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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 29, 2020 17:31:41 GMT
He looked shaky the whole game, but that was not the reason why we dropped two points!
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Feb 29, 2020 17:32:25 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 29, 2020 17:32:25 GMT
So today he was a huge factor in the late goal?is that what you’re saying? Today he was a fucking embarrassment and his nervousness rubs off on the rest of the team. And he let a penalty in without trying. That’s all we’re saying. Of course it does and it’s all his fault🙄🙄
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 29, 2020 17:32:30 GMT
It’s all Butland’s fault again I see🙄 You need to stop defending him. It’s odd. The bloke is the biggest reason on the pitch as to why we are where we are this season. You can tell the defence don’t trust him and that just makes a shaky defence even worse.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:33:41 GMT
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Post by zerps on Feb 29, 2020 17:33:41 GMT
Today he was a fucking embarrassment and his nervousness rubs off on the rest of the team. And he let a penalty in without trying. That’s all we’re saying. Of course it does and it’s all his fault🙄🙄 He’s wank. Bye.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 17:33:42 GMT
Ultimately he’s our best keeper.
He’s in the team until May it’s as simple as that....
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 29, 2020 17:34:24 GMT
He's a huge factor. Not the sole reason. So today he was a huge factor in the late goal?is that what you’re saying? We were coasting when Firstly he spilled a shot to there forward who buried it but was called offside. He then dropped an easy cross causing panic amongst the deffence Till then they hadnt laid a glove on us. After the 2 pieces of play above we began to panic and they began to be offered some encouragement. In relation to the pen. I know theyre difficult to save but he made it very easy for the taker by diving too early.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:34:32 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 29, 2020 17:34:32 GMT
He's 6ft6 yet instead of making the goals look small he makes them look massive. I'll never get why he stands at the side of the goals having a drink whilst the taker is stood there looking at an empty net. No kidology, no distraction, nothing. I think it's got to the point where HE believes that the striker is going to score whatever he does Dave. I've defended him several times over but everything he did today he did wrong. He's shot to pieces. We need to be rid of him and him rid of us at the first possible opportunity.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:34:52 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 29, 2020 17:34:52 GMT
It’s all Butland’s fault again I see🙄 You need to stop defending him. It’s odd. The bloke is the biggest reason on the pitch as to why we are where we are this season. You can tell the defence don’t trust him and that just makes a shaky defence even worse. Here we go the chief has arrived. Yes 1 goal in 3 games it’s all his fault.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:36:30 GMT
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 29, 2020 17:36:30 GMT
So today he was a huge factor in the late goal?is that what you’re saying? We were coasting when Firstly he spilled a shot to there forward who buried it but was called offside. He then dropped an easy cross causing panic amongst the deffence Till then they hadnt laid a glove on us. After the 2 pieces of play above we began to panic and they began to be offered some encouragement. In relation to the pen. I know theyre difficult to save but he made it very easy for the taker by diving too early. His flapping definitely gave them a lift and caused us to panic.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:36:33 GMT
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Post by bagnallboothen on Feb 29, 2020 17:36:33 GMT
Come on mate be fair, he's conceded 1 goal in 3 games. It's clearly his fault 👍 Its embarrassing now mate Some of the comments on this thread are a disgrace. He's had a tough time of it, like every other player that's been at the club for the last 4 year's. The time for who we should keep and who we should move on really should be in 10 games time. You never know a bit of positive support might just get us over the line.
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Post by foxysgloves on Feb 29, 2020 17:37:17 GMT
I’d love to know what happened to him.
He seems really vulnerable and easily got at.
I’m genuinely gutted. For him and us. He’s a decent bloke and potentially a top class keeper.
He just seems an enigma and there’s obviously a big problem that’s holding him back.
