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Post by supersimonstainrod on Apr 6, 2020 19:55:16 GMT
I always have a shit north of the border Dumpfries?
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Post by soswalker1 on Apr 6, 2020 20:11:33 GMT
In times gone by most top clubs had a lot of players from Scotland Wales and Ireland made up the backbone of there teams
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Post by newsteadst3 on Apr 6, 2020 20:35:42 GMT
Lisbon Lions weren't to bad neither, and most of that side got to the European Cup final in 1970 I think? Having beat Leeds in semi final.
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Post by bolders on Apr 6, 2020 20:38:07 GMT
In times gone by most top clubs had a lot of players from Scotland Wales and Ireland made up the backbone of there teams yes because they weren't allowed a lot of foreign players in the team, unless they had lived in the UK for 2 years
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 6, 2020 21:14:35 GMT
Jimmy Robertson! Joe Jordan That twat who played for Spurs! Richard Keyes mate. Fat bloke on TalksSport. We've not had much joy with Scottish players. Other than Robertson can't think of any! Charlie Adam wasn't to bad!
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Post by liathroid on Apr 6, 2020 22:12:17 GMT
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Post by potterpaul on Apr 7, 2020 2:14:20 GMT
I may be missing something obvious but who was Galbraith? I've not heard of him either ? This is where I expect input from Gods
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 7, 2020 2:44:37 GMT
Jimmy Robertson! Joe Jordan That twat who played for Spurs! Richard Keyes mate. Fat bloke on TalksSport. We've not had much joy with Scottish players. Other than Robertson can't think of any! Charlie Adam wasn't to bad! It's either short term memory loss or living in the past, both worrying signs!
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Post by Gods on Apr 7, 2020 7:04:12 GMT
I've not heard of him either ? This is where I expect input from GodsI now this one since I studied economics, Harvard Professor, John Kenneth Galbraith, wrote Economics and the Public Purpose back in the 70's, championed a new socialism and public ownership of things like health, a man whose time has come some would argue!
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 7, 2020 7:51:08 GMT
This is where I expect input from GodsI now this one since I studied economics, Harvard Professor, John Kenneth Galbraith, wrote Economics and the Public Purpose back in the 70's, championed a new socialism and public ownership of things like health, a man whose time has come some would argue! I'm all in favour of that, as I think it's unfair that your wallet should decide if you are to get good help when you become ill. Isn't this the system you have in Britain? I thought you had one of the best systems in the world for the inhabitants of your country, very similar to the one we have here in Norway?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 7, 2020 8:29:17 GMT
I now this one since I studied economics, Harvard Professor, John Kenneth Galbraith, wrote Economics and the Public Purpose back in the 70's, championed a new socialism and public ownership of things like health, a man whose time has come some would argue! I'm all in favour of that, as I think it's unfair that your wallet should decide if you are to get good help when you become ill. Isn't this the system you have in Britain? I thought you had one of the best systems in the world for the inhabitants of your country, very similar to the one we have here in Norway? We sold everything off bar healtchcare really. Pretty much everything else is run by a French, German or Dutch company.
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Post by werrington on Apr 7, 2020 8:51:28 GMT
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 7, 2020 8:59:45 GMT
Not a single mention for our Division 2 promotion winning captain, Peter Handyside.
Very disappointing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 9:04:07 GMT
David Kevan
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 7, 2020 9:16:36 GMT
I'm all in favour of that, as I think it's unfair that your wallet should decide if you are to get good help when you become ill. Isn't this the system you have in Britain? I thought you had one of the best systems in the world for the inhabitants of your country, very similar to the one we have here in Norway? We sold everything off bar healtchcare really. Pretty much everything else is run by a French, German or Dutch company. Does that mean that your hospitals are publically run?
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Post by fca47 on Apr 7, 2020 9:25:42 GMT
We sold everything off bar healtchcare really. Pretty much everything else is run by a French, German or Dutch company. Does that mean that your hospitals are publically run? Yes but very expensively financed. Instead of the government paying for them , they were privately financed.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 7, 2020 9:27:29 GMT
We sold everything off bar healtchcare really. Pretty much everything else is run by a French, German or Dutch company. Does that mean that your hospitals are publically run? On the whole yes. But trains, gas, electricity, water etc aren't. Which imo is wrong. There are a few train companies that are and I think more will go down that route after all of this. But not through the want of the government more through necessity.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 7, 2020 9:38:53 GMT
Does that mean that your hospitals are publically run? Yes but very expensively financed. Instead of the government paying for them , they were privately financed. I really like health and schools to be public, most other things aren't that important, but those two are really important to everybody. To know that you will get treatment when you get ill, even if you don't have much money, should be a basic service for all countries if possible. Unfortunately there are countries so poor, that this will be impossible. I also want public schools, to ensure everybody gets an equal chance to qualify for the best education, or top jobs in the society. We all need health care during our lives, or at least the security to know it's there for you when needed, and we all need education to a certain extent. Something I really dislike is religious schools! Why do we really have them, to divide people? I think kids form the same community need to go to the same school, to get to know each other, and to stop the fear of the unknown. It's also about getting the same possibilities for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 9:46:51 GMT
Not a single mention for our Division 2 promotion winning captain, Peter Handyside. Very disappointing. A very underrated player for me at the time.
