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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 17, 2021 19:39:24 GMT
Strange isn't it, British people who fought against a potential invasion are heroes, those who defend their country from the British doing the same thing they suffered are classed as terrorists/cowardly etc. Not only that they get upset when someone won't respect the armed forces responsible. Derry suffered more than anywhere, the fact that McClean wasn't born as someone pointed out is irrelevant. By that logic those not alive during WW2 doesn't have the place to respect those who died. Derry is still suffering as a result of British rule as is the whole country in different ways. Every time someone criticises Mclean we seem to get the same pre scripted reply, he supports cowardly murderers etc which is of course nonsense and just repeating what those before have come out with. Are you really comparing the attempted Nazi invasion of Britain and the troubles?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 19:48:02 GMT
Strange isn't it, British people who fought against a potential invasion are heroes, those who defend their country from the British doing the same thing they suffered are classed as terrorists/cowardly etc. Not only that they get upset when someone won't respect the armed forces responsible. Derry suffered more than anywhere, the fact that McClean wasn't born as someone pointed out is irrelevant. By that logic those not alive during WW2 doesn't have the place to respect those who died. Derry is still suffering as a result of British rule as is the whole country in different ways. Every time someone criticises Mclean we seem to get the same pre scripted reply, he supports cowardly murderers etc which is of course nonsense and just repeating what those before have come out with. Are you really comparing the attempted Nazi invasion of Britain and the troubles? Am comparing someone defending their country from foreign invaders whoever they are. thought was obvious
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Post by leicspotter on Feb 17, 2021 19:48:46 GMT
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Post by Davef on Feb 17, 2021 19:50:00 GMT
The video is 21 secs long about 5 is actual National Anthem however as Malcom has spoken should we all fall into line ? Good try but I notice you have avoided answering my question about QAnon! To be honest, I'm having a bit of trouble deciding whose version of the McClean National Anthem snub to believe. Dr Malcolm Clarke, respected public figure, former Lord Mayor of Newcastle and chair of the FSF or somebody who thinks the Saville Report was chaired by one of the world's most notorious sexual predators.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 19:52:49 GMT
The video is 21 secs long about 5 is actual National Anthem however as Malcom has spoken should we all fall into line ? Good try but I notice you have avoided answering my question about QAnon! Never heard of it, I am not a sheeple either
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 19:56:27 GMT
Good try but I notice you have avoided answering my question about QAnon! To be honest, I'm having a bit of trouble deciding whose version of the McClean National Anthem snub to believe. Dr Malcolm Clarke, respected public figure, former Lord Mayor of Newcastle and chair of the FSF or somebody who thinks the Saville Report was chaired by one of the world's most notorious sexual predators. Have you tried taking the time to read what his teammate said who happened to be present that day ?, maybe Dr Clarke was there as well or maybe he wasn't, the fact that you believe I thought The Saville report was chaired by Jimmy says more about you than me
Just seen who liked your post can you have a word he is goading me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 20:00:08 GMT
Are you really comparing the attempted Nazi invasion of Britain and the troubles? Am comparing someone defending their country from foreign invaders whoever they are. thought was obvious This really is getting silly now. Sooner McClean goes and we can put all this behind us the better
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 20:02:16 GMT
Am comparing someone defending their country from foreign invaders whoever they are. thought was obvious This really is getting silly now. Sooner McClean goes and we can put all this behind us the better he shoud be able to play where he wants without stupid abuse because some can't think for themselves and follow the crowd repeating the same nonsense.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 20:02:47 GMT
Strange isn't it, British people who fought against a potential invasion are heroes, those who defend their country from the British doing the same thing they suffered are classed as terrorists/cowardly etc. Not only that they get upset when someone won't respect the armed forces responsible. Derry suffered more than anywhere, the fact that McClean wasn't born as someone pointed out is irrelevant. By that logic those not alive during WW2 doesn't have the place to respect those who died. Derry is still suffering as a result of British rule as is the whole country in different ways. Every time someone criticises Mclean we seem to get the same pre scripted reply, he supports cowardly murderers etc which is of course nonsense and just repeating what those before have come out with. Are you really comparing the attempted Nazi invasion of Britain and the troubles? He is
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Post by banksisgod on Feb 17, 2021 20:06:21 GMT
Next January 30th is the fiftieth anniversary of "Bloody Sunday" (1972). Twenty five years later, Don Mullan released his exhaustively researched and definitive book on the events of that day, "Eyewitness Bloody Sunday". Don's book directly resulted in the setting up of the Bloody Sunday Tribunal. Later this year, my publishing imprint, "Red Stripe" (I'll give you three guesses where that came from!), will publish the revised and updated edition. For anyone who wants to know why James McClean and many others like him, think the way they think, and believe what they do, you could do a lot worse than read Don's book when it's available.
