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Post by nott1 on Feb 12, 2021 17:23:20 GMT
I'd rather forget Afobe please bin!
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 12, 2021 18:24:51 GMT
I'd rather forget Afobe please bin! He was another £12M dowm the drain, that's the fact! Shit player, end of!  |
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Post by BuzzB on Feb 13, 2021 14:10:12 GMT
How does Anthony Taylor get to ref Liverpool so many times?
Ha ha Vardy just done the dippers.
ooops wrong thread
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 19, 2021 21:09:02 GMT
Definitely contracted until the summer of '23 - straight from the horse's mouth here....
How smart we were to tie him to the 5-year deal! Shrewd.
(big thanks to Kevin Phillips for this one)
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 19, 2021 21:39:55 GMT
Definitely contracted until the summer of '23 - straight from the horse's mouth here.... How smart we were to tie him to the 5-year deal! Shrewd. (big thanks to Kevin Phillips for this one) No one Forced the chief executive to give vim a fiver year deal that was a judgement and as in so many more fundamentally blamed and now passed off on the manager at the time |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 19, 2021 21:42:33 GMT
Definitely contracted until the summer of '23 - straight from the horse's mouth here.... How smart we were to tie him to the 5-year deal! Shrewd. (big thanks to Kevin Phillips for this one) No one Forced the chief executive to give vim a fiver year deal that was a judgement and as in so many more fundamentally blamed and now passed off on the manager at the time There is a lot of blame on the people who actually identified him and made him a top transfer priority though, yes? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 21:43:43 GMT
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Post by questionable on Feb 19, 2021 21:47:36 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 19, 2021 21:48:38 GMT
Realistically, don't suppose you're going to give a 12.5m signing ( ouch, that still hurts to see written down) less than a 4 yr deal. The problem is the identification of the player in the first place. Looks like we could have had Dwight Gayle wrapped up before Kev and Gaz showed us the error of that and IDd Benny as the promotion man
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 22:17:08 GMT
To be fair Bamford did manage 1 goal in a Prem season. Easy to be smart re him now. Did anyone see that coming? |
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Post by lordb on Feb 19, 2021 22:20:03 GMT
Can't blame Rowett or Phillips for that one |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 22:54:23 GMT
Bamford, Afobe, Gayle etc.
Not convinced it would have mattered, think we might have broken every single one of them personally.
The club was toxic then, only under MON is that even beginning to change.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 19, 2021 22:57:46 GMT
Definitely contracted until the summer of '23 - straight from the horse's mouth here.... How smart we were to tie him to the 5-year deal! Shrewd. (big thanks to Kevin Phillips for this one) No one Forced the chief executive to give vim a fiver year deal that was a judgement and as in so many more fundamentally blamed and now passed off on the manager at the time Is it unusual to tie down a £12 million investment to a five year contract? No doubt he’s been poor for a variety of reasons, but there was almost universal praise for the signing at the time. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 19, 2021 23:10:48 GMT
Bamford, Afobe, Gayle etc. Not convinced it would have mattered, think we might have broken every single one of them personally. The club was toxic then, only under MON is that even beginning to change. It would’ve mattered, Afobe wasn’t cut out to play the system Rowett was wedded to. He didn’t do his homework. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 20, 2021 0:40:14 GMT
He's going to be a big player for us next year.
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 20, 2021 0:47:35 GMT
He's going to be a big player for us next year. Watching that video at the end, it sounds to me like he doesn’t have the slightest interest in ever playing for us again. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 20, 2021 1:02:39 GMT
He's going to be a big player for us next year. Watching that video at the end, it sounds to me like he doesn’t have the slightest interest in ever playing for us again. He's a bit of a wanker isn't he. I think MON will try and get him on side when he returns, just a gut feeling but we'll see. |
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 20, 2021 1:05:36 GMT
Watching that video at the end, it sounds to me like he doesn’t have the slightest interest in ever playing for us again. He's a bit of a wanker isn't he. I think MON will try and get him on side when he returns, just a gut feeling but we'll see. He seems to think he’s heading for the Premier League? |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 20, 2021 1:09:43 GMT
He's a bit of a wanker isn't he. I think MON will try and get him on side when he returns, just a gut feeling but we'll see. He seems to think he’s heading for the Premier League? There's no way he'll get a move to a Premier league club, the only way he'll do that is by getting there with a promoted club, like he thought he would when he joined us. Not a chance. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 2:57:27 GMT
He seems to think he’s heading for the Premier League? There's no way he'll get a move to a Premier league club, the only way he'll do that is by getting there with a promoted club, like he thought he would when he joined us. Not a chance. Yep for sure. Not a Prem player by any stretch |
