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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 7:20:43 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Jan 26, 2021 7:20:43 GMT
We would never be Brentford because Brentford fans accept they sell players, that's their business model. Our fans could never accept that. They accept it because they get good fees for their players. Stoke fans will accept selling players in our current predicament if they go for a fair price Absolutely no chance. If we got £20 million for a player, the same few would moan it wasn't £21mill etc...
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 9:44:02 GMT
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jan 26, 2021 9:44:02 GMT
Would Powell be interested in moving to the prem - yes. I imagine he would and he would expect to be in matchday squads from day one.
Would Collins be interested in a prem move - yes. But would he be happy to spend two seasons in the reserves waiting for his chance..im not so sure.
Of the two I would rather keep collins. And dont believe he is ready for a prem relegation battle with a team like Burnley...but as ive said before, the longer were in the championship the more likely our better players will get picked off one by one by prem teams.
I still think were better to go up this year and take the prem money and see what happens. Even if we come down we should be rid of the mercenaries and with plenty of opportunity to rebuild properly.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 26, 2021 10:38:48 GMT
Would Powell be interested in moving to the prem - yes. I imagine he would and he would expect to be in matchday squads from day one. Would Collins be interested in a prem move - yes. But would he be happy to spend two seasons in the reserves waiting for his chance..im not so sure. Of the two I would rather keep collins. And dont believe he is ready for a prem relegation battle with a team like Burnley...but as ive said before, the longer were in the championship the more likely our better players will get picked off one by one by prem teams. I still think were better to go up this year and take the prem money and see what happens. Even if we come down we should be rid of the mercenaries and with plenty of opportunity to rebuild properly. We need Powell a lot more than we need Collins.
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 12:29:09 GMT
Post by cheadlestokie on Jan 26, 2021 12:29:09 GMT
All clubs in the Championship and indeed up to mid table of the Premier have to recognise the right time to sell a player for good value. Alongside that however we have to have the right recruitment department to replace them immediately. We have had neither for some time hence the position we are now in. I would hate to see Collins go before he has had a decent run in his correct position but if the true value is offered we may have no option but to let a sale go through and the same applies for Powell. It is hoped the new recruitment department knows its job and is able to put forward alternatives to the Manager, obviously at lower transfer fees. Brentford manage it, but very few other clubs do in the Championship. Maybe Norwich and Swansea to a lesser extent. If we keep Collins I think we should put him alongside Souttar and we can see if they are both capable of forming a partnership. Chester does bring experience and organisation but we all know his legs have gone to an extent and balls played down the side of him , especially in a back four, give hime problems due to lack of pace. We then of course need a good right back to go alongside the left back we have brought in who seems to have the right attitude and ability to go with it.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 26, 2021 12:58:40 GMT
Would Powell be interested in moving to the prem - yes. I imagine he would and he would expect to be in matchday squads from day one. Would Collins be interested in a prem move - yes. But would he be happy to spend two seasons in the reserves waiting for his chance..im not so sure. Of the two I would rather keep collins. And dont believe he is ready for a prem relegation battle with a team like Burnley...but as ive said before, the longer were in the championship the more likely our better players will get picked off one by one by prem teams. I still think were better to go up this year and take the prem money and see what happens. Even if we come down we should be rid of the mercenaries and with plenty of opportunity to rebuild properly. We need Powell a lot more than we need Collins. Agreed, without Powell we would be royally buggered. Only creative outlet.
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 13:05:08 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Jan 26, 2021 13:05:08 GMT
Would Powell be interested in moving to the prem - yes. I imagine he would and he would expect to be in matchday squads from day one. Would Collins be interested in a prem move - yes. But would he be happy to spend two seasons in the reserves waiting for his chance..im not so sure. Of the two I would rather keep collins. And dont believe he is ready for a prem relegation battle with a team like Burnley...but as ive said before, the longer were in the championship the more likely our better players will get picked off one by one by prem teams. I still think were better to go up this year and take the prem money and see what happens. Even if we come down we should be rid of the mercenaries and with plenty of opportunity to rebuild properly. We need Powell a lot more than we need Collins. I think Benji's crocodile would be nibbling our arse if he went this window.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Jan 26, 2021 13:13:05 GMT
We need Powell a lot more than we need Collins. I think Benji's crocodile would be nibbling our arse if he went this window. ~ 8 million and Gayle on loan would be okay. Letting him go and not getting in a good replacement would put us in danger of doing a Hull however.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 26, 2021 16:53:23 GMT
Powell is the only player worth watching in the past month. Our wingers have been anonymous, the midfield creates nothing and without Fletcher and Campbell we have nothing upfront.