Incidentally, one of Don Mullan's previous books was about his own childhood growing up in Derry, and the influence Gordon Banks had on his life, and on the direction it took.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 20:10:01 GMT
This really is getting silly now. Sooner McClean goes and we can put all this behind us the better he shoud be able to play where he wants without stupid abuse because some can't think for themselves and follow the crowd repeating the same nonsense. Did you watch last night's game? He's shite, he isn't worth the hassle. Let's move on, you can follow him if you want
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 17, 2021 20:10:57 GMT
To be honest, I'm having a bit of trouble deciding whose version of the McClean National Anthem snub to believe. Dr Malcolm Clarke, respected public figure, former Lord Mayor of Newcastle and chair of the FSF or somebody who thinks the Saville Report was chaired by one of the world's most notorious sexual predators. Have you tried taking the time to read what his teammate said who happened to be present that day ?, maybe Dr Clarke was there as well or maybe he wasn't, the fact that you believe I thought The Saville report was chaired by Jimmy says more about you than me
Just seen who liked your post can you have a word he is goading me.
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 17, 2021 20:14:26 GMT
Are you really comparing the attempted Nazi invasion of Britain and the troubles? Am comparing someone defending their country from foreign invaders whoever they are. thought was obvious So who were the foreign invaders in Northern Ireland?
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 20:18:55 GMT
Taken from the Guardian 2000
A classified message of May 15, 1984, sent to the RUC, Northern Ireland Office and the British embassy in Dublin, read: "Speaking in confidence, a leading member of the Provisional IRA who no longer has access to the organisation commented that Martin McGuinness personally fired the shot (from a Thompson machine gun on 'single shot') from Rossville flats in Bogside that precipitated the Bloody Sunday episode."
Another document said: "At the time of Bloody Sunday 30 January 1972, McGuinness was a senior member if not OC (officer commanding) of Londonderry PIRA. Although we have no collateral for the above report (the Infliction claim) there is intelligence that McGuinness was actively involved in PIRA attacks in the city shortly after Bloody Sunday."
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 20:20:25 GMT
Am comparing someone defending their country from foreign invaders whoever they are. thought was obvious So who were the foreign invaders in Northern Ireland? Republicans from the ROI. ?
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Post by Veritas on Feb 17, 2021 20:44:36 GMT
Am comparing someone defending their country from foreign invaders whoever they are. thought was obvious So who were the foreign invaders in Northern Ireland? Are you being serious?
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Post by thevoid on Feb 17, 2021 20:49:20 GMT
So who were the foreign invaders in Northern Ireland? Republicans from the ROI. ? What a ridiculous post. Even by your standards that's a peach.
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 17, 2021 20:51:56 GMT
So who were the foreign invaders in Northern Ireland? Are you being serious? Absolutely, I’m not aware any foreign army has tried to invade Northern Ireland since the Nazi’s, please correct me if I’m wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 20:52:37 GMT
he shoud be able to play where he wants without stupid abuse because some can't think for themselves and follow the crowd repeating the same nonsense. Did you watch last night's game? He's shite, he isn't worth the hassle. Let's move on, you can follow him if you want 🛎🔚
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 20:56:31 GMT
Absolutely, I’m not aware any foreign army has tried to invade Northern Ireland since the Nazi’s, please correct me if I’m wrong.
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 17, 2021 21:08:59 GMT
Absolutely, I’m not aware any foreign army has tried to invade Northern Ireland since the Nazi’s, please correct me if I’m wrong. Am I missing something?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 21:12:54 GMT
was called the troubles. people put up with utter hell and families suffered terribly. but should have accepted it and praised the British apparently or they support terrorism.
