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Post by thequietman on Sept 14, 2020 11:36:17 GMT
Whilst I mourn the departure of the god that is Tom Brady, Patriots with Cam Newton look a much more difficult team to stop offensively.
Maybe that might change as coaches get to watch more tape on him as the season progresses ... maybe not.
Put that together with Patriots' still-fabulous defence and they'll be a very tough team to stop this season.
My only concern is how long it'll take Cam & Belichick to fall out. Got to admit to my jaw hitting the floor when I saw Pats had signed Cam ... he's a long way from your typical Pats/Belichick character !
I'm soooo glad NFL is back. I'll admit to doing a double-take seeing the Raiders on screen as "LV". Las Vegas? Tbh, I'm surprised they hadn't bought a franchise there decades ago.
Pats 20-1 to win the superbowl? I've had a slice of that, thank you very much. You've got to figure the AFC will be between Pats, Chiefs & Ravens. 20-1 was far too big a price to resist even without Brady.
NFC looks a lot more open, but then I rarely focus on what's going on in the NFC anyway tbh.
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Post by marylandstoke on Sept 14, 2020 11:49:32 GMT
Whilst I mourn the departure of the god that is Tom Brady, Patriots with Cam Newton look a much more difficult team to stop offensively.
Maybe that might change as coaches get to watch more tape on him as the season progresses ... maybe not.
Put that together with Patriots' still-fabulous defence and they'll be a very tough team to stop this season.
My only concern is how long it'll take Cam & Belichick to fall out. Got to admit to my jaw hitting the floor when I saw Pats had signed Cam ... he's a long way from your typical Pats/Belichick character !
I'm soooo glad NFL is back. I'll admit to doing a double-take seeing the Raiders on screen as "LV". Las Vegas? Tbh, I'm surprised they hadn't bought a franchise there decades ago.
Pats 20-1 to win the superbowl? I've had a slice of that, thank you very much. You've got to figure the AFC will be between Pats, Chiefs & Ravens. 20-1 was far too big a price to resist even without Brady.
NFC looks a lot more open, but then I rarely focus on what's going on in the NFC anyway tbh.
The ITK that I heard was The Ravens (spits) we’re going to be an awesome bet. We have an understanding in the house that if The Skins The Washington Football team ever get to the big show we’re going, no matter what it costs. By the 2 minute warning I was asking Mrs Md where it was this season
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 14, 2020 12:14:17 GMT
The Pats wont even win their division.
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Post by thequietman on Sept 14, 2020 16:10:54 GMT
The Pats wont even win their division. That's a brave thing to predict, DC. You'd back against a team that's won their division 11 years straight?
They've not got Brady this time, sure, but he wasn't his best in many games last season. A lot of his stats last season were way down. Although I'll concede he's probably still the best there is on a 1yd QB sneak.
Overall they don't look any weaker. Their running game still has power and a much-more mobile (than Brady) Newton can only open up their passing game even more.
Their major offensive weakness is still TE since the retirement of Gronk and Watson's hung up his cleats too now. Be interesting to see how the two rookies go for sure.
Defensively? All I can say is I'm glad I'm a Pats fan. I wouldn't want to be supporting any team facing their defence.
Bills? They'll make the playoffs. They won't win the division. Jets? They might finish with a winning record. Maybe. Dolphins? She stood there laughing ....
Nope, can't see any serious challenge to stop Pats winning the division again. Which is why I say 20-1 is definitely value odds for the Pats.
You wouldn't be a disgruntled Dolphines fan, by any chance?
MS - Ravens - i hack in agreement with your sentiments. Washington? They're actually an NFC team that I don't despise (and that doesn't leave many ...). I can't say their odds of 100-1 inspire me to back them but I'd be utterly delighted to see a Pats v Skins Washington Superbowl.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 14, 2020 16:22:49 GMT
Haha, no mate I'm not a Miami fan. They pushed the Pats though, with just 5 minutes of the 4th quarter to play there was only a field goal between the teams. The Bills will win the division, they steamrolled the Jets & the game was all over by half-time. Great young QB whose passing game improves everytime he plays, an exciting selection of RBs (Which includes the QB!), adding Diggs gives them great options in the passing game, and their defence is solid. Bills 20/1 for the SB, Allen 25/1 for MVP
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 14, 2020 17:52:54 GMT
Bengaals fan here.....from the days of Boomer Esiason, at least in Joe Burrow they have a really good prospect so hopefully a winning season for the Bengals…..