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Post by callas12 on Feb 20, 2021 3:19:19 GMT
There's no way he'll get a move to a Premier league club, the only way he'll do that is by getting there with a promoted club, like he thought he would when he joined us. Not a chance. Yep for sure. Not a Prem player by any stretch If Benik's agent can negotiate him a move to a Premier League club then bring it on, the sooner the better & try to recoup some of that ludicrous fee we splashed out on him in the process! |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 20, 2021 8:07:02 GMT
Watching that video at the end, it sounds to me like he doesn’t have the slightest interest in ever playing for us again. He's a bit of a wanker isn't he. I think MON will try and get him on side when he returns, just a gut feeling but we'll see. He tried that at the start of this season to be fair and got exasperated with him pretty quickly. |
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Post by lordb on Feb 20, 2021 8:11:28 GMT
Watching that video at the end, it sounds to me like he doesn’t have the slightest interest in ever playing for us again. He's a bit of a wanker isn't he. I think MON will try and get him on side when he returns, just a gut feeling but we'll see. Mon binned him off as soon as he could have had a look at him pre season What may you think MON will change his mind? Can't see it. |
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Post by Championship Potter on Feb 20, 2021 8:20:28 GMT
It’s easy to criticise with hindsight. At the time, we were signing a player with an outstanding goals per minute ratio at this level and supposedly in his prime years. I’m not convinced a 5ft 9 poacher like Dwight Gayle is much better suited to Gary Rowett’s football either. I’d cut them plenty more slack on it than McClean, Vokes and Gregory where we’ve signed players on big wages and with no resale value well into their 30s.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 8:33:58 GMT
It’s easy to criticise with hindsight. At the time, we were signing a player with an outstanding goals per minute ratio at this level and supposedly in his prime years. I’m not convinced a 5ft 9 poacher like Dwight Gayle is much better suited to Gary Rowett’s football either. I’d cut them plenty more slack on it than McClean, Vokes and Gregory where we’ve signed players on big wages and with no resale value well into their 30s. Supporters can only ever really deal in hindsight though, and as many are often told on here, "you don't have the qualifications to sit behind your screen and criticise, so leave it to the professionals".
Rowett, and his staff as professionals are and were paid (a lot of money no doubt) to deal in foresight and are absolutely fair game to be criticised by supporters for mistakes, even if it is in hindsight on our behalf. Rowett, and his idiot sidekick in Kevin Phillips, should have known that Benik Afobe wouldn't have fitted into a 4-5-1 / 4-3-3 that he wanted to play from day one and neither would Gayle either.
There is absolutely no slack to be cut with respect to Rowett on either him as a manager OR the buffoons in the boardroom that thought it was a good idea to appoint him, hand him 50M+ and to task him with doing something he has never done in his career and frankly never will, and that is to get promotion as a manager from any division he has managed in.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 20, 2021 8:51:55 GMT
It’s easy to criticise with hindsight. At the time, we were signing a player with an outstanding goals per minute ratio at this level and supposedly in his prime years. I’m not convinced a 5ft 9 poacher like Dwight Gayle is much better suited to Gary Rowett’s football either. I’d cut them plenty more slack on it than McClean, Vokes and Gregory where we’ve signed players on big wages and with no resale value well into their 30s. If you’re a well paid football manager with a set way of playing, it shouldn’t take ‘hindsight’ to either sign a top target who suits that style or find a different system that does suit him, should it? He should’ve done his homework, it’s literally his job. |
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Post by Northy on Feb 20, 2021 9:11:54 GMT
So even though Wolves were in the PL and we'd just been relegated, we paid him more money and put him on a long contract with it, the board must have been very confident we would bounce straight back.
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Post by Championship Potter on Feb 20, 2021 9:16:15 GMT
I think there’s levels of idiocy. McClean/Vokes/Gregory/Wimmer are the kind of signings where from a review of their Wikipedia pages it was pretty clear we were being very stupid and paying money no one else would. I don’t think anyone could have predicted how disappointing Afobe would be and there weren’t many people crying when we signed him.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 20, 2021 9:19:42 GMT
I think there’s levels of idiocy. McClean/Vokes/Gregory/Wimmer are the kind of signings where from a review of their Wikipedia pages it was pretty clear we were being very stupid and paying money no one else would. I don’t think anyone could have predicted how disappointing Afobe would be and there weren’t many people crying when we signed him. We didn’t know Rowett was wedded to 4-3-3 or just how ill suited to that Afobe was at the time though. The point is that Rowett and Phillips should’ve done. |
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Feb 20, 2021 9:30:11 GMT
To be fair Bamford did manage 1 goal in a Prem season. Easy to be smart re him now. Did anyone see that coming? Exactly. Bielsa prob only one, and Bamford himself. 99% of pundits were saying that Leeds would need a new striker. |
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