thing to do is to take wingers off or put them in a position where they can't create good chances for him, he maybe crap but the service was taken away from him too. Brown was injured. Yes he was and we had two wingers on the bench. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 8, 2020 22:03:11 GMT
Did well Ince when he came on? Any reluctance to bring on that useless wanker is perfectly fair I'd say, as evidenced yet again by another 15 minute showing where he didn't break sweat and barely touched the ball. How fit is Verlinden? He's played 2 under 23 games in best part of 6 months. Too late by then we'd gone he threw any momentum away there and then. I don't get the determination to stick the boot into the manager. The man is a miracle worker. We've gone from bottom of the league and destined for league 1 to 3 points off the top of the league with a team being patched up and put out onto the pitch 3 times per week. There is one place and one place only any anger should be directed tonight and it most definitely isn't in the direction of the manager. |
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Post by nott1 on Dec 8, 2020 22:03:26 GMT
Yes he was and we had two wingers on the bench. One was Ince (nuff said) the other hasn't played for months though. Plus their corners were showing the defence up. |
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Dec 8, 2020 22:04:02 GMT
How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory-bring on Vokes and Shawcross! Shawcross didn’t put a foot wrong from what I saw. Did you watch it? This. Shawcross did nowt wrong. |
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Post by skelman on Dec 8, 2020 22:04:18 GMT
Vokes paxo-ed us with yet another lazy, sloppy performance.
If MON had've wanted a defender on, he'd have brought on Ryan before that sloth!
Yet Vokes spent minimal time in the opposition half.
Downright lazy performance from him which completely undermined our control of that game!!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 8, 2020 22:05:06 GMT
Yes he was and we had two wingers on the bench. One of whom was Tom Ince so he doesn't count. |
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Post by tuum on Dec 8, 2020 22:05:06 GMT
Very scrappy and hugely disappointing. We lost hope after Tyrese went off and Vokes missed the penalty. We really need a striker in January who can hold the ball up and link the play. Far too much Hoofball. We have one already but he is currently injured. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 8, 2020 22:05:27 GMT
Yes he was and we had two wingers on the bench. One was Ince (nuff said) the other hasn't played for months though. Plus their corners were showing the defence up. He's been playing in the under 23s so he should be fit by now to play half a game at least and Ince still would have been better than shitting it like he did. |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Dec 8, 2020 22:05:30 GMT
Tired, devoid of any ideas after Campbell went off and we had Sam Vokes on. Needs to move in January. Total dross. I've stuck up for Vokes until now. Not good enough he wasn't even dirty at full time. I agree he now needs to be moved on. I've not been critical of him until the last few games. Offers nothing. I'd rather us play Shawcross in his place. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 8, 2020 22:05:32 GMT
Spot on bayern. Why the fuck Powell didn't take that penalty I will never know we threw that away. Yeah I expected Powell to take it. Why would Vokes take it? All of our managers making tonight. All of our managers making tonight. Not the injuries, the missed penalty and the two defensive errors from set pieces. All on the manager apparently..... |
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Post by kerouac on Dec 8, 2020 22:06:30 GMT
How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory-bring on Vokes and Shawcross! Shawcross didn’t put a foot wrong from what I saw. Did you watch it? If he’d have been only half aware of where the ball was for their second,instead of manhandling another forward, he might have tried to clear the ball. We don’t need him,as soon as Souttar is back the better and play him along side Collins. |
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Post by andystokey on Dec 8, 2020 22:06:51 GMT
Collins has to revert to right back Saturday for me. Amongst other things Smith got away with murder tonight but went unnoticed because of other problems. He was woeful.
I hope Souttar is ready to slot back into CB.
Verlinden has to start if Ty is out.
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