Dark horse for this season - Buffalo Bills
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 14, 2020 18:48:27 GMT
Chargers fan with a soft spot for the Cards here. We squeeked a lucky one yesterday. How good is Murray though. I think the Cards could do well this year. Brilliant win yesterday v the 49ers.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 14, 2020 18:49:06 GMT
Bengaals fan here.....from the days of Boomer Esiason, at least in Joe Burrow they have a really good prospect so hopefully a winning season for the Bengals….. Dark horse for this season - Buffalo Bills Burrow looked good. They’ll improve this year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 19:40:32 GMT
Chiefs fan here - after many years of waiting we finally won it last year. I'd like to think we could do it again this year but that's usually beyond most teams. Ravens to win it if the Chiefs don't.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 14, 2020 20:45:49 GMT
Browns masochist here. I just hope we win more than we lose, for the first time in 13 years. Don't care who wins superbowl as long as it isn't the Steelers, Bengals, or Ravens. I still haven't forgiven the Broncos for Elway's drive either. If we like anyone it's the 49ers. Woof, woof.
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Post by thequietman on Sept 14, 2020 21:42:23 GMT
Haha, no mate I'm not a Miami fan. They pushed the Pats though, with just 5 minutes of the 4th quarter to play there was only a field goal between the teams. The Bills will win the division, they steamrolled the Jets & the game was all over by half-time. Great young QB whose passing game improves everytime he plays, an exciting selection of RBs (Which includes the QB!), adding Diggs gives them great options in the passing game, and their defence is solid. Bills 20/1 for the SB, Allen 25/1 for MVP Hmm. Their first division win for 25 years to break Pats' monopoly of.over a decade? Actually it's not that far fetched. I thought they were the most-improved team last season, hence my prediction they'll finish 2nd + get a wild card slot comfortably. Wouldn't surprise.me at all to.see them get as far as the Championship game. Miami - Pats scoreline was tight but the game was never really on a knife edge. A couple of offensive mistakes + some late exceedingly poor dpi's *** by the Pats made the score much closer than the game was in all honesty. Nice to see we have a good range of teams supported here btw. And no, I'm not a glory Hunter ... I've followed the Pats for 41 years so for a long long time I saw very little in the way of glory. And from the faint sniff of early success I saw, where we were cruelly embarrassed by the Bears, anyone daring to utter the name of William "The Bleeding Fridge" Perry will incur my unending wrath. Kudos to all Browns fans - keep believing! The one NFC team I have any positive feelings for are the Lions. Probably because they're a) a northern working class team and b) they're persistently rubbish Any Cowboys fans should be tied to a chair and have a ravenous ferret shoved up their trouser leg. America's Team? Path. Supporting them is equivalent to being a Gooner. Although I accept that many people now feel the same about us Pats fans.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 29, 2020 18:37:27 GMT
So, the Pats have lost to the Seahawks & barely scraped passed the Raiders... Meanwhile the Buffalo Bills continue to streamroll everyone in their path!
