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Post by gingerninja on May 20, 2020 14:56:54 GMT
Let me start by saying I think we have got an absolute gem. Does anybody know who else we would or might have got?. A lot say Neil Harris was interviewed & possibly Nigel Adkins?. Any ideas?.
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Post by flea79 on May 20, 2020 16:27:58 GMT
Let me start by saying I think we have got an absolute gem. Does anybody know who else we would or might have got?. A lot say Neil Harris was interviewed & possibly Nigel Adkins?. Any ideas?. adkins would have been as bad as the Lambert appointment
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Post by lordb on May 20, 2020 16:35:11 GMT
Let me start by saying I think we have got an absolute gem. Does anybody know who else we would or might have got?. A lot say Neil Harris was interviewed & possibly Nigel Adkins?. Any ideas?. adkins would have been as bad as the Lambert appointment Maybe however he has a better record than Lambert Thankfully we have Michael O'Neill
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Post by elystokie on May 20, 2020 16:36:10 GMT
Based on absolutely nothing whatsoever my 10p would've gone on Pearson.
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Post by fulagoals on May 20, 2020 16:36:33 GMT
I said it then and stick by it now. We should have gone for Alan Pardew with Phil Brown and Tim Sherwood making up his coaching team.
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Post by lordb on May 20, 2020 16:46:32 GMT
I said it then and stick by it now. We should have gone for Alan Pardew with Phil Brown and Tim Sherwood making up his coaching team. Would that be the most egotistical management team ever? They would be fighting over the tanning salon Phil would win that one mind...
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Post by stokebloke on May 20, 2020 16:50:55 GMT
If it hadn't been oneill we would be down already.
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Post by chigstoke on May 20, 2020 16:54:53 GMT
Let me start by saying I think we have got an absolute gem. Does anybody know who else we would or might have got?. A lot say Neil Harris was interviewed & possibly Nigel Adkins?. Any ideas?. Adkins, Pearson, Rooster/Delap, Pardew. Anyone out them would be my guess at getting the job.
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Post by wrighter on May 20, 2020 17:27:04 GMT
V happy with MON Pearson would"ve been good imho
Adkins fucking hates Stoke, would never have come, thankfully
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 20, 2020 17:46:53 GMT
Pearson wouldn't have touched us would he?
MON was about the best we could do. And I don't mean that derogatorily either. I was surprised he would touch us tbh.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 20, 2020 18:53:07 GMT
Given our track record over the last 2 years I'm gobbed smacked we got anyone who wasn't past it, desperate or hopeless - or all three. In the circumstances to get someone as good as MON was a miracle. And yet there were some on here wanting him gone after half a dozen games presumably because he hadn't got us in a play off place,
And just to put a chill down most right minded people's spine - in answer to the OP - Tony Pulis.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 20, 2020 19:40:32 GMT
I think we were very lucky with our appointment of O'Neill! After Lambert, Rowett and the biggest Moron, we finally stumbled into a gem!
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 20, 2020 20:28:58 GMT
Alex Neil was our first choice and for a short while we thought we'd got him in the bag, we only turned to O'Neill once Neil finally said no on the Tuesday.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 20, 2020 20:31:18 GMT
It would have been Pulis, he was very close to getting the job, if Coates Snr had got his way he'd have been here. MON was Coates Jnr choice and he got his way. Pulis was probably the only other manager (who was willing to come to Stoke) that would have kept us up. Gouranga.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 20:32:31 GMT
O'Neill still has to prove himself - which I think he could do. But the fact is the season as we know it ends with us being a mere 3 pts above relegation. Jones gets the blame for our very poor season, but we suffered some bad results under O'Neill too. We won't know how good he is until the next season as we know it gets under way. I think just about any manager could have improved on Jones. Pardew specialises in that sort of thing (then later makes himself untolerable), but it's hard to think of an established manager who wouldn't have done much better than our clown. So as I say, O*Neill still has to prove himself next season.
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Post by swampmongrel on May 20, 2020 21:03:11 GMT
O'Neill still has to prove himself - which I think he could do. But the fact is the season as we know it ends with us being a mere 3 pts above relegation. Harsh. I think. We were becoming cut adrift before he arrived.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 20, 2020 21:11:29 GMT
O'Neill still has to prove himself - which I think he could do. But the fact is the season as we know it ends with us being a mere 3 pts above relegation. Jones gets the blame for our very poor season, but we suffered some bad results under O'Neill too. We won't know how good he is until the next season as we know it gets under way. I think just about any manager could have improved on Jones. Pardew specialises in that sort of thing (then later makes himself untolerable), but it's hard to think of an established manager who wouldn't have done much better than our clown. So as I say, O*Neill still has to prove himself next season. So how many games has he got next season?
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Post by Pugsley on May 20, 2020 21:37:10 GMT
O'Neill still has to prove himself - which I think he could do. But the fact is the season as we know it ends with us being a mere 3 pts above relegation. Jones gets the blame for our very poor season, but we suffered some bad results under O'Neill too. We won't know how good he is until the next season as we know it gets under way. I think just about any manager could have improved on Jones. Pardew specialises in that sort of thing (then later makes himself untolerable), but it's hard to think of an established manager who wouldn't have done much better than our clown. So as I say, O*Neill still has to prove himself next season. There are very few managers that don't have to prove themselves season after season.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 21:39:55 GMT
O'Neill still has to prove himself - which I think he could do. But the fact is the season as we know it ends with us being a mere 3 pts above relegation. Jones gets the blame for our very poor season, but we suffered some bad results under O'Neill too. We won't know how good he is until the next season as we know it gets under way. I think just about any manager could have improved on Jones. Pardew specialises in that sort of thing (then later makes himself untolerable), but it's hard to think of an established manager who wouldn't have done much better than our clown. So as I say, O*Neill still has to prove himself next season. You were doing so well until you mentioned Pardew.