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 17:09:25 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jan 26, 2021 17:09:25 GMT
I am becoming more convinced by the day that someone has to leave during this transfer windows to balance out FFP.
We know who we want to leave but if we can’t get rid then who does go.
Collins and Powell are both saleable. Would it be a surprise if both left?
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 17:19:49 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 26, 2021 17:19:49 GMT
Powell isn't 'saleable' this window if we want to finish top half.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 17:25:17 GMT
Everyone is for sale if the right offer is made. It's pure business.
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Post by Goonie on Jan 26, 2021 17:25:37 GMT
I wonder if it was Newcastle would they loan/swap Gayle as part of a deal?
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 17:38:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 17:38:15 GMT
Powell isn't 'saleable' this window if we want to finish top half. Bigger picture?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 26, 2021 17:58:28 GMT
Powell isn't 'saleable' this window if we want to finish top half. Bigger picture? Are you happy to write the season off altogether when we're five points off the play offs? With Campbell out and Powell gone, we're going to tank aren't we? Nothing MON has done in the market so far has suggested he could easily replace him.
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Post by ravey123 on Jan 26, 2021 18:26:08 GMT
Are you happy to write the season off altogether when we're five points off the play offs? With Campbell out and Powell gone, we're going to tank aren't we? Nothing MON has done in the market so far has suggested he could easily replace him. We're already tanking - have been since Campbell got injured. Back then we were 1 win of going top - now we are 5 wins off top - about 10 or 12 games later. If that doesn't show people how much we've fallen away I dont know what will
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 18:28:18 GMT
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Post by march4 on Jan 26, 2021 18:28:18 GMT
Powell isn't 'saleable' this window if we want to finish top half. Bigger picture? If Powell and/or Collins leave then we writing off the season.
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 18:42:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 18:42:56 GMT
Are you happy to write the season off altogether when we're five points off the play offs? With Campbell out and Powell gone, we're going to tank aren't we? Nothing MON has done in the market so far has suggested he could easily replace him. No I'm not, but I'm not in charge of the clubs finances and I don't know how desperately we need to cash in on any saleable assets we have. Also, our board will have full faith in the man they chose to manage the club, thinking he will be able to replace any players we sell. Personally, I hope we are in a position to keep hold of our valuable assets until at least this summer but I wouldnt be surprised if one or two leave this window. As far as Powell is concerned, I'm surprised by the interest from the Premier league if I'm honest. He's done well for us, but he hasn't exactly ripped the league apart and gives off the impression of a player who isn't all that arsed about the game, and I don't ever see him making the most of his undoubted talent.
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 18:43:30 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 18:43:30 GMT
If Powell and/or Collins leave then we writing off the season. On the face of it, yes. I don't want Stoke to sell my favourite player. But what does Powell want? If the door closes on him, another opens for someone else. If we were to sell those two for a combined £20M then MON's life changes a lot. He could become a mini version of Rowett, every toy in the shop available. Many players he's looked at but couldn't afford suddenly become buyable. Question is if he knows how to use the money well. We don't really know that. Rowett didn't. MON's record so far isn't good. I still hope it doesn't happen in this window, but maybe the next. In this window I don't think he can get his favourite targets, regardless of the money. But in the summer it's a different story.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 18:44:27 GMT
If Powell and/or Collins leave then we writing off the season. Agree on Powell, but only due to Fletcher and Campbell not being fit. As for Collins, I don't think it would make a scrap of difference to our season of he left this window, and that's not me saying I don't rate him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 18:45:43 GMT
By far my favourite player in this squad. His footballing brain is miles ahead of anyone else we have at the moment.
