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Post by xchpotter on Aug 13, 2020 14:22:33 GMT
ยฃ8-10m??? ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 13, 2020 14:37:25 GMT
No one will pay 8-10m if they do any research. Our best bet is to get his wages off the accounts.
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Butland
Aug 13, 2020 14:39:11 GMT
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Post by lordb on Aug 13, 2020 14:39:11 GMT
If he was being told Butland had to play why was Butland on the bench ? Same with Ince. The idea that O'Neil would that the job with that stipulation is bonkers None of our managers (& there has been a few) have alluded to anything on those lines either. their performances were that bad though that no manager worth his salt would continue to select them.ย At the death they were benched, probably told he was free to do so as the boards & ceo's behinds started to twitch?ย ย What about bauer and the infamous GR /Scholes aalledged' incident, told he had to play, just got a new contract? True or false?ย Clearly false as he didn't play him!
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2020 15:08:57 GMT
Surely we'd be looking at a best case of ยฃ3-4m if there's Prem interest.
If we're looking at Championship, probably more like a multipack of Monster Munch and a mint aero.
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Butland
Aug 13, 2020 15:15:49 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 13, 2020 15:15:49 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2020 15:24:01 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2020 15:35:31 GMT
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Butland
Aug 13, 2020 15:39:08 GMT
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Post by neddy on Aug 13, 2020 15:39:08 GMT
Weโve blown it havenโt we ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
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Butland
Aug 13, 2020 15:49:26 GMT
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Post by bolders on Aug 13, 2020 15:49:26 GMT
We ask for 8-10M they come in with 5M we negotiate to ยฃ6m and bite their hands off
Thatโs only half a mil for Brums 20%
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Post by onionman on Aug 13, 2020 15:58:11 GMT
Surely we'd be looking at a best case of ยฃ3-4m if there's Prem interest. If we're looking at Championship, probably more like a multipack of Monster Munch and a mint aero. Mint Aero possibly but youโre in cloud cuckoo land if you think anyone is going to give up their Monster Munch for Jack Butland.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2020 17:46:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 18:04:39 GMT
I might be wrong, a million miles wrong, but I reckon this is one of the issues in the dressing room that O'Neill alluded to after the Wigan game. The issues that he said he couldn't fix until the summer.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 13, 2020 19:27:30 GMT
He's worth that. Ex England keeper who could easily find form again in the right setup.
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Post by wilcopotter on Aug 13, 2020 19:28:29 GMT
Just wish heโd go, doesnโt want to be here, we donโt want him here, despite the rhetoric. Nothing good about this situation imo.
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Butland
Aug 13, 2020 19:31:14 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 13, 2020 19:31:14 GMT
If we can get a couple of daft sods to take Butland and Allen off our hands for a combined 12-15 million we should defo do it
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 13, 2020 19:31:37 GMT
This agent wouldn't have to set up a "transfer plan" if his client performed like a competent goalkeeper. I have zero sympathy for Jack, it's his own fault he's stranded up shit creek without a paddle.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Aug 13, 2020 19:35:35 GMT
He's worth that. Ex England keeper who could easily find form again in the right setup. Doubt it. Heโs got serious technical problems that heโs very unlikely to rectify. I seriously doubt heโll ever get back to the level he was at before his injury.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 13, 2020 19:40:50 GMT
He's worth that. Ex England keeper who could easily find form again in the right setup. Doubt it. Heโs got serious technical problems that heโs very unlikely to rectify. I seriously doubt heโll ever get back to the level he was at before his injury. You may be right, we'll see.
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Aug 13, 2020 19:43:32 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 13, 2020 19:43:32 GMT
He's worth that. Ex England keeper who could easily find form again in the right setup. Doubt it. Heโs got serious technical problems that heโs very unlikely to rectify. I seriously doubt heโll ever get back to the level he was at before his injury. What are those serious technical problems...out of interest.