And it’s having a massive impact on us. Genuinely gutting.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:37:17 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 29, 2020 17:37:17 GMT
So today he was a huge factor in the late goal?is that what you’re saying? We were coasting when Firstly he spilled a shot to there forward who buried it but was called offside. He then dropped an easy cross causing panic amongst the deffence Till then they hadnt laid a glove on us. After the 2 pieces of play above we began to panic and they began to be offered some encouragement. In relation to the pen. I know theyre difficult to save but he made it very easy for the taker by diving too early. We didn’t concede a penalty because if Butland though did we?Yes he’s got a wank penalty record I’ll give you that but to lay the blame at his door is just wrong
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 29, 2020 17:37:27 GMT
So today he was a huge factor in the late goal?is that what you’re saying? Come on mate be fair, he's conceded 1 goal in 3 games. It's clearly his fault 👍 I'd be interested to know in the previous 3 matches how many genuine shots there've been on goal but I bet there's not been many. He's got out of jail with 2 really bad spills today and v Blackburn that resulted in dissalowed goals.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:38:38 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 29, 2020 17:38:38 GMT
Its embarrassing now mate Some of the comments on this thread are a disgrace. He's had a tough time of it, like every other player that's been at the club for the last 4 year's. The time for who we should keep and who we should move on really should in 10 games time. You never know a bit of positive support might just get us over the line. Positive support from some of the wankers on this thread mate not a chance
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 29, 2020 17:38:54 GMT
Was able to have a close look at him today like you can't at many stadiums. He is shot. Confidence non existent and all but gone as a top keeper. It gives me no pleasure to say it because he seems a decent fella but we need a new keeper.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:39:25 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 29, 2020 17:39:25 GMT
You need to stop defending him. It’s odd. The bloke is the biggest reason on the pitch as to why we are where we are this season. You can tell the defence don’t trust him and that just makes a shaky defence even worse. Here we go the chief has arrived. Yes 1 goal in 3 games it’s all his fault. Wow. Open your eyes and take the blinkers off. The two fumbles this week show he’s not got a clue. He’s absolutely shot to shit as they are stuff I’d genuinely expect me to hold. Why are you so defensive of him? We’re into double digits with the points he alone has dropped this season. He’s a liability and should never play for us again. Why he’s still here now is anyone’s guess. And no I didn’t expect anyone to sign him, a loan to a foreign league or another Champo club should have happened though.
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Post by onionman on Feb 29, 2020 17:39:33 GMT
Just because his awful blunders didn’t lead directly to goals, it doesn’t mean he isn’t a major reason why we are so fragile defensively.
He instils utter panic into the side and is the exact opposite of what you need from a keeper in a tense match.
And frankly his behaviour on penalties is strange. He mopes around like a teenager working in a fast foot restaurant who has been told he’s got to mop the floor and doesn’t want to do it.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:39:42 GMT
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Post by zerps on Feb 29, 2020 17:39:42 GMT
Its embarrassing now mate Some of the comments on this thread are a disgrace. He's had a tough time of it, like every other player that's been at the club for the last 4 year's. The time for who we should keep and who we should move on really should be in 10 games time. You never know a bit of positive support might just get us over the line. Firstly hahahaha. Secondly, he’s cost us at least ten goals that were virtually own goals he’s that bad. He’s got off lightly so far.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:39:55 GMT
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Post by bagnallboothen on Feb 29, 2020 17:39:55 GMT
Come on mate be fair, he's conceded 1 goal in 3 games. It's clearly his fault 👍 I'd be interested to know in the previous 3 matches how many genuine shots there've been on goal but I bet there's not been many. He's got out of jail with 2 really bad spills today and v Blackburn that resulted in dissalowed goals. He can't win can he. He's at fault when the opposition shoot and he's at fault when they don't? Federici clearly isn't in the managers plans. Davies has played 1 game All season and dropped an absolute clanger. Would you honestly put him in goal for the final 10 games?
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Feb 29, 2020 17:40:28 GMT
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Post by zerps on Feb 29, 2020 17:40:28 GMT
Just because his awful blunders didn’t lead directly to goals, it doesn’t mean he isn’t a major reason why we are so fragile defensively. He instils utter panic into the side and is the exact opposite of what you need from a keeper in a tense match. And frankly his behaviour on penalties is strange. He mopes around like a teenager working in a fast foot restaurant who has been told he’s got to mop the floor and doesn’t want to do it. He makes the fans and players nervous as fuck.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:41:06 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 29, 2020 17:41:06 GMT
Here we go the chief has arrived. Yes 1 goal in 3 games it’s all his fault. Wow. Open your eyes and take the blinkers off. The two fumbles this week show he’s not got a clue. He’s absolutely shot to shit as they are stuff I’d genuinely expect me to hold. Why are you so defensive of him? We’re into double digits with the points he alone has dropped this season. He’s a liability and should never play for us again. Why he’s still here now is anyone’s guess. And no I didn’t expect anyone to sign him, a loan to a foreign league or another Champo club should have happened though. He’s the best goalkeeper at the club and that’s why the manager picks him week in week out
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Feb 29, 2020 17:42:21 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 29, 2020 17:42:21 GMT
