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Post by gingerninja on Jul 12, 2020 19:52:30 GMT
Moving forward, if we stay up, I feel he could hold us back, no doubting his commitment, but I feel we need a more all round non one dimensional player.
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Post by werrington on Jul 12, 2020 19:54:35 GMT
He’s held us back alright ....but for him, Allen and Clucas we’d of been fucked this season
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Post by britvic72 on Jul 12, 2020 19:59:26 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 12, 2020 20:03:44 GMT
Whatever is wrong with stoke city it’s not james McLean anymore than it was Joe Allen
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 12, 2020 20:05:55 GMT
He's a good player to have in the squad, the battlers people keep saying we don't have well he's one of the few we do have.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 12, 2020 20:07:20 GMT
He’s held us back alright ....but for him, Allen and Clucas we’d of been fucked this season I agree about McClean and Clucas, without them we'd probably be down already, Clucas got a tough ride when he was clearly getting over an injury.
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Post by chad on Jul 12, 2020 20:09:32 GMT
There’s a lot more players holding us back before James
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Jul 12, 2020 20:10:58 GMT
Our problem is we don't have enough players with his commitment and drive.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 12, 2020 20:14:27 GMT
This is pure Bayernoatcake bait 🤣
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Post by bolders on Jul 12, 2020 20:18:31 GMT
He has been one of our better players I dont like his politics but i wont slag off his commitment for us and if not for him sometimes we wouldn't be within touching distance of being safe
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 20:19:59 GMT
Clucas our player of the season followed by McClean
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 12, 2020 20:35:00 GMT
I think McClean was terrible under both Rowett and Jones, but under O'Neill he again has found a vein of form. Despite of this I don't think he is up to the standard he showed before the lockdown, not enough end product in my opinion.
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Post by thehoof on Jul 12, 2020 20:39:33 GMT
I think McClean was terrible under both Rowett and Jones, but under O'Neill he again has found a vein of form. Despite of this I don't think he is up to the standard he showed before the lockdown, not enough end product in my opinion. Rob, There has been far more end product from McLean, than from the guy who plays on the other wing. If we can get rid of one of the wingers, then it’s time for player X to move on to his 11th club.
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Post by potter25 on Jul 12, 2020 20:44:21 GMT
I think McClean was terrible under both Rowett and Jones, but under O'Neill he again has found a vein of form. Despite of this I don't think he is up to the standard he showed before the lockdown, not enough end product in my opinion. Jones decided he was a full back?
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Jul 12, 2020 20:45:26 GMT
I think McClean was terrible under both Rowett and Jones, but under O'Neill he again has found a vein of form. Despite of this I don't think he is up to the standard he showed before the lockdown, not enough end product in my opinion. Jones decided he was a full back? Irish reberto Carlos mate I don’t see your problem 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 20:47:31 GMT
McClean is possibly our best player, he's the exact type of player we don't have enough of. Gives everything.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 12, 2020 20:51:55 GMT
I think McClean was terrible under both Rowett and Jones, but under O'Neill he again has found a vein of form. Despite of this I don't think he is up to the standard he showed before the lockdown, not enough end product in my opinion. Jones decided he was a full back? This was not a comparison, just a statement that he isn't back to his best yet.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 12, 2020 20:55:33 GMT
If you play in the front 3, you've got to be getting double figures for goals and/or assists and McClean will never be that player.
Still, he works 'aaard and is the kind of player we need right now for this situation I guess.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 12, 2020 21:00:55 GMT
I would have him as the 3rd winger in the squad.
I’d move Tom Ince on first, by a RW that can also play on the left and use Verlinden on the left.
Mcclean would be useful to bring on and close games out or putting him at lb/lwb enabling us to be more aggressive in the full back position if needed.
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Post by lancer on Jul 12, 2020 21:01:58 GMT
With a team as fragile as we have, we need more like Mclean, not get rid of him. He's your honest grafter, the work horse every team needs when fight is all you have left.He's one of a long line of Irish lads we've depended on in the past, and well worth hanging on to.He not an exciting wizard of dribble, he hasn't got pace, but he's got heart and keeps on him. Got a lot of time for him in a Stoke shirt.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 12, 2020 21:11:03 GMT
If you play in the front 3, you've got to be getting double figures for goals and/or assists and McClean will never be that player. Still, he works 'aaard and is the kind of player we need right now for this situation I guess. He's managed 6 goals and 5 assists this season, while missing 10 games and playing out of position and in a very poor team for a fair proportion of the rest of it. If you combine goals and assists per minutes played, McClean has a better record than Clucas this season. As part of a good team next season, he has every chance of reaching double figures for goals and/or assists.
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Post by thanksjon on Jul 12, 2020 21:17:09 GMT
If James is holding us back I dont know a word for what Tom Ince is doing.
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Post by greenhoff on Jul 12, 2020 21:20:12 GMT
McClean is possibly our best player, he's the exact type of player we don't have enough of. Gives everything. He does, no doubt about it. However he's a poor footballer. I like him, full of commitment but devoid of quality.
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Post by datguy on Jul 12, 2020 21:32:25 GMT
Not a single time have I doubted James McClean's commitment this season.
Bare in mind he started the season at LB and essentially thrown under the bus by Mad Nath in an attempt to cover up just how bad a signing Ward was.
Scored some absolutely crucial goals as well.
Not player of the season. That award goes to Clucas. But he's up there.
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 12, 2020 21:39:29 GMT
Moving forward, if we stay up, I feel he could hold us back, no doubting his commitment, but I feel we need a more all round non one dimensional player. Absolute fucking ungrateful bollox. James McClean is one of the players who gives 100% for this club every time he plays, and that’s an absolute prerequisite if we want to first of all stop embarrassing ourselves against the likes of Wigan and start to be competitive. The last time we were competitive in the Championship we had a team full of James McCleans! BM
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 12, 2020 21:55:03 GMT
I like McClean his attitude is excellent just wish he had better quality in his crossing
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 12, 2020 22:12:27 GMT
The fact that there are far shitter players in the squad does not mean that McClean is any good, it just means he's less shit.
There are other players whose replacement you may prioritise, but we certainly need a McClean upgrade too if we have aspirations of anything above lower-mid-table Championship.
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Post by scfcrmagic on Jul 12, 2020 22:23:41 GMT
Macca is one of our better players ...don’t understand why he deserves any criticism, he works aard, gets stuck in, not frightened to take players on..and puts plenty of crosses in..gets back to help defend ...I think he’s exactly the sort of player we need to get out of this division...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 12, 2020 22:31:14 GMT
An awful footballer as evidenced today.
This notion that he’s saved is this season is odd too. He’s been gash bar 4/5 games.
Hard worker obviously but whenever quality is needed he failed.
Awful at crossing, even worse at finishing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 12, 2020 22:32:15 GMT
Moving forward, if we stay up, I feel he could hold us back, no doubting his commitment, but I feel we need a more all round non one dimensional player. Absolute fucking ungrateful bollox. James McClean is one of the players who gives 100% for this club every time he plays, and that’s an absolute prerequisite if we want to first of all stop embarrassing ourselves against the likes of Wigan and start to be competitive. The last time we were competitive in the Championship we had a team full of James McCleans! BM That’s an absolute insult to most of that team.
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