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Post by The man from Utch on Sept 29, 2020 19:19:51 GMT
Haha, no mate I'm not a Miami fan. They pushed the Pats though, with just 5 minutes of the 4th quarter to play there was only a field goal between the teams. The Bills will win the division, they steamrolled the Jets & the game was all over by half-time. Great young QB whose passing game improves everytime he plays, an exciting selection of RBs (Which includes the QB!), adding Diggs gives them great options in the passing game, and their defence is solid. Bills 20/1 for the SB, Allen 25/1 for MVP More chance of me going to the moon than the Bills going to a Super Bowl never mind winning it.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 29, 2020 20:32:56 GMT
Haha, no mate I'm not a Miami fan. They pushed the Pats though, with just 5 minutes of the 4th quarter to play there was only a field goal between the teams. The Bills will win the division, they steamrolled the Jets & the game was all over by half-time. Great young QB whose passing game improves everytime he plays, an exciting selection of RBs (Which includes the QB!), adding Diggs gives them great options in the passing game, and their defence is solid. Bills 20/1 for the SB, Allen 25/1 for MVP Hmm. Their first division win for 25 years to break Pats' monopoly of.over a decade? Actually it's not that far fetched. I thought they were the most-improved team last season, hence my prediction they'll finish 2nd + get a wild card slot comfortably. Wouldn't surprise.me at all to.see them get as far as the Championship game. Miami - Pats scoreline was tight but the game was never really on a knife edge. A couple of offensive mistakes + some late exceedingly poor dpi's *** by the Pats made the score much closer than the game was in all honesty. Nice to see we have a good range of teams supported here btw. And no, I'm not a glory Hunter ... I've followed the Pats for 41 years so for a long long time I saw very little in the way of glory. And from the faint sniff of early success I saw, where we were cruelly embarrassed by the Bears, anyone daring to utter the name of William "The Bleeding Fridge" Perry will incur my unending wrath. Kudos to all Browns fans - keep believing! The one NFC team I have any positive feelings for are the Lions. Probably because they're a) a northern working class team and b) they're persistently rubbish Any Cowboys fans should be tied to a chair and have a ravenous ferret shoved up their trouser leg. America's Team? Path. Supporting them is equivalent to being a Gooner. Although I accept that many people now feel the same about us Pats fans. Browns are 2 and 1. First time winning season in 6 years!!! Can we keep it up? Woof, woof.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 29, 2020 20:43:18 GMT
Browns are 2 and 1. First time winning season in 6 years!!! Can we keep it up? Woof, woof. Browns need to give up on Mayfield for me. He just isn't going to be what they hope he will. They've got so much talent in that squad (Chubb, Hunt, Landry, OBJ, Hooper etc...) But Mayfield is a bust. People like Derek Carr & Teddy Bridgewater (Bog standard QBS) are way above him, and they haven't got half the talent in their teams. Give Case Keenum the job for this season, yeah he's bang average but he's much cheaper than Mayfield! Get him off the wage bill somehow & try & find a new long term QB.
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Post by The man from Utch on Sept 29, 2020 21:32:32 GMT
So, the Pats have lost to the Seahawks & barely scraped passed the Raiders... Meanwhile the Buffalo Bills continue to streamroll everyone in their path! So, have you seen who the Bills are playing over the next 5 games, they win 2 of them I would be surprised. Go Pats!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 30, 2020 7:11:10 GMT
Chargers flattering to deceive and incredibly injury prone. Shame as I was hoping for great things this year even after the Chiefs defeat. They need to stick with their rookie QB though.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 30, 2020 14:26:52 GMT
Guess I'm supporting the Rams as the local team, can't say I understand their plan which seems to involve paying the wages of other teams' players?
Also I still think Jared Goff's eyes might be too close together which can't be good for his depth perception. Seems like a problem for a QB.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 30, 2020 14:57:40 GMT
Browns masochist here. I just hope we win more than we lose, for the first time in 13 years. Don't care who wins superbowl as long as it isn't the Steelers, Bengals, or Ravens. I still haven't forgiven the Broncos for Elway's drive either. If we like anyone it's the 49ers. Woof, woof. I take it that choice was based on the Cleveland Stokers? It's fitting, isn't it, that two such completely under-achieving sports teams should be aligned. Not that I can crow too much, the Dolphins have been shite for years now! About 16, 17 years ago I worked with a bloke who was a huge American sports fan, with the Chicago Cubs being his baseball choice. He badgered me into picking a team. I had no idea so, thinking of the Dolphins, asked if Miami had a baseball side and he mentioned the Florida Marlins so I picked them. For half the year they were spectacularly midtable mediocrity. Towards the end of the season, they went on a winning run which saw them scrape into the wildcard spot for their league. They won their next game which put them in the semi-finals against the Chicago Cubs, my colleague's team. They came back from 3-1 down to win 4-3, then went on to beat the Yankees in the World Series. He was not impressed!
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Post by thequietman on Sept 30, 2020 15:52:13 GMT
So, the Pats have lost to the Seahawks & barely scraped passed the Raiders... Meanwhile the Buffalo Bills continue to streamroll everyone in their path! You sure you're not a disgruntled Bills fan, DC ? "Steamroll" - love it! Still, a 3 point steamroll is as good as a 35 point shut out.