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 17, 2021 21:17:47 GMT
was called the troubles. people put up with utter hell and families suffered terribly. but should have accepted it and praised the British apparently or they support terrorism. People on both sides suffered greatly, as is always the case with armed conflicts. I’m simply trying to figure out who this invading foreign army was.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 21:28:58 GMT
was called the troubles. people put up with utter hell and families suffered terribly. but should have accepted it and praised the British apparently or they support terrorism. People on both sides suffered greatly, as is always the case with armed conflicts. I’m simply trying to figure out who this invading foreign army was. This will be educating if anyone cares to answer that is
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 21:30:17 GMT
was called the troubles. people put up with utter hell and families suffered terribly. but should have accepted it and praised the British apparently or they support terrorism. People on both sides suffered greatly, as is always the case with armed conflicts. I’m simply trying to figure out who this invading foreign army was. We all know the British Army did not invade Ireland. There are some who will argue their presence was as a mere enforcer of the Unionist government. Others will argue peacemaker. It cant be argued you are missing the point though.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 21:41:30 GMT
was called the troubles. people put up with utter hell and families suffered terribly. but should have accepted it and praised the British apparently or they support terrorism. People on both sides suffered greatly, as is always the case with armed conflicts. I’m simply trying to figure out who this invading foreign army was. Oliver Cromwell invaded Ireland in 1649, the Nazi's didn't invade though many Republicans assisted them via espionage, NI became part of the British Union in 1921, not sure which foreign army invaded NI since then.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 21:46:40 GMT
People on both sides suffered greatly, as is always the case with armed conflicts. I’m simply trying to figure out who this invading foreign army was. We all know the British Army did not invade Ireland. There are some who will argue their presence was as a mere enforcer of the Unionist government. Others will argue peacemaker. It cant be argued you are missing the point though. From the Catholicregister :
British troops were first deployed in Northern Ireland in 1969 after the local authorities were unable to stop gangs of Protestants attacking Catholic civil rights demonstrators and the burning of Catholic property. At the time, the British government believed that the deployment would last for approximately six months.
Interestingly under the then Labour PM Harold Wilson.
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Post by daisydog on Feb 17, 2021 21:48:55 GMT
I posted about this a page or so ago. This is my first time posting for a while and sure enough the race to Moronsville has been completed in record time with crapslinger in the cretin cockpit. The level of debate is on the level of a small child just shouting "no !" with his fingers in his ears ( yes the Trumpian way ) while the grown ups are trying to reason with the toddler. I really shouldn't have engaged today as it just leaves you with that lingering feeling of mans stupidity/hatred to man and feeling a bit dirty. As I said earlier crapslinger is often the driver to the race to the bottom which begs the question, why bother to respond to someone who is blatantly trolling and knows nothing about what he's talking about, 24000 posts and nothing to say . Let's just ignore him and his little friends, let them get on with the hating, this club is much bigger and better than that.
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Post by chuckrocky on Feb 17, 2021 21:52:13 GMT
People on both sides suffered greatly, as is always the case with armed conflicts. I’m simply trying to figure out who this invading foreign army was. We all know the British Army did not invade Ireland. There are some who will argue their presence was as a mere enforcer of the Unionist government. Others will argue peacemaker. It cant be argued you are missing the point though. My point was simply that you can’t compare the Nazi invasion to the troubles.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 21:57:16 GMT
I posted about this a page or so ago. This is my first time posting for a while and sure enough the race to Moronsville has been completed in record time with crapslinger in the cretin cockpit. The level of debate is on the level of a small child just shouting "no !" with his fingers in his ears ( yes the Trumpian way ) while the grown ups are trying to reason with the toddler. I really shouldn't have engaged today as it just leaves you with that lingering feeling of mans stupidity/hatred to man and feeling a bit dirty. As I said earlier crapslinger is often the driver to the race to the bottom which begs the question, why bother to respond to someone who is blatantly trolling and knows nothing about what he's talking about, 24000 posts and nothing to say . Let's just ignore him and his little friends, let them get on with the hating, this club is much bigger and better than that. welcome back multi poster, not enjoying being schooled again how long will you last as this poster ?
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