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Post by Gods on Apr 7, 2020 9:59:09 GMT
I now this one since I studied economics, Harvard Professor, John Kenneth Galbraith, wrote Economics and the Public Purpose back in the 70's, championed a new socialism and public ownership of things like health, a man whose time has come some would argue! I'm all in favour of that, as I think it's unfair that your wallet should decide if you are to get good help when you become ill. Isn't this the system you have in Britain? I thought you had one of the best systems in the world for the inhabitants of your country, very similar to the one we have here in Norway? That's pretty much the case although more and more privatisation has crept in or public / private partnership at least.
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Post by newsteadst3 on Apr 7, 2020 10:03:02 GMT
Not a single mention for our Division 2 promotion winning captain, Peter Handyside. Very disappointing. A very underrated player for me at the time. Yeah I liked him too, last seen delivery driving
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Post by chuckrocky on Apr 7, 2020 10:23:53 GMT
Not a single mention for our Division 2 promotion winning captain, Peter Handyside. Very disappointing. A very underrated player for me at the time. Shtaniuk being the colossus he was meant Handyside went under the radar a bit. He was very reliable and rarely let us down.
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Post by noustie on Apr 7, 2020 10:57:46 GMT
Aberdeen's Cup Winners Cup win in 83 was all Scottish players beating Bayern Munich in the quarters and Real Madrid in the final. Dundee United lost in the final of UEFA cup to Sven's Gothenburg side after beating Barca over two legs in the quarters.
There's a few reasons for the downfall of Scottish football but between 80-90 Aberdeen won the league three times, Dundee United once and Hearts lost on season on goal difference. There was only one season where the OF finished first and second and no season where the best diddy was more than 9 points behind at the end.
The 20 years or so up to Rangers bankruptcy the OF were one and two every season and the nearest diddy were 10-30 points adrift apart from one season Hearts were financially juiced. When gates stopped being split, tv money geared to top 2 positions and the OF bigger fan-base anyway the competition became pointless. Diddy teams bought cheap foreigners to keep up and the OF bought dear foreigners in their own mini-league so there was almost a decade of no talent at all coming through.
As teams started needing to cut their clothes youth sides went out the window and facilities were a joke. It's only in the last few years this has began to improve again. A lot of SPL sides are now blooding youngsters and re-investing the money so there are a few youngsters who're semi-decent coming through.
The secret for me though is getting them early as if they're left in the SPL too long they seem to stagnate. Souttar's older brother isn't as good now as he was at 17 and Scott McKenna has gone backwards massively.
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Post by noustie on Apr 7, 2020 12:09:30 GMT
Jason Scotland moved from St Johnstone to Swansea for £25k too in 2007.
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Post by newsteadst3 on Apr 7, 2020 12:50:34 GMT
Aberdeen's Cup Winners Cup win in 83 was all Scottish players beating Bayern Munich in the quarters and Real Madrid in the final. Dundee United lost in the final of UEFA cup to Sven's Gothenburg side after beating Barca over two legs in the quarters. There's a few reasons for the downfall of Scottish football but between 80-90 Aberdeen won the league three times, Dundee United once and Hearts lost on season on goal difference. There was only one season where the OF finished first and second and no season where the best diddy was more than 9 points behind at the end. The 20 years or so up to Rangers bankruptcy the OF were one and two every season and the nearest diddy were 10-30 points adrift apart from one season Hearts were financially juiced. When gates stopped being split, tv money geared to top 2 positions and the OF bigger fan-base anyway the competition became pointless. Diddy teams bought cheap foreigners to keep up and the OF bought dear foreigners in their own mini-league so there was almost a decade of no talent at all coming through. As teams started needing to cut their clothes youth sides went out the window and facilities were a joke. It's only in the last few years this has began to improve again. A lot of SPL sides are now blooding youngsters and re-investing the money so there are a few youngsters who're semi-decent coming through. The secret for me though is getting them early as if they're left in the SPL too long they seem to stagnate. Souttar's older brother isn't as good now as he was at 17 and Scott McKenna has gone backwards massively. Good Post, James Forrest stopped improving up there til BR took over at Celtic, Barry Ferguson came down to Premier League too late also Aiden Mcgeady, born in Scotland, needed to leave Celtic earlier. Stay there too long and you don't improve might be why Gilmour got out
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Post by Northy on Apr 7, 2020 13:30:46 GMT
Jason Scotland moved from St Johnstone to Swansea for £25k too in 2007. I'm sure we were hoping to get him and disappointed not to get him ?
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 7, 2020 16:51:30 GMT
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Post by march4 on Apr 7, 2020 17:09:10 GMT
The quality of football is really poor.
Having said that, the odd gem will remain just as they do in the English 4th Division.
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Post by lordb on Apr 7, 2020 17:34:20 GMT
Sounds like what we are looking for
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Post by liathroid on Apr 7, 2020 18:25:12 GMT
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