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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 4, 2021 14:55:00 GMT
That he wasn't injured, Hughes just didn't rate him and wanted to coach the flamboyancy out of him. 3 days later after he was meant to have been injured, he played for the u23s despite the insistence he was out for weeks. The Cruikshank basically said that Hughes wanted to train shape and what not into him. Which is a farce because that skill was Ramadan and actually worked. Take that away and he became a body. It's a bit like with Verlinden now, I just wish people would say MON doesn't rate him rather than defend the manager at all costs. Because I disagree with him but it makes more sense the shit being spouted and I would say is the truth. What a load of shite  He was a showpony who could pull it off in Egypt but on arrival here it was painfully obvious he needing coaching in the basics of shape and off the ball movement/duties. If Hughes was the problem why is he currently plyinbg his trade at Pyramids FC and not one of the European giants? He was show pony yeah. That was his game, embrace it and let him take on players. Hughes didn't want that. He didn't need that coaching out of him. It totally ruined him, he became a blocker. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 4, 2021 14:59:04 GMT
Derby need a striker don't they?
If they are daft enough to want Ince maybe we could convince them to do a "buy one get one free" deal and take Afobe as well.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 4, 2021 15:00:38 GMT
What a load of shite He was a showpony who could pull it off in Egypt but on arrival here it was painfully obvious he needing coaching in the basics of shape and off the ball movement/duties. If Hughes was the problem why is he currently plyinbg his trade at Pyramids FC and not one of the European giants? He was show pony yeah. That was his game, embrace it and let him take on players. Hughes didn't want that. He didn't need that coaching out of him. It totally ruined him, he became a blocker. What was more responsible for ruining him was the fact that the useful fucker couldn't kick a football properly. I was embarrassed for him. The fact that we managed to recoup our outlay on the him is arguably one of the few things the "transfer team" managed to do well with! He was wank...at absolutely everything. |
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Post by StokieSideAss on Jan 4, 2021 16:43:29 GMT
Who has FM? Afobe? I’ve just looked at his profile and he’s got a story on about yesterdays win, where he came off the bench. He's started 60% of their games and is current joint top scorer (with a lowly 3) so I’m not sure they will look to give him back quite so soon, unless they’ve got a replacement lined up |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 4, 2021 16:55:28 GMT
Who has FM? Afobe? I’ve just looked at his profile and he’s got a story on about yesterdays win, where he came off the bench. He's started 60% of their games and is current joint top scorer (with a lowly 3) so I’m not sure they will look to give him back quite so soon, unless they’ve got a replacement lined up Think the story says he's changed his profile picture from one in a Trabzonspor shirt and changed his description from 'football player for Trabzonspor to football player' Dunno if it's significant - but a few journos seem to be suggesting he's likely to be off? www.aspor.com.tr/webtv/trabzonspor/trabzonsporda-sok-ayrilik-afobe-gidiyor-mu-canli-yayinda-duyurdu (including this guy) (although the Turkish media do tend to make it up as they go!) |
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 4, 2021 17:10:03 GMT
Don't these agreements have to be between both parties. They can't just send him back?.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 5, 2021 8:57:48 GMT
His agent seems to have told local media he isn't leaving - but there still seems to be a lot of talk about it www.61saat.com/futbol/benik-afobe-trabzonspor-dan-ayriliyor-mu-menajeri-61saat-e-h827937.htmlSpeaking about Afobe, who is at the top of the list to leave the team in Bordeaux Blue, Sanmi Odelusi stated that Afobe's departure is not on the agenda and said “Afobe is not leaving the club. He is happy in Trabzonspor. It doesn't mean anything that he changed his biography and photo. Afobe is satisfied with Trabzonspor and wants to continue" Regarding his poor performance, he said, “Sorry, the best strikers in the world are going through tough times. Fans should believe and encourage him in times of trouble. " Using his expressions, he underlined that the fans should support the player |
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 5, 2021 9:00:57 GMT
Well he ain't coming back to us!!
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 5, 2021 9:22:41 GMT
www.fotomac.com.tr/video-haber/videoizle/yunus-emre-sel-afobe-ile-yollar-ayrilacakYunus Emre Sel, correspondent of Fotomaç Newspaper Trabzonspor, evaluated the latest developments in the burgundy-blue club in the Spor Gün Sel said that Afobe was conveyed by the management that she was not considered in the second half. Yunus Emre Sel announced that Afebe's contract would be terminated after negotiations with Stoke City.. So she is coming back! Benika Fobe? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 5, 2021 9:53:37 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 9, 2021 13:18:32 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 9, 2021 13:31:00 GMT
Although maybe he really does mean he's contracted until 2023! We did need to safeguard our £12m man after all  |
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 9, 2021 13:41:28 GMT
Well at least he's still better than Vokes, Gregory and Brown.😎
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Post by lordb on Feb 9, 2021 14:37:59 GMT
Well at least he's still better than Vokes, Gregory and Brown.😎 is he? not much in it |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 9, 2021 14:44:48 GMT
Well at least he's still better than Vokes, Gregory and Brown.😎 He isn't. |
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 9, 2021 14:47:53 GMT
For such a big bloke I've never seen a striker fail to impose himself on the game and opposition as badly as he does.