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 18:53:19 GMT
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Post by nonameface on Jan 26, 2021 18:53:19 GMT
If Powell and/or Collins leave then we writing off the season. On the face of it, yes. I don't want Stoke to sell my favourite player. But what does Powell want? If the door closes on him, another opens for someone else. If we were to sell those two for a combined £20M then MON's life changes a lot. He could become a mini version of Rowett, every toy in the shop available. Many players he's looked at but couldn't afford suddenly become buyable. Question is if he knows how to use the money well. We don't really know that. Rowett didn't. MON's record so far isn't good. I still hope it doesn't happen in this window, but maybe the next. In this window I don't think he can get his favourite targets, regardless of the money. But in the summer it's a different story. That kind of money probably allows us to sign players on frees in the summer with big sign on fees.
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 19:07:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 19:07:52 GMT
On the face of it, yes. I don't want Stoke to sell my favourite player. But what does Powell want? If the door closes on him, another opens for someone else. If we were to sell those two for a combined £20M then MON's life changes a lot. He could become a mini version of Rowett, every toy in the shop available. Many players he's looked at but couldn't afford suddenly become buyable. Question is if he knows how to use the money well. We don't really know that. Rowett didn't. MON's record so far isn't good. I still hope it doesn't happen in this window, but maybe the next. In this window I don't think he can get his favourite targets, regardless of the money. But in the summer it's a different story. That kind of money probably allows us to sign players on frees in the summer with big sign on fees. Good sense of satire, but it does allow us to buy some.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 26, 2021 19:31:06 GMT
If we get say £7-8M for Powell and he really wants to go, can we turn it down?
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Post by jeycov on Jan 26, 2021 19:42:36 GMT
If we get say £7-8M for Powell and he really wants to go, can we turn it down? Of course we can- we need him to have a good chance to be strong contenders for next season
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 20:11:30 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Jan 26, 2021 20:11:30 GMT
If we get say £7-8M for Powell and he really wants to go, can we turn it down? Of course we can- we need him to have a good chance to be strong contenders for next season I can of course see that we need him, but if such a bid comes in and he wants to go with one and a half year left I doubt we'll stop him.
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 20:34:18 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 26, 2021 20:34:18 GMT
Are you happy to write the season off altogether when we're five points off the play offs? With Campbell out and Powell gone, we're going to tank aren't we? Nothing MON has done in the market so far has suggested he could easily replace him. No I'm not, but I'm not in charge of the clubs finances and I don't know how desperately we need to cash in on any saleable assets we have. Also, our board will have full faith in the man they chose to manage the club, thinking he will be able to replace any players we sell. Personally, I hope we are in a position to keep hold of our valuable assets until at least this summer but I wouldnt be surprised if one or two leave this window. As far as Powell is concerned, I'm surprised by the interest from the Premier league if I'm honest. He's done well for us, but he hasn't exactly ripped the league apart and gives off the impression of a player who isn't all that arsed about the game, and I don't ever see him making the most of his undoubted talent. I don't understand the notion that he 'isn't all that arsed about the game'?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 26, 2021 22:20:34 GMT
If we get say £7-8M for Powell and he really wants to go, can we turn it down? Who would we get for that money who is as good as powell?
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Post by andystokey on Jan 26, 2021 22:35:20 GMT
If we decided not to take a Powell offer we have to give him a contract extension. Not to do either would be fucking insane.
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 22:36:32 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jan 26, 2021 22:36:32 GMT
Have we had any offers for Powell? Any reports of interest in him?
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Powell
Jan 26, 2021 22:44:52 GMT
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jan 26, 2021 22:44:52 GMT
Would be really disappointed to see Powell leave he’s a such an asset. When he plays well it makes the rest of the team play well. He puts it about too, gets stuck in, winds the bastards up. I love it.
I agree with others that we’re not in a position to turn down good cash but that figure is over 10m. I think we could live without him next season but it makes us much more one dimensional - down the wings and cross it in. I don’t mind this and think it could improve us as a unit but it would still be a shame.
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