Cam Newton's still not 100% on his option play choosing, but he's starting to get there. Really should have beaten the Seahawks but the QB keeper final play was a bad call. Hey ho.
However, the points-scoring defence is back on the field & the power running is looking good. That's ominous. I'm still very happy with my £10 at 20-1
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 30, 2020 15:54:39 GMT
On the subject of American sports, can someone explain why batters 'get walked' in baseball? Seems counter-intuitive to me, since a home run would score two runs rather than one...
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 30, 2020 16:35:11 GMT
You sure you're not a disgruntled Bills fan, DC ? Haha, no mate. I've just got Josh Allen as my QB in my NFL Fantasy Football league, so I always tend to 'latch on' & cheer for whoever I've got. (This time last year you'd have heard me giving it the big 'un about Lamar Jackson & the Ravens 'cos I had him! )
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 30, 2020 17:01:48 GMT
The Pack is back!
Rodgers looking a different animal again this year and I can feel Lombardi #5 is on its way.
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Post by franklin on Sept 30, 2020 19:11:11 GMT
Pit-Ten postponed due to covid.
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 30, 2020 19:48:17 GMT
On the subject of American sports, can someone explain why batters 'get walked' in baseball? Seems counter-intuitive to me, since a home run would score two runs rather than one... I presume that you are referring to the Intentional Walk. They usually do it because they consider that particular batter too dangerous to pitch to. Most times it's because they are currently on a hot streak or hit for so much power that they are a continual home-run threat. They are literally so worried about that batter either hitting it out, or hitting it into a gap in the outfield (scoring someone else who is already on base) for an extra base hit that they would just as soon put him on first base as to take a chance pitching to him. Also putting someone on first often results in the probability of turning a double-play if the pitcher can get the next hitter to hit a ground ball (As opposed to the 2-run homer you referred to) I've also seen them walk someone just because of which side of the plate they hit from. (Example: Sometimes a left-handed pitcher will intentionally walk a right handed batter to GET to the next guy who is hitting left-handed) But it's usually out of concern for the "danger" that the hitter presents. And yes, because it's professional - I have seen it backfire, walk somebody just to have the next guy jack it out of the park for a 2-run homer. It's a managed risk. Kind of like a football player making a "cynical" tackle to stop a striker from getting into a shooting position. Too dangerous to let go.
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Post by wapiti on Sept 30, 2020 21:50:42 GMT
The Super Bowl teams will be Seattle and Kansas City......Seattle will win 2-0.
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Post by The man from Utch on Sept 30, 2020 22:10:20 GMT
The Super Bowl teams will be Seattle and Kansas City......Seattle will win 2-0. Would not surprise me.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 30, 2020 23:00:02 GMT
Mon the fins.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 1, 2020 10:28:43 GMT
On the subject of American sports, can someone explain why batters 'get walked' in baseball? Seems counter-intuitive to me, since a home run would score two runs rather than one... I presume that you are referring to the Intentional Walk. They usually do it because they consider that particular batter too dangerous to pitch to. Most times it's because they are currently on a hot streak or hit for so much power that they are a continual home-run threat. They are literally so worried about that batter either hitting it out, or hitting it into a gap in the outfield (scoring someone else who is already on base) for an extra base hit that they would just as soon put him on first base as to take a chance pitching to him. Also putting someone on first often results in the probability of turning a double-play if the pitcher can get the next hitter to hit a ground ball (As opposed to the 2-run homer you referred to) I've also seen them walk someone just because of which side of the plate they hit from. (Example: Sometimes a left-handed pitcher will intentionally walk a right handed batter to GET to the next guy who is hitting left-handed) But it's usually out of concern for the "danger" that the hitter presents. And yes, because it's professional - I have seen it backfire, walk somebody just to have the next guy jack it out of the park for a 2-run homer. It's a managed risk. Kind of like a football player making a "cynical" tackle to stop a striker from getting into a shooting position. Too dangerous to let go. Excellent, thanks, forgive my ignorance on the terminology, I've only recently started watching bits of the odd game or two on my BT sport package. And a double play is where two outs are made in one play, presumably? Do they both have to be run out from a ground ball ie throw to one base for the first out then to another for the second?
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Oct 1, 2020 18:09:40 GMT
American Football is absolutely cack
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