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 9, 2021 14:52:04 GMT
Well at least he's still better than Vokes, Gregory and Brown.😎 is he? not much in it no not much,but maybe a rizla in it.😎 |
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 9, 2021 14:53:06 GMT
Well at least he's still better than Vokes, Gregory and Brown.😎 He isn't. Certainly back him in a one v one with a keeper than the others though.🍺 |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 9, 2021 15:01:22 GMT
Certainly back him in a one v one with a keeper than the others though.🍺 He wouldn't get into that position in the first place. He wouldn't chase it, he certainly wouldn't win it in the air, he likely wouldn't control it. More to being a striker than one-on-ones. |
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 9, 2021 15:12:29 GMT
Certainly back him in a one v one with a keeper than the others though.🍺 He wouldn't get into that position in the first place. He wouldn't chase it, he certainly wouldn't win it in the air, he likely wouldn't control it. More to being a striker than one-on-ones. Like Vokes and Gregory, Afobe is incapable of being a striker in a team like ours without width. He made a cracking start to his Bristol City loan before that cruel ACL injury, but he had a strike partner in that team. At Wolves, he again played in a team with width and a creative DM that made lots of chances for him. |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 9, 2021 15:12:55 GMT
There’s a good argument to make that we’d be better off with Benik as an option to Fletch and as an option out wide a la Ty, than Vokes or Brown, and that’s not revisionism at work either.
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 9, 2021 16:05:46 GMT
Certainly back him in a one v one with a keeper than the others though.🍺 He wouldn't get into that position in the first place. He wouldn't chase it, he certainly wouldn't win it in the air, he likely wouldn't control it. More to being a striker than one-on-ones. There is but over a season id back Afobe to score more goals than any of the other 3 mentioned. |
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Post by onionman on Feb 9, 2021 16:31:52 GMT
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Afobe was our top goal scorer next season. Our manager has been able to rescue lost causes like Lyndsay, Smith, and Vokes so there is no reason why he can’t get a tune out of Benik. This comment has not aged well. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 9, 2021 16:48:17 GMT
He wouldn't get into that position in the first place. He wouldn't chase it, he certainly wouldn't win it in the air, he likely wouldn't control it. More to being a striker than one-on-ones. There is but over a season id back Afobe to score more goals than any of the other 3 mentioned. I wouldn't back him to get more than Gregory and I think his all round game would be actively worse than any of them. I think people have forgotten just how bad he was. We can't carry passengers. The age of do-nothing poachers who only score tap-ins is long gone, especially when we play 4-3-3. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 9, 2021 16:49:06 GMT
There’s a good argument to make that we’d be better off with Benik as an option to Fletch and as an option out wide a la Ty, than Vokes or Brown, and that’s not revisionism at work either. A 'good' argument? MON plays 4-3-3. Like Rowett. Afobe isn't a lone striker in any way, shape or form. |
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Post by lordb on Feb 9, 2021 16:56:05 GMT
Certainly back him in a one v one with a keeper than the others though.🍺 still can't get my head round that, hardest goal to score in my view, he nails them normally appalling in many aspects, cant stand watching him |
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Post by Fred Merger on Feb 9, 2021 17:37:37 GMT
Certainly back him in a one v one with a keeper than the others though.🍺 still can't get my head round that, hardest goal to score in my view, he nails them normally appalling in many aspects, cant stand watching him He does look much better when the ball is played in front of him to run into,but as has been said by others his aerial ability is zero. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Feb 9, 2021 17:40:51 GMT
100% would much rather have Benik back than Vokes and Brown.
By far as well.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 9, 2021 17:50:53 GMT
100% would much rather have Benik back than Vokes and Brown. By far as well. I'd prefer anyone on top instead of Brown! I'd even play MON up front instead of him!  |
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Post by lordb on Feb 9, 2021 17:57:28 GMT
still can't get my head round that, hardest goal to score in my view, he nails them normally appalling in many aspects, cant stand watching him He does look much better when the ball is played in front of him to run into,but as has been said by others his aerial ability is zero. That's partly due to the fact he stands absolutely still in the penalty area.Easiest player to mark ever. Vokes is better, yes Vokes, in the area than Afobe - that's how bad Afobe is. As posted above people have forgotten how shit he is. Outside the area he's also shit, doesn't read the game at all, weak as piss. A bit better out wide because he has space to run forward into. Obviously both he and Vokes are utterly redundant Brown is at least young and cheap. Barnsley fans all said no good as a striker but good out wide Can't say as we've seen that but prepared to accept he might be any good wide. |
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