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Aug 13, 2020 19:53:52 GMT
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Post by RAF on Aug 13, 2020 19:53:52 GMT
Doubt it. Heโs got serious technical problems that heโs very unlikely to rectify. I seriously doubt heโll ever get back to the level he was at before his injury. What are those serious technical problems...out of interest. Being a vampire is one! Absolutely no control of his area the second I reckon. The lad is low on confidence and he has been let down by his defence a fair bit but he is just not the player we had a couple of years ago. H
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 13, 2020 20:02:00 GMT
This agent wouldn't have to set up a "transfer plan" if his client performed like a competent goalkeeper. I have zero sympathy for Jack, it's his own fault he's stranded up shit creek without a paddle. Not a fan of butts and think that both Davies and Feds (before he left) performed much better and the increased confidence in defence was stark with both of the "stand ins". But I do think your "itโs his own fault" assessment is a lttle harsh given his injury, the stuttered recovery followed by clear mental difficulties. The only finger you can point at him is for not recognising his own issues and standing himself down to get proper professional help. Or he has not been well advised but find that hard to believe given his mentor was the King himself.
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Aug 13, 2020 20:02:25 GMT
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 13, 2020 20:02:25 GMT
I think even he would admit he needs a move to try to rediscover any kind of form.
Davies and Bursik next season doesn't sound too bad
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Aug 13, 2020 20:03:19 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 13, 2020 20:03:19 GMT
What are those serious technical problems...out of interest. Being a vampire is one! Absolutely no control of his area the second I reckon. The lad is low on confidence and he has been let down by his defence a fair bit but he is just not the player we had a couple of years ago. H Not really technical that though is it?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 13, 2020 20:06:57 GMT
Doubt it. Heโs got serious technical problems that heโs very unlikely to rectify. I seriously doubt heโll ever get back to the level he was at before his injury. What are those serious technical problems...out of interest. You need a list? Sure ill go for it Shit at pennos Never comes for crosses Shit at one-on-ones Cant kick Never saves low down near the post
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Post by datguy on Aug 13, 2020 20:17:16 GMT
We're his fall back option? Deary me, he's been shown up by a keeper that has done the bare basics since he's come in to the side. 8-10m is fantasy. I'd sell at anything above ยฃ4m. And I think we would too tbh.
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Butland
Aug 13, 2020 20:23:00 GMT
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Post by zerps on Aug 13, 2020 20:23:00 GMT
He's worth that. Ex England keeper who could easily find form again in the right setup. Doubt it. Heโs got serious technical problems that heโs very unlikely to rectify. I seriously doubt heโll ever get back to the level he was at before his injury. A goalkeeper that can only dive one way is scrap heap
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 13, 2020 20:23:38 GMT
If I'm reading that correctly, he's announced that he's off at the end of next season, no matter what?
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Aug 13, 2020 20:24:50 GMT
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Post by RAF on Aug 13, 2020 20:24:50 GMT
Being a vampire is one! Absolutely no control of his area the second I reckon. The lad is low on confidence and he has been let down by his defence a fair bit but he is just not the player we had a couple of years ago. H Not really technical that though is it? What actually is technical about goalkeeping? Shot stopping? Commanding his area? Dealing with crosses? Kicking? The only thing I can think is actually technical is closing down the angles on an attacker. All the above he's not been great at over the last couple of years. H
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Aug 13, 2020 20:31:52 GMT
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 13, 2020 20:31:52 GMT
If Bursik isn't ready I Can see Stoke going for Joe Hart on a free and loaning Butland out if his wages can get paid. Even a swap deal for Begovic would do in my opinion
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Butland
Aug 13, 2020 20:34:11 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 13, 2020 20:34:11 GMT
Not really technical that though is it? What actually is technical about goalkeeping? Shot stopping? Commanding his area? Dealing with crosses? Kicking? The only thing I can think is actually technical is closing down the angles on an attacker. All the above he's not been great at over the last couple of years. H You'd be surprised. Stick to golf mate
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