Wow. Open your eyes and take the blinkers off. The two fumbles this week show he’s not got a clue. He’s absolutely shot to shit as they are stuff I’d genuinely expect me to hold. Why are you so defensive of him? We’re into double digits with the points he alone has dropped this season. He’s a liability and should never play for us again. Why he’s still here now is anyone’s guess. And no I didn’t expect anyone to sign him, a loan to a foreign league or another Champo club should have happened though. He’s the best goalkeeper at the club and that’s why the manager picks him week in week out He’s not. Federici is. And yes he’s shite too but he’s less shite than Butland. Easily. The manager plays for him for God and only knows why. It’s odd.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:44:14 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 29, 2020 17:44:14 GMT
He’s the best goalkeeper at the club and that’s why the manager picks him week in week out He’s not. Federici is. And yes he’s shite too but he’s less shite than Butland. Easily. The manager plays for him for God and only knows why. It’s odd. Thankfully you’re fuck all to do with picking the team
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 17:44:22 GMT
Was able to have a close look at him today like you can't at many stadiums. He is shot. Confidence non existent and all but gone as a top keeper. It gives me no pleasure to say it because he seems decent fella but we need a new keeper. I remember listening to a Radio 5 live program on recruitment, many years ago. Not long after we got into the PL. TP was interviewed amongst others. One bloke on there was an ex Sheffield Wednesday scout who mentioned Jack Butland (think the scout's second name was Lee) when he was out at Cheltenham on loan as a youngster. He mentioned that one particular game he made a huge mistake and spent the rest of that half kicking the floor and chewing his gloves, which according to him is a sure sign for any scout worth his salt that the player is a naturally nervous player who struggles mentally with pressure. At the time I thought the scout was being harsh as Butland was only a really young lad at the time, but who knows, maybe it is rearing it's head again inside Jack. He was awful in the PL when under this type of pressure. He does absolutely nothing of note regularly that inspires confidence in me. Really frustrating as the last home game he was superb.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 29, 2020 17:47:17 GMT
He has been way to long at the club now. We need to get rid at the first opportunity.
He's a 6 foot 5 pussy. That cross he dropped today was because he was just bullied out of it by the Luton player.
He should be dominating those balls into the box but he genuinely looks scared.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:50:10 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 29, 2020 17:50:10 GMT
I'd be interested to know in the previous 3 matches how many genuine shots there've been on goal but I bet there's not been many. He's got out of jail with 2 really bad spills today and v Blackburn that resulted in dissalowed goals. He can't win can he. He's at fault when the opposition shoot and he's at fault when they don't? Federici clearly isn't in the managers plans. Davies has played 1 game All season and dropped an absolute clanger. Would you honestly put him in goal for the final 10 games? Yes. And I mean that sincerely. I want him to succeed I really do but right now he’s got a major cock up in him every game. I think we at least need to give the other 2 a proper chance which doesn’t mean 1 game and drop them when they’ve done nothing wrong.
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Post by blackpoolred on Feb 29, 2020 17:50:44 GMT
His penalty record is pretty pathetic. His one against one is fecking awful too which is epitomised by his penalty stats. That said he made an important save to keep us in the game on Tuesday and we really can't blame him for not saving a penalty - although today would have been a timely fecking time to finally save one.
I do think we have employed another yes man in MON. Clearly been told he must persist and keep playing him in the hope he hits some form and we can make some money out of him.
Just another manager who is doing what he is told by the backroom staff and happy to be getting his big chance in the cheap and uninspiring backwaters of Stoke-on-Trent.
That said he has done a good job to have us in with a chance of survival and should be given the keys to the town if he manages to keep this mediocre bunch of gutless wonders in the division
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Feb 29, 2020 17:52:57 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 29, 2020 17:52:57 GMT
Wow. Open your eyes and take the blinkers off. The two fumbles this week show he’s not got a clue. He’s absolutely shot to shit as they are stuff I’d genuinely expect me to hold. Why are you so defensive of him? We’re into double digits with the points he alone has dropped this season. He’s a liability and should never play for us again. Why he’s still here now is anyone’s guess. And no I didn’t expect anyone to sign him, a loan to a foreign league or another Champo club should have happened though. He’s the best goalkeeper at the club and that’s why the manager picks him week in week out He is but right now he’s not playing well and needs dropping.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 29, 2020 17:53:23 GMT
He has been way to long at the club now. We need to get rid at the first opportunity. He's a 6 foot 5 pussy. That cross he dropped today was because he was just bullied out of it by the Luton player. He should be dominating those balls into the box but he genuinely looks scared. It wasn't. It was because he didn't have the confidence to take the ball above his head so tried to take it into his chest. Absolutely nothing to do with being bullied and everything to do with playing poorly, out of form and lacking in confidence. He's playing under huge pressure and is scared of making a mistake which perversely leads to him making mistakes.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:53:38 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 29, 2020 17:53:38 GMT
He’s not. Federici is. And yes he’s shite too but he’s less shite than Butland. Easily. The manager plays for him for God and only knows why. It’s odd. Thankfully you’re fuck all to do with picking the team Ah yeah unlike the bloke who dropped MOM and the best centre half at the club for the bloke who gave away the penalty. Marvellous stuff. Butland is shot. Get over whatever it is you have with him because it’s that’s sort of loyalty that will see us relegated.
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