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Post by lordb on May 20, 2020 21:59:52 GMT
O'Neill still has to prove himself - which I think he could do. But the fact is the season as we know it ends with us being a mere 3 pts above relegation. Jones gets the blame for our very poor season, but we suffered some bad results under O'Neill too. We won't know how good he is until the next season as we know it gets under way. I think just about any manager could have improved on Jones. Pardew specialises in that sort of thing (then later makes himself untolerable), but it's hard to think of an established manager who wouldn't have done much better than our clown. So as I say, O*Neill still has to prove himself next season. So how many games has he got next season? He's absolutely won me over
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Post by bmstoke on May 20, 2020 22:12:17 GMT
If it had been Pardew it would have been my last match.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 22:37:56 GMT
I wouldn't have minded Mick McCarthy in a similar deal with O'Neill, he stayed with ROI until after the Euro campaign and until Stephen Kenny took over which was already in place. At least our press conferences would never be dull.
Think we've landed a gem in O'Neill
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Post by spitthedog on May 20, 2020 22:46:31 GMT
He's been fantastic really the only glitch so far being his negative approach to the final 15-20 minutes of games, often totally unneeded e.g. Luton where we were in command of the game until he decided to throw on defenders, an open invitation into our penalty area for the first time in the game. Still get annoyed thinking about that!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on May 21, 2020 5:07:22 GMT
O'Neill still has to prove himself - which I think he could do. But the fact is the season as we know it ends with us being a mere 3 pts above relegation. Jones gets the blame for our very poor season, but we suffered some bad results under O'Neill too. We won't know how good he is until the next season as we know it gets under way. I think just about any manager could have improved on Jones. Pardew specialises in that sort of thing (then later makes himself untolerable), but it's hard to think of an established manager who wouldn't have done much better than our clown. So as I say, O*Neill still has to prove himself next season. So how many games has he got next season? If we're not top, on 30 points, after 10 games, fuck him off! Edit: pissing tinpot league!
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Post by lordb on May 21, 2020 7:14:41 GMT
He's been fantastic really the only glitch so far being his negative approach to the final 15-20 minutes of games, often totally unneeded e.g. Luton where we were in command of the game until he decided to throw on defenders, an open invitation into our penalty area for the first time in the game. Still get annoyed thinking about that! Blackburn,Wigan and Sheffield Weds at home we ended each game playing 424 Cost us v Blackburn but won the other two Luton away he was too negative I think get a horse's for courses manager, doesn't have a default setting like Pulis or Boskamp
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Post by wakeypotter on May 21, 2020 7:22:57 GMT
Let me start by saying I think we have got an absolute gem. Does anybody know who else we would or might have got?. A lot say Neil Harris was interviewed & possibly Nigel Adkins?. Any ideas?. adkins would have been as bad as the Lambert appointment Yeh some people on here very harsh on lambert. We only got relegated under him through very bad luck. With the shit he had to work with personally I think he did ok. He didn’t want Charlie to miss a penalty n then the follow up or Butland throwing one in his own net or a last minute equaliser from West Ham. If you all lambert haters work that out we would have stayed up
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Post by flea79 on May 21, 2020 7:26:37 GMT
adkins would have been as bad as the Lambert appointment Yeh some people on here very harsh on lambert. We only got relegated under him through very bad luck. With the shit he had to work with personally I think he did ok. He didn’t want Charlie to miss a penalty n then the follow up or Butland throwing one in his own net or a last minute equaliser from West Ham. If you all lambert haters work that out we would have stayed up Nah didn’t rate him then don’t rate him now, even our own board didn’t rate him and fucked him off as soon as the season was over!
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 21, 2020 7:27:42 GMT
So how many games has he got next season? He's absolutely won me over Same here. What worries me most are the supporters who still think we have some god given right to promotion and any manager who doesn't live up to those over inflated expectations is by definition a failure and dead meat. The reality is we are currently a poor Championship side still having to shift a bunch of over paid wastrels with the spectre of FFP looking over our shoulder. Any manager who gets us promoted under these circumstances is a miracle worker - not someone just idling by while the mighty Stoke City majestically float to the top of the league on a cushion of deluded self worth. O'Neil deserves massive credit for what he's done so far - we were dead and buried when he took over and he's turned us into an effective unit in no time. A top half finish next season looks on the cards and a playoff spot may even be a possibility. But if we don't get promoted next the last thing we should be doing is pointing a finger at O'Neil and looking back into the cesspit of "realistic" alternatives. We got really lucky last time - gift horse and mouth come to mind.
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Post by wakeypotter on May 21, 2020 7:42:28 GMT
Yeh some people on here very harsh on lambert. We only got relegated under him through very bad luck. With the shit he had to work with personally I think he did ok. He didn’t want Charlie to miss a penalty n then the follow up or Butland throwing one in his own net or a last minute equaliser from West Ham. If you all lambert haters work that out we would have stayed up Nah didn’t rate him then don’t rate him now, even our own board didn’t rate him and fucked him off as soon as the season was over! I’m not saying I wanted him in charge after Hughes or the following season quite the opposite really I was so disappointed when he took over but all I’m saying is it wasn’t his fault we got relegated he did ok
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 21, 2020 8:34:48 GMT
Alex Neil was our first choice and for a short while we thought we'd got him in the bag, we only turned to O'Neill once Neil finally said no on the Tuesday. I'm glad he did turn us down tbh. There'd have been a big expectation with him and I'm not sure he'd have done the job needed. There was lots of suspicion surrounding MON and his time in club football etc. I liked that because it totally underestimated him.
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